From: Eugene TS Wong (eugenetswong@yahoo.com)
Date: Fri Dec 01 2000 - 20:44:08 CET
Oh, PLEASE!! Michele's ***entire*** quote is out of context. Did he
mention the positives??? Well? WELL?? Did he mention that I edited the FAQ
a couple of times? Did he? DID HE??
Not only did I do something about the FAQ, I also suggested ways to make
it easier for him. ***BUT*** he wouldn't even entertain the thought,
according to the email I got from him. After 1 or 2 emails, I wrote what
you see. I wrote it at the end of the email too. It looks bad in the
correct context, but it even looks worse when it is cut and pasted.
--- Dumas Patrice <dumas@centre-cired.fr> wrote:
> Someone a écrit :
>
> > I can almost guarantee that you
> > probably won't be able to make good progress with muLinux.
>
> This person never saw mulinux nor the pace of change.
Prove it! PROVE IT!!! ***PROVE*** that I never tried to install it on my
486 in my bedroom. Well? WELL??!? I'm waiting.
> Since I begun to use
> it, 6 month ago, it has really improved and be transformed. And the
> progress
> made isn't reflected by the FAQ nor the documentation !
I'm glad to hear that, but the quality of the software isn't the issue
here. The issue is the FAQ, which is difficult to search through.
<snip>
> > Judging by your
> > documentation and difficult-to-use faq, I think that not many people
> will
> > want to use muLinux.
>
> This is quite a purely gratuituous criticism. What are the facts ?
The fact of the matter is that even though I tried to help, he didn't
accept my work or suggestions on how to make it easier for everybody.
> One fact
> is that more and more people use mulinux. Another fact is that having
> everybody on earth use mulinux could be a good thing maybe but is not
> mandatory.
I'll agree with that--not everybody has to use it, but it would be neat if
everybody did.
> You are, as always, the only person knowing what is good for mulinux !
No. Do you ever notice that I hardly send mail to the list? The reason for
it is because I'm one of the many people who *don't* know what is best for
muLinux. Don't you think? Aren't you being a bit presumptous? You didn't
even hear my opinions or my side of the argument. You didn't even hear
what Michele said to me off-list.
> And as far as I have understood, it has been a pedagogical and for
> fun system.
I'll agree with you on that one, *now*. Unfortunately, I tend to get
excited when I see a good thing and forget that sometimes people just do
things for fun. For example, Michele created muLinux for fun, as he told
me off-list. *But* I'm more than aware of that, *after* corresponding with
him off-list.
> Maybe the problem is that some people doesn't describe mulinux and try
> to use it as it ?
I don't understand what you're saying. If you feel it's significant, then
I'd strongly encourage you to rephrase it.
<snip>
> > ... Because English
> > appears to not be your first language, it is important that you let
> > somebody take care of the English documentation ....
>
> It isn't the first criticism against fracturation...
> In my opinion, but it is my own opinion, as english is imposed as
> international langage for computer engineering, people should be
> tolerant to
> fracturation, or propose themselve a good traduction !
I don't know what a traduction is, but the point about English not being
his first language was my way of saying, "If you don't want to take care
of the FAQ, then fine. Just let somebody else do it.". *He* said himself
that if the FAQ were in Italian, then he would be able to write a good
quality one because he is a proffessional writer. I believe him, but
somehow I get the impression that he is still trying to maintain complete
control of the FAQ sources. That makes it difficult contribute--not
impossible, but difficult.
--- Stephen Isard <S.IsardDeleteThis@ed.ac.uk> wrote:
> Michele,
>
> > I can almost guarantee that you
> > probably won't be able to make good progress with muLinux. Judging by
> your
> > documentation and difficult-to-use faq, I think that not many people
> will
> > want to use muLinux.
>
> This must surely be a message from Bill Gates himself, trying to put the
> competition out of business by underhand methods.
Yeah, yeah. Bill Gates is really afraid of a hobby. Ooo...watch. muLinux
is crushing Microsoft. Oh no!
> Of course even Bill Gates is entitled to have an opinion, but in my
> view, and I think that of the other subscribers to this list, he is
> displaying both arrogance and ignorance. You have already made good
> progress with muLinux. It is wonderful, and keeps getting even better.
>
> > ... Because English
> > appears to not be your first language, it is important that you let
> > somebody take care of the English documentation ....
>
> I like the fractured English, it gives mu a personality of its own. I
> have not found it unclear, except in a very few cases, and those have
> been corrected through correspondence on the list.
>
> > So, muLinux received more appreciation when was without FAQ!
>
> It is probably just a coincidence that this person discovered the web
> site soon after the faq appeared. What would he have said if there had
> been no faq at all? Nothing more positive, I am sure.
"Probably", is the correct word. However, it is untrue. In other words I
discovered the site by reading documentation from www.linuxdoc.org. Yes,
that's right, I wanted to learn, and I read about it. It pointed me to
this site. How would **you** know **when** I dicovered the site?? Well, I
wouldn't have said anything, because I recall that there was no FAQ when I
first discovered muLinux. Being a bit presumptous, aren't you??
Why must you all be so arrogant that you would assume the worst in a person?
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