From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 1 07:42:30 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:42:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA28385 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA03601; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:42:24 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA11124; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:40:12 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA60672 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:38:42 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id HAA12078 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:38:41 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA06735; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:36:41 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:36:41 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: MIME and munpack In-Reply-To: <199807010707.AAA14363@lists2.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Ken Stevens X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I couldn't find mmencode or mmdecode on my Unix system (Sun Solaris 2.6), but I downloaded mpack and munpack (*not* part of Solaris). I've appended some info about those two programs. Regarding line wrapping. I sometimes use a program called Jpico instead of Pico. Jpico is a version of JOE (Joe's Own Editor) with Pico-like key bindings. It doesn't wrap long lines and it can do search and replace. You can read more here: http://fileserver.hrz.uni-marburg.de/tools/joe-2.8/html/INFO Jpico also seems to use a little less RAM than does Pico, at least on my system. So it's a great alternative editor for a die-hard Pico user. Mike Michael B. Miller, M.S., Ph.D., M.P.E. Department of Psychology 210 McAlester Hall University of Missouri--Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 Phone: (573) 882-5671 Fax: (573) 882-7710 e-mail: mbmiller@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu web: http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- mpack/munpack version 1.5 for unix Mpack and munpack are utilities for encoding and decoding (respectively) binary files in MIME (Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions) format mail messages. For compatibility with older forms of transferring binary files, the munpack program can also decode messages in split-uuencoded format. The Macintosh version can also decode messages in split-BinHex format. Versions are included for unix, pc, os2, mac, amiga and archimedes systems. The canonical FTP site for this software is ftp.andrew.cmu.edu:pub/mpack/ This MIME implementation is intended to be as simple and portable as possible. For a slightly more sophisticated MIME implementation, see the program MetaMail, available via anonymous FTP to thumper.bellcore.com, in directory pub/nsb Decoding MIME messages: First, you have to compile the munpack program. See the instructions in the section "Compilation" below. If, after reading the instructions, you are still unsure as to how to compile munpack, please try to find someone locally to help you. To decode a MIME message, first save it to a text file. If possible, save it with all headers included. Munpack can decode some MIME files when the headers are missing or incomplete, other files it cannot decode without having the information in the headers. In general, messages which have a statement at the beginning that they are in MIME format can be decoded without the headers. Messages which have been split into multiple parts generally require all headers in order to be reassembled and decoded. Some LAN-based mail systems and some mail providers (including America Online, as of the writing of this document) place the mail headers at the bottom of the message, instead of at the top of the message. If you are having problems decoding a MIME message on such a system, you need to convert the mail back into the standard format by removing the system's nonstandard headers and moving the standard Internet headers to the top of the message (separated from the message body with a blank line). There must be exactly one message per file. Munpack cannot deal with multiple messages in a single file, to decode things correctly it must know when one message ends and the next one begins. To decode a message, run the command: munpack file where "file" is the name of the file containing the message. More than one filename may be specified, munpack will try to decode the message in each file. For more information on ways to run munpack, see the section "Using munpack" below. Reporting bugs: Bugs and comments should be reported to mpack-bugs@andrew.cmu.edu. When reporting bugs or other problems, please include the following information: * The version number of Mpack * The platform (Unix, PC, OS/2, Mac, Amiga, Archimedes) * The EXACT output of any unsuccessful attempts. * If having a problem decoding, the first couple of lines of the input file. Compilation: The mpack distribution should compile with no changes on most unix systems. There are a few exceptions--if compiling on SunOS, SVR4, SCO Unix, or an ancient BSD without the strchr() function, edit the Makefile and uncomment the relevant lines. Compile with the command: make If you want to install the programs and man pages in a common place, use the command: make install DESTDIR=/installation/path where "/installation/path" is the path of the tree you want to install the files into. The default value of DESTDIR is "/usr/local", which installs the programs in the directory "/usr/local/bin" and the man pages in "/usr/local/man/man1". Using mpack: Mpack is used to encode a file into one or more MIME format messages. The program is invoked with: mpack [options] -o outputfile file or mpack [options] file address... or mpack [options] -n newsgroups file Where "[options]" is one or more optional switches described below. "-o outputfile" is also described below. "file" is the name of the file to encode, "address..." is one or more e-mail address to mail the resulting messages to and "newsgroups" is a comma-separated list of newsgroups to post the resulting messages to. The possible options are: -s subject Set the Subject header field to Subject. By default, mpack will prompt for the contents of the subject header. -d descriptionfile Include the contents of the file descriptionfile in an introductory section at the beginning of the first generated message. -m maxsize Split the message (if necessary) into partial messages, each not exceeding maxsize characters. The default limit is the value of the SPLITSIZE environment variable, or no limit if the environment variable does not exist. Specifying a maxsize of 0 means there is no limit to the size of the generated message. -c content-type Label the included file as being of MIME type content-type, which must be a subtype of application, audio, image, or video. If this switch is not given, mpack examines the file to determine its type. -o outputfile Write the generated message to the file outputfile. If the message has to be split, the partial messages will instead be written to the files outputfile.01, outputfile.02, etc. The environment variables which control mpack's behavior are: SPLITSIZE Default value of the -m switch. Default "0". TMPDIR Directory to store temporary files. Default "/tmp". Using munpack: Munpack is used to decode one or more messages in MIME or split-uuencoded format and extract the embedded files. The program is invoked with: munpack [options] filename... which reads the messages in the files "filename...". Munpack may also be invoked with just: munpack [options] which reads a message from the standard input. If the message suggests a file name to use for the imbedded part, that name is cleaned of potential problem characters and used for the output file. If the suggested filename includes subdirectories, they will be created as necessary. If the message does not suggest a file name, the names "part1", "part2", etc are used in sequence. If the imbedded part was preceded with textual information, that information is also written to a file. The file is named the same as the imbedded part, with any filename extension replaced with ".desc" The possible options are: -f Forces the overwriting of existing files. If a message suggests a file name of an existing file, the file will be overwritten. Without this flag, munpack appends ".1", ".2", etc to find a nonexistent file. -t Also unpack the text parts of multipart messages to files. By default, text parts that do not have a filename parameter do not get unpacked. -q Be quiet--suppress messages about saving partial messages. -C directory Change the current directory to "directory" before reading any files. This is useful when invoking munpack from a mail or news reader. The environment variables which control munpack's behavior are: TMPDIR Root of directory to store partial messages awaiting reassembly. Default is "/usr/tmp". Partial messages are stored in subdirectories of $TMPDIR/m-prts-$USER/ Acknowledgements: Written by John G. Myers, jgm+@cmu.edu The mac version was written by Christopher J. Newman, chrisn+@cmu.edu The amiga port was done by Mike W. Meyer, mwm@contessa.phone.net and Peter Simons, simons@peti.GUN.de The os2 port was done by Jochen Friedrich, jochen@audio.pfalz.de The archimedes port was done by Olly Betts, olly@mantis.co.uk Send all bug reports to mpack-bugs@andrew.cmu.edu Thanks to Nathaniel Borenstein for testing early versions of mpack and for making many helpful suggestions. Legalese: (C) Copyright 1993,1994 by Carnegie Mellon University All Rights Reserved. Permission to use, copy, modify, distribute, and sell this software and its documentation for any purpose is hereby granted without fee, provided that the above copyright notice appear in all copies and that both that copyright notice and this permission notice appear in supporting documentation, and that the name of Carnegie Mellon University not be used in advertising or publicity pertaining to distribution of the software without specific, written prior permission. Carnegie Mellon University makes no representations about the suitability of this software for any purpose. It is provided "as is" without express or implied warranty. CARNEGIE MELLON UNIVERSITY DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES WITH REGARD TO THIS SOFTWARE, INCLUDING ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS, IN NO EVENT SHALL CARNEGIE MELLON UNIVERSITY BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPECIAL, INDIRECT OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE. Portions of this software are derived from code written by Bell Communications Research, Inc. (Bellcore) and by RSA Data Security, Inc. and bear similar copyrights and disclaimers of warranty. ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 1 12:57:43 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA11216 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA04257; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:57:37 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA06060; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:57:07 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA36142 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:56:13 -0700 Received: from news.mtu.edu (root@news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA18053 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:56:12 -0700 Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14064 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:56:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apollo.fa.mtu.edu (apollo.fa.mtu.edu [141.219.148.200]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22926 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:56:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mabeito@localhost) by apollo.fa.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/mturelay-1.2) with SMTP id PAA21168 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:45:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:45:40 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Beito To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Binary In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: apollo.fa.mtu.edu: mabeito owned process doing -bs X-Sender: mabeito@apollo.fa.mtu.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Ken Stevens wrote: > Do you know of any tool that can deal with base-64 format? The uudecode that comes with slrn works okay with it as far as I can tell. It also has the added benefit of being able to decode multiple attachments in the same file. ftp://space.mit.edu/pub/davis/slrn -- ################################################################################ # Matt Beito mabeito@mtu.edu http://www.csl.mtu.edu/~mabeito # # "Excursions" Fri 10p-1a WMTU 91.9fm http://wmtu.mtu.edu/live.ram # ################################################################################ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 1 13:52:34 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:52:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA10187 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA05784; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:52:27 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA03684; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:51:56 -0700 Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (root@jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA25434 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:51:04 -0700 Received: from saul6.u.washington.edu (absweger@saul6.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.1]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA48220; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:50:57 -0700 Received: from localhost (absweger@localhost) by saul6.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA14682; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:50:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:50:56 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Andrew Sweger To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: loading messages into memory In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: "Robin S. Socha" , Dave Hirsch X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 30 Jun 1998, Robin S. Socha wrote: > * Dave Hirsch writes: > > > Dear Pine-info, I have several folders with +1000 messages in them. > > When I open the folder, it takes several minutes and about 60megs of > > memory to load. Is there anyway for pine to ONLY load the index screen > > (message header info) into memory? Once the message is selected for > > opening, only that message would be read into memory. > > Not that I know of. I'm not sure (because it's been a while), but I think using *.mtx mailbox format (Tenex format?) would permit this (for local files). -- / Andrew B. 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From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 1 17:19:59 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:19:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA18627 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:19:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA11287; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:19:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA04051; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:19:36 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA25588 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:18:06 -0700 Received: from fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (0@fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.8]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA04649 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:18:05 -0700 Received: from fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (6782@fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.7]) by fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA53460; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 18:18:03 -0600 Received: from localhost (brewhaha@localhost) by fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA84486; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 18:18:01 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 18:18:01 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Raja BrewHaHa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: loading messages into memory In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Dave Hirsch X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Dave Hirsch wrote: > > Dear Pine-info, > > I have several folders with +1000 messages in them. > When I open the folder, it takes several minutes and about 60megs of > memory to load. Is there anyway for pine to ONLY load the index screen > (message header info) into memory? Once the message is selected for > opening, only that message would be read into memory. > > PS Partitioning the folders into several smaller folders is not a feasible > option for the nature of my system. There is a way to make messages into a more efficient file system. You can begin the message file with offsets into the file for the beginning of each message for instance. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 1 21:16:21 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA13649 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA22089; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:16:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA19022; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:15:50 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA32086 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:15:12 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA18379 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:15:11 -0700 Received: from fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (0@fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.8]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA22068 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:15:09 -0700 Received: from fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (6782@fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.7]) by fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA57457 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 22:15:07 -0600 Received: from localhost (brewhaha@localhost) by fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA23100 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 22:15:06 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 22:15:05 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Raja Whizzdom To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Raja Whizzdom MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The most comon form of manipulation is wut yuu don't. ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 2 09:03:49 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA30522 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA02114; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:03:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA28575; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:02:29 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA81976 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:01:01 -0700 Received: from out5.ibm.net (out5.ibm.net [165.87.194.245]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA06358 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:01:00 -0700 Received: from alpha.computers.org (ssdipola@slip139-92-33-221.lju.si.ibm.net [139.92.33.221]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA29474 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:00:56 GMT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 18:02:17 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: Iztok Polanic Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Iztok Polanic To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: sent-mail & ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ssdipola@alpha.computers.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello !!! Somebody said that if you don't want pine to delete your sent-mail folder then you must put this in your .pinerc file: # Set by Pine; controls beginning-of-month sent-mail pruning. last-time-prune-questioned=110.1 But now pine won't move my saved-messages to new folder every month. Is there a fix, so that pine will move my saved-messages to a new folder every new month and still not delete my sent-mail folder??? TNX! Bye. xxxxxx ////// xx xx ( o o ) xx xx /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ xxxx | From: Iztok Polanic | xx xx | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | xx xx | WWW: http://kotzi.home.ml.org | xx xx \-----------------------------------------/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 2 12:12:32 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:12:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA01107 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA29175; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:12:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA09268; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:11:53 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA19648 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:10:27 -0700 Received: from mailjay.creighton.edu (mailjay.creighton.edu [147.134.2.126]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA08650 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:10:21 -0700 Received: from bluejay.creighton.edu by mailjay.creighton.edu with SMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA108316596; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:09:56 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:09:56 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: dayoung@creighton.edu To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: sent-mail & ... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Iztok Polanic X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Does anyone know how to check when someone last checked e-mail? IS this possible? IF so please please please tell me how. Thanks Danielle From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 2 13:04:39 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:04:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA02529 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:04:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA00441; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:04:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA22019; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:03:30 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA63222 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:02:30 -0700 Received: from fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (0@fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.8]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA07239 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:02:29 -0700 Received: from fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (6782@fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.7]) by fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA94710 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:02:28 -0600 Received: from localhost (brewhaha@localhost) by fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA86612 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:02:26 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:02:25 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Raja To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: sent-mail & ... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 2 Jul 1998 dayoung@creighton.edu wrote: > Does anyone know how to check when someone last checked e-mail? IS > this possible? IF so please please please tell me how. Thanks > I used a system that let you inquire when someone read the subject, read the message, and deleted the message (you could tell how big a twit they think you are :-). Pine docs deprecate doing that, saying it's not always practical and would increase required bandwidth, which are true. Of course, that doesn't mean the post office doesn't do it anyway with double-registered mail. In other words, maybe next millenium. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 2 21:26:08 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA09590 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:26:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA10354; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:26:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA10095; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:25:29 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA26626 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:24:44 -0700 Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de (norbert@apollonius.delta-ii.de [195.180.229.163]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA11795 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:24:42 -0700 Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19394; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 06:24:32 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 03 Jul 1998 06:24:32 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: sent-mail & ... In-Reply-To: dayoung@creighton.edu's message of "Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:09:56 -0500 (CDT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: norbert@lamia.delta-ii.de X-To: dayoung@creighton.edu X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-URL: http://www.delta-ii.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN dayoung writes: > Does anyone know how to check when someone last checked e-mail? > IS > this possible? IF so please please please tell me how. Thanks Well, depends on the system and the system security policy of your partner(s). UNIX provides a finger command which sometimes also displays information about (un)read mails. But I doubt that this option is given. It's a major security leak. L8er, norbert. -- Norbert Koch, DELTA Industrie Informatik GmbH, Fellbach, Germany. YOW: I decided to be JOHN TRAVOLTA instead!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 2 22:52:10 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA10352 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA11481; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:52:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA01422; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:51:43 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA63476 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:50:43 -0700 Received: from fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (0@fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.8]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA31904 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:50:42 -0700 Received: from fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (6782@fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.7]) by fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA54375 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 23:50:41 -0600 Received: from localhost (brewhaha@localhost) by fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA78000 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 23:50:36 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 23:50:34 -0600 (MDT) Reply-To: Raja Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Raja To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: sent-mail & ... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 3 Jul 1998, Norbert Koch wrote: > dayoung writes: > > > Does anyone know how to check when someone last checked e-mail? > > IS > > this possible? IF so please please please tell me how. Thanks > > Well, depends on the system and the system security policy of your > partner(s). UNIX provides a finger command which sometimes also > displays information about (un)read mails. But I doubt that this > option is given. It's a major security leak. I should've mentioned that I had that feature on a closed (nearly) mainframe. Over the internet, you'd need public-key crypto and key authenticity infrastructure that will probably take another two to five years to develop. As I said, not this millenium. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 3 08:52:02 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 08:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA19090 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 08:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA18710; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 08:51:55 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA04527; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 08:51:31 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA70390 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 08:50:09 -0700 Received: from lancaster.nexor.co.uk (lancaster.nexor.co.uk [128.243.9.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA04528 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 08:50:03 -0700 Received: from skyhawk.nexor.co.uk by lancaster.nexor.co.uk with SMTP (NEXOR MMTA 2.2); Fri, 3 Jul 1998 16:50:00 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 16:49:57 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: John Berthels Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: John Berthels To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Extended ISO-8859-1 and Pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-ID: Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; boundary="-559023410-341603450-899223930=:19854" X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN ---559023410-341603450-899223930=:19854 Content-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" Just to beat this to death, attached is a filter re-written in C which does a similar job to the previously posted perl version but: a) doesn't require perl start-up time per bodypart display b) recognises many more code page 850 codes c) requires compiling (duh): try "gcc 8859filt.c -o 8859filt" For those who aren't supremely disinterested in this, the problem this tries to solve is the presence of character codes in the 0x80 -> 0x9f range in bodyparts labelled as iso-8859-1. Such bodyparts seem to be generated by mailers including Netscape 4, which incorrectly insert these codes to represent characters from code page 850. This filter replaces some of these codes with 'lookalike' sequences from the legal iso-8859-1 range. The comment at the beginning of the program gives terse help on installing in PINE. [I guess the other workaround to this might be to use a font in codepage 850 (presumably one of the ones netscape uses?) and unset the PINE variable: send-control-characters-as-is] Have fun, jb -- John Berthels Email: j.berthels@nexor.co.uk X.400: /G=john/S=berthels/O=nexor/P=nexor/A=cwmail/C=gb/ ---559023410-341603450-899223930=:19854 Content-ID: Content-Description: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII"; NAME="8859filt.c" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 I2luY2x1ZGUgPHN0ZGlvLmg+DQoNCi8qDQogKiBQaW5lIGZpbHRlciB0byBt YXAgY29udHJvbCBjaGFyYWN0ZXIgc2VxdWVuY2VzIGFuZA0KICogY2hhcmFj dGVycyBjb3JyZXNwb25kaW5nIHRvIGNvZGUgcGFnZSA4NTAgdG8gaXNvLTg4 NTktMQ0KICoNCiAqIFVzZWZ1bCBzaW5jZSBzb21lIG1haWxlcnMgKE5ldHNj YXBlIDQ/IElFND8pIHByb2R1Y2UgY29kZQ0KICogcGFnZSA4NTAgYnV0IGxh YmVsIGl0IGFzIGlzby04ODU5LTENCiAqDQogKiB0aGFua3MgdG8gQXJ0aHVy IFNub2tlIDxzbm9rZUBlcXVha2UuZ2VvbC52dC5lZHU+IGZvcg0KICogaWRl YXMgKyBkZXRlcm1pbmF0aW9uDQogKg0KICogSE9XIFRPIFVTRToNCiAqIElu IHlvdXIgcGluZSBzZXR1cCwgYWRkIHRoZSBsaW5lOg0KICogX0NIQVJTRVQo SVNPLTg4NTktMSlfIC9wYXRoL3RvL3lvdXIvY29tcGlsZWQvODg1OWZpbHQN CiAqIHRvIHlvdXIgJ2Rpc3BsYXktZmlsdGVycycgc2V0dGluZw0KICoNCiAq Lw0KDQovKg0KICogVGFibGU6IHBvc2l0aW9uIFswXSBtYXBzIHRvIHBvc2l0 aW9uIDB4ODAgaW4gY29kZSBwYWdlIDg1MA0KICogcmVzdCBvZiB0YWJsZSBy dW5zIGNvbnRpbnVvdXNseSB0byAweDlmDQogKi8NCnN0YXRpYwljaGFyCSpt YXBfdGFibGVbXQk9CXsNCgkiIiwJCS8qIE1pc3NpbmcgKi8NCgkiIiwJCS8q IE1pc3NpbmcgKi8NCgkiLCIsCQkvKiBMb29rcyBsaWtlIGEgY29tbWEgKi8N CgkiZiIsCQkvKiBJdGFsaWMgZiAqLw0KCSJcIiIsCQkvKiAnbG93JyBxdW90 ZXMgKi8NCgkiLi4uIiwJCS8qIGVsbGlwc2lzICovDQoJIisiLAkJLyogTm8g Z29vZCBjaG9pY2UgKGZvb3Rub3RlIG1hcmtlcikgKi8NCgkifCIsCQkvKiBE aXR0byAqLw0KCSJeIiwJCS8qIExvb2tzIGxpa2UgYSBjYXJldCAqLw0KCSIl byIsCQkvKiBMb29rcyBsaWtlICUgYW5kIGEgc21hbGwgJ28nIChhICdwZXJt aWxsZScpICovDQoJIlMiLAkJLyogQ2FwaXRhbCBTIHdpdGggYW4gYWNjZW50 ICovDQoJIjwiLAkJLyogT3BlbiBhbmdsZSBicmFja2V0ICovDQoJIk9FIiwJ CS8qIENhcGl0YWwgT0UgZGlwdGhvbmcgKi8NCgkiIiwJCS8qIE1pc3Npbmcg Ki8NCgkiIiwJCS8qIE1pc3NpbmcgKi8NCgkiIiwJCS8qIE1pc3NpbmcgKi8N CgkiIiwJCS8qIE1pc3NpbmcgKi8NCgkiJyIsCQkvKiBPcGVuIHNpbmdsZSBx dW90ZSAqLw0KCSInIiwJCS8qIENsb3NlIHNpbmdsZSBxdW90ZSAqLw0KCSJc IiIsCQkvKiBPcGVuIGRvdWJsZSBxdW90ZSAqLw0KCSJcIiIsCQkvKiBDbG9z ZSBkb3VibGUgcXVvdGUgKi8NCgkiKiIsCQkvKiBCdWxsZXQgKi8NCgkiLSIs CQkvKiBEYXNoICovDQoJIi0iLAkJLyogTG9uZyBkYXNoICovDQoJIn4iLAkJ LyogVGlkbGUvYWNjZW50IGNoYXJhY3RlciAqLw0KCSIodG0pIiwJCS8qIFRy YWRlIG1hcmsgc3ltYm9sICovDQoJInMiLAkJLyogcyB3aXRoIGFuIGFjY2Vu dCAqLw0KCSI+IiwJCS8qIENsb3NlIGFuZ2xlIGJyYWNrZXQgKi8NCgkib2Ui LAkJLyogb2UgZGlwdGhvbmcgKi8NCgkiWSIsCQkvKiBDYXBpdGFsIFkgd2l0 aCB1bWxhdXQgKi8NCn07DQoNCmludCBtYWluKCBpbnQgYXJnYywgY2hhciAq KmFyZ3YgKQ0Kew0KCWludAljOw0KCWNoYXIJKnN0cjsNCg0KCXdoaWxlKCAo YyA9IGdldGNoYXIoKSkgIT0gRU9GICkJew0KCQlpZiggYyA9PSAnXicgKQl7 DQoJCQljID0gZ2V0Y2hhcigpOw0KCQkJaWYoIGMgIT0gRU9GICYmIGMgPj0g MHhjMCAmJiBjIDw9IDB4ZmYgKQl7DQoJCQkJLyoNCgkJCQkgKiBXZSBoYXZl IGEgY3RybCBjaGFyDQoJCQkJICovDQoJCQkJc3RyID0gbWFwX3RhYmxlW2Mg LSAweGMwXTsNCgkJCQlwcmludGYoICIlcyIsIHN0ciApOw0KCQkJfSBlbHNl CXsNCgkJCQlwdXRjaGFyKCAnXicgKTsNCgkJCQlwdXRjaGFyKCBjICk7DQoJ CQl9DQoJCX0gZWxzZSBpZiggYyA+PSAweDgwICYmIGMgPD0gMHg5ZiApCXsN CgkJCS8qDQoJCQkgKiBOb24tcHJpbnRhYmxlIGlzby04ODU5LTEsIHRyeSBj cDg1MA0KCQkJICovDQoJCQlzdHIgPSBtYXBfdGFibGVbYyAtIDB4ODBdOw0K CQkJcHJpbnRmKCAiJXMiLCBzdHIgKTsNCgkJfSBlbHNlCXsNCgkJCXB1dGNo YXIoIGMgKTsNCgkJfQ0KCX0NCg0KCXJldHVybiAwOw0KfQ0K ---559023410-341603450-899223930=:19854-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 4 10:10:59 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 10:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA03069 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 10:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA05881; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 10:10:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA12838; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 10:09:07 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA63136 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 10:06:56 -0700 Received: from alinga.newcastle.edu.au (c9412051@alinga.newcastle.edu.au [134.148.160.6]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA08357 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 10:06:54 -0700 Received: from localhost (c9412051@localhost) by alinga.newcastle.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA03981 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 03:06:47 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 03:06:45 +1000 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: ABERY L A To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: 'bug' MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Can any knowledgeable pine user tell me how to delete the old message which constantly appears when I want to send a message? It is a number of very old messages I sent when I first used pine, and it reappears each time I wish to write. ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 4 11:34:57 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 11:34:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA28672 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 11:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA16435; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 11:34:51 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA15172; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 11:34:34 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA60804 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 11:33:09 -0700 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA25402 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 11:33:08 -0700 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA18155 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 13:32:53 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 13:32:52 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: deleting old messages (was: 'bug') In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Please use a descriptive Subject. You aren't describing a bug. >From: ABERY L A >Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 03:06:45 +1000 (EST) >Can any knowledgeable pine user tell me how to delete the old message >which constantly appears when I want to send a message? >It is a number of very old messages I sent when I first used pine, and it >reappears each time I wish to write. Since you haven't given a complete description of what's happening, I can only guess. When you invoke the composer, are you offered the opportunity to continue either interrupted or postponed messages? If you no longer need them, answer "yes", choose one of the messages, and cancel it when you are in the composer. You get a postponed message when you use control-o in the composer. You may get an interrupted message if you drop your connection and pine is able to save it. ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 4 22:12:17 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 22:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA07852 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 22:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA12796; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 22:12:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA04183; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 22:11:46 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA61500 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 22:10:07 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA30507 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 22:10:06 -0700 Received: from fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (0@fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.8]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA12781 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 22:10:04 -0700 Received: from fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (6782@fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.7]) by fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA76865 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 23:09:59 -0600 Received: from localhost (brewhaha@localhost) by fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA87918 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 23:09:58 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 23:09:58 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Raja To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Quoted printable when 8bit specified. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Headers, snipped of irrelevant data. > Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Allaince_Qwaybek_cr=E9era_le_Qu=E9bec_so?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?__uverain?= > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT All the above headers came from the same message. Pine 3.95 is apparently using quoted-printable and 8bit at the same time. Fixed someone this bug in Pine 3.96? ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 5 09:47:47 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 09:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA17703 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 09:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA29841; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 09:47:41 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA21202; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 09:47:20 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA82010 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 09:45:12 -0700 Received: from cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.84.238]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA01243 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 09:45:11 -0700 Message-Id: <199807051645.MAA06236@ocalhost> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 12:45:02 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Binary In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Author: "Adam H. Kerman" Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 00:31:41 -0500 (CDT) ID: > Today, aren't all uuencodes using base64? Nope. NeXT machines, for one, are still using uuencode which != base64 and I would imagine older SunOS machines are doing the same. TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 6 01:42:54 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 01:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA25452 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 01:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA29836; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 01:42:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA04152; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 01:40:47 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA24702 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 01:38:19 -0700 Received: from lancaster.nexor.co.uk (lancaster.nexor.co.uk [128.243.9.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA03264 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 01:38:18 -0700 Received: from skyhawk.nexor.co.uk by lancaster.nexor.co.uk with SMTP (NEXOR MMTA 2.2); Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:38:11 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:38:08 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: John Berthels To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Quoted printable when 8bit specified. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, Raja wrote: > Headers, snipped of irrelevant data. > > > Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Allaince_Qwaybek_cr=E9era_le_Qu=E9bec_so?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?__uverain?= > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT > > All the above headers came from the same message. Pine 3.95 is apparently > using quoted-printable and 8bit at the same time. Fixed someone this > bug in Pine 3.96? I believe a Content-Transfer-Encoding header just applies to the bodypart (or single bodypart message) it heads. The use of RFC2047 headers (the encoding quoted above) is unrelated to the choice of transfer encoding used. In a similar way, in a multi-bodypart message, each bodypart may have a different Content-Transfer-Encoding. So, I don't think this is a bug. jb -- John Berthels Email: j.berthels@nexor.co.uk X.400: /G=john/S=berthels/O=nexor/P=nexor/A=cwmail/C=gb/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 6 08:30:29 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 08:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA22695 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 08:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA05198; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 08:30:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA27302; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 08:28:36 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA38632 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 08:26:28 -0700 Received: from spira.plb.de (root@spira.plb.de [193.175.255.7]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA15465 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 08:26:27 -0700 Received: from spira.plb.de (bork@spira.plb.de [193.175.255.7]) by spira.plb.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA01813; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 17:41:57 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 17:41:56 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "H. Bork" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: deferred mailing ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "h. bork" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, does anyone here happen to know a Pine function to allow for deferred mailing, i.e. send a mail at a defined date/time ? Do Pine 3.96 or forthcoming 4.0 ease in some way the use of well-known mailer / operating system features (cron etc) to this end or support any such function by themselves ? Direct replies welcome. TIA and kind regards, hal :-) ---------------------------------------------------------- bork@plb.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 6 09:42:58 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA32554 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA07283; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:42:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA15308; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:38:08 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA55950 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:36:06 -0700 Received: from mail.ntplx.net (mail.ntplx.net [204.213.176.10]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA28268 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:36:05 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.ntplx.net (8.8.7/NETPLEX) id MAA15157 for u.washington.edu!pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:36:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macdco by mail.ntplx.net; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:36 EDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:36:04 -0400 (EDT) >Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:35:42 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David Giannelli To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine for SCO MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: dcg@macdco.com X-Sender: dcg@macdco X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN How would I get the latest version of Pine 3.96 for SCO unix 3.2.4 Would it have to be compiled for SCO as I didn't see a SCO version of Pine on the FTP site. Thank You ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 6 10:23:11 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA31964 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:23:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA08412; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:23:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA13766; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:21:34 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA10204 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:19:23 -0700 Received: from fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (0@fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.8]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA00834 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:19:22 -0700 Received: from fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (6782@fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.7]) by fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA75013 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:19:21 -0600 Received: from localhost (brewhaha@localhost) by fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA65528 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:19:20 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:19:19 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Raja To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Quoted printable when 8bit specified. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, John Berthels wrote: > The use of RFC2047 headers (the encoding quoted above) is unrelated to the > choice of transfer encoding used. Mean you that it's supposed to be "quoted-printable" by default, and there's no way to put 8bit in headers? > So, I don't think this is a bug. If not, the design sucks. It looks horrible, and the threaded news reader (Tin) here doesn't do "quoted-printable". It would've been better to specify that MIME headers come first. They do if you put 8bit characters in headers anyway. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 6 10:51:53 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA25316 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:51:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA09280; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:51:45 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA04132; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:51:01 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA69752 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:49:00 -0700 Received: from tor.abc.se (root@tor.abc.se [192.36.170.11]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA13764 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:48:59 -0700 Received: from SERVER00 (dialup-10 [195.17.73.10]) by tor.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA15590 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 19:48:54 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199807061748.TAA15590@tor.abc.se> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 19:48:26 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Konrad To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: system user Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: m9652@suncd.abc.se X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN in unix it is possible to setup pine to start whith the current user logged on, so it automaticly gets the users name emailadress, server etc in PC pine, is it possible to make pine take the current username from somewhere? /kb ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA01239 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA12406; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:38:32 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA25200; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:37:58 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA63482 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:33:45 -0700 Received: from panther2.pen.eiu.edu (panther2.pen.eiu.edu [139.67.9.3]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA24957 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:33:44 -0700 Received: from panther1.pen.eiu.edu (panther1.pen.eiu.edu [139.67.9.2]) by panther2.pen.eiu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA29835 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:31:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (cueab4@localhost) by panther1.pen.eiu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA16176 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:31:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:31:57 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Elizabeth Barrell To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: panther1.pen.eiu.edu: cueab4 owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN There's a few addresses from which I do not want to receive mail, and I was hoping there was a way to permanently block incoming messages from them. Is there? Can anybody help? Thanks ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA05741 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA14109; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:44:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA27168; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:42:32 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA31588 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:20:12 -0700 Received: from tor.abc.se (root@tor.abc.se [192.36.170.11]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA20279 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:20:10 -0700 Received: from jonze.abc.se (dialup-13 [195.17.73.13]) by tor.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA20549; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:20:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from jonze (jea@jonze [127.0.0.1]) by jonze.abc.se (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA00757; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:19:50 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:19:50 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jonas Anderson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: help In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: Elizabeth Barrell X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: jea@jonze X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN =09On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, Elizabeth Barrell wrote: =09 =09You should check out Procmail, it does all kinds of =09filtering. > There's a few addresses from which I do not want to receive mail, and I > was hoping there was a way to permanently block incoming messages from > them. Is there? Can anybody help? =20 >=20 > Thanks >=20 >=20 > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:=20 > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 =09Jonas __ e-mail*jea@abc.se =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D R=E4var skall man inte skjuta. R=E4var skall man lura. Det brukar alltid ja= g g=F6ra, sa Findus From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:46:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA05925 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:46:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA24975; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:46:18 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA02313; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:44:57 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA87546 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:39:34 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id NAA16580 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:39:31 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de (131.220.225.124,2189) by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM/VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 06 Jul 98 22:39:33 MEZ Received: (from robin@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA27215; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:08:58 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 06 Jul 1998 22:08:56 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Filtering Mail (was: help) In-Reply-To: Elizabeth Barrell's message of "Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:31:57 -0500 (CDT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN * Elizabeth Barrell writes: > There's a few addresses from which I do not want to receive > mail, and I was hoping there was a way to permanently block > incoming messages from them. Is there? Can anybody help? Sure. Just read the Pine FAQ (called QandA) to find the URL for Nancy McGough's fabulous filtering mail FAQ. All the answers are in there. Something else: please use a meaningful subject - "help" describes 99% of all requests sent here. Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Control Risks Ltd. ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:54:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA05815 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA14377; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:54:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA28334; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:53:51 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA46664 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:52:26 -0700 Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA17931 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:52:25 -0700 Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA00151 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:52:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:52:23 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jim Sander To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: help In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > There's a few addresses from which I do not want to receive mail, and I > was hoping there was a way to permanently block incoming messages from > them. Is there? Can anybody help? If you're root on your server, this shouldn't be too difficult to do- just set up mail to "whatever@yourdomain" to point to either a junk mail account that you periodically clean out or to /dev/null. If you're not root, or you otherwise don't want to mess with that kind of thing, set up a .forward to the dummy account for each account you want to block from receiving mail. (won't work if you're trying to keep users from modifying this) (can probably even direct the mail into /dev/null too although I've never tried it) If absolute worst comes to worst, simply create a soft link to /dev/null in the mail spool directory corresponding to that account name. What comes in won't stay in for very long. There are probly other ways too. Procmail is cool- and definitely worth learning, but probably not the tool to do this job depending upon what you really want to do. -=Jim=- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA06190 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:56:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA14421; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:56:24 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA28477; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:55:55 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA46694 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:54:31 -0700 Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA18139 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:54:30 -0700 Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA00498 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jim Sander To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Unsend! Unsend! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN OK- I totally blew it and misinterpreted that question... Ignore everything I said in it. Procmail actually *is* the tool for the job- I had the work order upside-down. ;) -=Jim=- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA03765 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA25948; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:21:02 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA13714; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:20:22 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA57976 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:18:58 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA26694 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:18:58 -0700 Received: from malasada.lava.net (root@malasada.lava.net [199.222.42.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA15073 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:18:55 -0700 Received: from dynamic.lava.net(alula022.lava.net[207.26.195.21]) (1801 bytes) by malasada.lava.net via sendmail with P:smtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:18:23 -1000 (HST) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #4 built 1998-Jul-3) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980706111838.00802ca0@mail.9netave.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 11:18:38 -1000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: ElectroMarine Services To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: help! - I messed up my .addressbook Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: m1146802@mail.9netave.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help! - I messed up my .addressbook Cc: support@lava.net, naia@lava.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ok - the short story.... had an PINE addressbook all setup from some time back - had been working with an apparently older version of pine in those days (1.5-2 years ago) - that handled addressbook functions differently - now have pine 3.96 on lava.net 's unix shell. the older? vers, allowed me to paste-in addresses one at a time, just the address - without having to input nicknames, fullnames etc. - this ver doesn't seem to want to let me do this. so... back to the short story.... I downloaded the .addressbook file in ascii mode via ftp and added a whole bunch of addresses to it, following the same format (, , ....... ) and sent it back up, overwriting what was there.... now the buggah doesn't read right, within the addressbook function of pine.... this, after spending hours putting all the new addresses into it :( anybody got any clues as to how to go about fixing this one? TIA aloha danno http://holoholo.org/ Hawaii's First Ocean Sports Ezine - on The Wire since 2/1/95 lektrode@lava.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA12716 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:36:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA23262; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:36:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA28122; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:35:49 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA65130 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:34:20 -0700 Received: from ns1.africaonline.co.ke (ns1.africaonline.co.ke [199.103.176.6]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA26537 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:34:15 -0700 Received: from africaonline.co.ke (dhcp86.africaonline.co.ke [10.176.0.86]) by ns1.africaonline.co.ke (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA29698; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 07:38:27 +0300 (GMT) Message-Id: <35A1A650.FF06093F@africaonline.co.ke> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 07:38:43 +0300 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Richard Bosire To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine for SCO References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: David Giannelli X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN check on the sco web site ( skunkware version 5 should have it .) ciao bosire David Giannelli wrote: > How would I get the latest version of Pine 3.96 for SCO unix > 3.2.4 > > Would it have to be compiled for SCO as I didn't see a SCO > version of Pine on the FTP site. > > Thank You > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA12940 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA23543; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:57:24 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA28683; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:57:02 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA39386 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:55:45 -0700 Received: from fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (0@fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.8]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA27837 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:55:44 -0700 Received: from fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (6782@fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.7]) by fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA49891 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:55:43 -0600 Received: from localhost (brewhaha@localhost) by fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA47638 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:55:42 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:55:42 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Raja To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: help! - I messed up my .addressbook In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980706111838.00802ca0@mail.9netave.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, ElectroMarine Services wrote: (long story about why you're manually editing .addressbook snipped) > so... back to the short story.... > > I downloaded the .addressbook file in ascii mode via ftp and added a whole > bunch of addresses to it, following the same format > (, , ....... ) and sent > it back up, overwriting what was there.... That was a mistake...overwriting. > now the buggah doesn't read right, within the addressbook function of pine.... > > this, after spending hours putting all the new addresses into it :( > > anybody got any clues as to how to go about fixing this one? Take a very close look at the format of addresses that Pine makes in the file. Emulate the format carefully. Start by typing just one address directly into the file. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA16707 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA10454; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:31:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA21142; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:31:05 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA87464 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:29:00 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA08021 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:29:00 -0700 Received: from dns.bibli.it ([192.106.191.33]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA29124 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:28:56 -0700 Received: from dns.bibli.it (dns.bibli.it [192.106.191.33]) by dns.bibli.it (8.8.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA13290 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:35:00 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:35:00 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: gundl hitchings To: Pine Discussion Forum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello again, ok so now im a proud subscriber to the pine info list. pine is the coolest. could you please tell me how to go about forwarding the entire contents of a folder? there is a printer at that final destination, and i would like to keep a hard copy of my pine journal. Gundl Hitchings thank you oh so much, Gu ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:56:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA21147 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA10749; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:56:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA26650; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:55:51 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA70316 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:53:55 -0700 Received: from public.ndh.com (public.ndh.net [194.97.97.21]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA09200 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:53:54 -0700 Received: from fireball.control-risks.de (port206.koeln.ndh.net [195.94.92.206]) by public.ndh.com (8.8.7/8.8.0) with ESMTP id OAA26614 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:53:36 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from rss@localhost) by fireball.control-risks.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA25412; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:51:58 +0200 Message-Id: <19980707145155.A25240@control-risks.de> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:51:55 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: ; from gundl hitchings on Tue, Jul 07, 1998 at 02:35:00PM +0200 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Quoting gundl hitchings (gundl@bibli.it): > could you please tell me how to go about forwarding the entire contents of > a folder? there is a printer at that final destination, and i would like > to keep a hard copy of my pine journal. The folder is a single file in a directory called mail or Mail (U*ix is case sensitive) in a directory /home/gundl. You can attach that file to a mail which you then send to its "final destination". You could also save it to a floppy though. Since that is dependant on your local configuration, you had best talk to your sysadmin. Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Control Risks Germany Ltd. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 08:21:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA22225 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 08:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA13042; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 08:21:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA26285; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 08:21:13 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA78232 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 08:19:11 -0700 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA01448 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 08:19:10 -0700 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA27609 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 10:18:57 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 10:18:57 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: forwarding a file In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In the future, never send a message without a descriptive Subject. >From: gundl hitchings >Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:35:00 +0200 (MET DST) >could you please tell me how to go about forwarding the entire contents of >a folder? there is a printer at that final destination, and i would like >to keep a hard copy of my pine journal. What do you mean by "journal"? A folder is a file containing e-mail messages. You can use any means available to you: ftp, IMAP, zipping it and attaching it to an e-mail message, etc. If it's rather large, then use ftp or zip it and attach it to a message. I don't know what tools you have. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA21201 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA15806; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:27:02 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA00916; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:26:32 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA78308 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:24:08 -0700 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (mailhost1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA21583 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:24:07 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id QAA07457; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:23:59 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Stefan Kramer To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: forwarding the entire contents of a folder In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset = US-ASCII X-To: gundl hitchings X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, gundl hitchings wrote: gh} .... gh} could you please tell me how to go about forwarding the entire contents of gh} a folder? gh} .... Have a look at the section "How can I forward messages I have already saved in Pine to another account?" at http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/problems.html -- SK From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 08:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA14666 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 08:13:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA11978; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 08:13:47 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA16566; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 08:12:59 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA70912 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 08:09:18 -0700 Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA30297 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 08:09:17 -0700 Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (8.7.6/BZS-8-1.0) id LAA23653; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:09:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by world.std.com (TheWorld/Spike-2.0) id AA03618; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:09:12 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:09:12 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jeff A Kinsey To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: ibm 3151 terminals Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN i see a note from oct'97 abouut getting these to work. but no answer. does any one know how? thanks -jeff ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA18432 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:15:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA19510; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:15:34 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA20310; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:14:35 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA72850 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:12:32 -0700 Received: from admin.aurora.edu (admin.aurora.edu [192.203.224.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA21805 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:12:31 -0700 Received: from morton.facnet.aurora.edu (boll.facnet.aurora.edu [205.212.40.222]) by admin.aurora.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA03391 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:09:16 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980708141104.007e4d60@admin.aurora.edu> Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 14:11:04 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Cathy Boll To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Permission denied on .pinerc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: cboll@admin.aurora.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I hope that you can help me. I am in the process of moving Pine 3.96 from a Digital Ultrix V4.4 system to a Digital Unix 4.0D system. When one of the users logs on, he gets the message "Error saving configuration in file /usr/users/username/.pinerc permission denied". I have the same permissions on my own .pinerc file and my works just fine. What could be causing this? He also gets the message "Note: some of your config options conflict with site policy and are ignored". I am prompted to investigate when I attempt to configure the setup. The two offending options are: addrbook-sort-rule and enable-suspend. When I try to change these, I get the message "can't change sys-admin defined value". Please note that I copied his .pinerc file from the old system to the new and he has a number of changes from the supplied default. I have only started testing on the new machine with a few users and I am very concerned if I cannot bring the users old .pinerc files to the new system. Thanks for your help. Cathy Boll ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA20933 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA21763; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:35:20 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA23314; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:33:44 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA87372 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:31:51 -0700 Received: from uu7.psi.com (uu7.psi.com [38.8.39.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA29823 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:31:48 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uu7.psi.com (8.8.8/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) with UUCP id UAA10266 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:31:47 GMT Received: by jandr.com (8.6.13/200.19.1.1) id QAA24066; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:18:59 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:18:59 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe DiBenedetto To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Permission denied on .pinerc In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980708141104.007e4d60@admin.aurora.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Cathy Boll X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: joed@jrmusic X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Cathy, It could be that the directory where the .pinerc lives has insufficient write permissions. Check this by typing: cd /usr/users/username ls -ld . You should get a listing that looks something like: drwxrwxrwx 18 root other 20480 Jul 8 10:51 . If any of the w's are missing, that's you're problem. If not, it could be that the username or id # is different on the new system, which would disallow the user from updating the .pinerc file. Make sure you assign the same id #s to each user on the new system. As for the message regarding site policy, that is being caused by the presence of a pine.conf file in /usr/local/pine or whatever the equivalent directory is on your Digital Unix system. This file overrides whatever is in the users .pinerc file. Joe DiBenedetto On Wed, 8 Jul 1998, Cathy Boll wrote: > I hope that you can help me. I am in the process of moving Pine 3.96 from > a Digital Ultrix V4.4 system to a Digital Unix 4.0D system. > > When one of the users logs on, he gets the message "Error saving > configuration in file /usr/users/username/.pinerc permission denied". I > have the same permissions on my own .pinerc file and my works just fine. > What could be causing this? > > He also gets the message "Note: some of your config options conflict with > site policy and are ignored". I am prompted to investigate when I attempt > to configure the setup. The two offending options are: addrbook-sort-rule > and enable-suspend. When I try to change these, I get the message "can't > change sys-admin defined value". Please note that I copied his .pinerc > file from the old system to the new and he has a number of changes from the > supplied default. > > I have only started testing on the new machine with a few users and I am > very concerned if I cannot bring the users old .pinerc files to the new > system. > > Thanks for your help. > > Cathy Boll > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA15283 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA09050; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:39:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA27781; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:38:21 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA70144 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:36:42 -0700 Received: from cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.84.238]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA01462 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:36:40 -0700 Message-Id: <199807082036.QAA04751@ocalhost> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:36:35 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Permission denied on .pinerc In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980708141104.007e4d60@admin.aurora.edu> References: <3.0.5.32.19980708141104.007e4d60@admin.aurora.edu> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Author: Cathy Boll Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 14:11:04 -0500 ID: <3.0.5.32.19980708141104.007e4d60@admin.aurora.edu> > When one of the users logs on, he gets the message "Error saving > configuration in file /usr/users/username/.pinerc permission denied". I > have the same permissions on my own .pinerc file and my works just fine. > What could be causing this? What about the permissions of the parent directory? Have you tried a different pinerc file using the -p flag? > He also gets the message "Note: some of your config options conflict with > site policy and are ignored". I am prompted to investigate when I attempt > to configure the setup. The two offending options are: addrbook-sort-rule > and enable-suspend. When I try to change these, I get the message "can't > change sys-admin defined value". Please note that I copied his .pinerc > file from the old system to the new and he has a number of changes from the > supplied default. Sounds like you have a /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed file on this new system I know what 'enable-suspend' might be sorted off, but 'addrbook-sort-rule' shouldn't be set by the administrators. TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:49:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA21820 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA09345; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:49:08 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA03342; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:48:18 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA66692 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:46:39 -0700 Received: from news.mtu.edu (root@news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA02580 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:46:38 -0700 Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02891; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:46:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rock.me.mtu.edu (root@rock.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.31]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07769; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:46:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hanky.me.mtu.edu (hanky.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.130]) by rock.me.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/mturelay-1.2) with SMTP id QAA04773; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:46:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:46:01 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edan Idzerda To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Permission denied on .pinerc In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Joe DiBenedetto X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: edan@hanky.me.mtu.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 8 Jul 1998, Joe DiBenedetto wrote: > cd /usr/users/username > ls -ld . > > You should get a listing that looks something like: > > drwxrwxrwx 18 root other 20480 Jul 8 10:51 . > > If any of the w's are missing, that's you're problem. If not, it could Err? Since when did any normal user's directory need to allow full write permission to everyone on the system? I think a better example would be: % ls -ld ~ 0 drwx--x--x 46 edan other 12288 Jul 8 16:43 /home/blah/edan/ If THAT 'w' is missing, then that's the problem, but that seems too easy. I would be interested in what happens if you do % cd % touch afile % pico afile (write some stuff, quit) If that doesn't work, then this isn't a pine problem. - edan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA21119 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:13:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA22797; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:13:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA25001; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:12:59 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA87540 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:11:14 -0700 Received: from uu7.psi.com (uu7.psi.com [38.8.39.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA14296 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:11:12 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uu7.psi.com (8.8.8/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) with UUCP id VAA15555 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 21:11:10 GMT Received: by jandr.com (8.6.13/200.19.1.1) id RAA06892; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 17:10:31 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 17:10:31 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe DiBenedetto To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Permission denied on .pinerc In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Edan Idzerda X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: joed@jrmusic X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN OK, you got me. It's been a long day... Joe On Wed, 8 Jul 1998, Edan Idzerda wrote: > Err? Since when did any normal user's directory need to allow full > write permission to everyone on the system? > > I think a better example would be: > > % ls -ld ~ 0 > drwx--x--x 46 edan other 12288 Jul 8 16:43 /home/blah/edan/ > > If THAT 'w' is missing, then that's the problem, but that seems > too easy. > > I would be interested in what happens if you do > > % cd > % touch afile > % pico afile (write some stuff, quit) > > If that doesn't work, then this isn't a pine problem. > > - edan > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:27:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA20005 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA17759; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:27:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA08243; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:25:34 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA78292 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:23:28 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA03431 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:23:27 -0700 Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA00588; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:23:20 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA16842; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:07:36 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA18238 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 19:54:18 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA09837 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 19:54:18 -0700 Received: from localhost (mikes@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id TAA19921 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 19:54:17 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 19:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Seibel To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.00 now available MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: PINE-ANNOUNCE-owner@u.washington.edu X-To: Pine Announcement List X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System version 4.00. This release represents many months of work and introduces significant new functionality. Nearly every aspect of Pine's behavior has seen enhancement in one way or another. A reasonably detailed list of improvements can be found in the built-in release notes ("R" off the Main Menu), and via: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine and: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs As for performance expectations, note that this version has not been exposed to widespread general use. Due to the amount of new and revised code, it is important that you carefully test and determine for yourself that it performs suitably in your environment before placing it into production use. Source for the latest Pine release is available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz and precompiled binaries for the various systems we have direct access to are available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed Unfortunately, PC-Pine cannot be made available at this time. There remains a small set of PC-specific enhancements not yet fully implemented nor tested. Please stay tuned! As always, Thanks and Enjoy! Sincerely, The Pine Development Team ------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html ------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 03:11:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA01883 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 03:11:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id DAA22714; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 03:11:17 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA19401; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 03:10:45 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA57450 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 03:08:11 -0700 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id DAA21937 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 03:08:10 -0700 Received: from slip139-92-33-156.lju.si.ibm.net (ssdipola@slip139-92-33-156.lju.si.ibm.net [139.92.33.156]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA26744 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:08:07 GMT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:09:33 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Iztok Polanic To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.00 problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ssdipola@alpha.computers.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello !!! I've already have some problems with Pine 4.00 :) 1. I always get this when I start pine: Mailbox vulnerable - error creating /var/spool/mail/ssdipola.lock.899977868.6153.alpha: Permission denied What should I do??? -------- 2. Why is pine creating .pine-debug*??? Is there a way how to prevent pine from doing this??? -------- 3. I have this in /usr/lib/pine.conf (main conf file) global-address-book={/usr/lib/pine.addressbook} but it doesn't work :( --------- That's all for now!!! xxxxxx ////// xx xx ( o o ) xx xx /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ xxxx | From: Iztok Polanic | xx xx | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | xx xx | WWW: http://kotzi.home.ml.org | xx xx \-----------------------------------------/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 06:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA00959 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 06:25:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA07929; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 06:25:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA27261; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 06:24:18 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA69440 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 06:22:43 -0700 Received: from admin.aurora.edu (admin.aurora.edu [192.203.224.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA30228 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 06:22:42 -0700 Received: from morton.facnet.aurora.edu (boll.facnet.aurora.edu [205.212.40.222]) by admin.aurora.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA22571 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 08:19:25 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980709082111.007a69f0@admin.aurora.edu> Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 08:21:11 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Cathy Boll To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Permission denied on .pinerc In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980708141104.007e4d60@admin.aurora.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: cboll@admin.aurora.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thank you to everyone who answered this request for help. The .pinerc problem was indeed caused by improper ownership of the /usr/users/username directory and not down at the file level. The config problem is also resolved. The user had an old .pinerc file that used options that conflicted with the pine.conf file. Again, thanks for your help. Cathy Boll At 02:11 PM 7/8/98 -0500, you wrote: >I hope that you can help me. I am in the process of moving Pine 3.96 from >a Digital Ultrix V4.4 system to a Digital Unix 4.0D system. > >When one of the users logs on, he gets the message "Error saving >configuration in file /usr/users/username/.pinerc permission denied". I >have the same permissions on my own .pinerc file and my works just fine. >What could be causing this? > >He also gets the message "Note: some of your config options conflict with >site policy and are ignored". I am prompted to investigate when I attempt >to configure the setup. The two offending options are: addrbook-sort-rule >and enable-suspend. When I try to change these, I get the message "can't >change sys-admin defined value". Please note that I copied his .pinerc >file from the old system to the new and he has a number of changes from the >supplied default. > >I have only started testing on the new machine with a few users and I am >very concerned if I cannot bring the users old .pinerc files to the new >system. > >Thanks for your help. > >Cathy Boll > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 07:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA02891 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 07:11:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA25765; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 07:11:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA28738; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 07:10:50 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA69554 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 07:09:30 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA09303 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 07:09:29 -0700 Received: from cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.84.238]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA25738 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 07:09:26 -0700 Message-Id: <199807091409.KAA14611@ocalhost> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:09:23 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine4: confusion over default folder Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've read the online/context help, and I'm still not understanding. How do I use ~/Unix/pine/mail/ rather than ~/mail/ ? TjL, filing this under "non backwards compatible items" ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:57:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA08052 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA00118; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:57:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA01770; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:56:21 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA70932 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:54:34 -0700 Received: from rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl (root@rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl [148.81.15.15]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA17547 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:54:31 -0700 Received: from qrnik.knm.org.pl (root@ppp4-151.warszawa.tpnet.pl [195.205.246.151]) by rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA32576 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 18:54:20 +0200 Received: from qrnik.knm.org.pl (qrczak@qrnik.knm.org.pl [127.0.0.1]) by qrnik.knm.org.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA08749 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 18:56:08 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 18:56:03 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Various bugs and suggestions to pine 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Please tell if I should split it into separate messages next time. 1. I have Linux and glibc-2.0.7-13 and had to add -lcrypt manually to build pine. 2. Folder list, W something, ^X. This doesn't rearrange folder names correctly (as selecting with `:' does). 3. It would be nice if TAB TAB displayed possible completions for e.g. name of file to attach or insert, not only for folders. 4. When selectable items are in every line near the bottom of message, first DOWN key scrolls the text one line, second one selects the link that just appeared, third scrolls next line, fourth selects next link... So I think it would be more convenient if scrolling by one line selected the last link on that line as well (or first link, when scrollong up), so continuous scrolling would be more even. 5. When I am in postponed-msgs folder and attempt to continue postponed composition, I get: [>Another Pine is accessing Inbox. Session now Read-Only.<] Then some evil things may occur, e.g. garbage in that message. 6. If .signature file already begins with "-- ", pine should not add the second one. Some people may keep it there for other programs. 7. Pine could make links from email addresses without mailto: as well. 8. It would be nice if the string "On [someday], [somebody] wrote:" was configurable, wouldn't it? 9. Sometimes crossposts are deleted, sometimes not... Unfortunately now I can't detect and say exactly when. But one thing is obviously true: after unexclusion of a large newsgroup with `&' and then exiting it, smart enough program shouldn't have to examine all previously deleted messages for crossposts! 10. When you have time to think about improving a composer, I would suggest to start with writing a block to a file and piping a block through a command. Yes, I know I can attach an external editor, but it would not integrate with the rest of pine so nice :-) 11. I hope that the bugs I've told about, long time ago, to pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu, will be fixed sometime, as some of them still remain in version 4.00... I guess there is no need to repeat them here now, or am I wrong? 12. Is there a sense in telling about much larger wishes about pine? Unicode? Threading? Thanks for pine, I found it the most convenient mailer and newsreader! Version 4.00 is much better. But it still has bugs :-| I may try to dig into sources and correct some of these bugs myself, but unfortunately not until September. -- __("< Marcin Kowalczyk * qrczak@knm.org.pl http://qrczak.home.ml.org/ \__/ GCS/M d- s+:-- a21 C+++>+++$ UL++>++++$ P+++ L++>++++$ E->++ ^^ W++ N+++ o? K? w(---) O? M- V? PS-- PE++ Y? PGP->+ t QRCZAK 5? X- R tv-- b+>++ DI D- G+ e>++++ h! r--%>++ y- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:38:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA06641 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA14102; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:38:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA03703; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:37:31 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA59718 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:36:15 -0700 Received: from aud.alcatel.com (rockdal.aud.alcatel.com [128.251.30.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id KAA19394 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:36:14 -0700 Received: from rdxsunhost.Aud.Alcatel.COM by aud.alcatel.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13626; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:37:41 CDT Received: from rwasic14.rwasics by rdxsunhost.Aud.Alcatel.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14225; Thu, 9 Jul 98 12:36:11 CDT Received: by rwasic14.rwasics (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA14065; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:31:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199807091731.MAA14065@rwasic14.rwasics> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:31:21 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: deancr@aud.alcatel.com (Charlie R. Dean) To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Various bugs and suggestions to pine 4.00 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Md5: d0SKtlpFFPXTdPkTw016Kg== X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Does pine have some type of "vacation message" setup? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA08981 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:44:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA01499; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:44:47 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA15988; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:43:47 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA59838 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:42:34 -0700 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA20210 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:42:33 -0700 Received: from D-140-142-110-111.dhcp2.washington.edu (D-140-142-110-111.dhcp2.washington.edu [140.142.110.111]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id KAA18258; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:42:27 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Stefan Kramer To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Why is pine creating .pine-debug* [was: Re: Pine 4.00 problems] In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset = US-ASCII X-To: Iztok Polanic X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: skramer@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Iztok Polanic wrote: IP} Message-ID: IP} From: Iztok Polanic IP} To: Pine Discussion Forum IP} Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:09:33 +0200 (MET DST) IP} Subject: Pine 4.00 problems IP} .... IP} 2. Why is pine creating .pine-debug*??? Is there a way how to prevent pine IP} from doing this??? IP} .... See '3.13 What are these .pine-debug files for?' at http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/problems.html ---------------------------------------------------- Stefan Kramer \|/ skramer@cac.washington.edu ---------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA31443 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA02478; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:19:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA17054; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:16:17 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA85066 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:14:47 -0700 Received: from libby.tcnet.org (500@tcnet.org [199.176.180.4]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA23956 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:14:45 -0700 Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by libby.tcnet.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA32176; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 14:14:21 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 14:14:20 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jeff To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Various bugs and suggestions to pine 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk wrote: > Please tell if I should split it into separate messages next time. > > 1. I have Linux and glibc-2.0.7-13 and had to add -lcrypt manually to > build pine. I too am attempting to build under a glibc system- RedHat 5.0 with glibc-2.0.7-13. I've tried a few things, and likely the large breakfast of caffeine is clouding my memory, but- could you describe how you went about adding -lcrypt manually? Also... there exist lnx, slx, and sl5 builds/ports for Linux... if using shadow passwords and glibc, am i correct in assuming that i need to use slx to build? Many, many thanks- -jeff From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:41:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA09712 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA15879; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:41:36 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA10187; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:39:54 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA32810 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:38:28 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA26666 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:38:27 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by kens.com (8.8.8/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA02864; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 14:38:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 14:38:25 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Various bugs and suggestions to pine 4.00 In-Reply-To: <199807091731.MAA14065@rwasic14.rwasics> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Charlie R. Dean" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Pine is not elm. Pine is also not sendmail. man vacation man sendmail On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Charlie R. Dean wrote: > Does pine have some type of "vacation message" setup? -- Ken Woods kwoodskens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA05122 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA19178; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:40:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA07881; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:39:10 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA65096 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:37:42 -0700 Received: from skipper.robotics.net (cc305594-a.hwrd1.md.home.com [24.3.62.76]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA07758 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:37:41 -0700 Received: from savage ([207.123.161.41]) by skipper.robotics.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24030 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:37:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from nathan@robotics.net) Message-Id: <199807092037.QAA24030@skipper.robotics.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 16:38:55 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nathan Stratton To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.00 under FreeBSD In-Reply-To: References: <199807091731.MAA14065@rwasic14.rwasics> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: nathan@skipper.robotics.net (Unverified) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I compiled pine last night under FreeBSD 2.2.6 and now when I try to run pine or pico I get the following: ld.so failed: Undefined symbol "_timeo" in pine:pine P.S. How much would someone need to pay for PGP support? -Nathan ><> Nathan Stratton Telecom & ISP Consulting www.robotics.net nathan@robotics.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA13363 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:58:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA19684; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:57:59 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA17257; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:57:04 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA57344 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:55:39 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA13373 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:55:32 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by kens.com (8.8.8/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA03575; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:55:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:55:22 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.00 under FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199807092037.QAA24030@skipper.robotics.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Nathan Stratton X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Edit ../src/pine4.0/pine/pine.h add "int timeo;" compile pico using "generic unix" type (it wouldnt compile w/ linux for some reason, probably expects glibc2...) Generic unix worked perfectly. cd .../src/pine4.0/pico;make -f makefile.gen cd .../src/pine4.0/pine;make -f makefile.lnx .../src/pine4.0/pico/pico <--binary .../src/pine4.0/pine/pine <--binary This works for some, and doesn't work for others. If you haven't tried it, then it's worth it. If you have tried this, and it didn't work, sorry, can't help ya. On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Nathan Stratton wrote: > I compiled pine last night under FreeBSD 2.2.6 and now when I try to run > pine or pico I get the following: > > ld.so failed: Undefined symbol "_timeo" in pine:pine > > P.S. How much would someone need to pay for PGP support? > > -Nathan > > ><> > Nathan Stratton Telecom & ISP Consulting > www.robotics.net nathan@robotics.net > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Ken Woods kwoodskens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:14:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA15598 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA10940; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:13:56 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA19134; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:11:44 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA46750 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:05:31 -0700 Received: from rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl (root@rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl [148.81.15.15]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA01895 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:05:28 -0700 Received: from qrnik.knm.org.pl (root@ppp2-cst203.warszawa.tpnet.pl [195.116.250.203]) by rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA04550; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 01:03:51 +0200 Received: from qrnik.knm.org.pl (qrczak@qrnik.knm.org.pl [127.0.0.1]) by qrnik.knm.org.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA03411; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 23:19:28 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 23:19:26 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Various bugs and suggestions to pine 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jeff X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Jeff wrote: > could you describe how you went about adding -lcrypt manually? Also... > there exist lnx, slx, and sl5 builds/ports for Linux... if using > shadow passwords and glibc, am i correct in assuming that i need to > use slx to build? Oops, slx works for me (I previously did lnx), SORRY! I didn't ever know that slx exists, as there was only lnx in 3.96. Tried lnx, got linker errors about crypt, remembered that glibc AFAIK moved crypt into separate library, thought they maybe used some other glibc version? added BASELDFLAGS="-lcrypt" into imap/src/osdep/unix/Makefile under lnx and it worked. But it was my fault, as I should have read six lines above where I added -lcrypt :-) This Makefile says that slx is correct for glibc with shadow passwords. I have no idea about your problems :-( Ah, one more probable bug in pine: pine's Setup Newpassword looks for /bin/passwd, and I have it in /usr/bin/passwd (from passwd-0.50-11.*.rpm). -- __("< Marcin Kowalczyk * qrczak@knm.org.pl http://qrczak.home.ml.org/ \__/ GCS/M d- s+:-- a21 C+++>+++$ UL++>++++$ P+++ L++>++++$ E->++ ^^ W++ N+++ o? K? w(---) O? M- V? PS-- PE++ Y? PGP->+ t QRCZAK 5? X- R tv-- b+>++ DI D- G+ e>++++ h! r--%>++ y- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA15642 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA23071; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:16:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA00595; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:15:34 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA72928 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:14:05 -0700 Received: from lionking.org (btman@blacker-99.caltech.edu [131.215.86.99]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA27961 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:14:04 -0700 Received: from localhost (btman@localhost) by lionking.org (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA24818 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:14:02 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Brian Tiemann To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: 4.00 and FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: lionking.org: btman owned process doing -bs X-Sender: btman@lionking.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi-- I've tried upgrading to 4.00 on my FreeBSD 2.2.6 system. "build bsf" seems to compile everything correctly (no errors); however, trying to run pine (or pico, or pilot), I get: ld.so failed: Undefined symbol "_timeo" in pine:pine Has anyone been able to successfully build pine/4.00 for FreeBSD? And how come there aren't any *-bin.bsf binaries on the ftp server? :) Thanks! Brian ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:19:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA15811 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA11079; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:19:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA19439; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:18:41 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA61626 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:17:26 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA21509 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:17:25 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by kens.com (8.8.8/8.9.0) with SMTP id TAA04542; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:17:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:17:23 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: 4.00 and FreeBSD In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Brian Tiemann X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN You people don't read, do you?? I just posted a fix for this. Do I need to do it again??? On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Brian Tiemann wrote: > > Hi-- > > I've tried upgrading to 4.00 on my FreeBSD 2.2.6 system. > "build bsf" seems to compile everything correctly (no errors); however, > trying to run pine (or pico, or pilot), I get: > > ld.so failed: Undefined symbol "_timeo" in pine:pine > > Has anyone been able to successfully build pine/4.00 for FreeBSD? > And how come there aren't any *-bin.bsf binaries on the ftp server? :) > > Thanks! > > Brian > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Ken Woods kwoodskens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:21:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA14652 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA23220; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:21:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA00958; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:20:47 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA72880 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:19:32 -0700 Received: from lionking.org (btman@blacker-99.caltech.edu [131.215.86.99]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA25614 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:19:31 -0700 Received: from localhost (btman@localhost) by lionking.org (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA25066 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Brian Tiemann To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: 4.00 and FreeBSD In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: lionking.org: btman owned process doing -bs X-Sender: btman@lionking.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Ken Woods wrote: > You people don't read, do you?? > I just posted a fix for this. I'm sorry-- I should have prefaced my message with the usual "I just subscribed ten minutes ago and didn't see any reference to this subject in the archives". Brian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:25:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA14629 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:25:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA23374; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:25:46 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA23025; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:24:52 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA65114 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:23:38 -0700 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (mailhost1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA22150 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:23:37 -0700 Received: from D-140-142-110-126.dhcp2.washington.edu (D-140-142-110-126.dhcp2.washington.edu [140.142.110.126]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id QAA23832 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:23:35 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:25:55 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine4: confusion over default folder In-Reply-To: <199807091409.KAA14611@ocalhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset = US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Timothy, I'm not understanding the question. Could you elaborate? -teg On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > I've read the online/context help, and I'm still not understanding. > > How do I use ~/Unix/pine/mail/ rather than ~/mail/ ? > > TjL, filing this under "non backwards compatible items" > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA16588 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA26651; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:32:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA25492; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:31:03 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA46804 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:29:17 -0700 Received: from cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.84.238]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA10759 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:29:16 -0700 Message-Id: <199807100229.WAA18050@ocalhost> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 22:29:13 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine4: confusion over default folder In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Author: Terry Gray Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:25:55 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) ID: > I'm not understanding the question. Could you elaborate? Sure. Pine uses ~/mail to store mail. I don't want to use that folder, I want to use ~/Unix/pine/mail (to keep my $HOME clean.... I'm one of those people who recompiles programs to use ~/.commandline/whatever.rc rather than ~/.whatever.rc). My .pinerc is also at ~/Unix/pine/pine.rc. I can't seem to figure out how to tell PINE not to use ~/mail/ but use ~/Unix/pine/mail/ so when I do something like: pine -f active I get ~/Unix/pine/mail/active instead of ~/mail/active. Is that more clear? TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 20:18:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA18792 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 20:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA27306; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 20:18:49 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA29764; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 20:17:22 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA69158 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 20:15:34 -0700 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA07341 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 20:15:34 -0700 Received: from D-140-142-189-195.dhcp.washington.edu (D-140-142-189-195.dhcp.washington.edu [140.142.189.195]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id UAA06740; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 20:15:28 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 20:15:41 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine4: confusion over default folder In-Reply-To: <199807100229.WAA18050@ocalhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset = US-ASCII X-To: Timothy J Luoma X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN OK, got it. Try putting this in your .pinerc: folder-collections=~/Unix/pine/mail/[] You can also set this from the Setup/Collections screen. (~/mail is indeed Pine's default, and always has been, but you can tell Pine to look in any directory or on remote IMAP servers to find folders.) -teg On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > Author: Terry Gray > Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:25:55 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) > ID: > > > I'm not understanding the question. Could you elaborate? > > Sure. > > Pine uses ~/mail to store mail. > > I don't want to use that folder, I want to use ~/Unix/pine/mail (to keep my > $HOME clean.... I'm one of those people who recompiles programs to use > ~/.commandline/whatever.rc rather than ~/.whatever.rc). My .pinerc is also > at ~/Unix/pine/pine.rc. > > I can't seem to figure out how to tell PINE not to use ~/mail/ but use > ~/Unix/pine/mail/ so when I do something like: > > pine -f active > > I get ~/Unix/pine/mail/active instead of ~/mail/active. > > Is that more clear? > > TjL > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:27:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA19339 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA28182; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:27:50 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA28042; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:26:24 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA57976 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:24:11 -0700 Received: from aero.iisc.ernet.in (aero.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.73.100]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA17369 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:24:06 -0700 Received: from localhost (niraj@localhost) by aero.iisc.ernet.in (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA08961 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 09:54:05 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 09:54:05 +0530 (IST) Reply-To: niraj@aero.iisc.ernet.in Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Niraj Sachdeva To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Trouble with imap on linux MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello Thanks a lot for bring out pine4.0. It is really good. I compiled it on HPUX10, HPUX9, and Linux. on all of then pine seems to be working fine. but imap does not seem to be working on a linux machine. When i try to logon from any machine, onto a linux machine, using imap (through pine) my login fails. i have even downloaded the imapd-linux.bin.Z precompiled binary from the distribution site, even that failed. However if i keep the old imapd (which came along with pine3.96) everything works other than saving a folder. could you please help me. thanks in advance. niraj \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // (/ @ @ /) ----------------------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo------------------------------- | Niraj Sachdeva E-mail: | | Research Scholar niraj@aero.iisc.ernet.in | | Department of Aerospace Engineering | | Indian Institute of Science | | Bangalore 560 012 Tel.(off) +91 (0) 80 309 2754 | | INDIA Tel.(res) +91 (0) 80 348 8666 | | | | WWW: http://aero.iisc.ernet.in/~niraj/home.html | | WWW: http://asterix.aero.iisc.ernet.in/~niraj/home.html | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA19383 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA28201; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:29:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA09058; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:28:02 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA65232 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:24:44 -0700 Received: from cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.84.238]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA11268 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:24:43 -0700 Message-Id: <199807100424.AAA21201@ocalhost> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:24:36 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine4: confusion over default folder In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-To: Terry Gray X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Author: Terry Gray Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 20:15:41 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) ID: > OK, got it. Try putting this in your .pinerc: > > folder-collections=~/Unix/pine/mail/[] > > You can also set this from the Setup/Collections screen. Hrm. I have this for 3.96 I wonder why it wasn't kept when I did the switch. Oh well, working now, thanks TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 22:50:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA20052 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 22:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA29107; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 22:50:00 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA29713; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 22:49:16 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA30032 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 22:47:03 -0700 Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de (norbert@apollonius.delta-ii.de [195.180.229.163]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA18401 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 22:47:01 -0700 Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08628; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 07:45:40 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 10 Jul 1998 07:45:40 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Trouble with imap on linux In-Reply-To: Niraj Sachdeva's message of "Fri, 10 Jul 1998 09:54:05 +0530 (IST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: norbert@lamia.delta-ii.de X-To: niraj@aero.iisc.ernet.in X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-URL: http://www.delta-ii.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Niraj Sachdeva writes: > not seem to be working on a linux machine. When i try to logon from > any machine, onto a linux machine, using imap (through pine) my Hi, hmm, this is strange. It seems to work for me, although I can't 'talk' imap (can anyone point me to a manual, please?). But it compiled fair enough and I am at least able to connect via telnet. I've just tried to access my mailbox with pine(3.96) from another machine with no troubles at all. Norbert, wondering ... -- Norbert Koch, DELTA Industrie Informatik GmbH, Fellbach, Germany. YOW: OMNIVERSAL AWARENESS?? Oh, YEH!! First you need 4 GALLONS of JELL-O and a BIG WRENCH!!... I think you drop th'WRENCH in the JELL-O as if it was a FLAVOR, or an INGREDIENT... ...or...I...um... WHERE'S the WASHING MACHINES? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 03:50:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA25144 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 03:50:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id DAA02739; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 03:50:43 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA07416; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 03:47:55 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA21238 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 03:46:01 -0700 Received: from corellia.piett.com (piett@h67.ryd.student.liu.se [130.236.239.67]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id DAA00424 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 03:46:00 -0700 Received: from localhost (piett@localhost) by corellia.piett.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA04394 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:45:57 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:45:57 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Henrik Edlund To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: 509 bytes mailbox with one crap-message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Mailing List X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hmm, why I am getting this new "control" message in my mailboxes from 4.00. Can this be shut off? Or do I have to go back to good old 3.96 to get rid of it. My wmmail constantly reports that I have 1 mail now even though I have no "real" mail... very annoying... -- Henrik Edlund http://www.piett.com/ "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Naturally they became heroes." Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 06:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA27525 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 06:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA22679; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 06:29:56 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA02047; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 06:29:06 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA30162 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 06:27:15 -0700 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA06768 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 06:27:14 -0700 Received: from slip139-92-33-7.lju.si.ibm.net (ssdipola@slip139-92-33-7.lju.si.ibm.net [139.92.33.7]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA77638 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:27:11 GMT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 15:28:31 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Iztok Polanic To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: imapd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ssdipola@alpha.computers.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello !!! Why am I getting this when I start pine: IMAP 15:24:53 7/10 mm_log warn: Mailbox vulnerable - error creating /var/spool/ etc........ but I don't use imap. Any suggestions??? Bye. xxxxxx ////// xx xx ( o o ) xx xx /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ xxxx | From: Iztok Polanic | xx xx | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | xx xx | WWW: http://kotzi.home.ml.org | xx xx \-----------------------------------------/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA01361 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA01812; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:38:30 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA27234; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:36:05 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA24550 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:34:28 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA01480 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:34:27 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id MAA13341 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:34:25 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA15769; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 14:34:18 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 14:34:18 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pico: long line wrapping and truncation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The last version of Pico that I used came with Pine 3.96. The new version with Pine 4.00 is improved, even more improved than the FAQ indicates. The last version of Pico would wrap lines that were more than 255 characters long, even when wrap was turned of (using the -w command-line argument). The FAQ at http://www.washington.edu/pine/changes/3.96-to-4.00.html states that moving from 3.96 to 4.00... "Pico 255 character line length limit: wrap instead of truncate" Actually, I just turned off wrap and brought in a line that was thousands of characters long, and Pico didn't wrap it at 255, it kept the full long line intact. Hallelujah! Mike ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 01:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA20977 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 01:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA13944; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 01:04:42 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA14793; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 01:02:04 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id AAA17514 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 00:02:16 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id AAA22003 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 00:02:15 -0700 Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id XAA13183; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 23:57:02 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA07539; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 23:56:44 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA24402 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 23:46:00 -0700 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id XAA21466 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 23:45:59 -0700 Received: from D-140-142-189-195.dhcp.washington.edu (D-140-142-189-195.dhcp.washington.edu [140.142.189.195]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id XAA09498; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 23:45:58 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 23:44:59 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Attention: Please update your imapd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset = US-ASCII X-Sender: PINE-ANNOUNCE-owner@u.washington.edu X-To: pine-announce@u.washington.edu X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Just after Pine 4.00 was released, we were made aware of a security problem with the imapd server that is included in the Pine 4.00 distribution. This will be fixed in the Pine 4.01 maintenance release, but in the mean time, if you are using the UW IMAP server, please update it with the following distribution: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.tar.Z We don't have new imapd binaries available yet. Pine itself is not affected. -teg ------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html ------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 02:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA12320 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 02:22:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA14870; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 02:21:56 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA25415; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 02:18:41 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA58374 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 02:16:30 -0700 Received: from aero.iisc.ernet.in (niraj@aero.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.73.100]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA14559 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 02:16:25 -0700 Received: from localhost (niraj@localhost) by aero.iisc.ernet.in (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA29827 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 14:46:22 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 14:46:22 +0530 (IST) Reply-To: niraj@aero.iisc.ernet.in Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Niraj Sachdeva To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Trouble with imap on linux In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello I had earlier posted a problem that i faced trying to access my mail on a Linux machine from anyother machine, using pine4.0 and imap4.0. i have now compile imap-4.1-FINAL and that fails too... both of them just keep asking my for my passwd and this process repeats itself till it login fails. It then gives me that error that Authentication failed. please help me. thanks in advance. niraj \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // (/ @ @ /) ----------------------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo------------------------------- | Niraj Sachdeva E-mail: | | Research Scholar niraj@aero.iisc.ernet.in | | Department of Aerospace Engineering | | Indian Institute of Science | | Bangalore 560 012 Tel.(off) +91 (0) 80 309 2754 | | INDIA Tel.(res) +91 (0) 80 348 8666 | | | | WWW: http://aero.iisc.ernet.in/~niraj/home.html | | WWW: http://asterix.aero.iisc.ernet.in/~niraj/home.html | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 17:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA17787 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 17:04:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA24470; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 17:04:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA26988; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 17:02:40 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA78184 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 16:59:34 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA27739 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 16:59:33 -0700 Received: from sh.diac.com (shell.diac.com [209.64.40.12]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA06383 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 16:59:30 -0700 Received: from localhost (ekwall2@localhost) by sh.diac.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA04648 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 17:56:14 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 17:56:14 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Ekwall To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Question (ID KX7LX) In-Reply-To: <199807112342.QAA04730@lists5.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Authentication-Warning: sh.diac.com: ekwall2 owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 11 Jul 1998, University of Washington ListProcessor wrote: -snip- End-user questions about Pine should be directed to the newsgroup comp.mail.pine rather than the mailing list. --------------------------------------------- Is this here? or comp.mail.pine@u.washington.edu ekwall2@diac.com: You are not subscribed to pine-info@u.washington.edu. --------------------------------------------- snip Hi all, :) Is there a FAQ or archive of past questions? Got it! Thanks. pine-info. Newbie here, and have read all of the help files locally for Pine 3.96 QUESTION: I have a list of people in my address book, in a distribution listing, IS THERE A QUICK WAY TO TURN OFF THE "TO:" so that each reciepient doesn't get flooded with the 30-50 other TO: listers names? ------------------- Hope this makes sense.. Rather than have screen-fulls of TO:names@domains etc, in the header of each e-mail, I would think one could just have TO: or CC: "Entire X group, Full list NOT DISCLOSED" then message somehow. How? Thanks in advance. -=se=- steve ekwall ekwall2@diac.com If "Lcc" is part of the answer, I only get a CC: in my forward to header, how does one turn on Lcc?? ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA22382 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA26414; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:10:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA15736; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:10:10 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA87412 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:08:13 -0700 Received: from fluke.com (mail.fluke.com [206.138.179.7]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA16730 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:08:13 -0700 Received: by gateway2.fluke.com id <27794>; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:04:01 -0700 Message-Id: <98Jul11.200401pdt.27794@gateway2.fluke.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:08:03 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David Dyck To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: bug/enhancement request in PINE 4.00 w.r.t. compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am just trying PINE 4.00, and I would like to suggest that the following is a bug. after enabling the feature [X] compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs I typed in fred2 into the To: field and got the following error: [ To field: Address for "fred2" not in addressbook ] Since this used to do what I wanted I disabled the feature, and typed in the fred2 again. This time it expanded to the full user name To : Fred Moore I have multiple address books, so when I type ^T I get a menu PERSONAL Personal AddressBook in .addressbook ECS Personal AddressBook in /apps/general/lib/email/ecs_wbook and one of them I inherited from our IT folks to support people that are using ECS mail. When I search for fred2 in the ECS book I find igc# Moore, Fred fred2@tc.fluke.com Since fred2 does get expanded from an address book to Fred Moore it would be nice to see it work the same when the compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs feature is enabled I can see that the definition/help file for this feature indicates that the unqualified name must match a nickname, but perhaps you could also allow it to search the address book for the user-name@user-domain, (my user-domain is set to "tc.fluke.com") Would this break the intend of the compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs, since the user-name that I desired was in one of my address books? I acknowledge that I could write a tool to 'fix' the ECS address book, to change the nicknames to not be the machine generated garbage the IT needed to use to allow for the general case, but setting the nickname to the user name when there was no conflict, but it just seemed that since the users full name was in my address book and it did get expanded correctly when the compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs feature was disabled I expected it to still work. I'm not asking for this to work when the user name gets expanded because it was in a password file, just when it is found in the address book. Thanks for your thoughts.... David Dyck ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 02:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA28113 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 02:43:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA00506; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 02:43:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA16715; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 02:43:07 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA57946 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 02:40:38 -0700 Received: from thales.math.auth.gr (root@thales.math.auth.gr [155.207.114.61]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA12708 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 02:40:36 -0700 Received: from math.auth.gr (root@thales.math.auth.gr [155.207.114.61]) by thales.math.auth.gr (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA11704 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:44:53 +0300 Message-Id: <35A88447.4008DECD@math.auth.gr> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:39:19 +0300 Reply-To: jpis@math.auth.gr Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Giannis Pistikopoulos To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: help with .lock files on Linux! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello and greetings from Greece, I have compiled Pine 4.0 for a Linux system and I have the following problem: When I run it it tries to create the .lock file in the /var/spool/mail directory but it has no access there and I don't think it would be a great idea to give write access to everyone in that directory. So it gives me a warning that the inbox is vulnerable etc. etc. because it couldn't create the .lock file. Also, I get an e-mail from mailer-deamon, when I issue the frm command I get this: Mail System Internal Data DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA This happens everytime I try to run Pine 4.0 so I still use an older version. What I would like to know is how can anyone tell pine to create its .lock files in another directory such as the /tmp directory where it will have no problems. I searched every page I could find, found a lot of info on .lock files but I was unable to find a way to tell pine where to store those files. Thanx a lot for any help! Giannis Pistikopoulos Student of Applied Mathematics jpis@math.auth.gr http://www.math.auth.gr/~jpis ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:34:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA29071 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:34:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id DAA13048; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:34:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA23128; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:33:27 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA44144 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:31:37 -0700 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id DAA17210 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:31:36 -0700 Received: from alpha.computers.org (ssdipola@slip139-92-33-249.lju.si.ibm.net [139.92.33.249]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA129422; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 10:31:28 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:32:57 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Iztok Polanic To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: help with .lock files on Linux! In-Reply-To: <35A88447.4008DECD@math.auth.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Giannis Pistikopoulos X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ssdipola@alpha.computers.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 12 Jul 1998, Giannis Pistikopoulos wrote: > When I run it it tries to create the .lock file in the /var/spool/mail > directory > but it has no access there and I don't think it would be a great idea to > give > write access to everyone in that directory. So it gives me a warning > that the > inbox is vulnerable etc. etc. because it couldn't create the .lock file. > I'm having the same problem as you. As you already told, this can only be fixed that you add your user to mail group or enable write permission for everyone. > > I searched every page I could find, found a lot of info on .lock files > but I was > unable to find a way to tell pine where to store those files. > Thanx a lot for any help! > This is also a bad feature of Pine 4.00 IMHO and annoying. There are some great features, but some are really buggy (lock file, "don't delete this mail etc.") So my best answer to your question would be to uninstall Pine 4.00 and install Pine 3.96 (or any version you prefer), because we have to wait that all these problems would be fixed in 4.05 (I can just hope). xxxxxx ////// xx xx ( o o ) xx xx /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ xxxx | From: Iztok Polanic | xx xx | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | xx xx | WWW: http://kotzi.home.ml.org | xx xx | http://www.intering.si | \-----------------------------------------/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 04:02:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA29548 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 04:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id EAA01398; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 04:02:41 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA17467; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 04:02:13 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA78324 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 04:00:16 -0700 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id EAA29437 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 04:00:16 -0700 Received: from alpha.computers.org (slip139-92-33-249.lju.si.ibm.net [139.92.33.249]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA67596 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 10:59:43 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:00:01 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Iztok Polanic To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: new feature MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ssdipola@alpha.computers.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello !!! I've searched the Pine 4.00 features, but I didn't found anything about compressing mail folders (saved-messages etc.) Will be this included in new version of pine??? Tnx! Bye. xxxxxx ////// xx xx ( o o ) xx xx /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ xxxx | From: Iztok Polanic | xx xx | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | xx xx | WWW: http://kotzi.home.ml.org | xx xx | http://www.intering.si | \-----------------------------------------/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA01527 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA19401; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:07:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA24476; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:06:19 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA55882 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:04:18 -0700 Received: from jasmin.beyond-the-illusion.com (root@jasmin.beyond-the-illusion.com [206.30.146.193]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA27194 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:04:16 -0700 Received: from jasmin.beyond-the-illusion.com (jkinsley@jasmin.beyond-the-illusion.com [206.30.146.193]) by jasmin.beyond-the-illusion.com (8.9.0/bticc-5.0) with SMTP id QAA22100 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:04:14 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:04:11 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: J Kinsley To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: news and pine 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Last night I upgraded from pine 3.96 to pine 4.00, and now I can not read/access any of the news groups I am active on which are in my /~.newsrc file. I run my own news server (INN-2.0), with a small selection of newsgroups. I have been unable to access it by any means using pine 4.00. Could someone please tell me how to restore my news folder to the way it was setup in pine 3.96. Regards, Jarrod Kinsley -- "J Kinsley" *********************************************************************** ** On a planet that increasingly resembles one huge Maximum *** ** Security Prison, the only intelligent [and logical] choice is to *** ** plan a Jail Break -- Robert Anton Wilson (Cosmic Trigger II) *** *********************************************************************** [IX] >> (([I]+[II])+>([VI]+[XIV]+[XI])+>([V]+[XXI])) => (I=II+V) >>> IX ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:06:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA25293 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA07800; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:06:50 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA03680; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:05:55 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA19686 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:04:11 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA14957 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:04:11 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA07765 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:04:08 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA17264; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:03:58 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:03:58 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: alphabetization in address book MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN It was dissapointing to add an address to my address book and see that it was stuck into the list at essentially a random point. A section of the address book is shown here: bgaserv BGA Network listserv Majordomo@bga.org bgnews BGNews bgnews@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu michelle Niemeyer, Michelle psymn@showme.missouri.edu ziggy Bialzik, Ziggy zigzag@macc.wisc.edu laurabie Bierut, Laura laura@newhar.wustl.edu The names beginning with B were already there in proper alphabetical order, but I added Niemeyer, Michelle, and she was shoved into the Bs instead of the Ns. The rest of the list is alphabetized by "full name", so why not the new entry? I tried quitting and restarting and it's still there. I think that qualifies as a bug, unless there is some new option I have to set. Regards, Mike Michael B. Miller, M.S., Ph.D., M.P.E. Department of Psychology 210 McAlester Hall University of Missouri--Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 Phone: (573) 882-5671 Fax: (573) 882-7710 e-mail: mbmiller@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu web: http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA02585 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA20091; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:13:27 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA28190; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:12:23 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA27688 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:10:47 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA04571 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:10:46 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA07845 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:10:44 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA17268; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:10:34 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:10:33 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: FOLDER INTERNAL DATA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Why does the new version of Pine add a message like the following to the beginning of every folder? (I added the '>'s along the left so as not to confuse your mailer.) >From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jul 12 12:28:57 1998 >Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:28:57 -0500 (CDT) >From: Mail System Internal Data >Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA >X-IMAP: 0900019774 0000000063 >Status: RO > >This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not >a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. >If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created >with the data reset to initial values. What will happen if I do delete it? What is it doing? It sounds so dangerous and it looks so useless. I know that it changes every time I make a change to a folder. I find it very unappealing. Do I need to have this? It makes it so that everytime I login, my computer reports "you have mail" even when this invisible (in Pine) message is the only one I have. So I hope it's doing something I really want. If I go in and edit some part of the folder using some kind of editor, will that make for some conflict of the folder with its lead message? Will it cause problems? Scared in Missouri, :-) Mike Michael B. Miller, M.S., Ph.D., M.P.E. Department of Psychology 210 McAlester Hall University of Missouri--Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 Phone: (573) 882-5671 Fax: (573) 882-7710 e-mail: mbmiller@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu web: http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:13:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA03529 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:13:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA21496; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:13:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA21047; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:12:57 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA82272 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:11:30 -0700 Received: from news.mtu.edu (root@news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA05160 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:11:29 -0700 Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25669; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:11:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rock.me.mtu.edu (root@rock.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.31]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA23098; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:11:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hanky.me.mtu.edu (hanky.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.130]) by rock.me.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/mturelay-1.2) with SMTP id TAA06416; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:11:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:10:44 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edan Idzerda To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: FOLDER INTERNAL DATA In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Miller X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: edan@hanky.me.mtu.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 12 Jul 1998, Mike Miller wrote: > Why does the new version of Pine add a message like the following to the > beginning of every folder? (I added the '>'s along the left so as not to > confuse your mailer.) > > >From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jul 12 12:28:57 1998 > >Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:28:57 -0500 (CDT) > >From: Mail System Internal Data > >Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA > >X-IMAP: 0900019774 0000000063 > >Status: RO I can't give you a definitive answer, but I can tell you a little. I first saw the above message when I was playing with the UW IMAP server a few months ago. And given the X-IMAP header, it seems pretty obvious that they are related. I believe (since I haven't examined the c-client code much) that this is part of how Pine can set the Answered flaged on postponed messages. If you were to look at your mailbox now, you'd note that Pine has started adding a couple more headers to all of your messages. One of them is an X-UID header, which I assume Pine uses to find the message you were originally replying to. My guess is that the X-IMAP header in the message you've quoted contains X-IMAP: 0900019774 0000000063 ---------- ---------- a timestamp | | | a msg uid number --------| I would guess the timestamp had something to do with the last modification time on the folder, and the UID is the last message UID given out. For instance, in my mailbox the second number is 380 and the last message has X-UID: 380 ... coincidence? I think not :) I don't know what else it's used for. I would guess that if you deleted at most you might find it annoying--pine4 would recreate it, and any information you would have lost would likely only be "annoying" and not serious :) I hope this helped, somewhat. - edan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:48:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA04936 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA23876; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:48:50 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA10931; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:47:53 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA17424 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:46:29 -0700 Received: from mailjay.creighton.edu (mailjay.creighton.edu [147.134.2.126]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA28195 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:46:28 -0700 Received: from bluejay.creighton.edu by mailjay.creighton.edu with SMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA217857985; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 21:46:26 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 21:46:25 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: dayoung@creighton.edu To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: FOLDER INTERNAL DATA In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Edan Idzerda X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm going away for a month. How do I get off the forum so that my mailbox doesn't over flow? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 22:15:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA06196 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 22:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA13361; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 22:15:37 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA09070; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 22:13:47 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA59812 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 22:12:14 -0700 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA20862 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 22:12:13 -0700 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA01292 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:12:14 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:12:14 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: "Adam H. Kerman" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: postponing messages from pine-info (was: FOLDER INTERNAL DATA) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 21:46:25 -0500 (CDT) >Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu >From: dayoung@creighton.edu >X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >I'm going away for a month. How do I get off the forum so that my mailbox >doesn't over flow? The wrong way is to post an off-topic message like this and annoy everyone on the list. You didn't even bother to change the Subject! The right way is to take a look at the headers and figure out which list server is used. As you can see, it's ListProc. So, send a command to listproc@u.washington.edu. Don't know what the commands are? Send a help command. Commands are sent in the BODY of a message, only one per line left justified. Delete your .sig. Leave the Subject blank. The command is set pine-info mail postpone To resume set pine-info mail To learn about the set command help set See the Sender in the headers? That's the address of a person. If you have trouble, contact the list owner at that address. Never post questions like this to this or any other mailing list. ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:17:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA07236 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:17:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id AAA26771; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:17:36 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id AAA01669; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:16:45 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id AAA39894 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:15:13 -0700 Received: from corellia.piett.com (piett@h67.ryd.student.liu.se [130.236.239.67]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id AAA22388 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:15:12 -0700 Received: from localhost (piett@localhost) by corellia.piett.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA04620 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:15:10 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:15:10 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Henrik Edlund To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Argh... Gettint rid of the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Mailing List X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have searched the docs and the Pine online help and looked in the config. I can't find any option to turn off this devil's invention "FOLDER INTERTAL DATA". It's screwing up all my other mail applications. Why must Pine 4.00 do this. I thought that when I upgraded I would get a better product. Now it looks like I have to go back to 3.96... Can anyone enlighten me if I missed anything... Please!!! -- Henrik Edlund http://www.piett.com/ "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Naturally they became heroes." Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 02:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA09052 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 02:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA28005; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 02:07:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA03046; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 02:06:50 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA58392 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 02:05:22 -0700 Received: from plato.physik.uni-konstanz.de (flo@plato.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.147.28]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA10026 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 02:05:21 -0700 Received: from localhost (flo@localhost) by plato.physik.uni-konstanz.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA26029 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:05:19 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:05:18 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: Florian Kolbe Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Florian Kolbe To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: FOLDER INTERNAL DATA In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 12 Jul 1998, Mike Miller wrote: MM> Why does the new version of Pine add a message like the following to the MM> beginning of every folder? (I added the '>'s along the left so as not to MM> confuse your mailer.) MM> MM> >From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jul 12 12:28:57 1998 MM> >Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:28:57 -0500 (CDT) MM> >From: Mail System Internal Data MM> >Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA MM> >X-IMAP: 0900019774 0000000063 MM> >Status: RO MM> > MM> >This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not MM> >a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. MM> >If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created MM> >with the data reset to initial values. And if cat two folders together, what happens? Now the second 'pseudo'-mail DOES show up in pine. Which one does pine use? Can I delete the second one? What should be the policy on the second one? Should pine delete it automatically? Should pine tell me I have a 'corrupt' folder? (sigh) Florian ############################################################################ # Florian Kolbe - Florian.Kolbe@uni-konstanz.de # # Uni Konstanz, P1003, Tel. 88-3859 # ############################################################################ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 04:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA11087 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 04:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id EAA29211; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 04:01:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA04491; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 04:00:18 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA56058 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 03:58:23 -0700 Received: from rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl (root@rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl [148.81.15.15]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id DAA12633 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 03:58:17 -0700 Received: from qrnik.knm.org.pl (root@ppp4-73.warszawa.tpnet.pl [195.205.246.73]) by rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA01182 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:57:43 +0200 Received: from qrnik.knm.org.pl (qrczak@qrnik.knm.org.pl [127.0.0.1]) by qrnik.knm.org.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA26542 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:58:17 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:58:14 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: More bugs in pine 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN 1. Pine sometimes splits References line in the middle of Message-ID! Example: References: <359C917D.69FC@orient.uw.edu.pl> <359CE0F0.4E61@orient.uw.edu.pl> <6o31tl$iv0$4@kerigma.cyf.gov.pl> 2. Pine makes a link from a simple word "www" or "wwww", which obviously can't be a web address. 3. The option enable-exit-via-lessthan-command seems to be ignored. 4. Pine no longer shows "to: name.of.a.newsgroup" instead of "My Name". It works only for emails. Anyway, this useful behavior is often confusing for beginners. I think it might be better documented? Or, as they generally don't read the documentation (asking on news:*.linux instead), maybe it could be a switchable option, off by default. 5. Subjects in a newsgroup seem to be sorted before MIME-unescaping (at least with OrderedSubj sort), putting =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Something?= far away from Something. -- __("< Marcin Kowalczyk * qrczak@knm.org.pl http://qrczak.home.ml.org/ \__/ GCS/M d- s+:-- a21 C+++>+++$ UL++>++++$ P+++ L++>++++$ E->++ ^^ W++ N+++ o? K? w(---) O? M- V? PS-- PE++ Y? PGP->+ t QRCZAK 5? X- R tv-- b+>++ DI D- G+ e>++++ h! r--%>++ y- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA12543 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA18756; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:03:36 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA14561; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:01:56 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA86768 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:00:24 -0700 Received: from mailhost.unifiedtech.com (paulaner.unifiedtech.com [205.219.167.102]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id GAA03343 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:00:23 -0700 Received: from unifiedtech.com by mailhost.unifiedtech.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA09881; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:59:35 -0400 Message-Id: <35AA04B6.B4655ABE@unifiedtech.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:59:34 -0400 Reply-To: Paul.Kraus@unifiedtech.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paul Kraus To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: help with .lock files on Linux! References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: pfk@unifiedtech.com X-To: Iztok Polanic X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Iztok Polanic wrote: > > On Sun, 12 Jul 1998, Giannis Pistikopoulos wrote: > > > When I run it it tries to create the .lock file in the /var/spool/mail > > directory > > but it has no access there and I don't think it would be a great idea to > > give > > write access to everyone in that directory. So it gives me a warning > > that the > > inbox is vulnerable etc. etc. because it couldn't create the .lock file. > > > > I'm having the same problem as you. As you already told, this can only be > fixed that you add your user to mail group or enable write permission for > everyone. Have you tried making the pine executable SGID (set GID) mail ? This would allow the pine program to write to /var/spool/mail, but not the user separate from pine. -- -------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------| Paul Kraus email Paul.Kraus@unifiedtech.com IT Engineering voice +1 518 283 1003 ext. 2778 UNIFIED Technologies fax +1 518 283 1189 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA07499 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA00929; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:10:49 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA21275; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:09:07 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA86980 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:07:49 -0700 Received: from mailhost.unifiedtech.com (paulaner.unifiedtech.com [205.219.167.102]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id GAA07872 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:07:49 -0700 Received: from unifiedtech.com by mailhost.unifiedtech.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA09991; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:07:24 -0400 Message-Id: <35AA068B.A676DC07@unifiedtech.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:07:23 -0400 Reply-To: Paul.Kraus@unifiedtech.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paul Kraus To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: FOLDER INTERNAL DATA References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: pfk@unifiedtech.com X-To: Florian Kolbe X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Florian Kolbe wrote: > > On Sun, 12 Jul 1998, Mike Miller wrote: > > MM> Why does the new version of Pine add a message like the following to the > MM> beginning of every folder? (I added the '>'s along the left so as not to > MM> confuse your mailer.) > MM> > MM> >From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jul 12 12:28:57 1998 > MM> >Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:28:57 -0500 (CDT) > MM> >From: Mail System Internal Data > MM> >Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA > MM> >X-IMAP: 0900019774 0000000063 > MM> >Status: RO > MM> > > MM> >This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not > MM> >a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. > MM> >If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created > MM> >with the data reset to initial values. > > And if cat two folders together, what happens? Now the second 'pseudo'-mail > DOES show up in pine. Which one does pine use? Can I delete the second one? > What should be the policy on the second one? Should pine delete it automatically? > Should pine tell me I have a 'corrupt' folder? I have been using the Sun IMAP server for months, accessing it with both Pine (3.96) and Netscape Messenger. The IMAP server creates these entries for internal housekeeping, and does not appear to serve them out to the mail client. I have deleted them as well as concatenated multiple files (folders) together without any ill effects (except perhaps a small performance hit as the IMAP server re-generates them). If these entries are being generated in LOCAL mail spool files, I suggest that Pine 4.0 is using IMAP internally to access these files. (just my guess based on observations and comments made to this list). I was actually planning on adopting Pine 4.0, but have not had the time yet. -- -------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------| Paul Kraus email Paul.Kraus@unifiedtech.com IT Engineering voice +1 518 283 1003 ext. 2778 UNIFIED Technologies fax +1 518 283 1189 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA13941 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:22:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA19023; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:22:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA21736; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:21:38 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA44074 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:20:20 -0700 Received: from corellia.piett.com (piett@h67.ryd.student.liu.se [130.236.239.67]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA04464 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:20:19 -0700 Received: from localhost (piett@localhost) by corellia.piett.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA06667; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:20:11 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:20:11 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Henrik Edlund To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: FOLDER INTERNAL DATA In-Reply-To: <35AA068B.A676DC07@unifiedtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Paul Kraus X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Paul Kraus wrote: > If these entries are being generated in LOCAL mail spool files, I > suggest that Pine 4.0 is using IMAP internally to access these files. > (just my guess based on observations and comments made to this list). Question is now: How do I turn of this unwanted "feature". -- Henrik Edlund http://www.piett.com/ "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Naturally they became heroes." Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA06917 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA19138; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:32:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA17112; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:30:13 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA71874 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:28:57 -0700 Received: from trixie.mse.jhu.edu (trixie.mse.jhu.edu [128.220.8.14]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA09032 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:28:56 -0700 Received: from pembroke.mse.jhu.edu ([128.220.8.107]) by trixie.mse.jhu.edu with SMTP id <39193-696>; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:28:51 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:22:47 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Tim DiLauro To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Argh... Gettint rid of the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: timmo@skeeter.pembroke.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Henrik Edlund wrote: > I have searched the docs and the Pine online help and looked in the > config. I can't find any option to turn off this devil's invention "FOLDER > INTERTAL DATA". It's screwing up all my other mail applications. Why must > Pine 4.00 do this. I thought that when I upgraded I would get a better > product. Now it looks like I have to go back to 3.96... > Can anyone enlighten me if I missed anything... Please!!! Can you be more specific? Why does it trouble you so? Can't your other applications ignore it? Which applications are having problems? -timmo -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim DiLauro Milton S. Eisenhower Library Library Systems Jack Johns Hopkins University (410) 516-5263 3400 N. Charles Street timmo@jhu.edu Baltimore, MD 21218 ------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:45:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA14152 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:45:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA19310; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:45:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA22611; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:43:47 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA24610 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:42:30 -0700 Received: from gatekeeper.triple-p.nl (gatekeeper.triple-p.nl [192.92.134.66]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA09830 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:42:28 -0700 Received: (from ftp@localhost) by gatekeeper.triple-p.nl (8.7.6/8.7.3) id PAA00721; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:40:40 +0100 (WET DST) Received: from ciint.ciint.nl(194.178.100.1) by gatekeeper.triple-p.nl via smap (V1.3) id sma000687; Mon Jul 13 15:40:27 1998 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa27239; 13 Jul 98 15:41 WST Received: from localhost by pulsar.ciint.nl id aa01830; 13 Jul 98 15:42 WST Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:42:10 +0200 (WST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Richard Gering To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: help with .lock files on Linux! In-Reply-To: <35AA04B6.B4655ABE@unifiedtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Paul Kraus X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Paul Kraus wrote: > Have you tried making the pine executable SGID (set GID) mail ? This > would allow the pine program to write to /var/spool/mail, but not the > user separate from pine. This could indeed work, but... the user could technically do a shell escape from Pine and delete other people's mail, something you would not be able to do when the directory permissions are set to 1777. A public writable directory with the sticky bit on REALLY isn't as bad as some people think! By the way, switching back to Pine 3.96 or earlier does NOT help, since these releases require the same semantics to work properly. The only difference is that they don't show you the error message, something you can resemble in Pine 4.00 by enabling quell-lock-failure-warnings in the configuration setup. Be warned, though, that you're living dangerously if you do. But if you lived happily that way in Pine 3.96... Regards, - Richard. -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | If all else fails, read the manual... | | Computer Industries International | | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA12139 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA01523; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:53:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA17877; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:51:50 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA16376 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:50:37 -0700 Received: from corellia.piett.com (piett@h67.ryd.student.liu.se [130.236.239.67]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA06329 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:50:36 -0700 Received: from localhost (piett@localhost) by corellia.piett.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA06913; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:50:21 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:50:21 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Henrik Edlund To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Argh... Gettint rid of the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Tim DiLauro X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Tim DiLauro wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Henrik Edlund wrote: > > > I have searched the docs and the Pine online help and looked in the > > config. I can't find any option to turn off this devil's invention "FOLDER > > INTERTAL DATA". It's screwing up all my other mail applications. Why must > > Pine 4.00 do this. I thought that when I upgraded I would get a better > > product. Now it looks like I have to go back to 3.96... > > Can anyone enlighten me if I missed anything... Please!!! > > Can you be more specific? > > Why does it trouble you so? Can't your other applications ignore it? No. > Which applications are having problems? wmmail, BitchX, asmail, and all other programs that tells you if you got mail. These now tell me that I got one mail. Ok I can ignore it, but it's annoying when I don't want it. I want to see the "No Mail" icon instead of the spinning letter. Also BitchX (IRC client) tells me that I got one unread mail waiting all the time. I don't think I want to patch all these program just because Pine insist on having that stupid INTERNAL DATA. -- Henrik Edlund http://www.piett.com/ "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Naturally they became heroes." Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA08854 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA02392; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:43:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA10351; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:41:46 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA86834 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:40:25 -0700 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA23783 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:40:24 -0700 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA07233 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:40:26 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:40:26 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Argh... Gettint rid of the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Henrik Edlund >Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:15:10 +0200 (CEST) >I can't find any option to turn off this devil's invention "FOLDER INTERTAL >DATA". It's screwing up all my other mail applications. There's been a ton of discussion on comp.mail.pine and in the mailing list since the new version was released. Just read the messages for information. I don't believe you that it's screwing up other mail applications, given that it's formatted like an ordinary mail message. Can you demonstrate this? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:52:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA09373 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA02580; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:51:59 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA25063; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:50:16 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA19490 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:49:00 -0700 Received: from corellia.piett.com (piett@h67.ryd.student.liu.se [130.236.239.67]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA14896 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:48:58 -0700 Received: from localhost (piett@localhost) by corellia.piett.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA07431; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:48:39 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:48:39 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Henrik Edlund To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Argh... Gettint rid of the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Adam H. Kerman" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > There's been a ton of discussion on comp.mail.pine and in the mailing list since > the new version was released. Just read the messages for information. I have no news access. > I don't believe you that it's screwing up other mail applications, given that > it's formatted like an ordinary mail message. Can you demonstrate this? They are reporting I have 1 mail when I have none! -- Henrik Edlund http://www.piett.com/ "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Naturally they became heroes." Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA15546 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA21328; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:30:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA13694; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:29:34 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA24670 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:28:14 -0700 Received: from out5.ibm.net (out5.ibm.net [165.87.194.243]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA11756 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:28:14 -0700 Received: from alpha.computers.org (ssdipola@slip139-92-33-59.lju.si.ibm.net [139.92.33.59]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA32898; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:28:03 GMT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:29:33 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Iztok Polanic To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: help with .lock files on Linux! In-Reply-To: <35AA04B6.B4655ABE@unifiedtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Paul Kraus X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ssdipola@alpha.computers.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Paul Kraus wrote: > Have you tried making the pine executable SGID (set GID) mail ? This > would allow the pine program to write to /var/spool/mail, but not the > user separate from pine. > This is an old "trick", but it is very vulnerable AFAIK! IMHO this shouldn't be happening!!!! Bye. xxxxxx ////// xx xx ( o o ) xx xx /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ xxxx | From: Iztok Polanic | xx xx | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | xx xx | WWW: http://kotzi.home.ml.org | xx xx | http://www.intering.si | \-----------------------------------------/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA16562 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA05305; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:30:47 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA24065; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:21:58 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA21052 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:20:37 -0700 Received: from su1236.Mathematik.Uni-Marburg.DE (su1236.Mathematik.Uni-Marburg.DE [137.248.122.100]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA24239 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:20:35 -0700 Received: from thuban (thuban [137.248.121.15]) by su1236.Mathematik.Uni-Marburg.DE (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA00975 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 18:20:30 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 18:20:28 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Sebastian Benoit To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: "you have mail" message at login MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: benoit@thuban X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN pine 4 uses a Mail "DONT DELETE THIS..." in the Inbox. unfortunatly this means that a user will get the message "you have mail" when loging in. Right now I want to expand the relevant login-script to check not only for mail, but if there is mail check if the last (and only) mail in the inbox is the pine-info-mail and then print out a message ... Does anyone know a better solution ? Has someone written something like that ? (I have searched the list archives but found nothing on this subject) Please mail answers to me, I will post a summary. Thanks, Sebastian Benoit -------------------------------------------------------------------------- This email is restricted from being used for the design or development of nuclear, chemical, biological, weapons or missile technology without the prior permission of the U.S. Government. - Sebastian Benoit - benoit@mathematik.uni-marburg.de - http://www.mathematik.uni-marburg.de/~benoit ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA17533 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA24229; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:14:34 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA01578; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:10:16 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA16286 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:25:43 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA01744 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:25:42 -0700 Received: from jasper.somtel.com (darren@jasper.somtel.com [206.139.114.254]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA05167 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:25:39 -0700 Received: from localhost (darren@localhost) by jasper.somtel.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA26110 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:25:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:25:34 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Darren Henderson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine 4.0 & FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN There is a problem with the FreeBSD version of pico. ffclose causes the errore message "Error preparing to close file: Invalid arguement" to be displayed frequently. I notice on usenet others are reporting the same problem under BSDi. One person has posted a patch for this but it seems to me that it is just commenting out the if statement that generates the message which would not seem to be a completely wise thing to do. If no one has found a solution to this I guess the only thing to do is to fall back to 3.96. On another topic, the documentation should be beefed up a bit in regards to proper access perms for the mail spool directory and specifically to FreeBSD a note should be made about the libpico.so.1.3 file needing to be moved inot a system lib directory. ______________________________________________________________________ Darren Henderson darren@jasper.somtel.com Help fight junk e-mail, visit http://www.cauce.org/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA17705 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:38:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA24939; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:37:59 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA04229; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:37:12 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA36160 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:35:47 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA26272 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:35:46 -0700 Received: from localhost (hubert@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id KAA19652; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:35:42 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:35:42 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: alphabetization in address book In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Miller X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Mike, Try looking at the variable "addrbook-sort-rule" in the Setup/Config screen. If it is set to "dont-sort" that would explain it. Otherwise, we may have a bug of some sort. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Sun, 12 Jul 1998, Mike Miller wrote: > It was dissapointing to add an address to my address book and see that it > was stuck into the list at essentially a random point. A section of the > address book is shown here: > > bgaserv BGA Network listserv Majordomo@bga.org > bgnews BGNews bgnews@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu > michelle Niemeyer, Michelle psymn@showme.missouri.edu > ziggy Bialzik, Ziggy zigzag@macc.wisc.edu > laurabie Bierut, Laura laura@newhar.wustl.edu > > The names beginning with B were already there in proper alphabetical > order, but I added Niemeyer, Michelle, and she was shoved into the Bs > instead of the Ns. The rest of the list is alphabetized by "full name", > so why not the new entry? I tried quitting and restarting and it's still > there. > > I think that qualifies as a bug, unless there is some new option I have to > set. > > Regards, > > Mike > > Michael B. Miller, M.S., Ph.D., M.P.E. > Department of Psychology > 210 McAlester Hall > University of Missouri--Columbia > Columbia, MO 65211 > Phone: (573) 882-5671 > Fax: (573) 882-7710 > e-mail: mbmiller@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu > web: http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA19421 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:15:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA26109; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:15:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA01898; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:14:48 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA27764 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:13:25 -0700 Received: from trixie.mse.jhu.edu (trixie.mse.jhu.edu [128.220.8.14]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA14338 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:13:24 -0700 Received: from chimchim.mse.jhu.edu ([128.220.8.95]) by trixie.mse.jhu.edu with SMTP id <39193-692>; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:13:23 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:13:08 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Tim DiLauro To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Argh... Gettint rid of the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: timmo@racerx.mse.jhu.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Henrik Edlund wrote: > > I don't believe you that it's screwing up other mail applications, given that > > it's formatted like an ordinary mail message. Can you demonstrate this? > > They are reporting I have 1 mail when I have none! This, I believe, is a valid point. There are performance implications as well. I wonder why UW-IMAP doesn't use a separate companion file to track the info in that "INTERNAL DATA" mail message. The UW IMAP4 server versions that use this format are considerably slower when batch storing messages. I suspect (but definitely have NOT proven!) that the internal data rewriting is involved. Can anyone enlighten me/us on this? Thanks. -timmo -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim DiLauro Milton S. Eisenhower Library Library Systems Jack Johns Hopkins University (410) 516-5263 3400 N. Charles Street timmo@jhu.edu Baltimore, MD 21218 ------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA19348 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA26678; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:33:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA23055; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:32:55 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA26490 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:31:44 -0700 Received: from fluke.com (mail.fluke.com [206.138.179.7]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA00554 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:31:44 -0700 Received: by gateway2.fluke.com id <27799>; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:27:19 -0700 Message-Id: <98Jul13.112719pdt.27799@gateway2.fluke.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:31:31 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David Dyck To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Argh... Getting rid of the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thanks for pointing me to comp.mail.pine, I had forgotten about it. I have used pine for quite a while now, but it is not the only way I access my email. I don't like the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA message I could perhaps learn to live with it if the message were more descriptive. When I first encountered the message, I couldn't determine 'who' put it in my mailbox. I would like the message to include "This message placed in you inbox by Pine 4.00" as this would have helped me determine where the message was comming from. I would like the message to include a pointer to the technical documentation, a web page or some specification that stated in more detail why the header was there, and what would happen if it were deleted, and how it was being used... I would like to have this message documented in the technical documentation, as I couldn't find any reference to this user visable change anywhere in the technical documentation. I to would like to be able to turn of the message, or is pine itself using the data in the header - since the documention doesn't stated that it is used by pine, and it's off in the imap side of the sources, and I access my mailbox as a mailbox file over NFS, I couldn't determine in a few minutes if it was really required. after scanning comp.mail.pine I see a few people that state that the MUA shouldn't be accessing the spool file, but that is what I have been doing for ages, and have been successful without this cryptic message. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA10612 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA09537; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:47:34 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA02018; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:46:45 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA24764 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:45:24 -0700 Received: from mailhost.unifiedtech.com (paulaner.unifiedtech.com [205.219.167.102]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id LAA17920 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:45:23 -0700 Received: from unifiedtech.com by mailhost.unifiedtech.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA15679; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:45:16 -0400 Message-Id: <35AA55BD.A5AFA3A8@unifiedtech.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:45:17 -0400 Reply-To: Paul.Kraus@unifiedtech.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paul Kraus To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Argh... Getting rid of the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA References: <98Jul13.112719pdt.27799@gateway2.fluke.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: pfk@unifiedtech.com X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Just for comparison, here is what the Sun IMAP server puts at the head of our mail files : > From Mon Jul 13 14:39:22 1998 > Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:39:22 -0400 (EDT) > From: Postmaster > Subject: IMAP4 Server Data-DO NOT DELETE > Content-Length: 92 > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Status: RO > X-IMAP: 884285959 19382 > > This message is from the IMAP server. > VERY IMPORTANT Server DATA. > > > > > > > > > > > >--END+PSEUDO-- sims is Solstice Internet Mail Server (Sun's product name) I wonder if the X-IMAP information is transportable amoung IMAP servers ? I got this by head'ing my mail file. I use IMAP to access it so I never see thin in my mail client (the server never serves it out). -- -------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------| Paul Kraus email Paul.Kraus@unifiedtech.com IT Engineering voice +1 518 283 1003 ext. 2778 UNIFIED Technologies fax +1 518 283 1189 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:50:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA20096 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA09657; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:50:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA02177; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:49:45 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA24692 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:48:32 -0700 Received: from lionking.org (btman@blacker-99.caltech.edu [131.215.86.99]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA09927 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:48:31 -0700 Received: from localhost (btman@localhost) by lionking.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA15582 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:48:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:48:31 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Brian Tiemann To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Deleting attachments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: lionking.org: btman owned process doing -bs X-Sender: btman@lionking.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi... At some point during the beta cycle of 4.0, I asked whether a feature was in the works for deleting attachments from messages while keeping the messages themselves. The reason I'd love this feature is that sometimes people send me large files, accompanied by text, and I want to use the file and get it out of my inbox so it isn't so huge-- and yet be able to reply to the text later, at my leisure. I was assured that this feature was planned for 4.0, much to my pleasure. So, now it's out, and it seems that the "Delete attachment" feature only applies to saving the messages to other folders-- it doesn't do anything to delete the attachment out of the mail spool itself. This sort of ignores what I thought was the whole point of the feature. Is there a particular reason why it's being implemented this way? Is there the possibility that full deletion of attachments might be a part of a later release? Please don't take this as a complaint or a demand for more from a free software effort. :) I greatly appreciate the hard work that the pine developers have put into 4.00, and I applaud the ongoing project. Thanks! Brian ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA21216 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA28925; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:56:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA07464; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:55:34 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA75484 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:54:14 -0700 Received: from jasper.somtel.com (darren@jasper.somtel.com [206.139.114.254]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA25203 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:54:12 -0700 Received: from localhost (darren@localhost) by jasper.somtel.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA26423 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:54:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:54:04 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Darren Henderson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Argh... Getting rid of the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA In-Reply-To: <98Jul13.112719pdt.27799@gateway2.fluke.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, David Dyck wrote: > after scanning comp.mail.pine I see a few people that state > that the MUA shouldn't be accessing the spool file, but > that is what I have been doing for ages, and have been > successful without this cryptic message. I've seen those as well and can't fathom why they think that should be the case. Its a fallacy as far as I can tell. ______________________________________________________________________ Darren Henderson darren@jasper.somtel.com Help fight junk e-mail, visit http://www.cauce.org/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA22362 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA12435; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:23:22 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA13055; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:22:32 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA29650 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:21:14 -0700 Received: from sh.diac.com (shell.diac.com [209.64.40.12]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA12365 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:21:13 -0700 Received: from localhost (ekwall2@localhost) by sh.diac.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA14184 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:17:33 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:17:33 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Ekwall To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Argh... Gettint rid of the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sh.diac.com: ekwall2 owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Henrik Edlund wrote: On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Tim DiLauro wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Henrik Edlund wrote: > > > I have searched the docs and the Pine online help and looked in the > > config. I can't find any option to turn off this devil's invention "FOLDER > > INTERTAL DATA". It's screwing up all my other mail applications. Why must > > Pine 4.00 do this. I thought that when I upgraded I would get a better > > product. Now it looks like I have to go back to 3.96... > > Can anyone enlighten me if I missed anything... Please!!! > > Can you be more specific? > > Why does it trouble you so? Can't your other applications ignore it? No. > Which applications are having problems? wmmail, BitchX, asmail, and all other programs that tells you if you got mail. These now tell me that I got one mail. Ok I can ignore it, but it's annoying when I don't want it. I want to see the "No Mail" icon instead of the spinning letter. Also BitchX (IRC client) tells me that I got one unread mail waiting all the time. I don't think I want to patch all these program just because Pine insist on having that stupid INTERNAL DATA. ------------------------ I'm running 3.96, so I can't try this, but has anyone tired just V/reading the message and leaving it alone? (or even "A"nswer it) and not deleting it to stop your spinning letter? bandaid on a broken arm I know if it works just hopeful thinking i guess :) -=se=- ekwall2@diac.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:27:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA23873 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:27:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA14160; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:27:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA09894; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:26:47 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA29872 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:24:47 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA21928 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:24:47 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA18525; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:24:33 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:24:33 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: alphabetization in address book In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Steve Hubert X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Steve Hubert wrote: > Try looking at the variable "addrbook-sort-rule" in the Setup/Config > screen. If it is set to "dont-sort" that would explain it. Otherwise, we > may have a bug of some sort. I do have it set to sort by full names. In fact, all other entries are sorted by full name. So it's just the one I added. If it helps any, I added the addressbook entry using the "take" command. Regards, Mike From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:31:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA23926 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA14297; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:31:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA01371; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:29:59 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA17622 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:28:45 -0700 Received: from pilsener.ucs.ualberta.ca (pilsener.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.19]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA27694 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:28:40 -0700 Received: from gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.18]) by pilsener.ucs.ualberta.ca (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA25222 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:28:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (maldridg@localhost) by gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA42290 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:28:37 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:28:36 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Lea To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Argh... Gettint rid of the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Information List X-Sender: maldridg@gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Henrik Edlund wrote: > > I don't believe you that it's screwing up other mail applications, given that > > it's formatted like an ordinary mail message. Can you demonstrate this? > > They are reporting I have 1 mail when I have none! OK, this I believe, but it's a pain in the neck, not a screw-up. The following explanation is adapted from the one I send to users on a regular basis when they pose the same question in Helpdesk e-mail (we recently upgraded to IMAP on Pine3.96): "Pine has recently been set up to use IMAP protocol to access your INBOX. The IMAP server likes to have a "MAIL SYSTEM internal data file" in each users INBOX. When you use IMAP/pine you will not see this message displayed in your INBOX index listing. Even though you can't see it, your system will probably tell you about it - either with a 'You have new mail' message when your INBOX appears empty, or with a 'You have x messages' (which turns out to be x-1). Here at the U of A, the login process likes to check the /var/spool/mail file system to see if you have any mail. Because we have /var/spool/mail NFS mounted, you get told you have mail (ie. the MAIL SYSTEM internal data file). If you're using non-IMAPed e-mail software, like Eudora or Netscape, this message will continue to appear. It's not a real message, and when you delete it it's not really deleted - the non-IMAP software is simply able to see it, whereas if you open your e-mail in Pine (which is IMAPed), the message will not be visible." I hope the above is some help as far as explanation is concerned... Lea ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) http://www.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/tutor/Tutorials.html http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/Wiz/Wizard "And how are you?" said Winnie-the-Pooh. Eeyore shook his head from side to side. "Not very how," he said. "I don't seem to have felt at all how for a long time." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA25895 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA03842; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:54:43 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA14592; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:54:08 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA59790 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:52:15 -0700 Received: from jasper.somtel.com (darren@jasper.somtel.com [206.139.114.254]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA03993 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:52:11 -0700 Received: from localhost (darren@localhost) by jasper.somtel.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA26613 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 18:52:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 18:52:06 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Darren Henderson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Argh... Gettint rid of the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA (fwd) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Lea wrote: > I hope the above is some help as far as explanation is concerned... It explains it but it really doesn't justify it. Not that thats your job:) The imap daemon really should not be doing things like this with the inbox imo. By definition its for mail, data regarding mail should be kept else where. Many many users use multiple applications which interact with this file, its a bit arogent for pine's stuff to assume otherwise. If this is a defined, required part of imap than perhaps imap users should use a seperate mail spool directory and be made aware of this quirk. ______________________________________________________________________ Darren Henderson darren@jasper.somtel.com Help fight junk e-mail, visit http://www.cauce.org/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA26232 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA17256; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:23:27 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA20093; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:21:50 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA64926 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:19:49 -0700 Received: from corellia.piett.com (piett@h67.ryd.student.liu.se [130.236.239.67]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA06643 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:19:43 -0700 Received: from localhost (piett@localhost) by corellia.piett.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA03259; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 01:19:28 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 01:19:27 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Henrik Edlund To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Argh... Gettint rid of the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA (fwd) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Darren Henderson X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Darren Henderson wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Lea wrote: > > > I hope the above is some help as far as explanation is concerned... > > It explains it but it really doesn't justify it. Not that thats your job:) > > The imap daemon really should not be doing things like this with the inbox > imo. By definition its for mail, data regarding mail should be kept else > where. Many many users use multiple applications which interact with this > file, its a bit arogent for pine's stuff to assume otherwise. If this is a > defined, required part of imap than perhaps imap users should use a > seperate mail spool directory and be made aware of this quirk. Right! I been browsing the source tonight a bit trying to see if it's easy to get rid of this behavior. No luck yet finding it. If anyone has a patch that removes this feel free to send it my way. -- Henrik Edlund http://www.piett.com/ "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Naturally they became heroes." Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA26735 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:06:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA18401; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:06:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA21624; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:04:41 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA36338 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:03:12 -0700 Received: from news.mtu.edu (root@news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA10971 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:03:10 -0700 Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA18460; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 20:03:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rock.me.mtu.edu (root@rock.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.31]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA07942; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 20:03:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hanky.me.mtu.edu (hanky.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.130]) by rock.me.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/mturelay-1.2) with SMTP id UAA21349; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 20:03:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 20:02:23 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edan Idzerda To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: alphabetization in address book In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Miller X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: edan@hanky.me.mtu.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Mike Miller wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Steve Hubert wrote: > > > Try looking at the variable "addrbook-sort-rule" in the Setup/Config > > screen. If it is set to "dont-sort" that would explain it. Otherwise, we > > may have a bug of some sort. > > > I do have it set to sort by full names. In fact, all other entries are > sorted by full name. So it's just the one I added. > > If it helps any, I added the addressbook entry using the "take" command. I added "Miller, Mike" to my address book with the Take command, and it was added out-of-order. I changed addrbook-sort-rule to by nickname, then back to fullname, and the sort order was correct. Pine 4.00, Solaris 2.6 with gcc. With enable-vi-keys and composer-word-erase patches. ;) - edan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 02:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA00131 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 02:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA25877; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 02:29:57 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA00389; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 02:29:01 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA65012 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 02:25:38 -0700 Received: from starbreeze.knoware.nl (starbreeze.knoware.nl [195.64.36.7]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA15044 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 02:25:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (hugo@localhost) by starbreeze.knoware.nl (8.9.1/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id LAA10063 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:25:28 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:25:27 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Spark To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: preparing to close file: invalid argument MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello all, I have a (strange) problem with pine 4.00 on my BSDI 3.1 box. Whem i am editing a message every once in a while pine reports the error "preparing to close file: invalid argument" and it freezes for a few seconds. I can continue typing and sending messages.. The newsgroup didn't have any answers, so maybe the list has one? BTW somebody also had the problem on a BSDI 2.1 box according to his posting. Greetings and thanks for any replies, Hugo -------------------------------------------------------------- The issue is not wether you're paranoid, the issue is wether you're paranoid enough. -- Quote out of the movie 'Strange Days' -------------------------------------------------------------- Hugo Trippaers email prive: hugo@starbreeze.knoware.nl Knoware Sysadm email werk : trippaers@knoware.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 06:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA04490 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 06:13:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA28576; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 06:13:34 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA04387; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 06:12:53 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA70988 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 06:08:57 -0700 Received: from GroupWise.Kean.Edu (GroupWise.Kean.Edu [131.125.1.200]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id GAA08041 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 06:08:56 -0700 Received: from Kdomain1-Message_Server by GroupWise.Kean.Edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:05:03 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:04:37 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Paul Yahnig" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.0 and mail.txt Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello everyone. I have just upgreaded from 3.96 to 4.0. All of the users = have a mail.txt file in their home directories. If a user has say 120 = messages in tehre inbox in 3.96, they load 4.0 and see only the 4 new = messages in the inbox. The other 120 are there, but they can't see them. = I have gone back to 3.96 and all of the mail in the inboxes is there. Any = ideas?? Thanks, Paul Yahnig -------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul. Yahnig =20 Sr. Systems Administrator Kean University ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA09295 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA02964; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:36:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA14879; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:35:10 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA16198 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:32:03 -0700 Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA06196 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:32:02 -0700 Received: from localhost (mcope@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA19651 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Thomas Cope To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: literal '<' bug with enable-arrow-navigation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I noticed the following minor error with Pine 4.00 built on a Sparc/Solaris 2.6 box. When enable-arrow-navigation is checked, a literal '<' command in FOLDER LIST gives the error [Command "<" not defined for this screen. Use ? for help] ',' , '.' and '>' work as expected as do the arrow keys and '<' works in MESSAGE INDEX and MESSAGE TEXT. When enable-arrow-navigation is disabled, '<' works in all circumstances. -Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Cope: Harvey Mudd College '00; Armand Hammer UWC '96 E-mail: Michael_Cope@hmc.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:40:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA10294 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:40:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA04583; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:40:46 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA19003; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:39:34 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA66632 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:36:43 -0700 Received: from fis.cinvestav.mx (sophie.fis.cinvestav.mx [148.247.8.33]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id KAA01937 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:36:35 -0700 Received: from linda.fis.cinvestav.mx by fis.cinvestav.mx (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA16996; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:37:57 -0500 Received: from localhost by linda.fis.cinvestav.mx (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA02964; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:37:55 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:37:54 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: "Jose Manuel L. Bauche A." Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Jose Manuel L. Bauche A." To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: End-user. In-Reply-To: <199807141705.KAA16290@lists2.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: bauche@linda X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 14 Jul 1998, University of Washington ListProcessor wrote: > End-user questions about Pine should be directed to the newsgroup > comp.mail.pine rather than the mailing list. How can I do that? I don't know where should I send my question, but maybe You can help me. My question is: How can I put a "Reply to:" header on my outgoing messages? ____ ____ __ __ __ __ __ ___ | \ / T| T T / ]| T T / _] Jose Manuel Lara Bauche Alcalde. | o )Y o || | | / / | l | / [_ (015) 7512886 | T| || | | / / | _ |Y _] CINVESTAV-IPN Fisica. B-22 | O || _ || : |/ \_ | | || [_ Propedeuticos | || | || |\ || | || T bauche@fis.cinvestav.mx l_____jl__j__j \__,_j \____jl__j__jl_____j () bauche@grex.cyberspace.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA09091 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:55:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA05095; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:55:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA10834; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:53:55 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA76096 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:51:07 -0700 Received: from cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.83.40]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA17220 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:51:01 -0700 Message-Id: <199807141751.NAA01753@ocalhost> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:50:56 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: End-user. In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Author: "Jose Manuel L. Bauche A." Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:37:54 -0500 (CDT) ID: > > End-user questions about Pine should be directed to the newsgroup > > comp.mail.pine rather than the mailing list. > > How can I do that? Goto the List Folders window, goto the NNTP server window, add comp.mail.pine.... select, post > I don't know where should I send my question, but maybe You can > help me. My question is: How can I put a "Reply to:" header on my outgoing > messages? Don't ask that on the newsgroup..... really..... it won't be happy. Read the FAQ at http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/index.html It's the fifth entry. TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA26553 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA06647; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:47:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA23038; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:46:00 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA13020 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:43:10 -0700 Received: from fluke.com (mail.fluke.com [206.138.179.7]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA09810 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:43:09 -0700 Received: by gateway2.fluke.com id <27802>; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:38:36 -0700 Message-Id: <98Jul14.113836pdt.27802@gateway2.fluke.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:42:55 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Warren Jones To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Bug opening folders in subdirectories ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Warren Jones X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've run into what looks like a bug in the way Pine 4.00 handles folder collections with subdirectories. To reproduce: 1. Define *two* local folder collections. 2. The *second* collection in your folder list should include a subdirectory. 3. Go to your folder list ("L"). 4. Select the second folder collection. 5. Select a subdirectory. 6. Attempt to open a mail folder in the subdirectory. 7. Pine reports: [Can't open mailbox ... no such folder] But if you shuffle your folder list so that the collection with a subdirectory comes first, pine will open a folder in the subdirectory without any complaint! Here's an example: My .pinerc file defines two folder collections ... folder-collections="ECS mail folders" private/mail/folders/[], "Unix mail folders" mail/[] The second collection (mail/[]) contains a subdirectory named "apps". In that subdirectory, there is a folder named "cscope". When I go to the "mail/apps" subdirectory, the screen looks like this: Local folders in mail/ Dir: apps/ Now in directory: mail/apps/ When I select the "cscope" folder, I get this message: [ Can't open mailbox mail//tekoa/usr7/wjones/mail/apps/cscope: no such folder ] (My HOME directory is "/tekoa/usr7/wjones".) Here's an excerpt from .pine-debug1: ---- FOLDER LISTER ---- About to open folder "/tekoa/usr7/wjones/mail/apps/cscope" inbox: "INBOX" Close - saved inbox state: max 4 IMAP 09:14:23 7/14 mm_log ERROR: Can't open mailbox mail//tekoa/usr7/wjones/mail/apps/cscope: no such mailbox "About to open" shows the correct folder. Somewhere between there and "Can't open mailbox", the folder path has been munged. When I shuffle my folder list so that "mail/[]" comes first, I can open "mail/apps/cscope" without any problem. I've observed the same behavior under both Solaris 2.5 and Red Hat Linux 4.1. Any insights would be greatly appreciated. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Warren Jones | To keep every cog and wheel is the first Fluke Corporation | precaution of intelligent tinkering. Everett, Washington, USA | -- Aldo Leopold ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA13565 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA26333; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:29:34 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA16766; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:25:34 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA25360 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:08:22 -0700 Received: from out4.ibm.net (out4.ibm.net [165.87.194.239]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA22119 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:08:21 -0700 Received: from alpha.computers.org (ssdipola@slip139-92-33-160.lju.si.ibm.net [139.92.33.160]) by out4.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA63422 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:08:18 GMT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 22:09:48 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: Iztok Polanic Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Iztok Polanic To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: one more bug! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ssdipola@alpha.computers.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello !!! I've found another bug in Pine 4.00. If you have in your Setup/Config something like this: read-message-folder = ~/mail/saved-messages and if you go then in a shell and in a directory "~/mail" you'll see a directory called "home", then "your username", then "mail" and final the file "saved-messages". Bye. ////// xxxxxx ( o o ) xx xx /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ xx xx | From: Iztok Polanic | xxxx | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | xx xx | WWW: http://kotzi.home.ml.org | xx xx | http://www.intering.si | xx xx | ICQ: Kotzi => *12556824* | \-----------------------------------------/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA13814 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA26405; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:32:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA17510; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:30:36 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA76066 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:13:56 -0700 Received: from news.mtu.edu (root@news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA31912 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:13:55 -0700 Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18861; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:13:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rock.me.mtu.edu (root@rock.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.31]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02001; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:13:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hanky.me.mtu.edu (hanky.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.130]) by rock.me.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/mturelay-1.2) with SMTP id QAA02740; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:13:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:12:59 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edan Idzerda To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: More bugs in pine 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: edan@hanky.me.mtu.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk wrote: > 2. Pine makes a link from a simple word "www" or "wwww", which obviously > can't be a web address. My version of Pine 4 does not make a link from "www" but it DID make one from "wwww." In fact, if you have enable-web-host-scan set, words like WWWServers Inc will get a link. The attached patch enforces "www." as well as "web." which was already there. > documentation (asking on news:*.linux instead), maybe it could be a It also makes news:*.linux a link. That's kind of dumb too, and I don't currently understand why Pine considers characters like '*' an acceptable RFC1738 "EXTRA" character. I suppose I could read the rfc... bleah. :) - edan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 17:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA17768 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 17:02:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA14892; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 17:02:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA08538; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 17:01:35 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA17582 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:58:32 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA12390 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:58:31 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by kens.com (8.8.8/8.9.0) with SMTP id TAA12788; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 19:58:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 19:58:28 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: End-user. In-Reply-To: <199807141751.NAA01753@ocalhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Timothy J Luoma X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 14 Jul 1998, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > I don't know where should I send my question, but maybe You can > > help me. My question is: How can I put a "Reply to:" header on my outgoing > > messages? > > Don't ask that on the newsgroup..... really..... it won't be happy. > Read the FAQ at http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/index.html > It's the fifth entry. Sure, do it. Why not?? Watch Robin's head explode. Watch Adam have an anurism. Watch me do both and then just flame ths crap out of you. -- Ken Woods kwoodskens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:59:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA19978 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA18439; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:59:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA19268; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:58:11 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA18914 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:55:53 -0700 Received: from fluke.com (mail.fluke.com [206.138.179.7]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA28968 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:55:53 -0700 Received: by gateway2.fluke.com id <27781>; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:51:11 -0700 Message-Id: <98Jul14.205111pdt.27781@gateway2.fluke.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:55:36 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David Dyck To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Bug opening folders in subdirectories ? In-Reply-To: <98Jul14.113836pdt.27802@gateway2.fluke.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Warren Jones X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN similar to this, I used to read mail in other directories by starting pine with pine -f $PWD/file.in.this.directory and it would open the file as I desired This doesn't work any more. I did notice in the pine manual that: -f folder Open folder (in first defined folder collection) instead of INBOX. it mentions the _first_ folder collection. I wonder if this is related to your problem. On Tue, 14 Jul 1998, Warren Jones wrote: > Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:42:55 -0700 > From: Warren Jones > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Bug opening folders in subdirectories ? > > I've run into what looks like a bug in the way Pine 4.00 handles > folder collections with subdirectories. To reproduce: > > 1. Define *two* local folder collections. > > 2. The *second* collection in your folder > list should include a subdirectory. > > 3. Go to your folder list ("L"). > > 4. Select the second folder collection. > > 5. Select a subdirectory. > > 6. Attempt to open a mail folder in the subdirectory. > > 7. Pine reports: [Can't open mailbox ... no such folder] > > But if you shuffle your folder list so that the collection with > a subdirectory comes first, pine will open a folder in the > subdirectory without any complaint! Here's an example: > > My .pinerc file defines two folder collections ... > > folder-collections="ECS mail folders" private/mail/folders/[], > "Unix mail folders" mail/[] > > The second collection (mail/[]) contains a subdirectory named "apps". > In that subdirectory, there is a folder named "cscope". When I go > to the "mail/apps" subdirectory, the screen looks like this: > > Local folders in mail/ > Dir: apps/ > > Now in directory: mail/apps/ > > When I select the "cscope" folder, I get this message: > > [ Can't open mailbox mail//tekoa/usr7/wjones/mail/apps/cscope: > no such folder ] > > (My HOME directory is "/tekoa/usr7/wjones".) > > Here's an excerpt from .pine-debug1: > > ---- FOLDER LISTER ---- > About to open folder "/tekoa/usr7/wjones/mail/apps/cscope" inbox: "INBOX" > Close - saved inbox state: max 4 > IMAP 09:14:23 7/14 mm_log ERROR: > Can't open mailbox mail//tekoa/usr7/wjones/mail/apps/cscope: no such mailbox > > "About to open" shows the correct folder. Somewhere between there > and "Can't open mailbox", the folder path has been munged. > > When I shuffle my folder list so that "mail/[]" comes first, > I can open "mail/apps/cscope" without any problem. > > I've observed the same behavior under both Solaris 2.5 and Red Hat > Linux 4.1. Any insights would be greatly appreciated. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Warren Jones | To keep every cog and wheel is the first > Fluke Corporation | precaution of intelligent tinkering. > Everett, Washington, USA | -- Aldo Leopold > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA20310 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA06040; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:18:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA20164; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:17:23 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA49964 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:15:21 -0700 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (mailhost1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA30129 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:15:21 -0700 Received: from D-140-142-189-195.dhcp.washington.edu (D-140-142-189-195.dhcp.washington.edu [140.142.189.195]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id VAA24143; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:15:18 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:15:27 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Bug opening folders in subdirectories ? In-Reply-To: <98Jul14.205111pdt.27781@gateway2.fluke.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset = US-ASCII X-To: David Dyck X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN David, Try adding -c 0 to the argument list. This tells Pine to interpret the -f argument as file system path, rather than a name understood in the primary folder collection context. (I don't think this solves Warren's problem however, which looks suspiciously like a bug to me.) -teg On Tue, 14 Jul 1998, David Dyck wrote: > similar to this, I used to read mail in other directories > by starting pine with > > pine -f $PWD/file.in.this.directory > > and it would open the file as I desired > > This doesn't work any more. > > I did notice in the pine manual that: > > -f folder Open folder (in first defined folder > collection) instead of INBOX. > > it mentions the _first_ folder collection. I wonder if > this is related to your problem. > > On Tue, 14 Jul 1998, Warren Jones wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:42:55 -0700 > > From: Warren Jones > > To: Pine Discussion Forum > > Subject: Bug opening folders in subdirectories ? > > > > I've run into what looks like a bug in the way Pine 4.00 handles > > folder collections with subdirectories. To reproduce: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:53:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA19712 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:53:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA19098; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:53:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA08796; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:52:10 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA68804 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:48:46 -0700 Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de (norbert@apollonius.delta-ii.de [195.180.229.163]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA01748 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:48:44 -0700 Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA07904; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 06:48:36 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 15 Jul 1998 06:48:35 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: one more bug! In-Reply-To: Iztok Polanic's message of "Tue, 14 Jul 1998 22:09:48 +0200 (MET DST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: norbert@lamia.delta-ii.de X-To: Iztok Polanic X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-URL: http://www.delta-ii.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Iztok Polanic writes: > Hello !!! I've found another bug in Pine 4.00. If you have in your > Setup/Config something like this: > read-message-folder = ~/mail/saved-messages > and if you go then in a shell and in a directory "~/mail" you'll see > a directory called "home", then "your username", then "mail" and > final the file "saved-messages". Hmm, I would regard this not as a bug, but as the default behaviour of pine. The default directory wherein your mail-folders, which are _files_, are stored is '~/mail'. Now, you name your saved-messages folder as '~/mail/saved-messages'. If the programme is allowed to create the subdirectory structure (it obviously is :) it will create them. Therefore, just use the file name 'saved-messages' as folder name. Norbert. -- Norbert Koch, DELTA Industrie Informatik GmbH, Fellbach, Germany. YOW: Look!! Karl Malden! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA20148 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA06473; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:56:30 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA18591; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:55:28 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA68728 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:51:30 -0700 Received: from fluke.com (mail.fluke.com [206.138.179.7]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA12687 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:51:29 -0700 Received: by gateway2.fluke.com id <27778>; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:46:50 -0700 Message-Id: <98Jul14.214650pdt.27778@gateway2.fluke.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:51:12 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David Dyck To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Bug opening folders in subdirectories ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Terry Gray X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thanks for your very quick reply. Your suggestion was what I needed. Perhaps this can be documented in the manual, as I would never have guessed to add -c 0. Maybe someone could suggest a way to interpret the man page that would allow others to deduce this usefull information. -c context-number context-number is the number corre- sponding to the folder-collection to which the -f command line argument should be applied. By default the -f argument is applied to the first defined folder-collection. Dave, PS. I still needed to add the $PWD/ preceding the file name. On Tue, 14 Jul 1998, Terry Gray wrote: > Try adding -c 0 to the argument list. > This tells Pine to interpret the -f argument as file system path, > rather than a name understood in the primary folder collection context. > > On Tue, 14 Jul 1998, David Dyck wrote: > > > similar to this, I used to read mail in other directories > > by starting pine with > > > > pine -f $PWD/file.in.this.directory > > > > and it would open the file as I desired From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 02:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA27138 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 02:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA09984; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 02:22:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA26657; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 02:21:13 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA39846 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 02:18:36 -0700 Received: from out5.ibm.net (out5.ibm.net [165.87.194.243]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA23159 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 02:18:35 -0700 Received: from alpha.computers.org (ssdipola@slip139-92-33-4.lju.si.ibm.net [139.92.33.4]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA121404; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:18:26 GMT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:19:55 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Iztok Polanic To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: one more bug! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Norbert Koch X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ssdipola@alpha.computers.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 15 Jul 1998, Norbert Koch wrote: > Hmm, I would regard this not as a bug, but as the default behaviour of > pine. The default directory wherein your mail-folders, which are > _files_, are stored is '~/mail'. Now, you name your saved-messages > folder as '~/mail/saved-messages'. If the programme is allowed to > create the subdirectory structure (it obviously is :) it will create > them. Therefore, just use the file name 'saved-messages' as folder > name. > > But this didn't happen in 3.96 Bye. ////// xxxxxx ( o o ) xx xx /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ xx xx | From: Iztok Polanic | xxxx | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | xx xx | WWW: http://kotzi.home.ml.org | xx xx | http://www.intering.si | xx xx | ICQ: Kotzi => *12556824* | \-----------------------------------------/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 06:11:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA30716 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 06:11:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA26038; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 06:11:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA01895; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 06:08:38 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA75490 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 06:05:23 -0700 Received: from math.fu-berlin.de (leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de [160.45.40.10]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id GAA20831 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 06:05:17 -0700 Received: (qmail 12683 invoked from network); 15 Jul 1998 13:05:09 -0000 Received: from petzval.math.fu-berlin.de (HELO petzval) (160.45.40.12) by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de with SMTP; 15 Jul 1998 13:05:09 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:05:08 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: "C. v. Stuckrad" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "C. v. Stuckrad" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: and again one more bug! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-TestHeaderA: Written by C. v. Stuckrad; FB. Mathematik; EDV X-TestHeaderB: FU-Berlin; Arnimallee 2-6; 14195 Berlin; GERMANY X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi! I recently installed pine-4.00 and since then cannot save a specific kind of message from any mailbox into any other due to 'message shrunk'! Those mewssages always were formerly created by the broken version of the Sun-CDE-Program 'dtmail', which did introduce ^M (Carriage Return) in strategically important places :-) So those mails viewed binary look like -------------------------------------- From: user@domain To: me^M@mydomain Subject: text^M ------^^--------- see middle line ---!!! (The dumb MOTIF-Widget took the 'Return' from the user into the String when it added the default-domainname!) When I see those Messages on the display I get ---------------------------------------------- From: user@domain To: me@mydomain @mydomain Subject: text ------------------ (OOPS! extra line) And when I save I get the 'message #... shrunk' message and so I cannot 'work' with pine-4.00 :-( Does anybody have a idea/patch to avoid this situation ? (possibly avoiding re-editing of about 50 large archives :-) Stucki Christoph von Stuckrad * * | talk to | \ Freie Universitaet Berlin |/_* | nickname | ...!unido!fub!leibniz!stucki| Fachbereich Mathematik, EDV |\ * | 'stucki' | Tel:+49 30 838-75459 | Arnimallee 2-6/14195 Berlin * * | on IRC | Fax:+49 30 838-75454 / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA31286 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA27118; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:27:14 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA05017; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:25:24 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA16248 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:22:11 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA25914 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:22:11 -0700 Received: from mailhost.cas.utk.edu (MAILHOST.CAS.UTK.EDU [128.169.76.44]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA27038 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:22:08 -0700 Received: from aztec.lib.utk.edu (AZTEC.LIB.UTK.EDU [128.169.40.11]) by mailhost.cas.utk.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA20526 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:22:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by aztec.lib.utk.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA25883; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:18:18 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:18:18 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: bob To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: global address books MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I can't find the answer to this in tech-notes or anything, so I thought I would ask here. I tried to create a shared global address book for staff, and it *works*, but every time someone accesses it, they get an error message saying that they can't create global.addressbooks.lu, so a temp file will be used. Why on earth, if the global address book is supposed to be read only, would pine even be *trying* to create a lookup file for the global address book? There is already one there, and individual users have no need to write to it, so why is this happening? Mysterious error messages have a way of alarming people... - bob patrick ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA31618 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:44:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA14425; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:44:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA03802; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:43:01 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA50108 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:40:38 -0700 Received: from md2.vsnl.net.in (md2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.6.20]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA27294 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:40:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (ramchand@localhost) by md2.vsnl.net.in (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA28240 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 20:19:53 +0530 (IST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 20:19:52 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "RAMACHANDRAN \"CHIDAMBARAM\"" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Qutota exceeded MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine discussion forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To: pine discussion forum July 15, 1998. 20:05:42 From: Ramachandran. Chidambara.Iyer. I have emptied "Sent-mail". But mail is sent you see the following remarks: "Disc quota exceeded". "Write to "Sent-mail" FAILED!!!". WHY this remark? ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:56:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA30099 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA27591; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:56:22 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA06574; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:54:46 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA75406 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:52:20 -0700 Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de (norbert@apollonius.delta-ii.de [195.180.229.163]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA30137 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:52:18 -0700 Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12003; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:51:54 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 15 Jul 1998 16:51:54 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Qutota exceeded In-Reply-To: "RAMACHANDRAN \"CHIDAMBARAM\""'s message of "Wed, 15 Jul 1998 20:19:52 +0530 (IST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: norbert@lamia.delta-ii.de X-To: "RAMACHANDRAN \"CHIDAMBARAM\"" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-URL: http://www.delta-ii.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN "RAMACHANDRAN \"CHIDAMBARAM\"" writes: > To: pine discussion forum > July 15, 1998. 20:05:42 > From: Ramachandran. Chidambara.Iyer. > I have emptied "Sent-mail". But mail is sent you see the following > remarks: "Disc quota exceeded". "Write to "Sent-mail" FAILED!!!". WHY this > remark? Hi, it plainly tells you why. The amount of hard-disk space assigned to you is at its end. Look through your files, archive and remove them. Or ask your System Administrator to get a higher quota. Norbert. -- Dr Norbert Koch, DELTA Industrie Informatik GmbH, Fellbach, Germany. YOW: Bagels... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA32038 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA27981; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:12:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA25484; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:11:16 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA08180 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:08:34 -0700 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA08269 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:08:33 -0700 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA13733 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:08:34 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:08:34 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Bug opening folders in subdirectories ? In-Reply-To: <98Jul14.214650pdt.27778@gateway2.fluke.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: David Dyck >Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:51:12 -0700 >>On Tue, 14 Jul 1998, David Dyck wrote: >>>I used to read mail in other directories by starting pine with >>> pine -f $PWD/file.in.this.directory >>>and it would open the file as I desired >PS. I still needed to add the $PWD/ preceding the file name. Remember, the path assumed is relative to the default directory for saving folders. So, if that's ~/mail, pine would look for the folder or collection here. I don't see how pine could find the collections relative to $PWD. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:39:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA32623 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA28711; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:39:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA07235; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:38:14 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA12902 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:35:31 -0700 Received: from plato.physik.uni-konstanz.de (plato.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.147.28]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA13432 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:35:28 -0700 Received: from localhost (flo@localhost) by plato.physik.uni-konstanz.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA08870 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 17:35:19 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 17:35:19 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: Florian Kolbe Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Florian Kolbe To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: global address books In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi Bob, you need to create the .lu file ONCE. And then pine will be happy. So you need to recreate this file, every time the global addressbook is changed. Try 'man pine' and look for the parameter '-create_lu'. Cheers, Florian On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, bob wrote: b> I can't find the answer to this in tech-notes or anything, so I thought I b> would ask here. I tried to create a shared global address book for staff, b> and it *works*, but every time someone accesses it, they get an error b> message saying that they can't create global.addressbooks.lu, so a temp b> file will be used. b> b> Why on earth, if the global address book is supposed to be read only, b> would pine even be *trying* to create a lookup file for the global address b> book? There is already one there, and individual users have no need to b> write to it, so why is this happening? Mysterious error messages have a b> way of alarming people... b> b> - bob patrick ############################################################################ # Florian Kolbe - Florian.Kolbe@uni-konstanz.de # # Uni Konstanz, P1003, Tel. 88-3859 # ############################################################################ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:05:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA00769 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA16629; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:05:14 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA08274; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:03:22 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA30082 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:00:01 -0700 Received: from news.mtu.edu (root@news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA02358 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:00:00 -0700 Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12191; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:59:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rock.me.mtu.edu (root@rock.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.31]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12550; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:59:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hanky.me.mtu.edu (hanky.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.130]) by rock.me.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/mturelay-1.2) with SMTP id LAA11215; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:59:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:59:02 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edan Idzerda To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Bug opening folders in subdirectories ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Adam H. Kerman" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: edan@hanky.me.mtu.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > >From: David Dyck > >>>I used to read mail in other directories by starting pine with > >>> pine -f $PWD/file.in.this.directory > > Remember, the path assumed is relative to the default directory for saving > folders. So, if that's ~/mail, pine would look for the folder or collection > here. > > I don't see how pine could find the collections relative to $PWD. You're not seeing the point. Some of us have files with mail in them in other places. Under 3.96 % pine -f $PWD/folder would open the folder in the current directory. Under 4.00 % pine -f $PWD/folder pines does what you're suggesting, and tries to look for ~/Mail/$PWD/folder. In my opinion, that is dumb. Pine should not try to find a relative path when it's given an absolute one. Sure, make it so that users don't have to understand how directories work. But if they try to get tricky, let them fail or succeed the way one would expect it to work, I say. Yes, % pine -c 0 -f $PWD/folder works, but that seems like a pain. I think a better behavior would be to assume '-c 0' when foldernames starts with '/' or "./" so that I don't have to type as much. :) - edan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA01347 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:21:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA29872; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:21:18 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA08510; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:18:59 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA24620 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:16:35 -0700 Received: from fluke.com (mail.fluke.com [206.138.179.7]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA04318 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:16:35 -0700 Received: by gateway2.fluke.com id <27794>; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:11:52 -0700 Message-Id: <98Jul15.091152pdt.27794@gateway2.fluke.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:16:23 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David Dyck To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4 Enhancement Request, was Re: Bug opening folders in subdirectories In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Edan Idzerda X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Well stated, I hope this enhancement request goes through On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, Edan Idzerda wrote: > I think a better behavior would be to assume '-c 0' when foldernames > starts with '/' or "./" so that I don't have to type as much. :) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA01932 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA00653; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:45:58 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA10144; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:44:24 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA39904 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:41:47 -0700 Received: from plato.physik.uni-konstanz.de (flo@plato.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.147.28]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA21295 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:41:45 -0700 Received: from localhost (flo@localhost) by plato.physik.uni-konstanz.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA09394 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 18:41:42 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 18:41:41 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: Florian Kolbe Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Florian Kolbe To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Q: how to use the 'incoming-archive-folders' feature? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ok, I won't get this to work, and it's probably some syntax error or I am totally misunderstanding this feature. I have an extra incoming folder nicked 'pine-info' sitting in ~/mail/lists/pine-info (that's fed via procmail): incoming-folders=pine-info mail/lists/pine-info This folder 'by itself' works perfectly. But I want the read messages from '~/mail/lists/pine-info' to be auto-moved to an archive folder '~/mail/lists/pine-info-archived': incoming-archive-folders = mail/lists/pine-info mail/lists/pine-info-archived [X] auto-move-read-msgs I don't have 'read-message-folder' set, because I don't want this feature for other folders. Are these settings correct? Because it doesn't work. I also tried prefixing a ~/ but this didn't work either. When I leave the 'mail/lists/pine-info' folder (by opening INBOX for example) I get the status 'Closing folder pine-info, keeping 303 messages' and the messages are not moved. I tried 'pine -d 9' but it doesn't give me anything. Any help would be appreciated. Florian Kolbe ############################################################################ # Florian Kolbe - Florian.Kolbe@uni-konstanz.de # # Uni Konstanz, P1003, Tel. 88-3859 # ############################################################################ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA02240 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:12:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA18576; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:12:12 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA03591; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:10:44 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA21108 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:07:21 -0700 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (mailhost1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA24406 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:07:21 -0700 Received: from D-140-142-110-126.dhcp2.washington.edu (D-140-142-110-126.dhcp2.washington.edu [140.142.110.126]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id KAA08912; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:07:14 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:09:37 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Q: how to use the 'incoming-archive-folders' feature? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset = US-ASCII X-To: Florian Kolbe X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Florian, I haven't tried using the syntax you did, with the absolute path for the source folder, so there may be a bug there... but I use this form, with the nickname of the source folder, successfully: incoming-archive-folders = IMAP imap-arch IMAPEXT imapext-arch PINE pine-arch PINE-INFO pine-info-arch PINE-SUGGESTIONS pine-sug-arch -teg On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, Florian Kolbe wrote: > Ok, I won't get this to work, and it's probably some syntax error or I am > totally misunderstanding this feature. > > I have an extra incoming folder nicked 'pine-info' sitting in > ~/mail/lists/pine-info (that's fed via procmail): > > incoming-folders=pine-info mail/lists/pine-info > > This folder 'by itself' works perfectly. > > But I want the read messages from '~/mail/lists/pine-info' to be auto-moved to > an archive folder '~/mail/lists/pine-info-archived': > > incoming-archive-folders = mail/lists/pine-info mail/lists/pine-info-archived > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:37:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA00116 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA19235; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:37:43 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA14987; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:35:58 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA18712 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:33:23 -0700 Received: from mailhost.cas.utk.edu (MAILHOST.CAS.UTK.EDU [128.169.76.44]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA24545 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:33:22 -0700 Received: from aztec.lib.utk.edu (AZTEC.LIB.UTK.EDU [128.169.40.11]) by mailhost.cas.utk.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id NAA19929 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:33:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by aztec.lib.utk.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA01572; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:29:37 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:29:37 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: bob Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: bob To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: global address books In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The address book problem has gotten even stranger. Someone suggested that I try the -create_lu option, but the error still occurs. Then I noticed this: If I launch pine as root at the console, then press A to enter the address book, then press return to enter the personal address book, the message I see at the bottom is the same error, only now referring to the personal address book: [Can't write in directory containing .addressbook.lu, using temp file] But the directory containing root's .addressbook.lu is /, which is definitely writable by root. Why would this be the case, how is this related to the global addressbook problem? Thanks, - bob patrick From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA01701 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA03535; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:34:59 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA19400; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:31:35 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA27846 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:28:53 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA01829 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:28:52 -0700 Received: from cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.83.40]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA03379 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:28:49 -0700 Message-Id: <199807151828.OAA17297@ocalhost> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:28:44 -0400 Reply-To: luomat+Lists\/Unix\/Pine@luomat.peak.org Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: patch wanted: get Pine, version # and OS information out of Message-ID Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Does anyone have a patch to take out the following information from the Message-ID? IE rather than this: I would like this: <980715111116.17030A-100000@domainnamehere> I don't feel any need to share the rest of the information with the rest of the world. I'm not sure how to patch it myself, after lookin at the code. I can hack the binary itself, but I'd rather have a working patch, Anyone have one? TjL ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA04014 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:47:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA21234; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:47:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA18413; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:45:51 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA08012 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:43:12 -0700 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA21821 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:43:10 -0700 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA17099 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:43:07 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:43:07 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Bug opening folders in subdirectories ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This should go without saying. If you reply to the list, please don't Cc me. >From: Edan Idzerda >Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:59:02 -0400 (EDT) >On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, Adam H. Kerman wrote: >>>From: David Dyck >>>>>I used to read mail in other directories by starting pine with >>>>> pine -f $PWD/file.in.this.directory >>Remember, the path assumed is relative to the default directory for saving >>folders. So, if that's ~/mail, pine would look for the folder or collection >>here. >>I don't see how pine could find the collections relative to $PWD. >You're not seeing the point. Some of us have files with mail in them in other >places. All right. I could have added, "unless I cd to the directory containing the collection," but I didn't. I don't care to do that each time I invoke pine so I specify the relative path. >pines does what you're suggesting, and tries to look for >~/Mail/$PWD/folder. >In my opinion, that is dumb. It does appear that pine is ignoring an environment variable. I assume you verified that nothing else changed that would prevent this from being passed on to pine. >Pine should not try to find a relative path when it's given an absolute one. Er, if I am relying on variable expansion, am I not by definition specifying a relative path? It's only an absolute path if I specify it from root. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA02118 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA22618; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:43:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA23632; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:42:10 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA74214 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:39:33 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA06288 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:39:32 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by kens.com (8.8.8/8.9.0) with SMTP id PAA18664; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:39:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:39:12 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Qutota exceeded In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "RAMACHANDRAN \"CHIDAMBARAM\"" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum , root@md2.vsnl.net.in X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Luser: Your admin has disk quotas set up, and you have exceeded them. Why do you think this is a problem with pine??? You admins's are copied on this message, ask them. On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, RAMACHANDRAN "CHIDAMBARAM" wrote: > To: pine discussion forum > July 15, 1998. 20:05:42 > From: Ramachandran. Chidambara.Iyer. > I have emptied "Sent-mail". But mail is sent you see the following > remarks: "Disc quota exceeded". "Write to "Sent-mail" FAILED!!!". WHY this > remark? > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Ken Woods kwoodskens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA05008 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA22900; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:57:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA13254; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:56:19 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA78174 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:53:54 -0700 Received: from gumby.telefusion.com ([208.151.198.23]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA07771 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:53:53 -0700 Received: from telefusion.com (axel.telefusion.com [208.151.198.3]) by gumby.telefusion.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA20439 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:49:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <35AD0808.65380ACD@telefusion.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:50:32 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: wayward To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Error during compile MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm trying to compile Pine 4.00 under Solaris 2.5 on a Sparc10 using gcc version 2.7.2.2. All packages compile just fine except Pine itself. During the build I get the following output: pine.o: In function 'main': /opt/imports/src/mail/pine4.00/pine/pine.c:220: undefined reference to 'srandom' make: *** [pine] Error 1 size: bin/pine: no such file or directory I'm running build as 'build gs5' as listed in the tech-notes, without any options or flags. Any ideas what's going on here? Many thanks in advance, ---steve -- Steven R. "Wayward" Aines wayward@telefusion.com System Administrator http://www.telefusion.com TeleFusion, an SAIC company "A sysadmin's life is always intense." ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA06738 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:14:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA25121; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:14:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA16515; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:11:31 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA44530 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:09:09 -0700 Received: from news.mtu.edu (root@news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA06928 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:09:08 -0700 Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA09799 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 17:09:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rock.me.mtu.edu (root@rock.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.31]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27907 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 17:09:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marlin2.me.mtu.edu (marlin2.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.50]) by rock.me.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/mturelay-1.2) with SMTP id RAA16903 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 17:08:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 17:08:55 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edan Idzerda To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Bug opening folders in subdirectories ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: edan@marlin2.me.mtu.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > This should go without saying. If you reply to the list, please don't Cc me. My deepest apologies. > All right. I could have added, "unless I cd to the directory containing the > collection," but I didn't. I don't care to do that each time I invoke pine > so I specify the relative path. No, I'm talking about when I'm IN a directory that contains a folder that I wish to view. I want to say % pine -f ./folder And not have Pine run off and open ~/Mail/./folder Eh? Ka-peesh? > >pines does what you're suggesting, and tries to look for > >~/Mail/$PWD/folder. > > >In my opinion, that is dumb. > > It does appear that pine is ignoring an environment variable. I assume you > verified that nothing else changed that would prevent this from being passed on > to pine. Ah, I see for my example I should have said % echo $PWD /home/somewhere/edan/directory % pine -f $PWD/folder Pine will try to open ~/Mail//home/somewhere/edan/directory/folder THAT'S dumb! > >Pine should not try to find a relative path when it's given an absolute one. > > Er, if I am relying on variable expansion, am I not by definition specifying a > relative path? It's only an absolute path if I specify it from root. Er, no. If I enter % pine -f $PWD/folder Pine doesn't know I typed $PWD, right? I'm not expecting pine to do anything fancy. When I give Pine a folder that starts with "./" or "/" I want it to realize I am specifying an absolute path. I will probably code it myself since I doubt its on the priority list of the Pine developers, particularly since "-c 0" makes it work that way. - edan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA06996 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:15:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA25143; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:15:15 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA16370; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:08:25 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA24716 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:05:56 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA19869 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:05:56 -0700 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (mailhost1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA07539 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:05:54 -0700 Received: from D-140-142-110-126.dhcp2.washington.edu (D-140-142-110-126.dhcp2.washington.edu [140.142.110.126]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA20539 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:05:52 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:08:17 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Bug opening folders in subdirectories ? (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset = US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, Edan Idzerda wrote: > Yes, > > % pine -c 0 -f $PWD/folder > > works, but that seems like a pain. I think a better behavior would > be to assume '-c 0' when foldernames starts with '/' or "./" so that > I don't have to type as much. :) Remember that the folder collection contexts can specify remote IMAP servers as well as local filesystem paths. The -c flag is needed to over-ride the default context, otherwise Pine would not know whether you are referring to /foo/bar on the IMAP server or /foo/bar on the local host. A more reasonable criticism would be that in the case of a local default context, a path beginning with / should successfully break out of the context without needing the -c 0... And we would agree, but it turns out that there is a bug in that case. -teg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 01:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA13838 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 01:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA06146; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 01:04:18 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA19195; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 01:03:17 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA87006 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 01:00:29 -0700 Received: from hex.de.uu.net (hex.de.uu.net [192.76.144.27]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA02312 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 01:00:28 -0700 Received: from gate1.ife-le.de (gate1.ife-le.de [194.115.104.202]:1917) by hex.de.uu.net with ESMTP (5.65+:004/3.0.2) id JAA13822; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:52:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by gate1.ife-le.de with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #2) id 0ywikG-0003qB-00; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:46:28 +0200 Received: with local-smtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 0ywikH-00016B-00; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:46:29 +0200 Message-Id: <0ywikG-0003qB-00@ife-le.de> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:46:29 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rudolf Kompf To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Q: how to use the 'incoming-archive-folders' feature? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Florian Kolbe X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have the following spec: ... incoming-folders="pine-faq-mail" filtered-incoming-mail/pine-faq-mail ... incoming-archive-folders=pine-faq-mail sav-pine/pine-faq-mail ... where filtered-incoming-mail is in $HOME and sav-pine in $HOME/mail. The folders in filtered-incoming-mail are maintained by procmail. Hope this helps. Rudolf On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, Florian Kolbe wrote: -> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 18:41:41 +0200 (CEST) -> From: Florian Kolbe -> To: Pine Discussion Forum -> Subject: Q: how to use the 'incoming-archive-folders' feature? -> -> -> Ok, I won't get this to work, and it's probably some syntax error or I am -> totally misunderstanding this feature. -> -> I have an extra incoming folder nicked 'pine-info' sitting in -> ~/mail/lists/pine-info (that's fed via procmail): -> -> incoming-folders=pine-info mail/lists/pine-info -> -> This folder 'by itself' works perfectly. -> -> But I want the read messages from '~/mail/lists/pine-info' to be auto-moved to -> an archive folder '~/mail/lists/pine-info-archived': -> -> incoming-archive-folders = mail/lists/pine-info mail/lists/pine-info-archived -> -> [X] auto-move-read-msgs -> -> I don't have 'read-message-folder' set, because I don't want this feature -> for other folders. -> -> Are these settings correct? Because it doesn't work. I also tried prefixing -> a ~/ but this didn't work either. When I leave the 'mail/lists/pine-info' -> folder (by opening INBOX for example) I get the status 'Closing folder -> pine-info, keeping 303 messages' and the messages are not moved. -> -> I tried 'pine -d 9' but it doesn't give me anything. -> -> Any help would be appreciated. -> -> Florian Kolbe -> -> ############################################################################ -> # Florian Kolbe - Florian.Kolbe@uni-konstanz.de # -> # Uni Konstanz, P1003, Tel. 88-3859 # -> ############################################################################ -> -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 02:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA14922 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 02:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA07063; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 02:13:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA19939; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 02:12:18 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA63574 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 02:09:42 -0700 Received: from wanadoo.fr (root@smtp-out-1.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.68]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA23952 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 02:09:40 -0700 Received: from root@tamaya.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.31] by wanadoo.fr for Paris Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:10:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from tls5-90.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.252.160.90] by smtp.wanadoo.fr for Paris Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:10:07 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:08:52 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Junichi Saito To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: How can I get rid of it ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: junichi@wanadoo.fr X-To: Pine Mailing List X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN After compiling Pine 4.0 on a Linux, I have noticed that the following message is created by imapd in each folder I visit : From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 16 10:34:08 1998 Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:34:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Mail System Internal Data Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA X-IMAP: 0900578028 0000000008 Status: RO This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created with the data reset to initial values. This may well be a normal default behavior. What is some what annoying for me is that the same message gets created also in my INBOX folder (/var/mail/junichi) so each time I log in, I now see a message saying 'You have mail' even if there is in fact no real message there. I would like to know how I can disable this feature. junichi ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 03:26:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA09228 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 03:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id DAA07877; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 03:26:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA20968; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 03:25:34 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA72054 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 03:22:54 -0700 Received: from math.fu-berlin.de (qmailr@leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de [160.45.40.10]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id DAA26491 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 03:22:52 -0700 Received: (qmail 5632 invoked from network); 16 Jul 1998 10:22:39 -0000 Received: from petzval.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.12) by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de with SMTP; 16 Jul 1998 10:22:39 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:22:36 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: "C. v. Stuckrad" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "C. v. Stuckrad" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: How can I get rid of it ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Junichi Saito X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: stucki@petzval X-TestHeaderA: Written by C. v. Stuckrad; FB. Mathematik; EDV X-TestHeaderB: FU-Berlin; Arnimallee 2-6; 14195 Berlin; GERMANY X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, Junichi Saito wrote: > After compiling Pine 4.0 on a Linux, I have noticed that the > following message is created by imapd in each folder I visit : > Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA > I would like to know how I can disable this feature. Hi! Sorry, but I believe we'll have to forget pine... Use 'pop3' add 'ssh' for security, or use the combination of SSL and POP3 for security and simply forget pine. Our users are complaining about that 'forever-1-mail' too, and as pine4 is broken anyway, we'll have to switch to 'mutt' and 'pop'. Stucki (irritated admin and postmaster, using mutt from now on) Christoph von Stuckrad * * | talk to | \ Freie Universitaet Berlin |/_* | nickname | ...!unido!fub!leibniz!stucki| Fachbereich Mathematik, EDV |\ * | 'stucki' | Tel:+49 30 838-75459 | Arnimallee 2-6/14195 Berlin * * | on IRC | Fax:+49 30 838-75454 / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:55:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA24374 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA27530; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:55:46 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA23951; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:53:40 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA39718 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:50:30 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA29945 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:50:29 -0700 Received: from uu7.psi.com (uu7.psi.com [38.8.39.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA14879 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:50:24 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uu7.psi.com (8.8.8/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) with UUCP id QAA22764 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:50:15 GMT Received: by jandr.com (8.6.13/200.19.1.1) id MAA00669; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:45:11 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:45:11 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe DiBenedetto To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PC Pine 3.96 addressbook MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Info Newsgroup X-Sender: joed@jrmusic X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Greetings, I'm using PC Pine and it's working quite well except for one annoying problem: I can't access my personal and global addressbooks. If I login to my smtp server directly and run Unix Pine, no problem. All other operations in PC Pine work perfectly. The error I get is: "No addressbook operations are possible". Is it me? Joe ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA28056 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA01533; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:23:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA12511; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:21:51 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA43408 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:19:14 -0700 Received: from plato.physik.uni-konstanz.de (plato.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.147.28]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA07964 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:19:13 -0700 Received: from localhost (flo@localhost) by plato.physik.uni-konstanz.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA15676 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:19:05 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:19:04 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: Florian Kolbe Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Florian Kolbe To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Q: how to use the 'incoming-archive-folders' feature? In-Reply-To: <0ywikG-0003qB-00@ife-le.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To conclude: The setting 'incoming-archive-folders' holds a comma-separated (?) list of pairs, the two values in a pair being separated by a blank. The FIRST value in a pair is the NICKNAME of an incoming folder as specified in the setting 'incoming-folders'. Is this the only way??? Is it is, it should be pointed out the only help for this setting! The SECOND value in a pair is the name of the folder file relative to ~/mail, if a relative path is specified (or other ways of specifying a folder are probably possible). Thanks to Rudolf Kompf and Terry Gray for replying. Florian Kolbe ############################################################################ # Florian Kolbe - Florian.Kolbe@uni-konstanz.de # # Uni Konstanz, P1003, Tel. 88-3859 # ############################################################################ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA31737 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA07195; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:04:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA24845; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:02:34 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA39356 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 15:59:54 -0700 Received: from continuum.cm.nu (shane@00-00-c0-36-52-fa.bconnected.net [209.53.18.213]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA12807 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 15:59:53 -0700 Received: from localhost (shane@localhost) by continuum.cm.nu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA03418; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 15:59:49 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 15:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shane Wegner To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: How can I get rid of it ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Junichi Saito X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- It will either require that the folks working on pine pull it violently out of the pine code or modify login, finger, all pop3 and imap servers, emacs, elm, mail, mailx, and possible fetchmail. I'm probably missing some. Which is more feasable? The first message in the folder isn't a bad idea but not in inbox eh. - -- Shane Wegner: mailto:shane@cm.nu Sysadmin, Continuum Systems: http://www.cm.nu/ Vice President, W.A.P.V.I. Personal website: http://www.cm.nu/~shane/ PGP key: finger shane@cm.nu On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, Junichi Saito wrote: > > After compiling Pine 4.0 on a Linux, I have noticed that the > following message is created by imapd in each folder I visit : > > From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 16 10:34:08 1998 > Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:34:08 +0200 (CEST) > From: Mail System Internal Data > Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA > X-IMAP: 0900578028 0000000008 > Status: RO > > This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not > a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. > If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created > with the data reset to initial values. > > This may well be a normal default behavior. What is some what annoying for > me is that the same message gets created also in my INBOX folder > (/var/mail/junichi) so each time I log in, I now see a message saying 'You > have mail' even if there is in fact no real message there. > > I would like to know how I can disable this feature. > > junichi > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNa6F5JJJLM/l/+PBAQEYWwP/ZI4QwsgerjjHW9j8gFQQjGDnRWyD81jZ 2xnVrmkiISlhFyn/NYv72JGlsjJVL9tXXuBLyMQz6gavxsGTuEHDRbZawpSpFqaZ 7ZzwihkEqqQihWPVT23STZCJrI2d8mM5U5v6OQKeRGI5uE4y0IP8nZvdVL8IqqFS j5a8dkqUD4c= =IfDp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA25083 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:10:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA25573; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:10:42 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA24817; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:09:26 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA48062 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:07:01 -0700 Received: from continuum.cm.nu (shane@00-00-c0-36-52-fa.bconnected.net [209.53.18.213]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA32431 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:07:00 -0700 Received: from localhost (shane@localhost) by continuum.cm.nu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA03544; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:03:33 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shane Wegner To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: How can I get rid of it ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "C. v. Stuckrad" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I'm not sure abandoning pine is necessary. All programs have bugs. If there is a bug in sendmail, you don't necessarily stop using it. I do think it would be a good idea if there was a patch made available to pull it out before the release of pine 4.01 because many systems do use pine and I'm sure it's causing alot of havoc out there. I looked at the code and it looks very difficult to pull out. I don't think it's as easy as just pulling out the fprintf lines that are responsible. - -- Shane Wegner: mailto:shane@cm.nu Sysadmin, Continuum Systems: http://www.cm.nu/ Vice President, W.A.P.V.I. Personal website: http://www.cm.nu/~shane/ PGP key: finger shane@cm.nu On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, C. v. Stuckrad wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, Junichi Saito wrote: > > > After compiling Pine 4.0 on a Linux, I have noticed that the > > following message is created by imapd in each folder I visit : > > > Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA > > > I would like to know how I can disable this feature. > > Hi! > > Sorry, but I believe we'll have to forget pine... > Use 'pop3' add 'ssh' for security, or use the combination > of SSL and POP3 for security and simply forget pine. > > Our users are complaining about that 'forever-1-mail' > too, and as pine4 is broken anyway, we'll have to switch > to 'mutt' and 'pop'. > > Stucki (irritated admin and postmaster, using mutt from now on) > > Christoph von Stuckrad * * | talk to | \ > Freie Universitaet Berlin |/_* | nickname | ...!unido!fub!leibniz!stucki| > Fachbereich Mathematik, EDV |\ * | 'stucki' | Tel:+49 30 838-75459 | > Arnimallee 2-6/14195 Berlin * * | on IRC | Fax:+49 30 838-75454 / > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNa6Gw5JJLM/l/+PBAQHmCQP/R4PO2PuTQ73A+6CpLRNqk0uinvA3wNfP fGlHTemOqEgNNhaiU7jMXbjTgY8Ss6A+b4vD7kdG/m8a85AkV5cWnfH3+2iDRMVg YdZnKoEQi87QNKc6OsYJsyKu8IgwdKab6jXERIIehbHClSRtNbSIdIEsggKAOcI5 HlespSa4U/8= =dFFA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 17:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA32617 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 17:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA08503; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 17:02:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA27429; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 17:01:38 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA70922 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:59:05 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA03146 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:59:05 -0700 Received: from cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.83.40]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA26715 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:59:02 -0700 Message-Id: <199807162359.TAA29945@ocalhost> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 19:58:58 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: EMERGENCY: new remote root exploit in UW imapd Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hey folks, I haven't seen this on the list and thought it would be of interest here: Rather than forwarding the entire article, I'll point to the URL from BugTraq http://www.NETSPACE.ORG/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind9807c&L=bugtraq&O=T&P=2045 TjL ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA03177 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:18:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA00436; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:18:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA23902; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:17:44 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA69212 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:15:13 -0700 Received: from fluke.com (mail.fluke.com [206.138.179.7]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA20847 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:15:13 -0700 Received: by gateway2.fluke.com id <27786>; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:10:46 -0700 Message-Id: <98Jul16.211046pdt.27786@gateway2.fluke.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:14:55 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David Dyck To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: bug in url parser In-Reply-To: <199807162359.TAA29945@ocalhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Timothy J Luoma X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN the following message doesn't pass the url directly to exec, or quote the argument. my guess is it gets passed directly to system. there is room for improvement in this area, as I couldn't even pass a simple argument ('-n') to the program I wanted to invoke either. I'd suggest if pine is going to check that the program exists, and it knows it wasj just passed the url, that it fork and exec with the args already parsed (like perl's system "prog", "arg1", "arg2"; #.... On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:58:58 -0700 > From: Timothy J Luoma > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: EMERGENCY: new remote root exploit in UW imapd > > > > Hey folks, I haven't seen this on the list and thought it would be of > interest here: > > Rather than forwarding the entire article, I'll point to the URL from BugTraq > > http://www.NETSPACE.ORG/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind9807c&L=bugtraq&O=T&P=2045 > > TjL > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 01:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA05967 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 01:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA03459; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 01:45:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA08465; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 01:44:30 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA29776 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 01:41:49 -0700 Received: from hex.de.uu.net (hex.de.uu.net [192.76.144.27]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA00019 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 01:41:47 -0700 Received: from gate1.ife-le.de (gate1.ife-le.de [194.115.104.202]:2050) by hex.de.uu.net with ESMTP (5.65+:004/3.0.2) for id KAA12420; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:33:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by gate1.ife-le.de with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #2) for pine-info@u.washington.edu id 0yx65J-0007df-00; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:41:45 +0200 Received: with local-smtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for pine-info@u.washington.edu id 0yx65L-0001Ac-00; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:41:47 +0200 Message-Id: <0yx65J-0007df-00@ife-le.de> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:41:47 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rudolf Kompf To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Simultaneous Del & Save: BUG? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have 1 read message in INBOX and several messages in my read-message-folder=sav-inbox/saved-messages. If I go into the read-message-folder, delete 1 message and then quit pine, the following dialog appears: Really quit pine? Y Expunge 1 deleted message from "sav-inbox/saved-messages"? Y Closing "sav-inbox/saved-messages"...Save the 1 read message in sav-inbox/saved-messages? Y Error saving to sav-inbox/saved-messages. Not all messages moved. And now the message from INBOX is duplicated: - Saved to sav-inbox/saved-messages - Remains in INBOX The .pine-debug1 ends with the following lines: ---- QUIT SCREEN ---- Want_to read: RETURN (13) - completely_done_with_adrbks - expunge and close mail stream "/home/omega06/kompf/mail/sav-inbox/saved-messages" Want_to read: RETURN (13) mm_expunged(/home/omega06/kompf/mail/sav-inbox/saved-messages,39) === mm_exists(38,/home/omega06/kompf/mail/sav-inbox/saved-messages) called === IMAP 10:08:16 7/17 mm_log babble: Expunged 1 messages expunge and close mail stream "/var/mail/kompf" Want_to read: RETURN (13) same_stream: mail/sav-inbox/saved-messages == /var/mail/kompf same_stream: no dice same_stream: mail/sav-inbox/saved-messages == /var/mail/kompf same_stream: no dice about to end_tty_driver end_signals(0) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:50:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA05875 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA24521; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:49:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA26907; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:47:55 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA15098 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:45:07 -0700 Received: from gumby.telefusion.com ([208.151.198.23]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA00986 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:45:07 -0700 Received: from telefusion.com (axel.telefusion.com [208.151.198.3]) by gumby.telefusion.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA01052 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 13:40:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <35AF8CDB.47AF728@telefusion.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 13:41:48 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: wayward To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: [Fwd: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------06830BC6B0FD30495F60F9B0" X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------06830BC6B0FD30495F60F9B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Some of our users read their mail with both PINE and POP3 clients. Occasionally they've been getting the message below in their POP3 mailbox. So far it has just been an annoyance, but I'm wondering if this is at all bad. Are we setting ourselves up for errors down the road like lost message folders, etc.? Thanks in advance, ---steve -- Steven R. "Wayward" Aines wayward@telefusion.com System Administrator http://www.telefusion.com TeleFusion, an SAIC company "A sysadmin's life is always intense." --------------06830BC6B0FD30495F60F9B0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 11:47:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Mail System Internal Data Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA X-IMAP: 0900653032 0000000017 This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created with the data reset to initial values. --------------06830BC6B0FD30495F60F9B0-- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA24987 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:31:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA26656; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:31:36 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA17265; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:29:44 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA39816 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:27:22 -0700 Received: from continuum.cm.nu (shane@00-00-c0-36-52-fa.bconnected.net [209.53.18.213]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA02503 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:27:19 -0700 Received: from localhost (shane@localhost) by continuum.cm.nu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA00842; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:26:59 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:26:58 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shane Wegner To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: [Fwd: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA] In-Reply-To: <35AF8CDB.47AF728@telefusion.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: wayward X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- If you use the pop3d that comes with pine4.00, it will not send these messages to the user's pop3 account. - -- Shane Wegner: mailto:shane@cm.nu ICQ: 15706546 Sysadmin, Continuum Systems: http://www.cm.nu/ Vice President, W.A.P.V.I. Personal website: http://www.cm.nu/~shane/ PGP key: finger shane@cm.nu On Fri, 17 Jul 1998, wayward wrote: > Some of our users read their mail with both PINE and POP3 clients. > Occasionally they've been getting the message below in their POP3 > mailbox. So far it has just been an annoyance, but I'm wondering if > this is at all bad. Are we setting ourselves up for errors down the > road like lost message folders, etc.? > > Thanks in advance, > ---steve > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNbAyI5JJLM/l/+PBAQGi1gQAlfaP9q/TkAEnDH8K+R2euecyz9lrvPnU o9v7OVFO5sv4Lt8PRm30mfQXwK6RFPx4bzy8kFlakdpsI89fCRNEjXY9juCu3nDJ olDc8v0MX36ZAyEUN7zdGYlPUHXYsdEcAlQlIpukt9yDEunAV03amey04BlQNRxZ XE6a0rAkYo8= =NJxK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA00060 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA14042; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:10:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA23800; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:08:31 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA35990 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:04:39 -0700 Received: from mustang.via.net (mustang.via.net [140.174.204.4]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id HAA00781 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:04:38 -0700 Received: (from datela@localhost) by mustang.via.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id HAA17403; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:04:37 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Talent-Management To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Setting Justification Width In-Reply-To: <0yx65J-0007df-00@ife-le.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: datela@mustang.via.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN When setting ^j (justification), Pine sets the line width to a pre-determined length. How can this length be changed, permanently? Bryan ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:29:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA01439 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:29:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA15442; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:29:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA26090; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:29:03 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA31628 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:26:20 -0700 Received: from marid.phs.com (marid.phs.com [149.111.34.33]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id JAA05118 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:26:20 -0700 Received: by marid.phs.com id AA25506; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:26:17 -0700 Received: from raven.phs.com by shaitan.phs.com (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/06Aug96-1111AM) id AA19608; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:26:17 -0700 Received: from localhost by raven.phs.com (5.65v4.0/1.1.10.5/01Jul97-1052PM) id AA14252; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:26:13 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:26:13 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Hatz To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Why is pine creating .pine-debug* [was: Re: Pine 4.00 problems] In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Stefan Kramer X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have pine aliased to launch and not create debug files via the '/usr/local/bin/pine -d0' command. This is in the manpage, and probably in the FAQ. Mike ========== Which is the greater crime, to rob a bank, or to own one? On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Stefan Kramer wrote: >On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Iztok Polanic wrote: > >IP} Message-ID: >IP} From: Iztok Polanic >IP} To: Pine Discussion Forum >IP} Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:09:33 +0200 (MET DST) >IP} Subject: Pine 4.00 problems >IP} .... >IP} 2. Why is pine creating .pine-debug*??? Is there a way how to prevent pine >IP} from doing this??? >IP} .... > >See '3.13 What are these .pine-debug files for?' at >http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/problems.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA01930 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA04947; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:15:38 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA28401; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:13:01 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA21542 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:09:41 -0700 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA12691 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:09:40 -0700 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA01594 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 13:09:48 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 13:09:47 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Setting Justification Width In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Talent-Management >Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:04:36 -0700 (PDT) >When setting ^j (justification), Pine sets the line width to a >pre-determined length. How can this length be changed, permanently? The name of the option is composer-wrap-column. When using pico as a text editor, invoke it with "-r[some number]". See the context-sensitive help and the pico man page for more information. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 09:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA15618 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 09:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA18673; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 09:34:49 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA09276; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 09:33:45 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA17490 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 09:31:10 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id JAA31274 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 09:31:10 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA24737; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 11:30:51 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 11:30:51 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PINE-INFO digest 385 In-Reply-To: <199807190704.AAA12343@lists2.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 Mike Hatz wrote: > I have pine aliased to launch and not create debug files via the > '/usr/local/bin/pine -d0' command. This is in the manpage, and probably > in the FAQ. AND.. On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 "Adam H. Kerman" wrote: > The name of the option is composer-wrap-column. When using pico as a text > editor, invoke it with "-r[some number]". See the context-sensitive help and > the pico man page for more information. So there are Pine and Pico man pages. Here's what I want to know: Where can I get the man pages? I've looked all over, believe me. I found some text documents, but not true man pages. Thanks, Mike Michael B. Miller, M.S., Ph.D., M.P.E. Department of Psychology 210 McAlester Hall University of Missouri--Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 Phone: (573) 882-5671 Fax: (573) 882-7710 e-mail: mbmiller@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu web: http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 10:52:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA16547 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 10:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA01196; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 10:51:58 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA18758; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 10:51:14 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA15838 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 10:48:50 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA20996 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 10:48:50 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id KAA19448 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 10:48:48 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA24821; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 12:48:28 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 12:48:28 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: changing X-sender in header MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm attempting to signoff from a mailing list and I'm having a problem. The computer I'm subscribed from has two names, and I'm subscribed under one of those names. When I change my user-domain to the name I'm subscribed under, you'd think the listserv program would let me signoff. It doesn't. The reason, apparently, is that there is another line in the header called x-sender that gives the other name of the computer. Listserv notices this, ignores the From: field, and tells me that I'm not subscribed, so I can't possibly signoff! Is there any way to make it so that I can force Pine to either leave off x-sender (and sender), or to include the address I want in the x-sender field? It seems easy enough but I haven't been able to figure it out. Thanks much, Mike ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 12:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA09683 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 12:27:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA20508; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 12:27:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA22115; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 12:26:29 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA21644 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 12:23:32 -0700 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA22896 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 12:23:31 -0700 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA21181 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 14:23:30 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 14:23:29 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: man pages are in the distribution (was: PINE-INFO digest 385) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >Subject: Re: PINE-INFO digest 385 >From: Mike Miller >Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 11:30:51 -0500 (CDT) >Where can I get the man pages? I've looked all over, believe me. Look in the distribution. Explode your digests before replying in the future, please. Use "burst" or something similar. Or at least use a descriptive Subject. ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 14:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA18616 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 14:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA21808; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 14:40:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA15052; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 14:33:16 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA17484 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 14:30:45 -0700 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA10255 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 14:30:44 -0700 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA22419 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 16:30:42 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 16:30:42 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: changing X-sender in header In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Mike Miller >Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 12:48:28 -0500 (CDT) >I'm attempting to signoff from a mailing list and I'm having a problem. The >computer I'm subscribed from has two names, and I'm subscribed under one of >those names. When I change my user-domain to the name I'm subscribed under, >you'd think the listserv program would let me signoff. It doesn't. This is a job for the list owner. If the server really is LISTSERV, typically the list owner's alias is listname-request. If the server is Majordomo or ListProc, it's owner-listname. (Majordomo often uses listname-request as an alias to send automated commands to the server.) Some servers improperly use listname-owner. Look at the Sender header the next time you get a message from the list. Often, that's set to the list owner alias. >The reason, apparently, is that there is another line in the header called >x-sender that gives the other name of the computer. Listserv notices this, >ignores the From: field, and tells me that I'm not subscribed, so I can't >possibly signoff! >Is there any way to make it so that I can force Pine to either leave off >x-sender (and sender), or to include the address I want in the x-sender field? That's added when it's been handed off to the Mail Transport Agent. It hasn't been added by pine. >It seems easy enough but I haven't been able to figure it out. You'd need privileges over the configuration of the MTA. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 19:51:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA16019 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 19:51:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA24888; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 19:51:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA00618; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 19:50:29 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA38492 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 19:47:51 -0700 Received: from md2.vsnl.net.in (md2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.6.20]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA22783 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 19:47:48 -0700 Received: from localhost (ramchand@localhost) by md2.vsnl.net.in (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA32690 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:27:19 +0530 (IST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:27:19 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "RAMACHANDRAN \"CHIDAMBARAM\"" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Change order of Menu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To: Pine discussion Forum >From :Ramchandran.Chidambaram.Iyer Sir, I do not find any provision to go to Main menu after I complete "Compose" menu. I have to disconnect and connect again to continue. I generally finish other operations and come to 'C' at the last. If there is any other method, pl advise.Ramachandran ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 07:50:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA29569 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 07:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA15065; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 07:50:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA03395; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 07:48:33 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA66572 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 07:46:05 -0700 Received: from mx.nada.kth.se (mx.nada.kth.se [130.237.222.161]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA01606 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 07:46:04 -0700 Received: from staff.nada.kth.se (staff.nada.kth.se [130.237.225.70]) by mx.nada.kth.se (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA02656 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 16:46:03 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 16:46:02 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Peter Svanberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: IMAP incompatibilities 3.96-->4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Given a folder collection defined as folder-collections=Spara mail/f/spara/[], imap-test {mail3.nada.kth.se/Debug}[], : : the second collection expands well i Pine 3.96 but gives a folder list containing only "INBOX." in Pine 4.00. Choosing that folder gives [Now in EMPTY directory: {mail3.nada.kth.se/Debug}INBOX.] The server is Cyrus v1.5.10. Turning on enable-lame-list-mode makes it expand, but now with two versions of each object: with and without a trailing ".". For mailboxes it works to open the non-dot version but to go down a directory you must open the trailing-dot-version. What's up? Still disagreements about name handling in IMAP servers? /Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA30556 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:00:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA16971; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:00:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA14083; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:58:57 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA76246 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:56:47 -0700 Received: from GroupWise.Kean.Edu (GroupWise.Kean.Edu [131.125.1.200]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA11675 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:56:46 -0700 Received: from Kdomain1-Message_Server by GroupWise.Kean.Edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:52:49 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:52:21 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Paul Yahnig" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: IMAP problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have installe dthe IMAP 4.1. It works fine, but with one problem. When = a user connects the first time and gets their mail, it will give them = everything from their .login to files. It will also show the mail. How = can I turn off the whole directory listing. Thanks for your help, Paul Yahnig -------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul. Yahnig =20 Sr. Systems Administrator Kean University ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA31654 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA18973; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:01:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA16967; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:59:54 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA71980 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:57:36 -0700 Received: from titan.apieron.com (root@[207.225.232.200]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA18590 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:57:36 -0700 Received: from titan (listmail@titan [207.225.232.200]) by titan.apieron.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA26330 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:57:26 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Sean Chittenden To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: IMAP problems... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: listmail@titan.apieron.com X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN You're problem lies on the client. Change the directory of the incoming mail folders to: mail/ For OE, its under the Advanced tab. That works if you're using Outlook Express, Outlook 98, and Netscape's mail client. I hope that solves your problem. --Sean On Mon, 20 Jul 1998, Paul Yahnig wrote: > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:52:21 -0400 > From: Paul Yahnig > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: IMAP problems > > I have installe dthe IMAP 4.1. It works fine, but with one problem. When a user connects the first time and gets their mail, it will give them everything from their .login to files. It will also show the mail. How can I turn off the whole directory listing. > Thanks for your help, > Paul Yahnig > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Paul. Yahnig > Sr. Systems Administrator > Kean University > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 13:17:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA21946 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 13:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA12196; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 13:17:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA25965; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 13:15:18 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA18930 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 13:12:38 -0700 Received: from rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl (root@rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl [148.81.15.15]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA08408 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 13:12:35 -0700 Received: from qrnik.knm.org.pl (root@ppp4-58.warszawa.tpnet.pl [195.205.246.58]) by rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA04436 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:12:26 +0200 Received: from localhost (qrczak@localhost) by qrnik.knm.org.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA16186 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:09:32 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:09:31 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Bug in Pine 4.00: Postpone and References MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Pine looses References: header field when resuming a postponed composition of a news article. -- __("< Marcin Kowalczyk * qrczak@knm.org.pl http://qrczak.home.ml.org/ \__/ GCS/M d- s+:-- a21 C+++>+++$ UL++>++++$ P+++ L++>++++$ E->++ W++ ^^ N+++ o? K? w(---) O? M- V? PS-- PE++ Y? PGP->+ t 5? X- R tv-- QRCZAK b+>++ DI D- G+ e>++++ h! r--%>++ y- [nie ma mnie 9-31 sierpnia] ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA08249 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:18:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA01973; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:18:20 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA11666; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:17:03 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA71088 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:14:41 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA05468 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:14:40 -0700 Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA19056; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:14:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA09123; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:13:10 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA87522 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 17:54:29 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA03965 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 17:54:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (mikes@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id RAA22721 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 17:54:27 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 17:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Seibel To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.01 now available MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: PINE-ANNOUNCE-owner@u.washington.edu X-To: Pine Announcement List X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System version 4.01. It is being released as a maintenance version of Pine 4.00 and contains little in terms of changes or enhancements from that version. However, it does contain an imapd immune to the recently discovered security holes as well as a few small changes based on early version 4.00 feedback. More specific information regarding this release can be found in the built-in release notes ("R" off the Main Menu), and via: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine and: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs As with any Pine release, it is important that you carefully test and determine for yourself that it performs suitably in your environment before placing it into production use. Source for the latest Pine release is available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz and precompiled binaries for the various systems we have direct access to are available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed Unfortunately, we're still not prepared to release a corresponding version of PC-Pine, but rest assured that we are working on it. Sincerely, The Pine Development Team ------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html ------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA19736 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:09:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA29484; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:09:46 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA17830; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:08:31 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA30096 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:06:18 -0700 Received: from fiveoaks.com (root@[206.58.85.201]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA07441 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:06:17 -0700 Received: from parr2.parr.com (parr2.parr.com [192.168.1.200]) by fiveoaks.com (8.9.0/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA18904 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:06:15 -0700 Received: from localhost (andym@localhost) by parr2.parr.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA352127 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:06:29 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:06:29 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Andy McNiece To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Print Files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Versions 3.96 and before of Pine generated print requests without automatically wrapping the lines. This was very useful in sending 132 column reports to a user and then simply letting them print the reports to a 132 column printer. Versions 4.00 and 4.01 appear to wrap the lines automatically. Is there any option to disable this? _____________________________________________________________________________ Andy McNiece, Parr Lumber Co. andym@parr.com 5630 Five Oaks Drive Phone 503-614-2525 Hillsboro, Oregon USA 97124 Fax 503-629-8635 ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA20677 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA00811; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:58:33 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA29549; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:56:31 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA63436 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:54:31 -0700 Received: from lhc.nlm.nih.gov (lhc.nlm.nih.gov [130.14.35.128]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA12436 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:54:31 -0700 Received: from ceb.nlm.nih.gov (ceb [130.14.35.127]) by lhc.nlm.nih.gov (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA24584 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:54:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from blackcomb.nlm.nih.gov by ceb.nlm.nih.gov (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA24741; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:54:29 -0400 Received: from blackcomb by blackcomb.nlm.nih.gov (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA13118; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:54:29 -0400 Message-Id: <199807211554.LAA13118@blackcomb.nlm.nih.gov> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 11:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Leif Neve Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Leif Neve To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Distribution list length constraint MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: 6zh65QdfMJPDF/NTzsNb7Q== X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I installed Pine-4.01 today hoping it would remove what seems like an artificial constraint on the number of entries one can have in an address book distribution list. No such luck, the limit is still there. I looked in the documentation for precisely what the limit is and how one might work around it but I couldn't find anything. Is the limit necessary? If so, is the only work-around to break up long lists into sub-lists and then use the sub-list names to make up the list? Thanks for any help. -Leif Neve ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 10:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA21991 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 10:30:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA03329; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 10:30:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA24557; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 10:28:11 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA56062 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 10:25:41 -0700 Received: from corellia.piett.com (h67.ryd.student.liu.se [130.236.239.67]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA30050 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 10:25:20 -0700 Received: from localhost (piett@localhost) by corellia.piett.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA01389 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 19:24:38 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 19:24:38 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Henrik Edlund To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: ATTN: Pine development team - quell-folder-internal-msg MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Mailing List X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN ATTN: Pine development team * Added feature to "quell-folder-internal-msg" Thanks! You are the best! Finally I can go back to use Pine again. -- Henrik Edlund http://www.piett.com/ "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Naturally they became heroes." Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA25705 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA27344; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:00:45 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA18553; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:59:13 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA27042 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:56:33 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA06572 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:56:32 -0700 Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA27117; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:51:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA21272; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:50:24 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA53316 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:40:50 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA29645 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:40:50 -0700 Received: from localhost (mikes@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id QAA19870 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:40:49 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Seibel To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.02 now available MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: PINE-ANNOUNCE-owner@u.washington.edu X-To: Pine Announcement List X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System version 4.02. This is intended as a maintenance release and provides only a small set of important fixes to the previous versions. OK, it looks like we tried to compress one too many changes into the version 4.01 update. With this release, the most heinous problems in the Pine 4 releases have been addressed. If you're using Pine 4, we strongly recommend that you upgrade to this release. Information on specific changes in this release can be found in the built-in release notes ("R" off the Main Menu), and via: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine and: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs As with any Pine release, it is important that you carefully test and determine for yourself that it performs suitably in your environment before placing it into production use. Source for the latest Pine release is available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz and precompiled binaries for the various systems we have direct access to are available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed Unfortunately, nothing's changed in the last 24 hours and we're still not prepared to release a corresponding version of PC-Pine, but rest assured that we are still working on it. Sincerely, The Pine Development Team ------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html ------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA30231 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA14812; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:45:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA20440; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:43:56 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA16404 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:41:56 -0700 Received: from neon.transmeta.com (neon-best.transmeta.com [206.184.214.10]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA10178 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:41:56 -0700 Received: from deepthought.transmeta.com (mailhost.transmeta.com [10.1.1.15]) by neon.transmeta.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA32651 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:38:52 -0700 Received: from marvin.transmeta.com (root@marvin.transmeta.com [10.1.27.210]) by deepthought.transmeta.com (8.8.8+spamcan/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09901 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:41:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.transmeta.com [127.0.0.1]) by marvin.transmeta.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA16551 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:41:55 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:41:55 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jauder Ho To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: thanks for 4.02 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: jauderho@marvin.transmeta.com X-BOFH-MOTD: Use vi not Emacs! X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN check-fast-recent works again! thanks. Now I'm just waiting for the expanded folders thingie. As a sidenote is there an easy way to remap the keys maybe a enable-elm-user-keys? I have a whole bunch of elm users to move to pine for imap and their main complaint is that pine is not elm (sorry, couldn't help that one) but their real complaint is that the keys aren't familiar. Thanks. --Jauder ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 19:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA30421 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 19:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA16367; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 19:44:02 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA15613; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 19:42:50 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA82008 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 19:40:48 -0700 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA17953 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 19:40:48 -0700 Received: from D-140-142-189-195.dhcp.washington.edu (D-140-142-189-195.dhcp.washington.edu [140.142.189.195]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id TAA22518; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 19:40:44 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 19:41:12 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: thanks for 4.02 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset = US-ASCII X-To: Jauder Ho X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thanks... Alas, Pine does not support remapping the keys. -teg On Tue, 21 Jul 1998, Jauder Ho wrote: > > > > check-fast-recent works again! thanks. Now I'm just waiting for > the expanded folders thingie. As a sidenote is there an easy way to remap > the keys maybe a enable-elm-user-keys? I have a whole bunch of elm users > to move to pine for imap and their main complaint is that pine is not elm > (sorry, couldn't help that one) but their real complaint is that the keys > aren't familiar. Thanks. > > --Jauder > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 20:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA31666 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 20:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA00458; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 20:27:41 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA25108; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 20:25:24 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA81966 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 20:23:27 -0700 Received: from news.mtu.edu (root@news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA02187 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 20:23:26 -0700 Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01154 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 23:23:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rock.me.mtu.edu (root@rock.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.31]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA12567 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 23:23:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hanky.me.mtu.edu (hanky.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.130]) by rock.me.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/mturelay-1.2) with SMTP id XAA09795 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 23:23:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 23:22:30 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edan Idzerda To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: thanks for 4.02 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: edan@hanky.me.mtu.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 21 Jul 1998, Terry Gray wrote: > Alas, Pine does not support remapping the keys. It would be a pain to do it right, wouldn't it? Maybe not too hard to hack it in, maybe if I'm bored sometime next century. :) > On Tue, 21 Jul 1998, Jauder Ho wrote: > > the expanded folders thingie. As a sidenote is there an easy way to remap > > the keys maybe a enable-elm-user-keys? I have a whole bunch of elm users > > to move to pine for imap and their main complaint is that pine is not elm > > (sorry, couldn't help that one) but their real complaint is that the keys > > aren't familiar. Thanks. Well, I can help a little. Being a Pine evangelist myself, I've written or helped to encourage elm --> pine conversions. I've made the two patches I've written available on the web. I'll be updating them more in the next couple days or so. enable-vi-keys maps 'j' to 'n' 'k' to 'p' '/' to 'w' It's not the cleanest patch because you lose Journal and Keyboard lock, but it's good enough for me. ctrlw Makes the "word erase" Ctrl-W work in the Composer; that is, when you are editing your Headers. elmtopine I encouraged my friend/student worker to write this. It converts Elm aliases to Pine aliases. I'll make it available once I've talked to him and worked out some issues concerning blowing away the existing .addressbook :) If you're interested, they are at: http://www.me.mtu.edu/~edan/pine Cheers. - edan -- Edan Idzerda System Administrator -- Michigan Technological University, Houghton MI USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 00:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA01487 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 00:34:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id AAA19740; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 00:34:33 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id AAA29633; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 00:33:34 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id AAA29600 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 00:31:29 -0700 Received: from neon.transmeta.com (neon-best.transmeta.com [206.184.214.10]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id AAA01431 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 00:31:28 -0700 Received: from deepthought.transmeta.com (mailhost.transmeta.com [10.1.1.15]) by neon.transmeta.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id AAA03105; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 00:28:23 -0700 Received: from calcium.transmeta.com (root@calcium.transmeta.com [10.1.27.54]) by deepthought.transmeta.com (8.8.8+spamcan/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA00329; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 00:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calcium.transmeta.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA00818; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 00:31:26 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 00:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jauder Ho To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: thanks for 4.02 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Edan Idzerda X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: jauderho@calcium.transmeta.com X-BOFH-MOTD: Use vi not Emacs! X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN awesome. I'll take a look at it tomorrow. --jauder On Tue, 21 Jul 1998, Edan Idzerda wrote: > > > On Tue, 21 Jul 1998, Terry Gray wrote: > > > Alas, Pine does not support remapping the keys. > > It would be a pain to do it right, wouldn't it? Maybe not too hard > to hack it in, maybe if I'm bored sometime next century. :) > > > > > On Tue, 21 Jul 1998, Jauder Ho wrote: > > > the expanded folders thingie. As a sidenote is there an easy way to remap > > > the keys maybe a enable-elm-user-keys? I have a whole bunch of elm users > > > to move to pine for imap and their main complaint is that pine is not elm > > > (sorry, couldn't help that one) but their real complaint is that the keys > > > aren't familiar. Thanks. > > Well, I can help a little. Being a Pine evangelist myself, I've > written or helped to encourage elm --> pine conversions. > > I've made the two patches I've written available on the web. I'll > be updating them more in the next couple days or so. > > enable-vi-keys > maps 'j' to 'n' > 'k' to 'p' > '/' to 'w' > > It's not the cleanest patch because you lose Journal and Keyboard > lock, but it's good enough for me. > > ctrlw > > Makes the "word erase" Ctrl-W work in the Composer; that is, > when you are editing your Headers. > > elmtopine > > I encouraged my friend/student worker to write this. It > converts Elm aliases to Pine aliases. I'll make it available > once I've talked to him and worked out some issues concerning > blowing away the existing .addressbook :) > > > If you're interested, they are at: > > http://www.me.mtu.edu/~edan/pine > > Cheers. > > - edan > > > -- > Edan Idzerda > System Administrator -- Michigan Technological University, Houghton MI USA > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 01:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA01352 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 01:15:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA20412; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 01:15:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA04402; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 01:14:02 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA35844 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 01:12:03 -0700 Received: from rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl (rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl [148.81.15.15]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA03085 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 01:11:59 -0700 Received: from qrnik.knm.org.pl (root@ppp4-220.warszawa.tpnet.pl [195.205.246.220]) by rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA25816 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 10:11:45 +0200 Received: from localhost (qrczak@localhost) by qrnik.knm.org.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA07991 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 09:07:28 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 09:07:28 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Updates as patches MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN It would be very nice if new Pine versions were also available as a patch to the previous version, as downloading over 2 MB through modem each time is expensive. Thanks in advance for 4.01 -> 4.02 patch. -- __("< Marcin Kowalczyk * qrczak@knm.org.pl http://qrczak.home.ml.org/ \__/ GCS/M d- s+:-- a21 C+++>+++$ UL++>++++$ P+++ L++>++++$ E->++ W++ ^^ N+++ o? K? w(---) O? M- V? PS-- PE++ Y? PGP->+ t 5? X- R tv-- QRCZAK b+>++ DI D- G+ e>++++ h! r--%>++ y- [nie ma mnie 9-31 sierpnia] ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 01:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA04359 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 01:48:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA04571; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 01:48:22 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA01280; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 01:47:17 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA18920 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 01:45:17 -0700 Received: from binky.de.uu.net (binky.de.uu.net [192.76.144.28]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA04175 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 01:45:15 -0700 Received: from gate1.ife-le.de (gate1.ife-le.de [194.115.104.202]:1353) by binky.de.uu.net with ESMTP (5.65+:003/3.0.2) for id KAA02491; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 10:41:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by gate1.ife-le.de with smtp (Exim 1.90 #2) for pine-info@u.washington.edu id 0yyuQP-0000GO-00; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 10:39:01 +0200 Message-Id: <0yyuQP-0000GO-00@ife-le.de> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 10:39:00 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rudolf Kompf To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Bug: Simultaneous save/move from 2 folders MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I had reported a similar error a day after pine4.00-release and this error remains in pine4.02. Desrciption: -- I have 1 read message in INBOX and several messages in my read-message-folder=sav-inbox/saved-messages. -- I have n+1 read messages in my folder filtered-incoming-mail/exim (n messages marked 'D') and several messages in mail/sav-exim/saved-exim. -- I'm in folder filtered-incoming-mail/exim and just type 'q'. Then Pine saves 1 message from filtered-incoming-mail/exim to mail/sav-exim/saved-exim, expunges n messages from filtered-incoming-mail/exim. I think Pine should save now the message from INBOX to sav-inbox/saved-messages and expunge the message from INBOX. But Pine exits with "Error saving to sav-inbox/saved-messages. Not all messages moved." And now the message from INBOX is duplicated: - Saved to sav-inbox/saved-messages - Remains in INBOX ================== The .pine-debug1 ends with the following lines: - completely_done_with_adrbks - expunge and close mail stream "/home/omega06/kompf/filtered-incoming-mail/exim" Want_to read: RETURN (13) same_stream: mail/sav-exim/saved-exim == /home/omega06/kompf/filtered-incoming-mail/exim same_stream: no dice same_stream: mail/sav-exim/saved-exim == /var/mail/kompf same_stream: no dice Want_to read: RETURN (13) mm_expunged(/home/omega06/kompf/filtered-incoming-mail/exim,1) mm_expunged(/home/omega06/kompf/filtered-incoming-mail/exim,1) mm_expunged(/home/omega06/kompf/filtered-incoming-mail/exim,1) mm_expunged(/home/omega06/kompf/filtered-incoming-mail/exim,1) mm_expunged(/home/omega06/kompf/filtered-incoming-mail/exim,1) mm_expunged(/home/omega06/kompf/filtered-incoming-mail/exim,1) mm_expunged(/home/omega06/kompf/filtered-incoming-mail/exim,1) mm_expunged(/home/omega06/kompf/filtered-incoming-mail/exim,1) mm_expunged(/home/omega06/kompf/filtered-incoming-mail/exim,1) mm_expunged(/home/omega06/kompf/filtered-incoming-mail/exim,1) mm_expunged(/home/omega06/kompf/filtered-incoming-mail/exim,1) mm_expunged(/home/omega06/kompf/filtered-incoming-mail/exim,1) mm_expunged(/home/omega06/kompf/filtered-incoming-mail/exim,1) mm_expunged(/home/omega06/kompf/filtered-incoming-mail/exim,1) mm_expunged(/home/omega06/kompf/filtered-incoming-mail/exim,1) mm_expunged(/home/omega06/kompf/filtered-incoming-mail/exim,1) mm_expunged(/home/omega06/kompf/filtered-incoming-mail/exim,1) mm_expunged(/home/omega06/kompf/filtered-incoming-mail/exim,1) mm_expunged(/home/omega06/kompf/filtered-incoming-mail/exim,1) mm_expunged(/home/omega06/kompf/filtered-incoming-mail/exim,1) mm_expunged(/home/omega06/kompf/filtered-incoming-mail/exim,1) === mm_exists(0,/home/omega06/kompf/filtered-incoming-mail/exim) called === IMAP 09:58:19 7/22 mm_log babble: Expunged 21 messages expunge and close mail stream "/var/mail/kompf" Want_to read: RETURN (13) same_stream: mail/sav-inbox/saved-messages == /var/mail/kompf same_stream: no dice same_stream: mail/sav-inbox/saved-messages == /var/mail/kompf same_stream: no dice about to end_tty_driver end_signals(0) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 02:08:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA31186 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 02:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA21384; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 02:08:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA01497; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 02:04:41 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA44090 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 02:02:47 -0700 Received: from neon.transmeta.com (neon-best.transmeta.com [206.184.214.10]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA04782 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 02:02:46 -0700 Received: from deepthought.transmeta.com (mailhost.transmeta.com [10.1.1.15]) by neon.transmeta.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id BAA03911 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 01:59:42 -0700 Received: from calcium.transmeta.com (root@calcium.transmeta.com [10.1.27.54]) by deepthought.transmeta.com (8.8.8+spamcan/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA10485 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 02:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calcium.transmeta.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA02072 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 02:02:45 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 02:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jauder Ho To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: broken in 4.02 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: jauderho@calcium.transmeta.com X-BOFH-MOTD: Use vi not Emacs! X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN still can use pine to go up directories... pilot exhibits the same problem under both solaris and linux. for solaris, truss pilot read(0, "\r", 1) = 1 write(1, "1B [ K", 3) = 3 write(1, "1B [ 7 4 ; 2 8 H1B [ 7 m".., 49) = 49 stat("/home", 0xEFFFEF88) = 0 open64("/home", O_RDONLY|O_NDELAY) = 3 fcntl(3, F_SETFD, 0x00000001) = 0 fstat64(3, 0xEFFFEE88) = 0 getdents64(3, 0x00077FF8, 1048) = 192 getdents64(3, 0x00077FF8, 1048) = 968 getdents64(3, 0x00077FF8, 1048) = 988 getdents64(3, 0x00077FF8, 1048) = 976 getdents64(3, 0x00077FF8, 1048) = 960 Incurred fault #6, FLTBOUNDS %pc = 0xEF74BADC siginfo: SIGSEGV SEGV_MAPERR addr=0x6E75E6F8 Received signal #11, SIGSEGV [default] siginfo: SIGSEGV SEGV_MAPERR addr=0x6E75E6F8 *** process killed *** for linux, strace pilot read(0, "\r", 1) = 1 write(1, "\33[K", 3) = 3 write(1, "\33[22;28H\33[7m[ Building file "..., 49) = 49 stat("/home", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat("/home", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 open("/home", O_RDONLY) = 6 fcntl(6, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 getdents(6, /* 6 entries */, 1024) = 100 getdents(1835627520, 0x807e258, 1024) = -1 EBADF (Bad file number) --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) --- +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++ if I go down a couple of dirs and then try to go up I get a little further for solaris lstat("/home/zongjian", 0xEFFFEF98) = 0 write(1, "1B [ 1 ; 1 H1B [ K1B [ 2".., 1024) = 1024 write(1, " i r ) a l g ".., 1024) = 1024 write(1, " r ) c a d m i u m ".., 1024) = 1024 write(1, " ( d i r ) d g a u d".., 1024) = 1024 write(1, " ( d i r ) h a".., 1024) = 1024 write(1, " h a n i u m ".., 1024) = 1024 Incurred fault #6, FLTBOUNDS %pc = 0xEF746030 siginfo: SIGSEGV SEGV_MAPERR addr=0x75728050 Received signal #11, SIGSEGV [default] siginfo: SIGSEGV SEGV_MAPERR addr=0x75728050 *** process killed *** for linux read(0, "\r", 1) = 1 write(1, "\33[K", 3) = 3 write(1, "\33[22;28H\33[7m[ Building file "..., 49) = 49 stat("/home", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 stat("/home", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 open("/home", O_RDONLY) = 6 fcntl(6, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 getdents(6, /* 6 entries */, 1024) = 100 getdents(1835627520, 0x807a420, 1024) = -1 EBADF (Bad file number) --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) --- +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++ Strange... I can only go down but not up :) --Jauder ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 07:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA28469 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 07:31:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA25496; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 07:31:55 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA06624; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 07:30:33 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA36046 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 07:27:43 -0700 Received: from fwns1.raleigh.ibm.com (fwns1d.raleigh.ibm.com [204.146.167.235]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA20012 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 07:27:42 -0700 Received: from rtpmail03.raleigh.ibm.com (rtpmail03.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.172.47]) by fwns1.raleigh.ibm.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/RTP-FW-1.2) with ESMTP id KAA18236 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 10:27:40 -0400 Received: from hobbes.dds.dfw.ibm.com (peterg@hobbes.dds.dfw.ibm.com [9.39.64.53]) by rtpmail03.raleigh.ibm.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/RTP-ral-1.1) with SMTP id KAA26038 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 10:27:41 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 09:27:04 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Peter Green To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: auto-move-read-msgs and archiving folders MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: peterg@hobbes.dds.dfw.ibm.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN [to pine-info mailing list and comp.mail.pine newsgroup] I used to archive a number of folders using these two options in 3.96. Without changing my .pinerc, this will not work in 4.02 out of the box, and I have no desire to use the hierarchical thingy. Here's the deal: * procmail sorts different mailing list mail into different folders: /home/peterg/incoming * a simple script looks at the files in incoming, determines which ones have new mail in them, and creates links to /home/peterg/mail which is my mail folder (for pine's purposes). This way, I only see the folders that have new mail in them. Here are the relevant parts of my .pinerc: inbox-path=/var/spool/mail/peterg ... incoming-folders= ... incoming-archive-folders=freshmeat /home/peterg/oldmail/freshmeat, misc /home/peterg/oldmail/misc, mail-list.inet-access /home/peterg/mail/.old/inet-access, (&c.) And auto-move-read-msgs is set. How can I make it archive the folders? Is this a bug or a known feature? Or, is there a more elegant solution with pine4? Thanks for the help! /pg ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 07:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA10699 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 07:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA09837; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 07:59:45 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA07429; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 07:58:35 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA19630 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 07:56:07 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA12762 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 07:56:06 -0700 Received: from uu7.psi.com (uu7.psi.com [38.8.39.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA09777 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 07:56:04 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uu7.psi.com (8.8.8/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) with UUCP id OAA28733 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 14:56:02 GMT Received: by jandr.com (8.6.13/200.19.1.1) id KAA17719; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 10:46:03 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 10:46:02 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe DiBenedetto To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PC Pine 3.96 addressbook (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: joed@jrmusic X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'll try this one again... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Greetings, I'm using PC Pine and it's working quite well except for one annoying problem: I can't access my personal and global addressbooks on my Unix smtp server. If I login to my smtp server directly and run Unix Pine, no problem. All other operations in PC Pine work perfectly. The error I get is: "No addressbook operations are possible". Is it me? Joe ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 08:13:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA11275 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 08:13:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA26266; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 08:13:12 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA11744; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 08:11:38 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA19456 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 08:08:58 -0700 Received: from romulus.bu.edu (ROMULUS.BU.EDU [128.197.20.102]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA14005 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 08:08:57 -0700 Received: from localhost (lars@localhost) by romulus.bu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/(BU-S-02/10/97-v1.0)) with SMTP id LAA07397; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 11:08:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 11:08:21 -0400 Reply-To: Lars Kellogg-Stedman Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Lars Kellogg-Stedman To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Serious pine 4.02 bugs In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Michael Seibel X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: romulus.bu.edu: lars owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Greetings, Given the recent spate of Pine releases I hesitate to bring this up, but there are two rather serious bugs in Pine 4.02: (1) Crashes during a 'select' command I wanted to move all of my pine-info email into a folder now that I've got a procmail for it set up. After the following keystrokes: ; t t pine-info (that's Select Text To pine-info) Pine exits immediately. This behavior is also apparent in Pine 4.01. (2) Broken MH folder handling I have my postponed-message folder set to "#mh/drafts". This has worked fine in the pass. However, since the release of Pine 4.0, attempts to compose a message yield the following error: [Can't open Postponed mailbox: #mh/drafts] However, the postpone command works just fine (and the mail is saved into the folder as expected). I'm using Pine on an SGI O2 running Irix 6.3 (recently patched). Please let me know what I can do to help -- these bugs are more than a minor inconvenience. Thanks, -- Lars -- Lars Kellogg-Stedman * lars@bu.edu * (617)353-8277 Office of Information Technology, Boston University From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 08:51:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA12003 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 08:51:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA27339; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 08:51:15 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA10065; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 08:49:31 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA52632 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 08:46:52 -0700 Received: from lcjdap.soroscj.ro (lcjdap.soroscj.ro [193.226.84.253]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA17802 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 08:46:27 -0700 Received: (qmail 2446 invoked by uid 723); 22 Jul 1998 15:58:37 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 18:58:37 +0300 (EEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: PINE list To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Viewing attached pictures with Pine 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Viewing attached pictures with Pine 4.00 Can anyone tell how can I use this feature? I inserted this line in the global pine 4.00 configuration file: image-viewer=/usr/bin/zgv ...but when I test this thing by trying to view and attached jpeg image the text console just flickers (kinda changes into graphic mode) but it becomes black a half a second and then is coming back to the text mode screen like nothing happened. No actually, I tryied againg and I can see that graphic mode image loading completion bar of zgv. But it won't display any message only comes back to text mode. When stopping this process with scroll lock I cand see [VIEWER command launched] [Decoding "Image, """ | |] [Displaying attachment ] and I can see a /usr/bin/zgv /tmp/img-JPE[some_number] I THINK: PERSONALLY I think that it is an encoding decoding problem (mime, uue, base64 - stuff like this...). I think pine is trying to feed zgv with raw 7 bit data :(((( Anyone manage to view images with pine 4.00? Is this a bug or...? ... I have to make an script that decodes images? That would be pretty much work to do... think and you'll agree... This would be a nice feature if it would work... ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 09:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA12868 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 09:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA28129; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 09:14:41 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA03694; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 09:11:57 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA65146 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 09:09:25 -0700 Received: from neviim.torah.org (neviim.torah.org [207.239.101.202]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA11661 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 09:09:23 -0700 Received: from localhost (brozen@localhost) by neviim.torah.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA11650 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:09:22 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 19:09:18 +0300 (IDT) Reply-To: Brock Rozen Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Brock Rozen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: UIDSTICKY in Pine 4.02 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Backup: Disable X-URL: http://www.torah.org/~brozen X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, This is what shows up in the debug file (level 9) when I load up Pine. d_q_status_message(Opening "INBOX" ) output_message({neviim.torah.org}INBOX : [UIDNOTSTICKY] Non-permanent unique identifiers: /home) STATUS cmd:0, max:6, min3 I've already done chmod 1777 on /var/spool/mail Any ideas? Thanks, -- ---------------------------------- | Brock Rozen | brozen@torah.org | ---------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA17060 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA18616; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:30:46 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA21913; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:27:16 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA10418 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:24:32 -0700 Received: from slip44.Mines.EDU (slip44.Mines.EDU [138.67.58.44]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA10317 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:24:26 -0700 Received: (from fenris@localhost) by slip44.Mines.EDU (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) id NAA12095 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 13:24:07 -0600 Message-Id: <199807221924.NAA12095@slip44.Mines.EDU> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 13:24:07 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Driscoll To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine tries to create INBOX on IMAP server? X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello all, I've been having trouble using PINE with the IMAP4r1 server I'm writing, and am unsure whether the fault lies with PINE or my understanding of RFC2060 (probably the latter). Anyways, here's the rundown. I've only implemented about half of the IMAP4rev1 features, but I figured it would be enough to test basic operations with a clients (logging in, mailbox listing, etc). So I compiled and installed PINE and tried to set it up for use with my IMAP server. However, I tried to (in PINE) save the collection I had entered and PINE contacted the server and issued these commands (taken from my log): Jul 22 11:58:44 ulfheim in.rshd[11892]: connect from localhost Jul 22 12:58:44 ulfheim imapd[11893]: normal read: [00000000 CAPABILITY] Jul 22 12:58:44 ulfheim imapd[11893]: normal read: [00000001 LOGIN test test] Jul 22 12:58:44 ulfheim imapd[11893]: normal read: [00000002 LIST "" ""] Jul 22 12:58:44 ulfheim imapd[11893]: normal read: [00000003 LOGOUT] Jul 22 11:58:46 ulfheim in.rshd[11900]: connect from localhost Jul 22 12:58:46 ulfheim imapd[11901]: normal read: [00000000 CAPABILITY] Jul 22 12:58:46 ulfheim imapd[11901]: normal read: [00000001 LOGIN test test] Jul 22 12:58:46 ulfheim imapd[11901]: normal read: [00000002 Create INBOX] Jul 22 12:58:46 ulfheim imapd[11901]: normal read: [00000003 LOGOUT] The command that I'm having trouble with is that second to last one, "Create INBOX". According to RFC2060, 6.3.3: ... It is an error to attempt to create INBOX or a mailbox with a name that refers to an extant mailbox. Any error in creation will return a tagged NO response. So my server generates " NO Tried to create INBOX" and PINE seems to take that as a fatal error and refuses to save my collection (The dialog "Tried to create INBOX" appears at the bottom of PINE's window, and I am left at the "Create new collection" screen). Here's what the client/server dialog actually looks like, simulated by telnet: S: * OK IMAP4rev1 Service Ready [Foomail 5.4.1] C: 00000000 CAPABILITY S: * CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 S: 00000000 OK Capability completed C: 00000001 LOGIN test test S: 00000001 OK User test logged in C: 00000002 LIST "" "" S: * LIST () "/" "" S: 00000002 OK List completed C: 00000003 LOGOUT S: * BYE Performing logout S: 00000003 OK Logout completed S: * OK IMAP4rev1 Service Ready [Foomail 5.4.1] C: 00000000 CAPABILITY S: * CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 S: 00000000 OK Capability completed C: 00000001 LOGIN test test S: 00000001 OK User test logged in C: 00000002 Create INBOX <=== Here is the line S: 00000002 NO Tried to create INBOX C: 00000003 LOGOUT S: * BYE Performing logout S: 00000003 OK Logout completed So, does anyone have any idea what is going on, and how I can remain true to RFC2060 and have PINE work with my server at the same time? By the way, this is PINE 4.00 with LDAP support newly compiled on a Linux glibc-2 box. Thanks for your time, Michael Driscoll ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA17269 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:46:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA19046; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:45:57 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA26673; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:42:17 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA62812 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:40:17 -0700 Received: from wencor.com (root@wencor.com [207.135.128.153]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA22388 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:40:15 -0700 Received: from marvin.wencor.com (marvin.wencor.com [172.16.59.1]) by wencor.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA29110 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 12:42:48 -0600 Received: from localhost by marvin.wencor.com (8.6.14/200.17.1.3) id NAA04339; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 13:37:24 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 13:37:24 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Chris Wood To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: DG/UX and Pine 4.0x/Imap 4.0x MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Has anyone successfully compiled Pine 4.0x or Imap 4.0x on dg/ux 4.11mu03 or higher? (I'm running 4.20mu02, DG Aviion 5900 Intel). -=-=-=-=-=- Chris Wood 801-489-2097 [cwood@wencor.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 14:50:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA19942 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 14:50:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA07600; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 14:50:27 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA04259; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 14:47:34 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA14060 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 14:45:00 -0700 Received: from wfsg.com (bart.wfsg.com [208.227.187.181]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA03354 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 14:45:00 -0700 Received: from [192.1.6.125] by bart.wfsg.com id aa11233; 22 Jul 98 14:35 PDT Received: by HANSENII with Microsoft Mail id <01BDB57D.4556FC70@HANSENII>; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 14:30:27 -0700 Message-Id: <01BDB57D.4556FC70@HANSENII> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 14:33:40 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Dave Hansen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Browse LDAP server in Pine 4.02 X-To: "'pine-info@u.washington.edu'" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is it possible to browse an LDAP server in Pine? I've included the LDAP 3.3 from UM and compiled, configured the ldap server in conf files and can search by partial name: i.e. "dav" returns all Dave and Davids in the list. I'm told that Netscape and possibly other ldap clients can browse but can Pine? -- Dave Hansen 503 952 7322 dave.hansen@wfsg.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA20069 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA22873; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 14:59:59 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA00812; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 14:57:41 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA52616 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 14:55:34 -0700 Received: from mail4.aracnet.com (root@mail4.aracnet.com [205.159.88.46]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA04506 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 14:55:33 -0700 Received: from shell2.aracnet.com (IDENT:vampire@shell2.aracnet.com [205.159.88.20]) by mail4.aracnet.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA16198; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 14:56:12 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 14:55:30 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jordy Simpson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: FIX!!! -- The annoying FOLDER INTERNAL DATA message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: vampire@shell2.aracnet.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Greetings! I looked in the list archives, and it seems that noone has solved this problem yet. Since I did, I figured I'd join the list and send my solution out to y'all. To get rid of that annoying FOLDER INTERNAL DATA message that is screwing up everything from BitchX to asmail to Microsoft Outlook 98, take a look at the following (you'll have to recompile Pine, but it's worth it): source file: pine4.02/pine/init.c Original Version: ----------------- /* * Turn on quelling of pseudo message. */ if(F_ON(F_QUELL_INTERNAL_MSG,ps_global)) mail_parameters(NULL, SET_USERHASNOLIFE, (void *) 1); Fixed Version: ----------------- /* * Turn on quelling of pseudo message. */ #if(F_ON(F_QUELL_INTERNAL_MSG,ps_global)) mail_parameters(NULL, SET_USERHASNOLIFE, (void *) 1); Isn't it nice how one little comment symbol fixes a major annoyance? :-) I've been sending and receiving mail with Pine 4.02 and this fix for several hours without any more of those messages. I've even accessed my spool with version 3.96 again, then back to 4.02, with no problems. I've tried sending and receiving mail with Eudora, Outlook, Outlook Express, Pine, Fetchmail, and Netscape Mail, and they all work fine, with no more internal data messages. If anyone can find a more "official" way to do it, great! But until then, this should suffice. -Jordy --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jordy Simpson | System Operator, BOFH vampire@violin.aracnet.com | Aracnet Internet Services vampire@rubyred.com | http://www.aracnet.com/ http://www.rubyred.com/ | 503-626-7696 -=+=- 360-696-9574 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- __ _ / / (_)__ __ ____ __ / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / . . . t h e c h o i c e o f a /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ G N U g e n e r a t i o n . . . ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA05670 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA08236; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:14:18 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA05943; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:12:58 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA16478 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:11:00 -0700 Received: from lcjdap.soroscj.ro (lcjdap.soroscj.ro [193.226.84.253]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id PAA04487 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:10:54 -0700 Received: (qmail 8302 invoked by uid 723); 22 Jul 1998 22:23:12 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 01:23:12 +0300 (EEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: PINE list To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: [>UID sequence invalid<] In-Reply-To: <199807221924.NAA12095@slip44.Mines.EDU> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN When doing su - myuser from root and I want to read my mail it says sometimes... [>UID sequence invalid<] but it ins't a critical one... bug I mean... ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:37:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA20924 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:37:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA23979; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:37:49 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA06577; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:36:11 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA62948 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:34:09 -0700 Received: from callisto.si.usherb.ca (callisto.si.USherb.ca [132.210.10.6]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id PAA08819 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:34:08 -0700 Received: from spc-isp-mtl-uas-20-34.sprint.ca by callisto.si.usherb.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA61814; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 18:34:04 -0400 Message-Id: <000101bdb5c0$f69eea40$eb1b67d1@G15-313A.residence.usherb.ca> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 18:35:01 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Fabian Rodriguez" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Browse LDAP server in Pine 4.02 In-Reply-To: <01BDB57D.4556FC70@HANSENII> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-To: "Dave Hansen" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi Dave, I recently found out that Bigfoot and Yahoo white pages among 7 others are pre-configured in Outlook 98 as LDAP servers and you can add any LDAP directory service too. Pretty cool, huh? I guess its getting more support, and I would like to see an answer to your question about using LDAP services with PINE, and also if there are any converters to import adress books into PINE/from PINE ? Fabian Rodriguez - ICQ: 1485512 - http://www.exocom.qc.ca/magicfab Exocom Consulting, Sherbrooke, QC, Canada - Spanish, French and English =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Visitez LE magazine électronique des étudiants: http://www.j1k2r1.qc.ca -----Original Message----- From: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu [mailto:PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu]On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 1998 5:34 PM To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Browse LDAP server in Pine 4.02 Is it possible to browse an LDAP server in Pine? I've included the LDAP 3.3 from UM and compiled, configured the ldap server in conf files and can search by partial name: i.e. "dav" returns all Dave and Davids in the list. I'm told that Netscape and possibly other ldap clients can browse but can Pine? -- Dave Hansen 503 952 7322 dave.hansen@wfsg.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 16:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA13265 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 16:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA09340; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 16:01:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA08195; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:58:18 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA52578 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:56:08 -0700 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA24858 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:56:07 -0700 Received: from D-140-142-110-126.dhcp2.washington.edu (D-140-142-110-126.dhcp2.washington.edu [140.142.110.126]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id PAA21115; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:55:57 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:56:28 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: FIX!!! -- The annoying FOLDER INTERNAL DATA message In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset = US-ASCII X-To: Jordy Simpson X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Jordy, One of us is definitely missing something... > If anyone can find a more "official" way to do it, great! But until then, > this should suffice. Might not the "official" way to do it be just setting the quell-folder-internal-msg feature via the config screen?? Or are you saying that doesn't work for you? You *did* read the release notes for 4.01 or 4.02 before trying to modify it, right? -teg On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Jordy Simpson wrote: > Greetings! > > I looked in the list archives, and it seems that noone has solved this > problem yet. Since I did, I figured I'd join the list and send my > solution out to y'all. > > To get rid of that annoying FOLDER INTERNAL DATA message that is screwing > up everything from BitchX to asmail to Microsoft Outlook 98, take a look > at the following (you'll have to recompile Pine, but it's worth it): > > source file: pine4.02/pine/init.c > > Original Version: > ----------------- > /* > * Turn on quelling of pseudo message. > */ > if(F_ON(F_QUELL_INTERNAL_MSG,ps_global)) > mail_parameters(NULL, SET_USERHASNOLIFE, (void *) 1); > > Fixed Version: > ----------------- > /* > * Turn on quelling of pseudo message. > */ > #if(F_ON(F_QUELL_INTERNAL_MSG,ps_global)) > mail_parameters(NULL, SET_USERHASNOLIFE, (void *) 1); > > Isn't it nice how one little comment symbol fixes a major annoyance? :-) > > I've been sending and receiving mail with Pine 4.02 and this fix for > several hours without any more of those messages. I've even accessed my > spool with version 3.96 again, then back to 4.02, with no problems. I've > tried sending and receiving mail with Eudora, Outlook, Outlook Express, > Pine, Fetchmail, and Netscape Mail, and they all work fine, with > no more internal data messages. > > If anyone can find a more "official" way to do it, great! But until then, > this should suffice. > > -Jordy > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Jordy Simpson | System Operator, BOFH > vampire@violin.aracnet.com | Aracnet Internet Services > vampire@rubyred.com | http://www.aracnet.com/ > http://www.rubyred.com/ | 503-626-7696 -=+=- 360-696-9574 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > __ _ > / / (_)__ __ ____ __ > / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / . . . t h e c h o i c e o f a > /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ G N U g e n e r a t i o n . . . > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 17:51:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA22703 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 17:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA12004; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 17:51:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA09569; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 17:49:53 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA62808 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 17:47:11 -0700 Received: from jim.southcom.com.au (jim@jim.southcom.com.au [203.60.16.154]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA19115 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 17:47:08 -0700 Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by jim.southcom.com.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA08494 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:50:41 +1000 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 10:50:41 +1000 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: James Woodward To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: FIX!!! -- The annoying FOLDER INTERNAL DATA message In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Jordy Simpson wrote: > Greetings! > > I looked in the list archives, and it seems that noone has solved this > problem yet. Since I did, I figured I'd join the list and send my > solution out to y'all. > > To get rid of that annoying FOLDER INTERNAL DATA message that is screwing > up everything from BitchX to asmail to Microsoft Outlook 98, take a look > at the following (you'll have to recompile Pine, but it's worth it): > Isn't it nice how one little comment symbol fixes a major annoyance? :-) > > If anyone can find a more "official" way to do it, great! But until then, > this should suffice. I turned that option off by selecting 'quell-folder-internal-msg' from the setup/config menu off the main menu... this fixed the problem without hacking and rebuilding the source of 4.02. well, at least it did for me. Regards, Jim. _____________________________________________________________________________ __ name: james woodward (jim) / . _ _ email: jim@jim.southcom.com.au, jim@woodward.ml.org (_/ / / \/ ) www: http://www.woodward.ml.org, http://www.mailbag.ml.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 22:44:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA16505 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 22:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA15678; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 22:44:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA11745; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 22:43:21 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA71024 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 22:40:57 -0700 Received: from sh.diac.com (shell.diac.com [209.64.40.12]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA05332 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 22:40:56 -0700 Received: from localhost (ekwall2@localhost) by sh.diac.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA02687; Wed, 22 Jul 1998 23:37:27 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 23:37:27 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Ekwall To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: FIX!!! -- The annoying FOLDER INTERNAL DATA message In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: James Woodward X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sh.diac.com: ekwall2 owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, James Woodward wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Jordy Simpson wrote: (sorry no -snip's- it's all important :) > Greetings! > > I looked in the list archives, and it seems that noone has solved this > problem yet. Since I did, I figured I'd join the list and send my > solution out to y'all. > > To get rid of that annoying FOLDER INTERNAL DATA message that is screwing > up everything from BitchX to asmail to Microsoft Outlook 98, take a look > at the following (you'll have to recompile Pine, but it's worth it): > Isn't it nice how one little comment symbol fixes a major annoyance? :-) > > If anyone can find a more "official" way to do it, great! But until then, > this should suffice. I turned that option off by selecting 'quell-folder-internal-msg' from the setup/config menu off the main menu... this fixed the problem without hacking and rebuilding the source of 4.02. well, at least it did for me. Regards, Jim. _____________________________________________________________________________ __ name: james woodward (jim) / . _ _ email: jim@jim.southcom.com.au, jim@woodward.ml.org (_/ / / \/ ) www: http://www.woodward.ml.org, http://www.mailbag.ml.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Good job Gentleman!! Strange, the (version last/next):pine-info@u.washington.edu never mentioned this as either Added since 3.96v or what it did or didn't DO if invoked..But, WE all "Saw" The Problem 8^) No ONE had an answer, EVEYONE was concerned and I think _not_ Pleased! IMO, Someone mention recently on the list that 'we' can't convert or keep up with the NEW versions fast enough... ANOTHER someone here mentioned on the list that bugs were just found in a way earlier version.. no biggies, but THERE all the same ! (sigh) :{ ------------------ My thought (suggestion:) is to extend RFC-Pine(next) All "brilliant" additions for a minimual amount of time, beta test, (say at least 1-3 month minimually, FSSTND is rolling in their ascii/grave that it is that short of a suggested TIME.) Patches (sigh) should be released to VERSIONS, and NOT ever to be considered a NEW VERSION to cover ones tracks/oops. We don't bury our dead with faulty coding and a higher v# like Big BIll! The popularity and STRENGTH of pine is (hopefully we'll never have to say WAS), *IS* Its transportabilty between more platforms than any other, its ability to be a solid and trusted Editor by SO's, Admin's and 'secretaries' and (hey:) normal users around the world.. etc..etc.etc. ------------------- Some functions while fun/silly should be voted on and and not included by concensus of USERS of Pine. (period).. (example, graphics are fun (i have a tv,) and html is quick,click,go (i have a computer:)) BUT unless it works ------- I'll rest my case. Again, congratulations! Jim & Jordy (red/HATS OFF TO YOU BOTH!) Fixes should be from within, not from well.. H*ck, you know :) -=se=- steve ( i like 'em when they work :) ekwall From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 05:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA22806 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 05:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA20637; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 05:17:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA23767; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 05:14:20 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA21752 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 05:12:13 -0700 Received: from binky.de.uu.net (binky.de.uu.net [192.76.144.28]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA17267 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 05:12:12 -0700 Received: from gate1.ife-le.de (gate1.ife-le.de [194.115.104.202]:1975) by binky.de.uu.net with ESMTP (5.65+:003/3.0.2) for id OAA17769; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:08:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by gate1.ife-le.de with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #2) for pine-info@u.washington.edu id 0yzKAH-0004L1-00; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:08:05 +0200 Received: with local-smtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for pine-info@u.washington.edu id 0yzKAH-0002PD-00; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:08:05 +0200 Message-Id: <0yzKAH-0004L1-00@ife-le.de> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:08:04 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rudolf Kompf To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Bug: Simultaneous save/move from 2 folders MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Pine4.0x: I reported this error 17 Jul 1998 10:41:47 +0200 (MET DST) and 22 Jul 1998 10:39:00 +0200 (MET DST). Short description see below. Now i explored the effect on 2 systems in parallel: ================================================== ** The imapd is on a Solaris-Box. pine, imapd etc. built with gs4. ** I get the error only using pine on the Solaris-box (all folders and INBOX are local) Here is the pine-debug for this (debuglevel 8): ---- QUIT SCREEN ---- Want_to read: RETURN (13) - completely_done_with_adrbks - expunge and close mail stream "/home/omega06/kompf/mail/sav-inbox/saved-messages-may-1998" Want_to read: RETURN (13) mm_expunged(/home/omega06/kompf/mail/sav-inbox/saved-messages-may-1998,85) === mm_exists(135,/home/omega06/kompf/mail/sav-inbox/saved-messages-may-1998) called === IMAP 12:37:56 7/23 mm_log babble: Expunged 1 messages expunge and close mail stream "/var/mail/kompf" Want_to read: RETURN (13) same_stream: mail/sav-inbox/saved-messages == /var/mail/kompf same_stream: no dice same_stream: mail/sav-inbox/saved-messages == /var/mail/kompf same_stream: no dice about to end_tty_driver end_signals(0) ** I built pine on a Linux-box with lnx. Then I execute the same actions as on the Solaris-Box (but all folders and INBOX are remote). No error, expunge from saved-messages-may-1998 is performed, then the message from INBOX is saved and expunged. Here is the pine-debug for this (debuglevel 8): ---- QUIT SCREEN ---- Want_to read: RETURN (13) - completely_done_with_adrbks - expunge and close mail stream "{omega.ife-le.de/imap/user=kompf}mail/sav-inbox/saved-messages-may-1998" Want_to read: RETURN (13) mm_expunged({omega.ife-le.de/imap/user=kompf}mail/sav-inbox/saved-messages-may-1998,88) IMAP 12:39:19 7/23 mm_log babble: Expunged 1 messages IMAP mm_notify bye : {omega.ife-le.de/imap/user=kompf}mail/sav-inbox/saved-messages-may-1998 (mailstream) : omega.ife-le.de IMAP4rev1 server terminating connection expunge and close mail stream "{omega.ife-le.de/imap/user=kompf}INBOX" Want_to read: RETURN (13) same_stream: {omega}mail/sav-inbox/saved-messages == {omega.ife-le.de/imap/user=kompf}INBOX Want_to read: RETURN (13) mm_expunged({omega.ife-le.de/imap/user=kompf}INBOX,1) IMAP 12:39:24 7/23 mm_log babble: Expunged 1 messages IMAP mm_notify bye : {omega.ife-le.de/imap/user=kompf}INBOX (inboxstream) : omega.ife-le.de IMAP4rev1 server terminating connection about to end_tty_driver end_signals(0) Description of test-actions (the local case): ============================================ -- I have 1 read message in INBOX and several messages in my read-message-folder=sav-inbox/saved-messages. -- I have 1 read messages in my folder mail/sav-inbox/saved-messages-may-1998 -- I'm in folder mail/sav-inbox/saved-messages-may-1998, type 'd' for this message and then type 'q'. Then Pine expunges 1 msg from mail/sav-inbox/saved-messages-may-1998. I think Pine should save now the message from INBOX to sav-inbox/saved-messages and expunge the message from INBOX. But Pine exits with "Error saving to sav-inbox/saved-messages. Not all messages moved." And now the message from INBOX is duplicated: - Saved to sav-inbox/saved-messages - Remains in INBOX -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 06:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA00099 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 06:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA07037; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 06:52:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA21198; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 06:50:18 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA34444 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 06:48:14 -0700 Received: from math.fu-berlin.de (qmailr@leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de [160.45.40.10]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id GAA22321 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 06:48:11 -0700 Received: (qmail 7505 invoked from network); 23 Jul 1998 13:48:04 -0000 Received: from petzval.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.12) by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de with SMTP; 23 Jul 1998 13:48:04 -0000 Received: by petzval.math.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.2.0.98) id ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:48:03 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <19980723154802.A15619@math.fu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:48:02 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Stucki To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: FIX!!! -- The annoying FOLDER INTERNAL DATA message In-Reply-To: ; from Steve Ekwall on Wed, Jul 22, 1998 at 11:37:27PM -0600 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Does the fix of Pine4.02 plus 'quelling' the annoying Message also stop IMAP from generating the same thing? Or is this message ONLY generated by pine (but via imap) ? I have users, who access Mail by pine 'here' and by something else 'from home' getting all those biffer/shell/mailtool mismatches as mentioned in this thread before. Stucki -- Christoph von Stuckrad * * | talk to | \ Freie Universitaet Berlin |/_* | nickname | ...!unido!fub!leibniz!stucki| Fachbereich Mathematik, EDV |\ * | 'stucki' | Tel:+49 30 838-75459 | Arnimallee 2-6/14195 Berlin * * | on IRC | Fax:+49 30 838-75454 / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA03553 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:44:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA25867; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:43:58 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA06771; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:42:18 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA62432 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:39:57 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA22721 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:39:56 -0700 Received: from localhost (hubert@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id JAA21547; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:39:54 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 09:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Browse LDAP server in Pine 4.02 In-Reply-To: <01BDB57D.4556FC70@HANSENII> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Dave Hansen X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN No, Pine doesn't have that capability. The closest it comes is if you go into the Address book screen and enter the directory server from there. Pine can do complicated LDAP searches (by using the ^T To complex search command) but it isn't setup to do browsing. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Dave Hansen wrote: > Is it possible to browse an LDAP server in Pine? I've included the LDAP > 3.3 from UM and compiled, configured the ldap server in conf files and can > search by partial name: i.e. "dav" returns all Dave and Davids in the list. > > I'm told that Netscape and possibly other ldap clients can browse but can > Pine? > > -- > Dave Hansen > 503 952 7322 > dave.hansen@wfsg.com > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:43:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA05302 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:43:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA29208; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:43:37 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA09735; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:38:16 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA19540 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:35:32 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA19320 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:35:31 -0700 Received: from localhost (hubert@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id LAA24082 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:35:30 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:35:29 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: broken in 4.02 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN We haven't been able to reproduce this problem or understand what is happening. I am guessing that it is happening on Linux and Solaris systems newer than the ones we have available. We have Linux 2.0.33 and Solaris 5.4. From Jauder's traces it looks like the problem is happening in the opendir call in getfnames in pico/pico_os.c. If someone has a system capable of reproducing the problem and you can step through it to see what's happening, please let us know what the problem is! Thanks. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Jauder Ho wrote: > > > still can use pine to go up directories... pilot exhibits the same problem > under both solaris and linux. > > for solaris, truss pilot > read(0, "\r", 1) = 1 > write(1, "1B [ K", 3) = 3 > write(1, "1B [ 7 4 ; 2 8 H1B [ 7 m".., 49) = 49 > stat("/home", 0xEFFFEF88) = 0 > open64("/home", O_RDONLY|O_NDELAY) = 3 > fcntl(3, F_SETFD, 0x00000001) = 0 > fstat64(3, 0xEFFFEE88) = 0 > getdents64(3, 0x00077FF8, 1048) = 192 > getdents64(3, 0x00077FF8, 1048) = 968 > getdents64(3, 0x00077FF8, 1048) = 988 > getdents64(3, 0x00077FF8, 1048) = 976 > getdents64(3, 0x00077FF8, 1048) = 960 > Incurred fault #6, FLTBOUNDS %pc = 0xEF74BADC > siginfo: SIGSEGV SEGV_MAPERR addr=0x6E75E6F8 > Received signal #11, SIGSEGV [default] > siginfo: SIGSEGV SEGV_MAPERR addr=0x6E75E6F8 > *** process killed *** > > for linux, strace pilot > > read(0, "\r", 1) = 1 > write(1, "\33[K", 3) = 3 > write(1, "\33[22;28H\33[7m[ Building file "..., 49) = 49 > stat("/home", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 > stat("/home", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 > open("/home", O_RDONLY) = 6 > fcntl(6, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 > getdents(6, /* 6 entries */, 1024) = 100 > getdents(1835627520, 0x807e258, 1024) = -1 EBADF (Bad file number) > --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) --- > +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++ > > if I go down a couple of dirs and then try to go up I get a little further > > for solaris > lstat("/home/zongjian", 0xEFFFEF98) = 0 > write(1, "1B [ 1 ; 1 H1B [ K1B [ 2".., 1024) = 1024 > write(1, " i r ) a l g ".., 1024) = 1024 > write(1, " r ) c a d m i u m ".., 1024) = 1024 > write(1, " ( d i r ) d g a u d".., 1024) = 1024 > write(1, " ( d i r ) h a".., 1024) = 1024 > write(1, " h a n i u m ".., 1024) = 1024 > Incurred fault #6, FLTBOUNDS %pc = 0xEF746030 > siginfo: SIGSEGV SEGV_MAPERR addr=0x75728050 > Received signal #11, SIGSEGV [default] > siginfo: SIGSEGV SEGV_MAPERR addr=0x75728050 > *** process killed *** > > for linux > read(0, "\r", 1) = 1 > write(1, "\33[K", 3) = 3 > write(1, "\33[22;28H\33[7m[ Building file "..., 49) = 49 > stat("/home", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 > stat("/home", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 > open("/home", O_RDONLY) = 6 > fcntl(6, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 > getdents(6, /* 6 entries */, 1024) = 100 > getdents(1835627520, 0x807a420, 1024) = -1 EBADF (Bad file number) > --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) --- > +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++ > > Strange... I can only go down but not up :) > > --Jauder > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA05424 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA15561; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:59:19 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA15849; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:56:43 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA57930 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:53:41 -0700 Received: from news.mtu.edu (root@news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA21458 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:53:40 -0700 Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25875; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:53:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rock.me.mtu.edu (root@rock.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.31]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29184; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:53:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hanky.me.mtu.edu (hanky.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.130]) by rock.me.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/mturelay-1.2) with SMTP id OAA29759; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:53:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:52:39 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edan Idzerda To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: broken in 4.02 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Steve Hubert X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: edan@hanky.me.mtu.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, Steve Hubert wrote: > We haven't been able to reproduce this problem or understand what is > happening. I am guessing that it is happening on Linux and Solaris systems > newer than the ones we have available. We have Linux 2.0.33 and Solaris > 5.4. From Jauder's traces it looks like the problem is happening in the > opendir call in getfnames in pico/pico_os.c. If someone has a system > capable of reproducing the problem and you can step through it to see > what's happening, please let us know what the problem is! Thanks. I'm not exactly sure what Jauder's problem is, but running pilot from 4.00 under Solaris 2.6 compiled with gcc 2.8.0 (from Solaris 2.5.1) I can get pilot to consistency get a BUS error (A)dding a file when I'm in a big directory (big dir == >1500 entries): Program received signal SIGBUS, Bus error. 0xef745a18 in _smalloc () (gdb) where #0 0xef745a18 in _smalloc () #1 0xef745a60 in malloc () #2 0x33410 in register_key (i=4, rval=2303, label=0x501b8 "", label_printer=0, row=0, col=0, len=0) at pico.c:1245 #3 0x24598 in wkeyhelp (keymenu=0xefffeb90) at display.c:2405 #4 0x215ec in mlreplyd (prompt=0x4f998 "Name of file to add: ", buf=0xefffee00 "", nbuf=256, flg=3, extras=0x0) at display.c:1378 #5 0x210dc in mlreply (prompt=0x4f998 "Name of file to add: ", buf=0xefffee00 "", nbuf=256, flg=1, extras=0x0) at display.c:1250 #6 0x1a3bc in FileBrowse (dir=0xefffefa8 "/home/cael", fn=0xeffff0a8 "", sz=0x0, flags=0) at browse.c:968 #7 0x174c8 in main (argc=2, argv=0xeffff22c) at pilot.c:131 Or, sometimes it will seg fault when just entering a big directory, as shown below. It's the same place in the code. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libc.so.1...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libdl.so.1...done. Reading symbols from /usr/platform/SUNW,Ultra-5_10/lib/libc_psr.so.1...done. #0 0xef7460d8 in realfree () (gdb) where #0 0xef7460d8 in realfree () #1 0xef7468fc in cleanfree () #2 0xef745b58 in _malloc_unlocked () #3 0xef745a60 in malloc () #4 0x33410 in register_key (i=6, rval=2303, label=0x501b8 "", label_printer=0, row=0, col=0, len=0) at pico.c:1245 #5 0x24598 in wkeyhelp (keymenu=0x63f3c) at display.c:2405 #6 0x1ce10 in BrowserKeys () at browse.c:1799 #7 0x1cba0 in PaintBrowser (mp=0x7b810, level=0, row=0xefffef48, col=0xefffef44) at browse.c:1768 #8 0x1b5e8 in FileBrowse (dir=0xefffefe0 "/home/mefac/edan", fn=0xeffff0e0 "", sz=0x0, flags=0) at browse.c:1345 #9 0x174c8 in main (argc=1, argv=0xeffff264) at pilot.c:131 Cheers :) - edan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 12:08:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA03425 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 12:08:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA15799; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 12:08:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA16848; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 12:05:50 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA52722 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 12:03:41 -0700 Received: from ns2.ryerson.ca (ns2.ryerson.ca [141.117.100.4]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id MAA27230 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 12:03:40 -0700 Received: by ns2.ryerson.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03ns) id AA09411; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:38:05 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:38:05 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paul Ribeiro To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: UIDSTICKY in Pine 4.02 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Brock Rozen wrote: > d_q_status_message(Opening "INBOX" ) > output_message({host.name:port}INBOX : [UIDNOTSTICKY] Non-permanent... does anyone know how to quell this message, correct it or to tell imap to put the lockfile in the users home directory? (this message shows up on Pc-Pine 3.96 connecting to the imap server included with pine4.02) thanks, /P From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 12:33:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA03317 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 12:33:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA00611; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 12:33:43 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA14143; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 12:31:38 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA56010 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 12:29:21 -0700 Received: from GroupWise.Kean.Edu (GroupWise.Kean.Edu [131.125.1.200]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id MAA10214 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 12:29:20 -0700 Received: from Kdomain1-Message_Server by GroupWise.Kean.Edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:25:21 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 15:24:52 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Paul Yahnig" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: mail.txt file in an 4.x version Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello all. I am running 3.96 now. I want to go to 4.x but whenever I do, = I run into the following problem. All users have a mail.txt file in there = home dir. Whne they use 3.96, if they have 200 messages in their inbox, = when they open 4.x they onyl have 4 or 5. What would cause this?? I am = clueless....could I move all of the mail.txt files to a folder in their = mail directory, or is it stored in the wrong format? Thanks for the help, Paul Yahnig -------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul. Yahnig =20 Sr. Systems Administrator Kean University ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:58:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA01127 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:58:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA04450; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:58:22 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA28766; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:55:56 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA29566 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:51:52 -0700 Received: from sasami.jurai.net (winter@sasami.jurai.net [207.153.65.3]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA09026 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 14:51:52 -0700 Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA05878 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 1998 17:51:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 17:51:51 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Non consistent behavior of Incoming vs. Defined Collections MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm using defined folder collections to hold verious meta related incoming mail folders; 'NetBSD' and 'FreeBSD' for example, used for containing all folders for each mailing list I'm subscribed to. These defined collections do not act like the Incoming collection; they treat the MC_TAB event differently. Is there a reason for this? I'd really like to have consistent behavior across all collections or at least the ability to turn next folder/message/collection off or on depending. I've not tracked down the relevent part of the code as I've got other things to deal with this week. Does anyone with more knowledge of the code have any ideas? Thanks. -- /* Matthew N. Dodd | A memory retaining a love you had for life winter@jurai.net | As cruel as it seems nothing ever seems to http://www.jurai.net/~winter | go right - FLA M 3.1:53 */ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA15161 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:18:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA13081; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:17:55 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA10084; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:16:16 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA13860 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:12:54 -0700 Received: from neviim.torah.org (brozen@neviim.torah.org [207.239.101.202]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA21795 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:12:53 -0700 Received: from localhost (brozen@localhost) by neviim.torah.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA08334; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 04:12:50 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:12:50 +0300 (IDT) Reply-To: Brock Rozen Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Brock Rozen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: UIDSTICKY in Pine 4.02 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Paul Ribeiro X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Backup: Disable X-URL: http://www.torah.org/~brozen X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Well, I'm using Pine4.02 with imapd included with Pine 4.02 -- and I set the proper permissions on the mail spool directory. What gives? BR On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, Paul Ribeiro wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Brock Rozen wrote: > > d_q_status_message(Opening "INBOX" ) > > output_message({host.name:port}INBOX : [UIDNOTSTICKY] Non-permanent... > does anyone know how to quell this message, correct it or to tell imap to > put the lockfile in the users home directory? (this message shows up on > Pc-Pine 3.96 connecting to the imap server included with pine4.02) > thanks, > /P > -- ---------------------------------- | Brock Rozen | brozen@torah.org | ---------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:30:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA15309 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA00372; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:29:59 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA14720; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:28:51 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA44164 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:26:29 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA04580 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:26:28 -0700 Received: from cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.83.40]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA13156 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:26:25 -0700 Message-Id: <199807240826.EAA03626@ocalhost> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 04:26:20 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: ``No Sender'' patch still work for 4.2 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN FYI the patch at http://www.peak.org/~luomat/pine/3.96/ to remove the (X-)?Sender line still seems to work for 4.02. TjL ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:33:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA16290 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:33:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA13296; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:33:24 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA24310; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:31:59 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA70916 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:28:22 -0700 Received: from neon.transmeta.com (neon-best.transmeta.com [206.184.214.10]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA04186 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:28:21 -0700 Received: from deepthought.transmeta.com (mailhost.transmeta.com [10.1.1.15]) by neon.transmeta.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id BAA01057; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:25:15 -0700 Received: from marvin.transmeta.com (root@marvin.transmeta.com [10.1.27.210]) by deepthought.transmeta.com (8.8.8+spamcan/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22976; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:28:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.transmeta.com [127.0.0.1]) by marvin.transmeta.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA07200; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:28:04 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 01:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jauder Ho To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: broken in 4.02 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Steve Hubert X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: jauderho@marvin.transmeta.com X-BOFH-MOTD: Use vi not Emacs! X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'll see what I can do tomorrow. One of the Suns blew up today and I spent all day coaxing it to come back to the land of the living. --Jauder On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, Steve Hubert wrote: > We haven't been able to reproduce this problem or understand what is > happening. I am guessing that it is happening on Linux and Solaris systems > newer than the ones we have available. We have Linux 2.0.33 and Solaris > 5.4. From Jauder's traces it looks like the problem is happening in the > opendir call in getfnames in pico/pico_os.c. If someone has a system > capable of reproducing the problem and you can step through it to see > what's happening, please let us know what the problem is! Thanks. > > -- > Steve Hubert > Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle > > On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Jauder Ho wrote: > > > > > > > still can use pine to go up directories... pilot exhibits the same problem > > under both solaris and linux. > > > > for solaris, truss pilot > > read(0, "\r", 1) = 1 > > write(1, "1B [ K", 3) = 3 > > write(1, "1B [ 7 4 ; 2 8 H1B [ 7 m".., 49) = 49 > > stat("/home", 0xEFFFEF88) = 0 > > open64("/home", O_RDONLY|O_NDELAY) = 3 > > fcntl(3, F_SETFD, 0x00000001) = 0 > > fstat64(3, 0xEFFFEE88) = 0 > > getdents64(3, 0x00077FF8, 1048) = 192 > > getdents64(3, 0x00077FF8, 1048) = 968 > > getdents64(3, 0x00077FF8, 1048) = 988 > > getdents64(3, 0x00077FF8, 1048) = 976 > > getdents64(3, 0x00077FF8, 1048) = 960 > > Incurred fault #6, FLTBOUNDS %pc = 0xEF74BADC > > siginfo: SIGSEGV SEGV_MAPERR addr=0x6E75E6F8 > > Received signal #11, SIGSEGV [default] > > siginfo: SIGSEGV SEGV_MAPERR addr=0x6E75E6F8 > > *** process killed *** > > > > for linux, strace pilot > > > > read(0, "\r", 1) = 1 > > write(1, "\33[K", 3) = 3 > > write(1, "\33[22;28H\33[7m[ Building file "..., 49) = 49 > > stat("/home", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 > > stat("/home", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 > > open("/home", O_RDONLY) = 6 > > fcntl(6, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 > > getdents(6, /* 6 entries */, 1024) = 100 > > getdents(1835627520, 0x807e258, 1024) = -1 EBADF (Bad file number) > > --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) --- > > +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++ > > > > if I go down a couple of dirs and then try to go up I get a little further > > > > for solaris > > lstat("/home/zongjian", 0xEFFFEF98) = 0 > > write(1, "1B [ 1 ; 1 H1B [ K1B [ 2".., 1024) = 1024 > > write(1, " i r ) a l g ".., 1024) = 1024 > > write(1, " r ) c a d m i u m ".., 1024) = 1024 > > write(1, " ( d i r ) d g a u d".., 1024) = 1024 > > write(1, " ( d i r ) h a".., 1024) = 1024 > > write(1, " h a n i u m ".., 1024) = 1024 > > Incurred fault #6, FLTBOUNDS %pc = 0xEF746030 > > siginfo: SIGSEGV SEGV_MAPERR addr=0x75728050 > > Received signal #11, SIGSEGV [default] > > siginfo: SIGSEGV SEGV_MAPERR addr=0x75728050 > > *** process killed *** > > > > for linux > > read(0, "\r", 1) = 1 > > write(1, "\33[K", 3) = 3 > > write(1, "\33[22;28H\33[7m[ Building file "..., 49) = 49 > > stat("/home", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 > > stat("/home", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 > > open("/home", O_RDONLY) = 6 > > fcntl(6, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0 > > getdents(6, /* 6 entries */, 1024) = 100 > > getdents(1835627520, 0x807a420, 1024) = -1 EBADF (Bad file number) > > --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) --- > > +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++ > > > > Strange... I can only go down but not up :) > > > > --Jauder > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 03:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA19630 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 03:39:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id DAA14825; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 03:38:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA12069; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 03:37:04 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA52544 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 03:34:18 -0700 Received: from josef.ifi.unizh.ch (josef.ifi.unizh.ch [130.60.48.10]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id DAA26146 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 03:34:17 -0700 Received: from ifi.unizh.ch by josef.ifi.unizh.ch with SMTP (PP) id <03562-0@josef.ifi.unizh.ch>; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:34:22 +0200 Received: from localhost by mauritius via SMTP (SMI-8.6/JAN94.IFI.UNIZH.CH) for id MAA06988; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:34:12 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:34:01 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Denis N. Antonioli" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Bug in html filter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, I've just received an email that crashes pine 4: it's a multipart mail that contains this text/html: Hi,
 
 
We are trying to increase the performance of a parser
we generated using JavaCC.  We've found that for a 1.2MB
input file, with about 56K lines, usually 4 tokens per line,
the parser takes over 10 minutes.

 
We would greatly appreciate any performance tips that the
collective experience of the mailing list can offer us.

 
Currently, we are using a ByteArrayInputStream as the
underlying InputStream for the parser, i.e.
 "parser = new Parser(bytestream)"
Is there a more efficient way to use the parser?

 
============================================
James Flagg                    (650)633-6923
Oracle Corp.            jflagg@us.oracle.com
============================================

 

Pine breaks on the anchor tag; there are no problems when the line is removed. Greetings, dna - -- ... an initial underscore already conveys strong feelings of magicalness to a C programmer. -- Larry Wall in <1992Nov9.195250.23584@netlabs.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAwUBNbhjH37lXFr6ofWlAQEJEQQAtqpjtGifMuNGF4o9+YlVitt2BbDS1vhc As/n7bBHddekuYXyiBf705pEN5L/9T/6lQ/Lh3Aek4aevq+XyzQTZsATsRp6Mvm9 RZhAZOuslJxX329JruTrfXXjT4Fz1AQA3ul85t9udpo/7iCC1EFHGjj7l3X2DjVu 8aAlRcT/CPU= =T4uB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 04:31:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA20282 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 04:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id EAA02986; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 04:31:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA12634; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 04:29:45 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA21714 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 04:27:17 -0700 Received: from josef.ifi.unizh.ch (josef.ifi.unizh.ch [130.60.48.10]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id EAA23500 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 04:27:15 -0700 Received: from ifi.unizh.ch by josef.ifi.unizh.ch with SMTP (PP) id <04541-0@josef.ifi.unizh.ch>; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:27:07 +0200 Received: from localhost by mauritius via SMTP (SMI-8.6/JAN94.IFI.UNIZH.CH) for id NAA08399; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:26:57 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:26:42 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Denis N. Antonioli" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Patch: get a fully qualified hostname MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-684387517-901032782=:1983" Content-ID: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-684387517-901032782=:1983 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, The routine pine uses to get the domain name fails when the name of the computer is not fully qualified, and that causes pine to add a 'Sender' header. This is problematic because the Sender will contains an invalid address and the tools that uses the Sender instead of the From won't be able to communicate. This issue has already been discussed in the mailing list, and ended in proposition to end the /etc/host or /etc/sendmail.cf. Since this would be a non-trivial change, for which I found no good reference, I didn't manage to persuade our sys. admin to proceed. I've found on D=E9j=E0 News a solution for this problem and adapted it to pine. The solution is easily applied, has been tested with both pine 3.9? and 4.0? and gives us satisfaction.=20 To use it, 1) save the attachment as 'domnames.fq' (fq =3D fully qualified) in the pine/osdep directory, where it will compliment the domnames and domnames.dos 2) edit in os-xxx.ic the line include(domnames) to read include(domnames.fq) 3) type 'make os-xxx.c' to have the change take effect, and build pine again. I think it would be a good idea to include this alternate domnames.fq with future distribution of pine, wouldn't it? 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----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA22364 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA12271; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:01:29 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA12725; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:56:34 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA57928 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:53:30 -0700 Received: from jumping-spider.aracnet.com (jumping-spider.aracnet.com [205.159.88.14]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA16092 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:53:30 -0700 Received: from shell2.aracnet.com (IDENT:vampire@shell2.aracnet.com [205.159.88.20]) by jumping-spider.aracnet.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id LAA27247; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:50:35 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jordy Simpson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: FIX!!! -- The annoying FOLDER INTERNAL DATA message In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Terry Gray X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: vampire@shell2.aracnet.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I did read the release notes, and adding the quell-folder-internal-msg did not fix the problem for me. That's why I recompiled. Otherwise, why would I bother? :-) -Jordy On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Terry Gray wrote: > Jordy, > One of us is definitely missing something... > > > If anyone can find a more "official" way to do it, great! But until then, > > this should suffice. > > Might not the "official" way to do it be just setting the > quell-folder-internal-msg > feature via the config screen?? Or are you saying that doesn't work for > you? > > You *did* read the release notes for 4.01 or 4.02 before trying to modify > it, right? > > -teg > > On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Jordy Simpson wrote: > > > Greetings! > > > > I looked in the list archives, and it seems that noone has solved this > > problem yet. Since I did, I figured I'd join the list and send my > > solution out to y'all. > > > > To get rid of that annoying FOLDER INTERNAL DATA message that is screwing > > up everything from BitchX to asmail to Microsoft Outlook 98, take a look > > at the following (you'll have to recompile Pine, but it's worth it): > > > > source file: pine4.02/pine/init.c > > > > Original Version: > > ----------------- > > /* > > * Turn on quelling of pseudo message. > > */ > > if(F_ON(F_QUELL_INTERNAL_MSG,ps_global)) > > mail_parameters(NULL, SET_USERHASNOLIFE, (void *) 1); > > > > Fixed Version: > > ----------------- > > /* > > * Turn on quelling of pseudo message. > > */ > > #if(F_ON(F_QUELL_INTERNAL_MSG,ps_global)) > > mail_parameters(NULL, SET_USERHASNOLIFE, (void *) 1); > > > > Isn't it nice how one little comment symbol fixes a major annoyance? :-) > > > > I've been sending and receiving mail with Pine 4.02 and this fix for > > several hours without any more of those messages. I've even accessed my > > spool with version 3.96 again, then back to 4.02, with no problems. I've > > tried sending and receiving mail with Eudora, Outlook, Outlook Express, > > Pine, Fetchmail, and Netscape Mail, and they all work fine, with > > no more internal data messages. > > > > If anyone can find a more "official" way to do it, great! But until then, > > this should suffice. > > > > -Jordy > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Jordy Simpson | System Operator, BOFH > > vampire@violin.aracnet.com | Aracnet Internet Services > > vampire@rubyred.com | http://www.aracnet.com/ > > http://www.rubyred.com/ | 503-626-7696 -=+=- 360-696-9574 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > __ _ > > / / (_)__ __ ____ __ > > / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / . . . t h e c h o i c e o f a > > /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ G N U g e n e r a t i o n . . . > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA26741 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:09:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA12447; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:09:46 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA13348; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:06:32 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA86762 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:04:04 -0700 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (mailhost1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA17289 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:04:03 -0700 Received: from D-140-142-189-195.dhcp.washington.edu (D-140-142-189-195.dhcp.washington.edu [140.142.189.195]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id MAA12038; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:03:30 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 12:04:07 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: FIX!!! -- The annoying FOLDER INTERNAL DATA message In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset = US-ASCII X-To: Jordy Simpson X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Jordy Simpson wrote: > I did read the release notes, and adding the quell-folder-internal-msg did > not fix the problem for me. That's why I recompiled. Otherwise, why > would I bother? :-) That's what the rest of us were wondering! -teg p.s. If you can reproduce the failure of the "official" feature, please provide more details on your environment, as it seems to work for "everyone else"... :) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA28285 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA14171; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:25:18 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA09296; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:22:43 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA13906 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:18:58 -0700 Received: from webster (webster.vetri.com [198.153.135.140]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id NAA24812 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:18:57 -0700 Received: from spike by webster (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA16254; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:21:52 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:19:45 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shawn Jeffries To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Help - address display in header fields (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ujefsh81@spike X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I noticed an annoying change in 4.00 , in the older version, when a message was displayed, the email addresses would list all the way to the last column like this From : xxx@yyy.com To : asdfg@hjk.com, qwerty@uio.edu, zxcvbn@bmm.com Cc : qetqwetr@hjk.com, asdgasdfa@uio.edu, zxcvbn@bmm.com Now, it displays with a carriage return after each item : From : xxx@yyy.com To : asdfg@hjk.com, qwerty@uio.edu, zxcvbn@bmm.com Cc : qetqwetr@hjk.com, asdgasdfa@uio.edu, zxcvbn@bmm.com Is there an option to set it back ? I get a lot of messages with huge recipient lists, and I hate paging down 2 or 3 times before I get to the message body. Thanks, Shawn Jeffries shawn_jeffries@vetri.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA19689 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA14541; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:39:38 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA13452; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:37:52 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA62814 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:35:19 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA26310 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:35:19 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by kens.com (8.8.8/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA18904; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:35:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:35:18 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Help - address display in header fields (fwd) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Shawn Jeffries X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Could you have a smaller thing to bitch about??? Dude, press ctrl-v a couple of times, and don't be so damn lazy. On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Shawn Jeffries wrote: > I noticed an annoying change in 4.00 , in the older version, when a From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA28910 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:44:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA14636; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:44:15 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA18143; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:42:35 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA86530 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:40:13 -0700 Received: from webster (webster.vetri.com [198.153.135.140]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id NAA24247 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:40:12 -0700 Received: from spike by webster (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA16818; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:43:06 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:40:59 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shawn Jeffries To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Help - address display in header fields (fwd) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum , Ken Woods X-Sender: ujefsh81@spike X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Listen asshole : If you got mail lists 50 people long, you'd try to find a fix. Shawn Jeffries shawn_jeffries@vetri.com On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Ken Woods wrote: >Could you have a smaller thing to bitch about??? >Dude, press ctrl-v a couple of times, and don't be so damn lazy. > > > > >On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Shawn Jeffries wrote: >> I noticed an annoying change in 4.00 , in the older version, when a > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA24328 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:55:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA27160; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:55:45 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA25352; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:52:45 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA44104 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:50:18 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA25171 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:50:18 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by kens.com (8.8.8/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA19014; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:50:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:50:19 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Help - address display in header fields (fwd) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Shawn Jeffries X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hey fuckstain: man procmail man awk man sed man egrep Thanks for playing, please try again. On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Shawn Jeffries wrote: > > Listen asshole : > > If you got mail lists 50 people long, you'd try to find a fix. > > Shawn Jeffries > shawn_jeffries@vetri.com > > On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Ken Woods wrote: > > >Could you have a smaller thing to bitch about??? > >Dude, press ctrl-v a couple of times, and don't be so damn lazy. > > > > > > > > > >On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Shawn Jeffries wrote: > >> I noticed an annoying change in 4.00 , in the older version, when a > > > > > Ken Woods kwoodskens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:30:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA29648 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:30:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA27999; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:30:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA27208; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:28:45 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA82158 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:26:19 -0700 Received: from fwns2.raleigh.ibm.com (fwns2d.raleigh.ibm.com [204.146.167.236]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA31509 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:26:18 -0700 Received: from rtpmail03.raleigh.ibm.com (rtpmail03.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.172.47]) by fwns2.raleigh.ibm.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/RTP-FW-1.2) with ESMTP id RAA15018; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 17:26:16 -0400 Received: from hobbes.dds.dfw.ibm.com (peterg@hobbes.dds.dfw.ibm.com [9.39.64.53]) by rtpmail03.raleigh.ibm.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/RTP-ral-1.1) with SMTP id RAA28626; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 17:26:16 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:25:37 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Peter Green To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Help - address display in header fields (fwd) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: Ken Woods X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: peterg@hobbes.dds.dfw.ibm.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Ken Woods wrote: > Hey fuckstain: >=20 > man procmail > man awk > man sed > man egrep Relax, he didn't exactly ask about procmail, awk, sed, or egrep. He asked if it were possible in *PINE*. All you did was try to act =FCbercool, total= ly ignoring his question. It would be understandable if, in your first post, you offered the above as a solution; however you just shot your mouth off instead. Now, do you have a pine-related answer or not? If not, why don't you refrain from "answering"? /pg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:49:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA29969 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA16409; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:49:06 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA13896; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:47:35 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA25400 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:45:37 -0700 Received: from neon.transmeta.com (neon-best.transmeta.com [206.184.214.10]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA00829 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:45:37 -0700 Received: from deepthought.transmeta.com (mailhost.transmeta.com [10.1.1.15]) by neon.transmeta.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA08593; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:42:31 -0700 Received: from marvin.transmeta.com (root@marvin.transmeta.com [10.1.27.210]) by deepthought.transmeta.com (8.8.8+spamcan/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09789; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:45:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.transmeta.com [127.0.0.1]) by marvin.transmeta.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA11737; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:45:29 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 14:45:29 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jauder Ho To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: broken in 4.02 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Edan Idzerda X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: jauderho@marvin.transmeta.com X-BOFH-MOTD: Use vi not Emacs! X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN okay this is strange... running with gdb 0x40046c4d in __libc_free ()Where is Spc Next Pg R Rename E Edit (gdb) where #0 0x40046c4d in __libc_free () #1 0x400a3d88 in __DTOR_END__ () #2 0xffffffff in ?? () Cannot access memory at address 0x72656475. (gdb) If I step through it, it seems to die around the lines 1398 #else 1399 while((dp = readdir(dirp)) != NULL) 1400 if(!pat || !*pat || !strncmp(dp->d_name, pat, strlen(pat))){ 1401 (*n)++; 1402 p = dp->d_name; 1403 while(*np++ = *p++) 1404 ; 1405 } 1406 #endif 1407 1408 closedir(dirp); /* shut down */ 1409 return(names); in pico_os.c hope this helps. --jauder On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, Edan Idzerda wrote: > > > On Thu, 23 Jul 1998, Steve Hubert wrote: > > > We haven't been able to reproduce this problem or understand what is > > happening. I am guessing that it is happening on Linux and Solaris systems > > newer than the ones we have available. We have Linux 2.0.33 and Solaris > > 5.4. From Jauder's traces it looks like the problem is happening in the > > opendir call in getfnames in pico/pico_os.c. If someone has a system > > capable of reproducing the problem and you can step through it to see > > what's happening, please let us know what the problem is! Thanks. > > I'm not exactly sure what Jauder's problem is, but running pilot > from 4.00 under Solaris 2.6 compiled with gcc 2.8.0 (from Solaris 2.5.1) > I can get pilot to consistency get a BUS error (A)dding a file > when I'm in a big directory (big dir == >1500 entries): > > Program received signal SIGBUS, Bus error. > 0xef745a18 in _smalloc () > (gdb) where > #0 0xef745a18 in _smalloc () > #1 0xef745a60 in malloc () > #2 0x33410 in register_key (i=4, rval=2303, label=0x501b8 "", label_printer=0, > row=0, col=0, len=0) at pico.c:1245 > #3 0x24598 in wkeyhelp (keymenu=0xefffeb90) at display.c:2405 > #4 0x215ec in mlreplyd (prompt=0x4f998 "Name of file to add: ", buf=0xefffee00 "", > nbuf=256, flg=3, extras=0x0) at display.c:1378 > #5 0x210dc in mlreply (prompt=0x4f998 "Name of file to add: ", buf=0xefffee00 "", > nbuf=256, flg=1, extras=0x0) at display.c:1250 > #6 0x1a3bc in FileBrowse (dir=0xefffefa8 "/home/cael", fn=0xeffff0a8 "", sz=0x0, > flags=0) at browse.c:968 > #7 0x174c8 in main (argc=2, argv=0xeffff22c) at pilot.c:131 > > > Or, sometimes it will seg fault when just entering a big directory, as shown > below. It's the same place in the code. > > > Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libc.so.1...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libdl.so.1...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/platform/SUNW,Ultra-5_10/lib/libc_psr.so.1...done. > #0 0xef7460d8 in realfree () > (gdb) where > #0 0xef7460d8 in realfree () > #1 0xef7468fc in cleanfree () > #2 0xef745b58 in _malloc_unlocked () > #3 0xef745a60 in malloc () > #4 0x33410 in register_key (i=6, rval=2303, label=0x501b8 "", label_printer=0, > row=0, col=0, len=0) at pico.c:1245 > #5 0x24598 in wkeyhelp (keymenu=0x63f3c) at display.c:2405 > #6 0x1ce10 in BrowserKeys () at browse.c:1799 > #7 0x1cba0 in PaintBrowser (mp=0x7b810, level=0, row=0xefffef48, col=0xefffef44) > at browse.c:1768 > #8 0x1b5e8 in FileBrowse (dir=0xefffefe0 "/home/mefac/edan", fn=0xeffff0e0 "", > sz=0x0, flags=0) at browse.c:1345 > #9 0x174c8 in main (argc=1, argv=0xeffff264) at pilot.c:131 > > > Cheers :) > > - edan > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA30477 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:14:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA17035; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:14:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA29351; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:12:41 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA77234 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:10:14 -0700 Received: from cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.83.40]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA02926 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:10:12 -0700 Message-Id: <199807242210.SAA07496@ocalhost> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:10:06 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Help - address display in header fields (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Author: Ken Woods Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:50:19 -0400 (EDT) ID: > man procmail > man awk > man sed > man egrep > > Thanks for playing, please try again. Ken, really, take a pill. It's an annoying change, and it is due to PINE. I've got a message which is _fine_ but when PINE gets ahold of it, it screws it up. procmail et al are USELESS as was your response in this situation. Would you like a copy of the message with hundreds of addresses that now scrolls dozens of times more than it needs to? I'm all for getting people to read the FAQ or checking DejaNews, but when someone asks a legit question that hasn't been answered before describing an annoying new behavior, must you spout off? And if so, could you at least attempt to grasp the problem enough to give a suggestion that would have a chance in hell of helping, rather than blathering off about man pages to programs which won't help the situation? TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA30327 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA17472; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:33:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA18724; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:31:57 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA31698 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:29:14 -0700 Received: from fluke.com (mail.fluke.com [206.138.179.7]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA01743 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:29:13 -0700 Received: by gateway2.fluke.com id <27790>; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:24:48 -0700 Message-Id: <98Jul24.152448pdt.27790@gateway2.fluke.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 15:29:07 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David Dyck To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: kill files in pine. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Another example showed up today, that reminded me that it would be nice to have kill files in pine, or I will need to hand edit my .procmailrc again :-) ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:49:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA31790 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA19165; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:49:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA02622; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:48:04 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA87540 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:44:41 -0700 Received: from teyaotlani.col.itesm.mx (teyaotlani.col.itesm.mx [132.254.145.54]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id QAA27808 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:44:37 -0700 Received: from teyaotlani by teyaotlani.col.itesm.mx (NX5.67c/NX3.0M) id AA00821; Fri, 24 Jul 98 18:44:53 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:44:53 -0600 (GMT-0600) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: SuperVisor de PINE To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Still Mailbox vulnerability on PINE4.01... In-Reply-To: <199807221924.NAA12095@slip44.Mines.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Michael Driscoll X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: pine@teyaotlani X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, I'm volunteer tester of PINE software into two systems: AIX4.1/3.2 and NeXTstep 3.0 and I still see some extrange messages refering to Mailbox vulnerability just on AIX4.1 like this: Mailbox vulnerable - error creating /var/spool/mail/august.lock.901321877.1898 I'm still trying to figure it out, 'cause on AIX3.2 and NeXTstep 3.0 PINE software run fine, so I hope suggestions of what to do... thanx and keep feeding this incredible mailbox listing... Regards from Colima, MEXICO. Augusto A. Guerrero Rodriguez. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:14:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA00424 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:14:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA20687; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:14:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA05325; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:13:34 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA69352 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:09:55 -0700 Received: from apogee.whack.org (mail@apogee.whack.org [209.152.153.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA00340 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:09:54 -0700 Received: from apogee ([209.152.153.2] ident=bruno) by apogee.whack.org with smtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for pine-info@u.washington.edu id 0yzsj0-0007gL-00; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:02:14 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:02:12 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Bruno To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.02 quirks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: bruno@apogee X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN After upgrading from Pine 3.96 -> 4.02 and successfully getting all of the locking issues worked out :) ... I have stumbled across a new issue. When viewing a standard MIME message of > 200k, pine aborts and core dumps with the following exit message sent to STDOUT: Problem detected: "Received abort signal". Pine Exiting. Abort (core dumped) I'm unable to reproduce the same problem exporting the same message to Pico 3.2 via Pine 3.96. Any ideas? ____________________________________________ Bruno bruno@whack.org ____________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:26:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA26976 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA20833; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:25:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA05708; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:24:35 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA63284 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:21:08 -0700 Received: from fwns1.raleigh.ibm.com (fwns1d.raleigh.ibm.com [204.146.167.235]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA16996 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:21:08 -0700 Received: from rtpmail03.raleigh.ibm.com (rtpmail03.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.172.47]) by fwns1.raleigh.ibm.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/RTP-FW-1.2) with ESMTP id VAA14102; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:21:06 -0400 Received: from hobbes.dds.dfw.ibm.com (peterg@hobbes.dds.dfw.ibm.com [9.39.64.53]) by rtpmail03.raleigh.ibm.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/RTP-ral-1.1) with SMTP id VAA30308; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:21:05 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:20:26 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Peter Green To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Still Mailbox vulnerability on PINE4.01... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: SuperVisor de PINE X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: peterg@hobbes.dds.dfw.ibm.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, SuperVisor de PINE wrote: > > Hello, I'm volunteer tester of PINE software into two systems: AIX4.1/3.2 > and NeXTstep 3.0 and I still see some extrange messages refering to > Mailbox vulnerability just on AIX4.1 like this: > > Mailbox vulnerable - error creating /var/spool/mail/august.lock.901321877.1898 I use pine 4.02 on AIX 4.2.1 and I haven't seen these messages. However, I *have* seen them on (at least) pine 4.00 on a RedHat 5.1 machine. Could it be a permissions thing or a different locking mechanism or what? /pg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:37:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA27983 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA04389; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:36:59 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA08255; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:35:27 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA69368 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:31:54 -0700 Received: from continuum.cm.nu (shane@00-00-c0-36-52-fa.bconnected.net [209.53.18.213]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA06771 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:31:53 -0700 Received: from localhost (shane@localhost) by continuum.cm.nu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA16502 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:31:56 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shane Wegner To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: list format MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Info Mailing List X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello all, I am using Pine with speech and am wondering if message lists can be altered. When you press i for index, it lists messages like this number date from size subject I'd like to make it so the size isn't listed...less to read since I get over 500 emails per day it makes it easier. Can this be done? - -- Shane Wegner: mailto:shane@cm.nu Sysadmin, Continuum Systems: http://www.cm.nu/ Vice President, W.A.P.V.I. Personal website: http://www.cm.nu/~shane/ PGP key: finger:shane@cm.nu ICQ UIN: 15706546 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNblRq5JJLM/l/+PBAQGPGAP/YBjGNXMCQ4E+FO0wk5rH4ZnEs/eRM00r Wxckqg5ZcX5eC2gr4kXFBmUHjD+lztZuF2a0EMr/47vzw2s6zuQnvSqR8enVT88Q OTDywPKYaQTeRiR4DJKbBI4QalDISU9ubkeljio5uakS/ur6CBiqX0tM2C/+hP3B Dbu0w1xhb3Q= =kAb4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:05:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA01770 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:05:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA22489; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:05:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA24438; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:04:16 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA15630 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:01:01 -0700 Received: from cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.83.40]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA24681 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:00:59 -0700 Message-Id: <199807250400.AAA01710@ocalhost> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 00:00:54 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: list format In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Author: Shane Wegner Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:31:54 -0700 (PDT) ID: > I'd like to make it so the size isn't listed...less to read since I get > over 500 emails per day it makes it easier. Can this be done? Not without hacking the source code, and I don't know how easy it would be. TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:26:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA25903 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA04901; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:26:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA01845; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:24:33 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA87322 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:21:18 -0700 Received: from jhuml1.hcf.jhu.edu (jhuml1.hcf.jhu.edu [128.220.2.86]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA03845 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:21:16 -0700 Received: from RacerX.mse.jhu.edu by jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #26381) with SMTP id <01IZSQMICUU6BWIYLR@jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 00:20:48 EDT Received: from localhost by RacerX.mse.jhu.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/07Dec94-1133AM) id AA09659; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 00:20:54 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 00:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Tim DiLauro To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: list format In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Shane Wegner wrote: > I am using Pine with speech and am wondering if message lists can be > altered. When you press i for index, it lists messages like this > number date from size subject > I'd like to make it so the size isn't listed...less to read since I get > over 500 emails per day it makes it easier. Can this be done? Shane: Look at the help under "index-format" in main||setup||config. It describes how to reformat the index display. No source code changes required. -timmo -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim DiLauro Milton S. Eisenhower Library Library Systems Jack Johns Hopkins University (410) 516-5263 3400 N. Charles Street timmo@jhu.edu Baltimore, MD 21218 ------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:46:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA01798 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:46:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA22924; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:46:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA27285; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:45:13 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA13890 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:41:57 -0700 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA09743 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:41:56 -0700 Received: from ops_svr (ip143.anaheim.quik.com [207.38.102.143]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA45678 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 04:41:49 GMT Message-Id: <000a01bdb785$cf3cbec0$816626cf@ops_svr> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:36:37 -0700 Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: list format In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Please excuse me for intruding, but did you say Pine *with speech*??? Until now, I was unaware that such a thing was possible... Does it sort of work like this..... ------ "Pine, take a letter" "Dear List[comma][nedwline][first letter capitalized]" "I am astonished to learn that typing is no longer necessary [comma] owing to the genius of the [capital letters]PINE [lowercase]team at Ewe Wash[period]" ------ Seriously, do I understand this correctly...speech????? -Colin. -- Colin J. Raven Operations Manager, HDS Lab, Inc. Costa Mesa, CA  |  Harrison, NY (714) 428 0300  |  (914) 835 2200 "Note elegant use of sigdashes to avoid pissing off LaTeX users like Robin!"   > > > >On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Shane Wegner wrote: > >> I am using Pine with speech and am wondering if message lists can be >> altered. When you press i for index, it lists messages like this >> number date from size subject >> I'd like to make it so the size isn't listed...less to read since I get >> over 500 emails per day it makes it easier. Can this be done? > >Shane: > >Look at the help under "index-format" in main||setup||config. It >describes how to reformat the index display. No source code changes >required. > >-timmo > >-- >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Tim DiLauro Milton S. Eisenhower Library >Library Systems Jack Johns Hopkins University >(410) 516-5263 3400 N. Charles Street >timmo@jhu.edu Baltimore, MD 21218 >------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:17:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA02444 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:17:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA05426; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:17:44 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA02847; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:16:19 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA40208 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:12:31 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA27839 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:12:30 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by kens.com (8.8.8/8.9.0) with SMTP id BAA21056; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 01:12:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 01:12:28 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Help - address display in header fields (fwd) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: Peter Green X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Peter Green wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Ken Woods wrote: >=20 > > Hey fuckstain: > >=20 > > man procmail > > man awk > > man sed > > man egrep >=20 > Relax, he didn't exactly ask about procmail, awk, sed, or egrep. He asked > if it were possible in *PINE*. All you did was try to act =FCbercool, tot= ally > ignoring his question. It would be understandable if, in your first post, > you offered the above as a solution; however you just shot your mouth off > instead. Now, do you have a pine-related answer or not? If not, why don't > you refrain from "answering"? >=20 If the luser would actually rtfm, he would know that he could grep the other addresses out, before they even get to pine!!! Whatever.=20 I really don't give a fuck if he has to page thru the extra header info. Mine works. Ken Woods kwoodskens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:20:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA02485 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA05451; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:20:42 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA09849; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:19:37 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA40330 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:15:44 -0700 Received: from apogee.whack.org (mail@apogee.whack.org [209.152.153.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA23714 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:15:42 -0700 Received: from apogee ([209.152.153.2] ident=bruno) by apogee.whack.org with smtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 0yzwYl-00070F-00; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:07:55 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Bruno To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Still Mailbox vulnerability on PINE4.01... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Peter Green X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: bruno@apogee X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Peter Green wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, SuperVisor de PINE wrote: > > > > > Hello, I'm volunteer tester of PINE software into two systems: AIX4.1/3.2 > > and NeXTstep 3.0 and I still see some extrange messages refering to > > Mailbox vulnerability just on AIX4.1 like this: > > > > Mailbox vulnerable - error creating /var/spool/mail/august.lock.901321877.1898 > > I use pine 4.02 on AIX 4.2.1 and I haven't seen these messages. However, I > *have* seen them on (at least) pine 4.00 on a RedHat 5.1 machine. Could it > be a permissions thing or a different locking mechanism or what? Pine is trying to write its .lock files to /var/spool/mail/, yet its running as the uid executing it (august), whom probably does not have write permissions to /var/spool/mail/. The solution, make pine setgid to the mail group or chmod /var/spool/mail/ to 1777, world writable with a sticky bit so files can only be deleted by respective owners or UID 0. This is all in the release notes/technical documentation of pine 4.x. ____________________________________________ Bruno bruno@whack.org ____________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA02245 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA05483; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:23:51 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA28198; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:22:50 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA53498 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:17:33 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA28089 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:17:32 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by kens.com (8.8.8/8.9.0) with SMTP id BAA21069; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 01:17:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 01:17:30 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Help - address display in header fields (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199807242210.SAA07496@ocalhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Timothy J Luoma X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > Author: Ken Woods > Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:50:19 -0400 (EDT) > ID: > > > man procmail > > man awk > > man sed > > man egrep > > > > Thanks for playing, please try again. > > Ken, really, take a pill. > > It's an annoying change, and it is due to PINE. > > I've got a message which is _fine_ but when PINE gets ahold of it, it screws > it up. procmail et al are USELESS as was your response in this situation. BULLSHIT!!!! You have _NO_ clue what you are talking about. Set up a procmail recipe, grep the To: info, awk anything other than the first address out. Simple. OR, as I said in my _ORIGINAL_ post, just press ctrl-v. > Would you like a copy of the message with hundreds of addresses that now > scrolls dozens of times more than it needs to? No. As I said in my pervious response, I don't care. Mine works. > I'm all for getting people to read the FAQ or checking DejaNews, but when > someone asks a legit question that hasn't been answered before describing an > annoying new behavior, must you spout off? Whatever. Go away. > And if so, could you at least > attempt to grasp the problem enough to give a suggestion that would have a > chance in hell of helping, rather than blathering off about man pages to > programs which won't help the situation? See above, you clueless fuck. Ken Woods kwoodskens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 23:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA02584 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 23:04:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id XAA23685; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 23:04:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA10884; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 23:03:03 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA39252 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:59:36 -0700 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA07529 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:59:35 -0700 Received: from ops_svr (ip160.anaheim.quik.com [207.38.102.160]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA56866; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 05:59:26 GMT Message-Id: <000401bdb790$a6f464d0$aa6626cf@ops_svr> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:54:14 -0700 Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: list format In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Tim DiLauro" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To the List members, and Shane; Please accept my aplogies for a completely braindead and utterly insensitive, ignorant post re: Pine with speech. I misread and completely misunderstood the significance of "Pine with Speech" and i aplogize to Shane and my fellow list members for stupidity, fatigue induced ignorance, and foolishness in general. -Colin. -- Colin J. Raven Operations Manager, HDS Lab, Inc. Costa Mesa, CA | Harrison, NY > > >On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Shane Wegner wrote: > >> I am using Pine with speech and am wondering if message lists can be >> altered. When you press i for index, it lists messages like this >> number date from size subject >> I'd like to make it so the size isn't listed...less to read since I get >> over 500 emails per day it makes it easier. Can this be done? > >Shane: > >Look at the help under "index-format" in main||setup||config. It >describes how to reformat the index display. No source code changes >required. > >-timmo > >-- >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Tim DiLauro Milton S. Eisenhower Library >Library Systems Jack Johns Hopkins University >(410) 516-5263 3400 N. Charles Street >timmo@jhu.edu Baltimore, MD 21218 >------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 23:07:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA02513 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 23:07:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id XAA23734; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 23:07:19 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA04056; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 23:06:17 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA29804 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:59:37 -0700 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA25320 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:59:36 -0700 Received: from ops_svr (ip160.anaheim.quik.com [207.38.102.160]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA44592 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 05:59:29 GMT Message-Id: <000501bdb790$a80a8fc0$aa6626cf@ops_svr> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:54:15 -0700 Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Help - address display in header fields (fwd) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ken, The definition of brilliance is not what you know, but the graciousness with which you overlook the shortcomings of others. You are clearly having a stressful day, night...and maybe have taken some medication which is causing your antisocial behaviour. That's OK Ken, we understand that you may be unable to control your keyboard Tourette Syndrome. I vivdly recall once being in the grip of that accursed disorder. It caused me to periodically experience uncontrollable trembling, and a tendency to utter (and type) inappropriate things like; "Underpants on Fire" for no particular reason. We feel your pain Ken, acutely. In fact your pain is causing us all pain! May I recommend therapy, perhaps hand hacking Xconfig files for two weeks straight until your affliction has subsided? ---- BTW, although *I* might well be described as a "clueless f*&ck" because I am NOT a programming genius as you clearly are, (in fact you must be the Albert Einstein of programming based upon your insufferable arrogance, and disgustingly inappropriate language) BUT, the gentleman (and he is a gentleman BTW) who replied to you is not clueless as you suggest. Instead, he engaged you in a discussion, and from a position of knowledge I might add. Ken, get a life, a wife, a prescription...something. No-one on this list has any time for your behaviour. You will be procmailed out of most people's Inboxes I rather suspect (including my own) Your behaviour is pathetic and unforgivable. You owe the list members an apology, and should really address your manner of communicating via email. It is in a word UNACCEPTABLE! Good Night Sir, I hope your hard drive crashes, your connection dies, and your Motherboard takes the Mother of all dumps. You deserve no less. -Colin. > > >On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > >> Author: Ken Woods >> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:50:19 -0400 (EDT) >> ID: >> >> > man procmail >> > man awk >> > man sed >> > man egrep >> > >> > Thanks for playing, please try again. >> >> Ken, really, take a pill. >> >> It's an annoying change, and it is due to PINE. >> >> I've got a message which is _fine_ but when PINE gets ahold of >it, it screws >> it up. procmail et al are USELESS as was your response in this >situation. > >BULLSHIT!!!! >You have _NO_ clue what you are talking about. >Set up a procmail recipe, grep the To: info, awk anything other than the >first address out. >Simple. > >OR, as I said in my _ORIGINAL_ post, just press ctrl-v. > >> Would you like a copy of the message with hundreds of addresses >that now >> scrolls dozens of times more than it needs to? > >No. >As I said in my pervious response, I don't care. >Mine works. > > > >> I'm all for getting people to read the FAQ or checking DejaNews, >but when >> someone asks a legit question that hasn't been answered before >describing an >> annoying new behavior, must you spout off? > >Whatever. >Go away. > >> And if so, could you at least >> attempt to grasp the problem enough to give a suggestion that >would have a >> chance in hell of helping, rather than blathering off about man >pages to >> programs which won't help the situation? > >See above, you clueless fuck. > >Ken Woods >kwoodskens.com > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 00:16:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA02766 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 00:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id AAA06612; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 00:15:58 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id AAA28858; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 00:14:08 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id AAA25368 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 00:10:31 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id AAA15733 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 00:10:30 -0700 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id AAA24347 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 00:10:27 -0700 Received: from slip202-135-14-165.sy.au.ibm.net (slip202-135-14-165.sy.au.ibm.net [202.135.14.165]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA22006 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:09:55 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aeht.aeh.com.au (8.8.0/SCA-6.6) with SMTP id RAA49392 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 17:08:17 +1100 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 17:08:16 +1100 (E ) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: aeh0001@ibm.net To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: WE WISH TO REMOVE OUR E-MAIL OFF THE LIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE X-Authentication-Warning: out1.ibm.net: slip202-135-14-165.sy.au.ibm.net [202.135.14.165] didn't use HELO protocol X-Sender: pax@localhost X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN DUE TO THE FACT THAT OUR SYSTEM HAS A PROBLEM HANDLING ATTACHEMENTS OR LARGE MAIL , WE WISH TO REQUEST THAT OUR E-MAIL BE REMOVED FROM THE MAILING LIST. THANKS ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 00:32:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA24609 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 00:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id AAA24589; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 00:32:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id AAA01853; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 00:30:46 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id AAA29638 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 00:27:24 -0700 Received: from localhost.localdomain (t4o44p15.telia.com [195.198.42.195]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id AAA00181 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 00:27:22 -0700 Received: from localhost (skijk@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA02186 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:27:39 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:27:37 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Marko To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Error-message In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8891-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Sender: skijk@localhost.localdomain X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I recently Upgraded myPine by RPM-package Now when i start pine I get the following error-message right after pine started: [Mailbox vulnerable - error creating=20 /var/spool/mail/skijk.lock.901351381.2176. I can still send mail and recive mail and stuff. but it=B4s annoying and I dunno how to fix it. I run it on a Linux Redhat 5.1 system currenly version is: pine-4.00-1 and was downloaded from: http://rufus.w3.org/linux/RPM /Marko ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 03:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA07365 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 03:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id DAA09046; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 03:51:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA08107; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 03:49:12 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA31584 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 03:45:15 -0700 Received: from hwcn.org (matt@james.hwcn.org [199.212.94.66]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id DAA05444 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 03:45:15 -0700 Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by hwcn.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA06121; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 06:43:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 06:43:17 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Matthew Kelly To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Still Mailbox vulnerability on PINE4.01... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bruno X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Bruno: If you make pine sgid mail you have likely given everyone the ability to read each others' mail, or at least the ability to delete it. To stop them from being able to delete each other's mail, you'd need to add the sticky bit to the spool directory. In which case you are back to fixing the problem the other way. The real fix is 01777 for your mail spool directory. Matt On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Bruno wrote: > Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:07:52 -0700 (PDT) > From: Bruno > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Re: Still Mailbox vulnerability on PINE4.01... > > On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Peter Green wrote: > > > On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, SuperVisor de PINE wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, I'm volunteer tester of PINE software into two systems: AIX4.1/3.2 > > > and NeXTstep 3.0 and I still see some extrange messages refering to > > > Mailbox vulnerability just on AIX4.1 like this: > > > > > > Mailbox vulnerable - error creating /var/spool/mail/august.lock.901321877.1898 > > > > I use pine 4.02 on AIX 4.2.1 and I haven't seen these messages. However, I > > *have* seen them on (at least) pine 4.00 on a RedHat 5.1 machine. Could it > > be a permissions thing or a different locking mechanism or what? > > Pine is trying to write its .lock files to /var/spool/mail/, yet its > running as the uid executing it (august), whom probably does not have > write permissions to /var/spool/mail/. > > The solution, make pine setgid to the mail group or chmod /var/spool/mail/ > to 1777, world writable with a sticky bit so files can only be deleted by > respective owners or UID 0. > > This is all in the release notes/technical documentation of pine 4.x. > > ____________________________________________ > > Bruno bruno@whack.org > ____________________________________________ > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matthew Kelly matt@hwcn.org From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA03992 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA29039; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:11:00 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA17559; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:09:02 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA15748 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:03:56 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA05835 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:03:56 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by kens.com (8.8.8/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA24791; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 10:03:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 10:03:55 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Help - address display in header fields (fwd) In-Reply-To: <000501bdb790$a80a8fc0$aa6626cf@ops_svr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Colin J. Raven" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ok, you win. I'm wrong, you're right. (this is entirely too much trouble, and like I said, mine works.) Perhaps if some of you lusers would actually take the time to RTFM, you wouldn't have these stupid little problems. On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Colin J. Raven wrote: > Ken, > The definition of brilliance is not what you know, but the graciousness with > which you overlook the shortcomings of others. > You are clearly having a stressful day, night...and maybe have taken some > medication which is causing your antisocial behaviour. That's OK Ken, we > understand that you may be unable to control your keyboard Tourette > Syndrome. > I vivdly recall once being in the grip of that accursed disorder. It caused > me to periodically experience uncontrollable trembling, and a tendency to > utter (and type) inappropriate things like; "Underpants on Fire" for no > particular reason. > We feel your pain Ken, acutely. In fact your pain is causing us all pain! > May I recommend therapy, perhaps hand hacking Xconfig files for two weeks > straight until your affliction has subsided? > ---- > BTW, although *I* might well be described as a "clueless f*&ck" because I am > NOT a programming genius as you clearly are, (in fact you must be the Albert > Einstein of programming based upon your insufferable arrogance, and > disgustingly inappropriate language) BUT, the gentleman (and he is a > gentleman BTW) who replied to you is not clueless as you suggest. Instead, > he engaged you in a discussion, and from a position of knowledge I might > add. > Ken, get a life, a wife, a prescription...something. No-one on this list has > any time for your behaviour. You will be procmailed out of most people's > Inboxes I rather suspect (including my own) Your behaviour is pathetic and > unforgivable. > You owe the list members an apology, and should really address your manner > of communicating via email. It is in a word UNACCEPTABLE! > Good Night Sir, I hope your hard drive crashes, your connection dies, and > your Motherboard takes the Mother of all dumps. You deserve no less. > -Colin. > > > > > > > >On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > > >> Author: Ken Woods > >> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:50:19 -0400 (EDT) > >> ID: > >> > >> > man procmail > >> > man awk > >> > man sed > >> > man egrep > >> > > >> > Thanks for playing, please try again. > >> > >> Ken, really, take a pill. > >> > >> It's an annoying change, and it is due to PINE. > >> > >> I've got a message which is _fine_ but when PINE gets ahold of > >it, it screws > >> it up. procmail et al are USELESS as was your response in this > >situation. > > > >BULLSHIT!!!! > >You have _NO_ clue what you are talking about. > >Set up a procmail recipe, grep the To: info, awk anything other than the > >first address out. > >Simple. > > > >OR, as I said in my _ORIGINAL_ post, just press ctrl-v. > > > >> Would you like a copy of the message with hundreds of addresses > >that now > >> scrolls dozens of times more than it needs to? > > > >No. > >As I said in my pervious response, I don't care. > >Mine works. > > > > > > > >> I'm all for getting people to read the FAQ or checking DejaNews, > >but when > >> someone asks a legit question that hasn't been answered before > >describing an > >> annoying new behavior, must you spout off? > > > >Whatever. > >Go away. > > > >> And if so, could you at least > >> attempt to grasp the problem enough to give a suggestion that > >would have a > >> chance in hell of helping, rather than blathering off about man > >pages to > >> programs which won't help the situation? > > > >See above, you clueless fuck. > > > >Ken Woods > >kwoodskens.com > > > > > Ken Woods kwoodskens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA30120 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA29181; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:25:51 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA10824; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:24:50 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA62866 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:21:55 -0700 Received: from cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.83.40]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA06394 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:21:54 -0700 Message-Id: <199807251421.KAA07848@ocalhost> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 10:21:50 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Help - address display in header fields (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Author: Ken Woods Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 01:17:30 -0400 (EDT) ID: > > I've got a message which is _fine_ but when PINE gets ahold of it, it > > screws it up. procmail et al are USELESS as was your response in this > > situation. > > BULLSHIT!!!! > You have _NO_ clue what you are talking about. Apparently you believe that to be true for everyone on the planet besides yourself. > Set up a procmail recipe, grep the To: info, awk anything other than the > first address out. > Simple. Oh yeah, that's useful, as long as you don't mind losing all the information about who the message was sent to. Your suggestion wasn't useless, it was stupid. > OR, as I said in my _ORIGINAL_ post, just press ctrl-v. I saw your original post. It still doesn't address the issue of why PINE changed this behavior, why it wasn't made optional. It's not a great workaround. If there was some keystroke to "skip down to the end of the headers" then that would be helpful. > No. > As I said in my pervious response, I don't care. > Mine works. It works for you, it doesn't work for others. > > I'm all for getting people to read the FAQ or checking DejaNews, but when > > someone asks a legit question that hasn't been answered before describing > > an annoying new behavior, must you spout off? > > Whatever. > Go away. No. I'm not going to be pushed around by someone with nothing better to do than spout off superiority-complex when someone asks a question you decide isn't useful. Can someone offer any suggestions that will not lose all the information stored in the headers besides "just ignore it and ctrl-v" ? TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:48:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA10201 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA29425; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:48:45 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA11270; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:46:53 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA69124 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:44:01 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA07116 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:44:01 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by kens.com (8.8.8/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA24884; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 10:44:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 10:44:01 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Help - address display in header fields (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199807251421.KAA07848@ocalhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Timothy J Luoma X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 25 Jul 1998, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > Set up a procmail recipe, grep the To: info, awk anything other than the > > first address out. > > Oh yeah, that's useful, as long as you don't mind losing all the information > about who the message was sent to. Who said anything about loosing them??? Redirect them into a temp file. Assuming you want to reply, redirect them back into the headers. Duh. Not all that difficult. > Your suggestion wasn't useless, it was stupid. Whatever. A) You're lazy B) You whine too much C) You obviously don't know dick about the systems that you are using. RTFM, asshole. > > OR, as I said in my _ORIGINAL_ post, just press ctrl-v. > I saw your original post. It still doesn't address the issue of why PINE > changed this behavior, why it wasn't made optional. Who the fuck cares??? Don't be so goddamn lazy!!!! > It's not a great workaround. Works fine for me. > If there was some keystroke to "skip down to the end of the headers" then > that would be helpful. You really are a lazy bastard, aren't you??? > Can someone offer any suggestions that will not lose all the information > stored in the headers besides "just ignore it and ctrl-v" ? The answer is no. Go back to 3.9x if you don't like the way that 4.0x works. This is my final response to this thread. (any response to this is going to /dev/null, so, really, don't take the time to respond. I'm never going to get it) -- Ken Woods kwoodskens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA10523 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA11642; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:57:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA05080; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:55:33 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA15828 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:52:46 -0700 Received: from cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.83.40]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA07473 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:52:45 -0700 Message-Id: <199807251452.KAA08363@ocalhost> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 10:52:41 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Help - address display in header fields (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Author: Ken Woods Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 10:44:01 -0400 (EDT) ID: > > Oh yeah, that's useful, as long as you don't mind losing all the > > information about who the message was sent to. > > Who said anything about loosing them??? Redirect them into a temp file. > Assuming you want to reply, redirect them back into the headers. > Duh. > Not all that difficult. I said nothing about "loosing" them. However, I was, concerned about "losing" them. Redirecting them to a temp file? What if I don't read the message as soon as it comes in? What do I keep these temp files around? For how long would you suggest? Rather a moronic option that makes like more difficult. > > Your suggestion wasn't useless, it was stupid. > > Whatever. > A) You're lazy > B) You whine too much > C) You obviously don't know dick about the systems that you are using. yeah whatever Ken > RTFM, asshole. Which thus sums up Ken's entire vocabulary. I know the system I am using fine. I have a several thousand line set of procmail recipes. I just don't want to hack the message to make up for what PINE decided to do. > > > OR, as I said in my _ORIGINAL_ post, just press ctrl-v. > > I saw your original post. It still doesn't address the issue of why PINE > > changed this behavior, why it wasn't made optional. > > Who the fuck cares??? Me. > Don't be so goddamn lazy!!!! The computer and the programs I use are supposed to make my life easier. PINE's latest change has made it more difficult. This is going at it the wrong way. > > It's not a great workaround. > > Works fine for me. But you just can't see that others can not like your idea and still not be mentally incompetent. > > If there was some keystroke to "skip down to the end of the headers" then > > that would be helpful. > > You really are a lazy bastard, aren't you??? Yeah, I want the computer to do things which will make me have to do less. I want my mail-reading program to have the features which will make reading email as easy and take as short amount of time & frustration as possible so I can get on with my life off the computer. > This is my final response to this thread. The only helpful thing you've said so far. > (any response to this is going to /dev/null, so, really, don't take the > time to respond. I'm never going to get it) I'll respond with the hopes that someone who isn't a foul-mouthed control freak with a self-esteem problem might have a solution.... Or perhaps the PINE folks would be willing to make this "feature" optional. TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA09695 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA11671; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:59:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA07555; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:58:25 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA24816 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:52:48 -0700 Received: from dormouse.syr.edu (root@dormouse.syr.edu [128.230.4.155]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA07477 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:52:48 -0700 Received: from dormouse.syr.edu (gmalling@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dormouse.syr.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA27978 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 10:52:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199807251452.KAA27978@dormouse.syr.edu> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 10:52:43 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Glenn A. Malling" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Help - address display in header fields (fwd) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 25 Jul 1998 10:21:50 EDT." <199807251421.KAA07848@ocalhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Now that the shouting seems to be quieting down . . . You can prune those To: lists with a display filter. It won't be exactly easy since the filter will have to include a decent RFC822 parser. Anyway take a look at Setup|Config|display-filters. It's down near the end of the Setup|Config screens. -- Glenn A. Malling Syracuse University Computing Services +1 (315) 443-4111 220 Machinery Hall Syracuse, New York 13244-1260 Postmaster for SUnix and LISTSERV. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA11205 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:34:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA00665; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:34:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA07200; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:33:06 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA15846 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:30:09 -0700 Received: from cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.83.40]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA31370 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:30:08 -0700 Message-Id: <199807251630.MAA09728@ocalhost> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 12:30:07 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: list format In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Author: Tim DiLauro Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 00:20:54 -0400 (EDT) ID: > Look at the help under "index-format" in main||setup||config. It > describes how to reformat the index display. No source code changes > required. Thanks very much for pointing that out. Another feature I was unaware of. One thing that is a little odd, at least seemingly so. When I read the online help for that, it says: The default is equivalent to: index-format=STATUS@MSGNO@DATE@FROMORTO(33%)@SIZE@SUBJECT(67%) Except the @ symbols are actually the little "c in a circle" aka the Copyright symbol. When I copied&pasted that in PINE, it turned them into @ symbols When I copied&pasted that into this email message (not PINE) it turned them into ( marks. What are they supposed to be? It seems to work with just spaces in there but I wasn't sure if there was something else that was supposed to be there, since there's apparently some symbol in the default. Thanks TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:41:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA11041 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:41:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA12755; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:41:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA07385; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:38:40 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA15860 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:35:53 -0700 Received: from cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.83.40]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA25608 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:35:52 -0700 Message-Id: <199807251635.MAA09932@ocalhost> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 12:35:49 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Help - address display in header fields (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Author: Ken Woods Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 10:03:55 -0400 (EDT) ID: > Perhaps if some of you lusers would actually take the time to RTFM, you > wouldn't have these stupid little problems. There's no FM to R in this case. Your ideas about seg/awk/grep was not really a solution. This behavior is new to PINE and the solution should be in PINE, not in having to do Unix gymnastics to get it to work. TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:46:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA11088 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA00774; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:46:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA21183; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:44:25 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA14044 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:41:35 -0700 Received: from cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.83.40]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA11273 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:41:30 -0700 Message-Id: <199807251641.MAA10105@ocalhost> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 12:41:28 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Help - address display in header fields (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199807251452.KAA27978@dormouse.syr.edu> References: <199807251452.KAA27978@dormouse.syr.edu> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Author: "Glenn A. Malling" Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 10:52:43 -0400 ID: <199807251452.KAA27978@dormouse.syr.edu> > You can prune those To: lists with a display filter. I'd really just be happy if there were a way to make PINE go back to the old behavior of putting as many addresses on one line as will fit. I agree that the new behavior looks nicer in many circumstances, but where there are a lot of addresses, fitting them more compactly would be preferable. TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:54:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA11072 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA00860; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:54:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA07874; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:53:32 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA57884 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:50:45 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA32207 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:50:44 -0700 Received: from cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.83.40]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA00830 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 09:50:42 -0700 Message-Id: <199807251650.MAA10284@ocalhost> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 12:50:36 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Problems setting up imap Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am trying to connect to an IMAP server at my ISP. Having never done this before, I looked around for a "How To" and didn't find much. Using 4.02, I went to the Incoming Message Folders screen, Added the Server name and the Path on the Server. The result was a BUSY that has spun for minutes and minutes and cannot be Cancelled (even though ^C appears on the bottom menu for Cancel) I would simply like to be able to read messages on the server, and (if possible) have access to my entire ~/mail directory on that server. Is what I tried correct? If not, can someone point me to a FM to R? TjL ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 20:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA15551 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 20:36:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA19319; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 20:36:02 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA04607; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 20:33:30 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA18388 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 20:28:52 -0700 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA15563 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 20:28:51 -0700 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA70788; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 03:28:24 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 20:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: "Colin J. Raven" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: list format In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Neil Moore , Ed Greshko X-Cc: Pine Discussion Group X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I wouldn't have known unless a friend and fellow list member had gently advised me, off-list. It was kind of that person to do so, and they have been thanked off-list "Pine with Speech" is actually a speech module (of some unknown design) that apparently enables the visually impaired to perform a variety of tasks in this visual medium. Now that I think of it, I saw something like that months ago on CNN (I think). It's probably a lifesaver for those who cannot paricipate via the conventional interface. I went off on a tear inspired, in part, by the various voice recognition packages that are cropping up (and failing to work) all over the place. The curse of Satan, IBM's "Via-Voice" comes to mind. (I stupidly loaded an early version and promptly destroyed my OS) *Then* I thought about the incongruity of such a package in the context of a bare bones text client such as Pine...and well, fatigue and literary license (coupled with a juvenile sense of humor) took over. Well, I've always felt that if you make a fool of yourself, you oughtta promptly set things to rights. That way, the world knows you're a fool, but not malicious or ignorant. I felt that I was dangerously close to the ignorant, and lest malicious got inadvertenly got tossed in there, believed the best thing was to aplogize without delay, and admit to foolishness. "Know Thyself" springs to mind I guess. Regards, -Colin. -- Colin J. Raven Operations Manager, HDS Lab, Inc. Costa Mesa, CA | Harrison, NY "Beer is better than "indent" for cleaning up sloppy code" Fred Pasternack 1952-1998 (Unix Guru and Industrial Strength Partier) On Sat, 25 Jul 1998, Neil Moore wrote: > So, since it seems like you know... What is Pine with Speech? > Thanks > Neil > > On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Colin J. Raven wrote: > > > To the List members, and Shane; > > Please accept my aplogies for a completely braindead and utterly > > insensitive, ignorant post re: Pine with speech. > > I misread and completely misunderstood the significance of "Pine with > > Speech" and i aplogize to Shane and my fellow list members for stupidity, > > fatigue induced ignorance, and foolishness in general. > > -Colin. > > -- > > Colin J. Raven > > Operations Manager, HDS Lab, Inc. > > Costa Mesa, CA | Harrison, NY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Shane Wegner wrote: > > > > > >> I am using Pine with speech and am wondering if message lists can be > > >> altered. When you press i for index, it lists messages like this > > >> number date from size subject > > >> I'd like to make it so the size isn't listed...less to read since I get > > >> over 500 emails per day it makes it easier. Can this be done? > > > > > >Shane: > > > > > >Look at the help under "index-format" in main||setup||config. It > > >describes how to reformat the index display. No source code changes > > >required. > > > > > >-timmo > > > > > >-- > > >------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >Tim DiLauro Milton S. Eisenhower Library > > >Library Systems Jack Johns Hopkins University > > >(410) 516-5263 3400 N. Charles Street > > >timmo@jhu.edu Baltimore, MD 21218 > > >------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------- Colin J. Raven HDS Lab, Inc. Operations Group Costa Mesa, CA | Harrison, NY (714) 428 0300 | (914) 835 2200 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 21:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA16255 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 21:13:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA07884; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 21:13:30 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA28034; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 21:12:13 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA53872 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 21:10:13 -0700 Received: from continuum.cm.nu (shane@00-00-c0-36-52-fa.bconnected.net [209.53.18.213]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA23194 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 21:10:09 -0700 Received: from localhost (shane@localhost) by continuum.cm.nu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA31181 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 21:10:08 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 21:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shane Wegner To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: multiple nntp servers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Info Mailing List X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, I have a local news server so I set the nntp server in pine to news.cm.nu which is basically localhost. Now I don't spool all newsgroups there so I want to define another news server for a different set of newsgroups. E.G. news.cm.nu carries comp.lang.perl.* but not comp.lang.c.* I would like to be able to use another news server (news.bctel.ca) for comp.lang.c.*. Can I do it? - -- Shane Wegner: mailto:shane@cm.nu Sysadmin, Continuum Systems: http://www.cm.nu/ Vice President, W.A.P.V.I. Personal website: http://www.cm.nu/~shane/ PGP key: finger:shane@cm.nu ICQ UIN: 15706546 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNbqsH5JJLM/l/+PBAQF6pwP/QzeozUzCLlVqf9Fsp6PrkAa3BtQSopeM YdtwqaVCjJFBQoE3V/woSP6fgWZeCCwrYxOrXmNJ9UBYSKRZJkYCsFA8JZQ7tlkD GzRnm+kXH5LY8BPBx5vJ20PqNFRAnYLsoSkL1H7NM/Jx+gpoWv7eRjpycbpgCJij SH5eOKzX3Ig= =D6WX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 21:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA08147 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 21:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA08075; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 21:31:51 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA22136; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 21:30:08 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA69302 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 21:28:15 -0700 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA07259 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 1998 21:28:14 -0700 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA46596; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 04:27:59 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 21:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: "Colin J. Raven" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Help - address display in header fields (fwd) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ken Woods X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ken, I'm glad "yours works" first of all. Secondly, I wan't defending a practice or technique. Frankly I know only the most fundamental aspects of procmail, and next to nothing about some of the exotica concerning mail transport, and the finer points of message headers. The purpose of the list (oh duh) is to discover how to accomplish certain tasks, the techniques of which elude the comprehension of certain members. That's why I'm a a member....to learn. Oh, I agree wholeheartedly with you when you state that more RTFM would answer *some* questions, and would cut down on list traffic measureably.....perhaps. This list is quieter now than previously, believe me That however is not the core issue. The level of expertise on this list is (in general) quite high. Also, sometimes members *do* ask questions that *probably* could be found via RTFM. Since the indivuiduals concerned are not clueless newbies, they may need an answer fairly rapidly because they have a serious problem on-site. I believe it's called leeway, and tolerance Ken. In short, they get answers. Sometimes that might be accompanied by a "and you can find more on this at http://someURLatUWash.edu" Come on Ken, is your time *so* precious, and are you *so* self involved that you belittle someone (seriously in my view) for not knowing that xx piece of information *might* reside on *some* directory *somewehere* in the public domain?? I might remind you that the first line of your resume at http://www.kens.com is; "To apply current technical expertise while continuing growth of knowledge and skills." I took the time to look at your site because I couldn't believe the level of arrogance you brought to that exchange with Tim. Your skillset is indeed impressive, and without doubt you are miles ahead of me (for starters) in general and specific technical knowledge. Tell me this though, *How did you learn all that?* Did someone try to cut you into filets verbally if you asked a question, when the answer could be found in a book?? How can you continue to grow your knowledge and skills, when the humility necessary for true acquisition of knowledge is clearly absent. Then again, as Dennis Miller has been known to say; "That's just my opinion....I could be wrong". Regards, -Colin. -- Colin J. Raven Operations Manager, HDS Lab, Inc. Costa Mesa, CA | Harrison, NY "There aren't enough DIMM slots in my machine to even think of running Xemacs, I'm gonna have eight more beers and fire up LaTeX" *Fred Pasternack 1952-1998 (Unix Guru and Industrial Strength Partier) On Sat, 25 Jul 1998, Ken Woods wrote: > > Ok, you win. > I'm wrong, you're right. > (this is entirely too much trouble, and like I said, mine works.) > > Perhaps if some of you lusers would actually take the time to RTFM, you > wouldn't have these stupid little problems. > > > > On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Colin J. Raven wrote: > > > Ken, > > The definition of brilliance is not what you know, but the graciousness with > > which you overlook the shortcomings of others. > > You are clearly having a stressful day, night...and maybe have taken some > > medication which is causing your antisocial behaviour. That's OK Ken, we > > understand that you may be unable to control your keyboard Tourette > > Syndrome. > > I vivdly recall once being in the grip of that accursed disorder. It caused > > me to periodically experience uncontrollable trembling, and a tendency to > > utter (and type) inappropriate things like; "Underpants on Fire" for no > > particular reason. > > We feel your pain Ken, acutely. In fact your pain is causing us all pain! > > May I recommend therapy, perhaps hand hacking Xconfig files for two weeks > > straight until your affliction has subsided? > > ---- > > BTW, although *I* might well be described as a "clueless f*&ck" because I am > > NOT a programming genius as you clearly are, (in fact you must be the Albert > > Einstein of programming based upon your insufferable arrogance, and > > disgustingly inappropriate language) BUT, the gentleman (and he is a > > gentleman BTW) who replied to you is not clueless as you suggest. Instead, > > he engaged you in a discussion, and from a position of knowledge I might > > add. > > Ken, get a life, a wife, a prescription...something. No-one on this list has > > any time for your behaviour. You will be procmailed out of most people's > > Inboxes I rather suspect (including my own) Your behaviour is pathetic and > > unforgivable. > > You owe the list members an apology, and should really address your manner > > of communicating via email. It is in a word UNACCEPTABLE! > > Good Night Sir, I hope your hard drive crashes, your connection dies, and > > your Motherboard takes the Mother of all dumps. You deserve no less. > > -Colin. > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > > > > >> Author: Ken Woods > > >> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:50:19 -0400 (EDT) > > >> ID: > > >> > > >> > man procmail > > >> > man awk > > >> > man sed > > >> > man egrep > > >> > > > >> > Thanks for playing, please try again. > > >> > > >> Ken, really, take a pill. > > >> > > >> It's an annoying change, and it is due to PINE. > > >> > > >> I've got a message which is _fine_ but when PINE gets ahold of > > >it, it screws > > >> it up. procmail et al are USELESS as was your response in this > > >situation. > > > > > >BULLSHIT!!!! > > >You have _NO_ clue what you are talking about. > > >Set up a procmail recipe, grep the To: info, awk anything other than the > > >first address out. > > >Simple. > > > > > >OR, as I said in my _ORIGINAL_ post, just press ctrl-v. > > > > > >> Would you like a copy of the message with hundreds of addresses > > >that now > > >> scrolls dozens of times more than it needs to? > > > > > >No. > > >As I said in my pervious response, I don't care. > > >Mine works. > > > > > > > > > > > >> I'm all for getting people to read the FAQ or checking DejaNews, > > >but when > > >> someone asks a legit question that hasn't been answered before > > >describing an > > >> annoying new behavior, must you spout off? > > > > > >Whatever. > > >Go away. > > > > > >> And if so, could you at least > > >> attempt to grasp the problem enough to give a suggestion that > > >would have a > > >> chance in hell of helping, rather than blathering off about man > > >pages to > > >> programs which won't help the situation? > > > > > >See above, you clueless fuck. > > > > > >Ken Woods > > >kwoodskens.com > > > > > > > > > > Ken Woods > kwoodskens.com > > ---------------------------------- Colin J. Raven HDS Lab, Inc. Operations Group Costa Mesa, CA | Harrison, NY (714) 428 0300 | (914) 835 2200 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 02:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA17162 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 02:20:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA22775; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 02:20:43 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA09737; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 02:19:10 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA13870 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 02:17:01 -0700 Received: from pump2.york.ac.uk (pump2.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.12]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA31128 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 02:17:00 -0700 Received: from pippin.york.ac.uk (pippin.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.9]) by pump2.york.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA13548; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 10:16:51 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <55127.3110437011@pippin.york.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 10:16:51 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Help - address display in header fields (fwd) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Shawn Jeffries X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi! --On Fri, Jul 24, 1998 4:40 pm -0400 Shawn Jeffries wrote: > If you got mail lists 50 people long, you'd try to find a fix. > > Shawn Jeffries > shawn_jeffries@vetri.com May I take the liberty of ignoring the majority of "highly informative" responses in this thread and instead suggest another possible (better?) solution... If you are receiving messages with very long recipient lists then, rather than have each and every recipient either silently suffering or trying to figure out a workaround, the better solution might be to get the problem fixed "at source"? You might like to contact the people responsible for sending out the messages and ask they start lisiting the recipients using the "Bcc:" header rather than the "To:" or "Cc:" headers. As you probably know "To:" is for listing the prime recipients of the message, with carbon-copies (eg, for "information only" purposes) being listsed in the "Cc:" header. The often overlooked "Bcc:" (Blind Carbon Copy) can be used to list recipients *but* with the addition that the entire recipient list is removed from the delivered copyof the message. This means that you wouldn't get to see the list of 50+ recipients in your message at all! (It also has the added advantage of preventing the dreaded "reply-to-all" problem, where people reply to the every recipient rather than just the original poster.) Note that if you do use "Bcc:" you should ensure that there is at least one valid address given in the "To:" header too; otherwise some brain-dead mail delivery agents throw a wobbly and insert each and every supposedly concealed "Bcc:" recipient in a series of "Apparently-to:" headers (which rather defeats the object! :-) A useful trick to know, if you don't want to put a real e-mail address in the "To:" field, is to put in a string (usually a descriptive name of the list or just something like "Various recipients") with the magic sequence :; at its end. For example: Bcc: Various recipients:; Most mail delivery software will recognise this as being a valid address but which doesn't need anything delivering to it. (I think it's called something like "group syntax" ... I forget.) Cheers, Mike B-) -- The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, Yo10 5DD, UK Tel:+44-1904-433811 Fax:+44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ ******* Unsolicited commercial/bulk e-mail is NOT welcome here! ******* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 05:09:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA24781 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 05:09:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA24814; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 05:09:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA27795; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 05:08:36 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA29772 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 05:06:14 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA01327 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 05:06:12 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 20:06:06 +0800 Message-Id: <000901bdb88d$c343ec70$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 20:06:04 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Help - address display in header fields (fwd) In-Reply-To: <55127.3110437011@pippin.york.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Mike Brudenell" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Mike, > May I take the liberty of ignoring the majority of "highly informative" > responses in this thread and instead suggest another possible (better?) > solution... Yes, you may. :-) > If you are receiving messages with very long recipient lists then, rather > than have each and every recipient either silently suffering or trying to > figure out a workaround, the better solution might be to get the problem > fixed "at source"? [Very good suggestions removed for brevity] The "source" the problem for me are often people in other companies. Some of these are a level where I'd rather not risk offending them or troubling them with technical questions or details they are bound to ask...yet not understand. Basically, I see the source of the problem to be the new display routine. It hadn't bothered me during the beta test period, but then again I didn't get such an email during the beta test. By and large, I can see no drawback in having multiple names on the same line but I can agree that there are drawbacks in the new format. So, if there are no bugs or unstated drawback with returning to the old format I'd simply like to see that happen. Regards, Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 12:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA27582 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 12:49:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA17786; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 12:49:49 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA07683; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 12:48:03 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA39794 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 12:45:39 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id MAA08437 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 12:45:39 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA03332; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 14:45:12 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 14:45:12 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Ken's strange approach In-Reply-To: <199807260704.AAA24650@lists4.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN It was painful but amusing to watch the greatest explosion of stupidity and arrogance that I've ever seen on a mailing list. The original question was perfectly reasonable and Ken Wood's responses did not answer the original question. Why would Ken even send his message? If Ken wants people to know who he is, he's succeeded. I saw his web page at www.kens.com. It looks like he wants to get a job. If asked, what could I say now about Ken? He knows a lot, but not enough, and he's too arrogant and mean to help people with their computing problems: Don't hire Ken. Congratulations Ken, you've made a complete fool of yourself in front of everyone. Mike Michael B. Miller, M.S., Ph.D., M.P.E. Department of Psychology 210 McAlester Hall University of Missouri--Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 Phone: (573) 882-5671 Fax: (573) 882-7710 e-mail: mbmiller@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu web: http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 13:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA27627 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 13:40:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA18348; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 13:40:17 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA20838; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 13:38:25 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA29488 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 13:36:13 -0700 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA10331 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 13:36:13 -0700 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA65770 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 20:36:04 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 13:36:02 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: "Colin J. Raven" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Ken's strange approach In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN If anyone has procmail set up, this is the perfect way to silently banish Ken, his rantings, profanity, and generally offensive behavior... :0: *^From:.*@kens.com /dev/null Then, I did some reading (Ken, it's called RTFM OK?) and came up with the following, which is probably *the* correct way to deal with the Kens of this world...tank their mail, and autorespond 'em, informing them of said fact! # This recipe will generate an autoreply header and bounce this # nastygram back # to the sender. # Note the lack of a c flag which means that we never see this mail. :0 * ^From: .*@kens.com | (formail -brt ; \ echo "I'm ignoring your mail because you are offensive." ;\ echo "Your email was automatically rejected by Procmail." ;\ echo "Sooner or later, you will learn humility." ;\ echo ""; \ echo " -me" ;\ ) | $SENDMAIL -oi -t ## This recipe was created by Joe Gross (jgross@uiuc.edu) and can be found ## in the public domain at; ## http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/workshops/procmail/bounce.html Oh well, back to the farm. The stables need cleaning, and the tractor is making starnge noises. It may require some maintenance :-) -Colin On Sun, 26 Jul 1998, Mike Miller wrote: > It was painful but amusing to watch the greatest explosion of stupidity > and arrogance that I've ever seen on a mailing list. The original > question was perfectly reasonable and Ken Wood's responses did not answer > the original question. Why would Ken even send his message? If Ken wants > people to know who he is, he's succeeded. I saw his web page at > www.kens.com. It looks like he wants to get a job. If asked, what could > I say now about Ken? He knows a lot, but not enough, and he's too > arrogant and mean to help people with their computing problems: Don't > hire Ken. Congratulations Ken, you've made a complete fool of yourself in > front of everyone. > > Mike > > Michael B. Miller, M.S., Ph.D., M.P.E. > Department of Psychology > 210 McAlester Hall > University of Missouri--Columbia > Columbia, MO 65211 > Phone: (573) 882-5671 > Fax: (573) 882-7710 > e-mail: mbmiller@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu > web: http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------- Colin J. Raven HDS Lab, Inc. Operations Group Costa Mesa, CA | Harrison, NY (714) 428 0300 | (914) 835 2200 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 13:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA28053 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 13:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA18425; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 13:49:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA13921; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 13:48:25 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA38650 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 13:45:59 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA17211 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 13:45:58 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by kens.com (8.8.8/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA01062; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 16:45:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 16:45:59 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Ken Woods Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Ken's strange approach In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Miller X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 26 Jul 1998, Mike Miller wrote: > It was painful but amusing to watch the greatest explosion of stupidity > and arrogance that I've ever seen on a mailing list. The original > question was perfectly reasonable and Ken Wood's responses did not answer > the original question. Why would Ken even send his message? If Ken wants > people to know who he is, he's succeeded. I saw his web page at > www.kens.com. It looks like he wants to get a job. If asked, what could > I say now about Ken? He knows a lot, but not enough, and he's too > arrogant and mean to help people with their computing problems: Don't > hire Ken. Congratulations Ken, you've made a complete fool of yourself in > front of everyone. */1 * * * * root echo " " |mail mbmiller@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu Simon Travaglias, where are you when we need you???? -- Ken Woods kwoodskens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 15:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA12621 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 15:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA01352; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 15:40:45 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA11900; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 15:39:03 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA58094 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 15:36:31 -0700 Received: from sasami.jurai.net (winter@sasami.jurai.net [207.153.65.3]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA14954 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 15:36:30 -0700 Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA02209; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 18:36:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 18:36:28 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Ken's strange approach In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ken Woods X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 26 Jul 1998, Ken Woods wrote: > */1 * * * * root echo " " |mail mbmiller@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu > > Simon Travaglias, where are you when we need you???? Ken, I'd post from the bofh.net address if I cared enough about this reply. What you ahve suggested is a denial of service attack which probably violates the terms of service agreement you signed with your provider. While your actions are fairly childish and silly, I'm sure the sysadmin of your site would be able to show you a sufficiently BOFHly response to your childishness. Grow up. -- /* Matthew N. Dodd | A memory retaining a love you had for life winter@jurai.net | As cruel as it seems nothing ever seems to http://www.jurai.net/~winter | go right - FLA M 3.1:53 */ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 17:33:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA29618 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 17:33:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA02561; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 17:33:43 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA12625; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 17:31:57 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA12890 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 17:29:00 -0700 Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA04303 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 17:28:59 -0700 Received: from slip202-135-14-44.sy.au.ibm.net (slip202-135-14-44.sy.au.ibm.net [202.135.14.44]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA44704 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 00:28:27 GMT Received: (from dexter@localhost) by aehf50.mail (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id KAA85790; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 10:17:45 +1000 (EET) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 10:17:45 +1000 (EET) Reply-To: aeh0001@ibm.net Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: aeh0001@ibm.net To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Info List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: out1.ibm.net: slip202-135-14-44.sy.au.ibm.net [202.135.14.44] didn't use HELO protocol X-Sender: dexter@localhost X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Pls can you remove aeh001@ibm.net from the mail list. Many thanks, Dexter ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 18:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA15936 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 18:51:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA21680; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 18:51:19 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA19929; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 18:49:36 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA57974 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 18:46:50 -0700 Received: from jhuml1.hcf.jhu.edu (jhuml1.hcf.jhu.edu [128.220.2.86]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA29177 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 18:46:50 -0700 Received: from RacerX.mse.jhu.edu by jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #26381) with SMTP id <01IZVDSOLW5IBXILXZ@jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 21:46:20 EDT Received: from localhost by RacerX.mse.jhu.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/07Dec94-1133AM) id AA15654; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 21:46:29 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 21:46:29 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Tim DiLauro To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: list format In-Reply-To: <199807251630.MAA09728@ocalhost> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Timothy J Luoma X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 25 Jul 1998, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > Look at the help under "index-format" in main||setup||config. It > > describes how to reformat the index display. No source code changes > > required. > > Thanks very much for pointing that out. Another feature I was unaware of. > > One thing that is a little odd, at least seemingly so. > > When I read the online help for that, it says: > > The default is equivalent to: > > index-format=STATUS@MSGNO@DATE@FROMORTO(33%)@SIZE@SUBJECT(67%) > > Except the @ symbols are actually the little "c in a circle" aka the > Copyright symbol. > > When I copied&pasted that in PINE, it turned them into @ symbols > > When I copied&pasted that into this email message (not PINE) it > turned them into ( marks. > > What are they supposed to be? It seems to work with just spaces in > there but I wasn't sure if there was something else that was supposed to be > there, since there's apparently some symbol in the default. You should put spaces between the element names. This is in the help also. -timmo -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim DiLauro Milton S. Eisenhower Library Library Systems Jack Johns Hopkins University (410) 516-5263 3400 N. Charles Street timmo@jhu.edu Baltimore, MD 21218 ------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 19:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA20240 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 19:15:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA03539; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 19:15:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA14515; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 19:14:40 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA58008 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 19:12:16 -0700 Received: from jhuml1.hcf.jhu.edu (jhuml1.hcf.jhu.edu [128.220.2.86]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA23690 for ; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 19:12:15 -0700 Received: from RacerX.mse.jhu.edu by jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #26381) with SMTP id <01IZVEPFPVEWBWJBNJ@jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 22:11:56 EDT Received: from localhost by RacerX.mse.jhu.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/07Dec94-1133AM) id AA15725; Sun, 26 Jul 1998 22:12:03 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 22:12:03 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Tim DiLauro To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Problems setting up imap In-Reply-To: <199807251650.MAA10284@ocalhost> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 25 Jul 1998, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > I am trying to connect to an IMAP server at my ISP. > > Having never done this before, I looked around for a "How To" and didn't find much. > > Using 4.02, I went to the Incoming Message Folders screen, Added the Server > name and the Path on the Server. > > The result was a > > BUSY > > that has spun for minutes and minutes and cannot be Cancelled (even though > ^C appears on the bottom menu for Cancel) > > > I would simply like to be able to read messages on the server, and (if > possible) have access to my entire ~/mail directory on that server. > > Is what I tried correct? If not, can someone point me to a FM to R? Go to Mainmenu||Setup||Config and specify the value of inbox-path as {mailbox-host}INBOX. The braces are important and must remain. Replace mailbox-host with the fully-qualified domain name (FQDN) or your ISP's mail host. So, you're definition looks like: {mail.peak.org}inbox This info is available in the context help for inbox-path on the config screen and in the Valid Folder Names hyperlink off that help page. -timmo -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim DiLauro Milton S. Eisenhower Library Library Systems Jack Johns Hopkins University (410) 516-5263 3400 N. Charles Street timmo@jhu.edu Baltimore, MD 21218 ------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 06:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA30986 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 06:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA10924; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 06:13:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA27381; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 06:01:36 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA52716 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 05:56:48 -0700 Received: from therock.mcg.edu (TheRock.mcg.edu [158.93.1.117]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA30279 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 05:56:48 -0700 Received: from localhost (greg@localhost) by therock.mcg.edu (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id IAA24128; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 08:56:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 08:56:43 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Greg Sutherland To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Still Mailbox vulnerability on PINE4.01... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Peter Green X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm seeing the problem with pine 4.02 on AIX4.2.1. I've looked at all the permissions I could think of. I don't have the problem with pine 3.96 on the same box. If anyone has solved this problem please let us know. ||||When|responding,|please|include|enough|of|the|contents|of|||| || || || Greg Sutherland Mail greg@therock.mcg.edu || || Systems Administrator Phone 706/721-3849 || || Medical College of Georgia Fax 706/721-7634 || || || |||the|original|note|so|that|I|know|what|you|are|responding|to||| On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, Peter Green wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jul 1998, SuperVisor de PINE wrote: > > > > > Hello, I'm volunteer tester of PINE software into two systems: AIX4.1/3.2 > > and NeXTstep 3.0 and I still see some extrange messages refering to > > Mailbox vulnerability just on AIX4.1 like this: > > > > Mailbox vulnerable - error creating /var/spool/mail/august.lock.901321877.1898 > > I use pine 4.02 on AIX 4.2.1 and I haven't seen these messages. However, I > *have* seen them on (at least) pine 4.00 on a RedHat 5.1 machine. Could it > be a permissions thing or a different locking mechanism or what? > > /pg > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 07:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA07011 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 07:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA00341; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 07:29:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA05616; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 07:25:37 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA52502 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 07:22:09 -0700 Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA24959 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 07:22:08 -0700 Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA15038 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 10:20:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 10:20:52 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Jim Sander Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jim Sander To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Ken's strange approach In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > On Sun, 26 Jul 1998, Ken Woods wrote: > > */1 * * * * root echo " " |mail mbmiller@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu > What you ahve suggested is a denial of service attack which probably > violates the terms of service agreement you signed with your provider. From the looks of things, he probably *is* the sysadmin of his site, and in fact for several other sites on the Verio network. It looks like they buy their bandwidth from digex, which has an acceptable use policy strictly forbidding such things- so just forward his message to abuse@digex.net, and/or support@digex.net (I am about to do so) and we'll see what *they* have to say about that. Even more effective though, would be a letter to the higher-ups at verio.net that tell them exactly what kind of employee they have. (unless he made up all that stuff on his resume of course) How's this... If enough people write, it *will* be noticed. ----- Greetings, I've been assessing several companies to provide my site with internet services, and was strongly considering yours- that is until I came across postings from one of your employees named Ken Woods. His childishness and obscenity have caused me to remove your company from the list of those I was considering. I hope that he is not typical of people you employ, but I can not take the risk that you would tolerate this illegal, unethical activity at your site perpetrated by one of your workers. I just wanted to make this known to you. Sincerely, ----- I'm pretty tired of this discussion. If we ignore him, eventually he'll go away. If we have to waste too much more time talking about things no related to pine I suggest we do some mass-mailing of our own and see how things shape up then. -=Jim=- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 08:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA30280 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 08:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA13212; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 08:29:50 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA09018; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 08:26:58 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA53886 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 08:23:33 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA23377 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 08:23:31 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 23:23:25 +0800 Message-Id: <001601bdb972$7cf5dd60$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 23:23:20 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Now...back to our regularly scheduled program MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I know how much fun it can be...but the purpose of the list is to discuss issues related to "pine". Can we now dispense with discussing Ken? And please, refrain from responding to this "call to order" in this forum. Thanks, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce GSM: +65-9751-0860 Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 08:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA05391 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 08:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA02139; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 08:46:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA15287; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 08:22:43 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA13928 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 08:19:24 -0700 Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [207.153.65.3]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA22979 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 08:19:24 -0700 Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA14187; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:19:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:19:16 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Ken's strange approach In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jim Sander X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 27 Jul 1998, Jim Sander wrote: > > On Sun, 26 Jul 1998, Ken Woods wrote: > > > */1 * * * * root echo " " |mail mbmiller@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu > > > What you ahve suggested is a denial of service attack which probably > > violates the terms of service agreement you signed with your provider. > > From the looks of things, he probably *is* the sysadmin of his site, > and in fact for several other sites on the Verio network. It looks like > they buy their bandwidth from digex, which has an acceptable use policy > strictly forbidding such things- so just forward his message to > abuse@digex.net, and/or support@digex.net (I am about to do so) and we'll > see what *they* have to say about that. *sigh* Why do you think Verio is only a Digex customer? From where I'm sitting it looks like they buy lines from a number of tier 2 providers. Regardless, taking action before he actually commits any attack is pointless as its fairly difficult to prove intent. Ken probably knows better than to actually do these sorts of things. I reacted strongly because someone threatening to launch a DOS attack should be taken seriously. > Even more effective though, would be a letter to the higher-ups at > verio.net that tell them exactly what kind of employee they have. > (unless he made up all that stuff on his resume of course) How's > this... If enough people write, it *will* be noticed. Again, Ken is doing this on his dime and with his hardware and net connectivity. If he's good at what he does is Verio going to care that they have an asshole working for them? Probably not. At no point did Ken represent Verio in this discussion. Just let it drop; filter Ken if you can't resist being insulted when he mouths off. All this fuss is playing down to him, which was his intent in the first place. > ----- > Greetings, > > I've been assessing several companies to provide my site with internet > services, and was strongly considering yours- that is until I came across > postings from one of your employees named Ken Woods. > > > > His childishness and obscenity have caused me to remove your company > from the list of those I was considering. I hope that he is not typical > of people you employ, but I can not take the risk that you would tolerate > this illegal, unethical activity at your site perpetrated by one of your > workers. I just wanted to make this known to you. > > Sincerely, > > ----- > > I'm pretty tired of this discussion. If we ignore him, eventually he'll > go away. If we have to waste too much more time talking about things no > related to pine I suggest we do some mass-mailing of our own and see how > things shape up then. ??? -- /* Matthew N. Dodd | A memory retaining a love you had for life winter@jurai.net | As cruel as it seems nothing ever seems to http://www.jurai.net/~winter | go right - FLA M 3.1:53 */ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:15:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA09379 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:15:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA14579; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:15:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA05573; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:12:19 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA70986 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:08:36 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id JAA28471 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:08:36 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA03912; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:08:08 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:08:08 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PINE-INFO digest 393 In-Reply-To: <199807270704.AAA03763@lists2.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thanks for this excellent bit of information (in your appended message). One question: When you wrote the following... > A useful trick to know, if you don't want to put a real e-mail address in > the "To:" field, is to put in a string (usually a descriptive name of the > list or just something like "Various recipients") with the magic sequence > :; > at its end. For example: > Bcc: Various recipients:; ...did you really mean to put this in the Bcc: field? Or should it go in the To: field? Thanks much! Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 10:16:51 +0100 > From: Mike Brudenell > To: Shawn Jeffries > Cc: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Re: Help - address display in header fields (fwd) > Message-ID: <55127.3110437011@pippin.york.ac.uk> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hi! > > --On Fri, Jul 24, 1998 4:40 pm -0400 Shawn Jeffries > wrote: > > > If you got mail lists 50 people long, you'd try to find a fix. > > > > Shawn Jeffries > > shawn_jeffries@vetri.com > > May I take the liberty of ignoring the majority of "highly informative" > responses in this thread and instead suggest another possible (better?) > solution... > > If you are receiving messages with very long recipient lists then, rather > than have each and every recipient either silently suffering or trying to > figure out a workaround, the better solution might be to get the problem > fixed "at source"? > > You might like to contact the people responsible for sending out the > messages and ask they start lisiting the recipients using the "Bcc:" header > rather than the "To:" or "Cc:" headers. > > As you probably know "To:" is for listing the prime recipients of the > message, with carbon-copies (eg, for "information only" purposes) being > listsed in the "Cc:" header. > > The often overlooked "Bcc:" (Blind Carbon Copy) can be used to list > recipients *but* with the addition that the entire recipient list is removed > from the delivered copyof the message. This means that you wouldn't get to > see the list of 50+ recipients in your message at all! (It also has the > added advantage of preventing the dreaded "reply-to-all" problem, where > people reply to the every recipient rather than just the original poster.) > > Note that if you do use "Bcc:" you should ensure that there is at least one > valid address given in the "To:" header too; otherwise some brain-dead mail > delivery agents throw a wobbly and insert each and every supposedly > concealed "Bcc:" recipient in a series of "Apparently-to:" headers (which > rather defeats the object! :-) > > A useful trick to know, if you don't want to put a real e-mail address in > the "To:" field, is to put in a string (usually a descriptive name of the > list or just something like "Various recipients") with the magic sequence > :; > at its end. For example: > Bcc: Various recipients:; > > Most mail delivery software will recognise this as being a valid address but > which doesn't need anything delivering to it. (I think it's called > something like "group syntax" ... I forget.) > > Cheers, > > Mike B-) > -- > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, Yo10 5DD, UK > Tel:+44-1904-433811 Fax:+44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > ******* Unsolicited commercial/bulk e-mail is NOT welcome here! ******* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:18:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA16985 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA14659; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:18:38 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA17735; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:16:29 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA69374 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:12:55 -0700 Received: from neviim.torah.org (brozen@neviim.torah.org [207.239.101.202]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA09905 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:12:54 -0700 Received: from localhost (brozen@localhost) by neviim.torah.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA28002; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 12:12:21 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 19:12:21 +0300 (IDT) Reply-To: Brock Rozen Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Brock Rozen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Still Mailbox vulnerability on PINE4.01... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Matthew Kelly X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Backup: Disable X-URL: http://www.torah.org/~brozen X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN But now Pine is complaining (after I fixed that) about my /home directory. Non-permanent unique identifiers. -- ---------------------------------- | Brock Rozen | brozen@torah.org | ---------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA09547 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA14722; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:21:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA05987; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:19:47 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA85216 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:14:59 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id JAA21551 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:14:53 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA03922; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:14:25 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:14:25 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PINE-INFO digest 393 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm very sorry about that last message! That was meant for the original sender only. My mistake. Mike From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:25:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA09572 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA03176; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:24:55 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA11517; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:23:07 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA53778 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:15:05 -0700 Received: from apogee.whack.org (mail@apogee.whack.org [209.152.153.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA04114 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:15:04 -0700 Received: from apogee ([209.152.153.2] ident=bruno) by apogee.whack.org with smtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 0z0pnv-0006XX-00; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:07:15 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Bruno To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Still Mailbox vulnerability on PINE4.01... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Greg Sutherland X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: bruno@apogee X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 27 Jul 1998, Greg Sutherland wrote: > I'm seeing the problem with pine 4.02 on AIX4.2.1. I've looked at all the > permissions I could think of. I don't have the problem with pine 3.96 on > the same box. If anyone has solved this problem please let us know. chmod 1777 /var/mail ____________________________________________ Bruno bruno@whack.org ____________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA12401 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA07349; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:27:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA24656; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:22:09 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA34558 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:19:46 -0700 Received: from therock.mcg.edu (TheRock.mcg.edu [158.93.1.117]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA19530 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:19:44 -0700 Received: from localhost (greg@localhost) by therock.mcg.edu (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id OAA31916; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 14:19:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 14:19:38 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Greg Sutherland To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Still Mailbox vulnerability on PINE4.01... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bruno X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Bruno, Thanks for the response. I set /var/spool/mail to 1777 which took care of the error message. I notice that it also opens up /var/spool/mail for temporary storage for anyone who wants to use it and it makes it possible for someone to distroy their own inbox. I don't see these as serious problems, but I wonder what serious problems were in pine3.96 that make this a better way? greg On Mon, 27 Jul 1998, Bruno wrote: > chmod 1777 /var/mail > > ____________________________________________ > > Bruno bruno@whack.org > ____________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA05605 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA19594; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:56:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA26432; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:52:34 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA55010 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:50:33 -0700 Received: from apogee.whack.org (mail@apogee.whack.org [209.152.153.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA28573 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:50:30 -0700 Received: from apogee ([209.152.153.2] ident=bruno) by apogee.whack.org with smtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 0z0sEM-0005Le-00; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:42:42 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Bruno To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Still Mailbox vulnerability on PINE4.01... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Greg Sutherland X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: bruno@apogee X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 27 Jul 1998, Greg Sutherland wrote: > Bruno, Thanks for the response. I set /var/spool/mail to 1777 which took > care of the error message. I notice that it also opens up /var/spool/mail > for temporary storage for anyone who wants to use it and it makes > it possible for someone to distroy their own inbox. I don't see these > as serious problems, but I wonder what serious problems were in pine3.96 > that make this a better way? This problem was still there in Pine 3.96, pine just didn't display the error message until 4.x :) So, the main reason to implement the mode change on /var/mail/ would be to get rid of this error message. The locking shouldn't be too catastrophic given if a user is reading their e-mail in pine, they would presumably not be using pop at the same time or using simultaneous (and multiple) occurences of pine. As far as the 1777 setting on your mail spool directory.. Users should have been able to delete their own inbox before since their mailbox is owned and writable by them. Yes, this does open up /var/mail/ for temp storage, but this isn't the end of the world. We're running nightly crons that not only make sure proper permissions are set on all of the spool files, but it also deletes any spool files that do not have a corresponding user entry in the passwwd [file|table]. Good luck. :) ____________________________________________ Bruno bruno@whack.org ____________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 13:56:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA13456 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 13:56:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA22868; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 13:56:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA02453; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 13:54:22 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA27028 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 13:51:25 -0700 Received: from uu7.psi.com (uu7.psi.com [38.8.39.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA21712 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 13:51:23 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uu7.psi.com (8.8.8/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) with UUCP id UAA12480 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 20:51:19 GMT Received: by jandr.com (8.6.13/200.19.1.1) id QAA05240; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 16:34:51 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 16:34:51 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe DiBenedetto To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Help - address display in header fields (fwd) In-Reply-To: <55127.3110437011@pippin.york.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Brudenell X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: joed@jrmusic X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 26 Jul 1998, Mike Brudenell wrote: > A useful trick to know, if you don't want to put a real e-mail address in > the "To:" field, is to put in a string (usually a descriptive name of the > list or just something like "Various recipients") with the magic sequence > :; > at its end. For example: > Bcc: Various recipients:; > > Most mail delivery software will recognise this as being a valid address but > which doesn't need anything delivering to it. (I think it's called > something like "group syntax" ... I forget.) Love the idea, but one problem...Pine seperates the : and ; by a space after you type in "Various recipients:;" so it ends up looking like this: To: Various recipients: ; Unfortunately, sendmail bounces a copy of the message back to me as undeliverable, even though it does deliver the message to the Bcc: list. I've tried everything short of gluing the : and ; together, to no avail. Any suggestions? Joe:D From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 14:48:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA15514 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 14:48:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA13059; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 14:48:18 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA20954; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 14:43:06 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA15704 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 14:40:54 -0700 Received: from equake.geol.vt.edu (equake.geol.vt.edu [128.173.184.42]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA09967 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 14:40:53 -0700 Received: from localhost (snoke@localhost) by equake.geol.vt.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA02337 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 17:40:52 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 17:40:51 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Arthur Snoke To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Using Lcc to suppress lists, display names MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: snoke@equake X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I may be missing something, but it looks like a few people have overlooked something which I had to have pointed out to me. The Lcc: header entry allows one to suppress the individual names on a distribution list yet automattically have the full name of the list appear in the "to: column on incoming mail to the list memebers. One creates a distribution list using the A screen. If you have the default header options for your outgoing mail, compose a message to your list and enter ^R (rich headers) when the cursor is in the header region. But your nickname for the distribution list in the Lcc: line and nothing else. When you enter carriage return, it will display your list members, but they will not appear when the mail is delivered to the addressees. If you want to have the Lcc: appear automatically in your header set, you can change your preferences to make it happen. ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 00:21:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA13111 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 00:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id AAA22456; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 00:20:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id AAA09956; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 00:19:42 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id AAA29820 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 00:17:14 -0700 Received: from gator.zkb.ch (gator.zkb.ch [194.209.136.6]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id AAA21551 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 00:17:13 -0700 Received: (from smap@localhost) by gator.zkb.ch (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7.1) id JAA15424 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:18:21 +0200 (CEsT) Received: from mime.zkb.ch(147.50.209.17) by gator via smap (V1.3) id sma069208; Tue Jul 28 09:17:54 1998 Received: from jupiter.zkb.ch (unverified) by harde_p01mime.li.zkb.ch (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:19:32 +0200 Received: from power3.li.zkb.ch ([147.50.38.50]) by jupiter.zkb.ch (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA17834 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:16:34 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:16:35 +0200 (CUT) Reply-To: Haenni Andre Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "haenni andre" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Still Mailbox vulnerability on PINE4.01... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: t588@power3.li.zkb.ch X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I just checked this feature, as I'm still running pine 3.96 on my site. OK, pine 3.96 doesn't lock the inbox, but this isn't a problem, really, because pine 3.96 DOES check inbox access, using some sort of virtual locking. As soon as a new process tries to open inbox, pine writes back the latest changes, hands its virtual locking over to the newly started process, and sets the old session read-only. The following message appears on the old session: [Another Pine is accessing Inbox. Session now Read-Only.] In fact, for people logging in from another terminal this is quite a useful feature, as it eliminates the need to kill the old process first. Why not allowing something similar in pine 4.x? Regards, Andre : andre.haenni@zkb.ch ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 27 Jul 1998, Bruno wrote: > On Mon, 27 Jul 1998, Greg Sutherland wrote: > > > Bruno, Thanks for the response. I set /var/spool/mail to 1777 which took > > care of the error message. I notice that it also opens up /var/spool/mail > > for temporary storage for anyone who wants to use it and it makes > > it possible for someone to distroy their own inbox. I don't see these > > as serious problems, but I wonder what serious problems were in pine3.96 > > that make this a better way? > > This problem was still there in Pine 3.96, pine just didn't display the > error message until 4.x :) So, the main reason to implement the mode > change on /var/mail/ would be to get rid of this error message. The > locking shouldn't be too catastrophic given if a user is reading their > e-mail in pine, they would presumably not be using pop at the same time or > using simultaneous (and multiple) occurences of pine. > > As far as the 1777 setting on your mail spool directory.. Users should > have been able to delete their own inbox before since their mailbox is > owned and writable by them. Yes, this does open up /var/mail/ for temp > storage, but this isn't the end of the world. We're running nightly crons > that not only make sure proper permissions are set on all of the spool > files, but it also deletes any spool files that do not have a > corresponding user entry in the passwwd [file|table]. > > Good luck. :) > > ____________________________________________ > > Bruno bruno@whack.org > ____________________________________________ > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 01:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA26205 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 01:50:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA04353; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 01:50:24 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA11155; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 01:47:52 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA29764 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 01:45:51 -0700 Received: from pump2.york.ac.uk (pump2.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.12]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA10177 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 01:45:49 -0700 Received: from pippin.york.ac.uk (pippin.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.9]) by pump2.york.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA09962; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:45:37 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <196766.3110607937@pippin.york.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:45:37 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PINE-INFO digest 393 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Mike Miller X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN AAAARRGGHHHHHH!!! --On Mon, Jul 27, 1998 11:08 am -0500 Mike Miller wrote: > Thanks for this excellent bit of information (in your appended message). > One question: When you wrote the following... > > >> A useful trick to know, if you don't want to put a real e-mail address in >> the "To:" field, is to put in a string (usually a descriptive name of the >> list or just something like "Various recipients") with the magic sequence >> :; >> at its end. For example: >> Bcc: Various recipients:; > > > ...did you really mean to put this in the Bcc: field? Or should it go in > the To: field? Yup, it shouls indeed go in the "To:" field: the whole point is to have a valid address there to appease the brain-dead mail delivery agents and their "Apparntly-to:" headers. Sigh. OK... So let me throw in one other gem that people often don't find out about. Whilst the "To:/Cc:/Bcc:" header information should apply to virtually any mail client this one is, as far as I am aware, specific to Pine. Along with "Bcc:" Pine also has an "Lcc:" header field. This is purpose-designed for use with Distribution Lists you set up in your Address Book. To send a message "safely" to a Distribution List you can simply use the "Lcc:" field (see below) instead of faffing on with "Bcc:" and setting up a valid-but-empty address in "To:" using the magic "Some string:;" notation. Instead you just type the Distribution List's nickname into the "Lcc:" field. When the message is sent the members of the Distribution List will be listed as recipients of the message in a "Bcc:" header. However the sneaky thing is that Pine will automatically use the full (descriptive) name of the Distribution List to construct the magic ":;" line for the "To:" header. So if you set up a Distribution List in your Pine Address Book along these lines: Nickname: netcontacts Full name: Network Maintenance People Members: abc@xyz.com, def@xyz.com, ... you can then just type "netcontacts" into the "Lcc:" field and have Pine do all the rest. If you are REALLY cunning, of course, you'll have set up an "Fcc:" folder for the Distribution List in your Address Book. Then any message you send out to "netcontacts" will be set to have a copy of your message filed into the nomianted folder instead of the generic default (usually "sent-mail"). [This also applies to Individual entries, not just Distribution Lists] NOTE: Because the full name is used in the "To:" field when a message is sent out the recipient(s) get to see it. This means you should not put anything too rude in there (unless you don't mind them seeing it!) ... save such remarks for the entry's "Comments" field! ;-) [Again, this applies to both Distribution List and Individual entries in your Address Book.] Cheers, Mike B-) -- The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, Yo10 5DD, UK Tel:+44-1904-433811 Fax:+44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ ******* Unsolicited commercial/bulk e-mail is NOT welcome here! ******* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 02:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA26609 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 02:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA23658; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 02:05:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA11572; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 02:03:58 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA72838 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 02:01:57 -0700 Received: from pump2.york.ac.uk (pump2.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.12]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA05576 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 02:01:53 -0700 Received: from pippin.york.ac.uk (pippin.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.9]) by pump2.york.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA11882; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:01:49 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <255220.3110608908@pippin.york.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:01:48 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Help - address display in header fields (fwd) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Joe DiBenedetto X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN --On Mon, Jul 27, 1998 4:34 pm -0400 Joe DiBenedetto wrote: > Love the idea, but one problem...Pine seperates the : and ; by a space > after you type in "Various recipients:;" so it ends up looking like this: > > To: Various recipients: ; This shouldn't matter at all. Certainly our sendmail (version 8.8.7) happily accepts this. > Unfortunately, sendmail bounces a copy of the message back to me as > undeliverable, even though it does deliver the message to the Bcc: list. > I've tried everything short of gluing the : and ; together, to no avail. > > Any suggestions? This sounds unusual: the only time we've ever seen a problem is back in the days when all our mail was relayed through a server running PP before reaching sendmail on our delivery host. PP didn't understand the ":;" magic and faked up some strange address whilst adding a parse-error warning header. You may like to check which version of the sendmail software your site is running (telnetting to the SMTP port on your server will probably tell you this. A silly question you can check at the same time (forgive me if you're the system administrator as you probably already know the answer!) but are you sure sendmail is being used? Some sites use other software (qmail, smail, etc) and I don't know how these handle ":;" ... mind, having said that I've never heard of anyone else have ":;" flagged as being undeliverable. Cheers, Mike B-) -- The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, Yo10 5DD, UK Tel:+44-1904-433811 Fax:+44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ ******* Unsolicited commercial/bulk e-mail is NOT welcome here! ******* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 05:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA29911 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 05:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA25827; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 05:00:59 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA11388; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 04:59:35 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA62838 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 04:57:30 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id EAA10572 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 04:57:29 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id GAA04779; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 06:57:01 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 06:57:01 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: no DOS attack In-Reply-To: <199807280704.AAA07711@lists3.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN By the way, Ken didn't implement his crontab to send me one null message per minute. He's not very nice, but he's not that bad! Mike ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 05:51:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA30258 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 05:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA07306; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 05:51:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA27939; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 05:49:30 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA72930 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 05:47:23 -0700 Received: from public.ndh.com (public.ndh.net [194.97.97.21]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA18240 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 05:47:18 -0700 Received: from fireball.control-risks.de (port207.koeln.ndh.net [195.94.92.207]) by public.ndh.com (8.8.7/8.8.0) with ESMTP id OAA25673 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 14:46:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from rss@localhost) by fireball.control-risks.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA07455; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 14:45:11 +0200 Message-Id: <19980728144511.I5681@fireball.control-risks.de> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 14:45:11 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: no DOS attack In-Reply-To: ; from Mike Miller on Tue, Jul 28, 1998 at 06:57:01AM -0500 References: <199807280704.AAA07711@lists3.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Quoting Mike Miller (mbmiller@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu): > By the way, Ken didn't implement his crontab to send me one null message > per minute. He's not very nice, but he's not that bad! *sob* Thank you, Mike, for sharing your experience with the group. You know, we all have our ups and downs, and it's good to know that you and Mike have talked about your aggression and your anger. Mellow greetings, Robin -- Robin S. Socha From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA32164 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA29369; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:38:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA05079; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:36:16 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA27896 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:32:11 -0700 Received: from gator.zkb.ch (gator.zkb.ch [194.209.136.6]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA31309 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:32:09 -0700 Received: (from smap@localhost) by gator.zkb.ch (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7.1) id RAA61368 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 17:33:19 +0200 (CEsT) Received: from mime.zkb.ch(147.50.209.17) by gator via smap (V1.3) id sma067102; Tue Jul 28 17:32:51 1998 Received: from jupiter.zkb.ch (unverified) by harde_p01mime.li.zkb.ch (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with SMTP id for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 17:34:32 +0200 Received: from power3.li.zkb.ch ([147.50.38.50]) by jupiter.zkb.ch (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA18440 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 17:31:35 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 17:31:35 +0200 (CUT) Reply-To: Haenni Andre Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "haenni andre" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Still Mailbox vulnerability on PINE4.x... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: t588@power3.li.zkb.ch X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN No, pine 4.02 still passes the lock on to the new process, much the same as pine 3.96 except that the messages indicating another process is accessing inbox are no longer automatically displayed in the old session. Yet this would be the very nature of locking: the new process would say it cannot open inbox, because it's still locked by another process... I can imagine situations where such a lock would be used, but I agree with you -- most of the time, passing the lock on to the new process is exactly what we want. I guess the locking mode should be a configuration switch in pine 4.x, but, at any rate, permissions on /var/spool/mail should not HAVE to be set to 1777, as pine 4.02 anyway does NOT keep a lockfile there: pine seems to try writing it, then removes it immediately. What's that good for? Regards, Andre On Tue, 28 Jul 1998, Arthur Snoke wrote: > Do I understand you to say that pine 4.0N does not ame an open pine > readonly if a new one is started? > > That feature in 3.96 is one I have very much appreciated having, as I may > forget to close pine at work on my workstation and then log on to my > machine from home via modem. With unix mailtool my inbox got very > confused. > > I have not upgraded -- seems to still be some sorting out in the > distribution. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:45:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA00360 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA10166; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:45:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA22505; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:43:35 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA87480 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:41:38 -0700 Received: from ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com (siteadm@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com [24.3.128.66]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA32472 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:41:37 -0700 Received: from cc134749-a.union1.nj.home.com ([24.3.161.40]) by ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA2168 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:41:33 -0700 Message-Id: <3977914426.901626079@cc134749-a.union1.nj.home.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:41:19 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Cliff Green" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Help - address display in header fields (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: green@rwja.umdnj.edu X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Licensed-To: Unlicensed - for evaluation only X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN --On Tuesday, July 28, 1998, 10:01 AM +0100 "Mike Brudenell" wrote: > --On Mon, Jul 27, 1998 4:34 pm -0400 Joe DiBenedetto wrote: > >> Love the idea, but one problem...Pine seperates the : and ; by a space >> after you type in "Various recipients:;" so it ends up looking like this: >> >> To: Various recipients: ; [munch] >> Unfortunately, sendmail bounces a copy of the message back to me as >> undeliverable, even though it does deliver the message to the Bcc: list. >> I've tried everything short of gluing the : and ; together, to no avail. [munch] > This sounds unusual: [munch] > You may like to check which version of the sendmail software your site is > running (telnetting to the SMTP port on your server will probably tell you > this. This may sound odd, but in .pinerc (or, better, in pine.conf) are you using the "smtp-server=" setting or the "sendmail-path=" setting? When we used the latter, we got the same behavior described above, but when we switched to the former (for entirely separate reasons), the LCC: feature clicked in place and has worked just fine ever since. c -- Cliff Green green@umdnj.edu Academic Computing Services University of Medicine and Dentistry of NJ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:00:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA00099 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA10512; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:00:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA23642; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:58:51 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA52650 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:55:48 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA16436 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:55:46 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 23:55:40 +0800 Message-Id: <002401bdba40$26bff6f0$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 23:55:32 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Help - address display in header fields MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Mike, Timothy, Colin and other have had some very good suggestions as to how users of pine (and other mailers) can prevent *sending* of large To: lists. The problem is that you very seldom have control over what *others* send you. Yes, there are times you can send suggestions. But, equally, there are times when you can't or dare not. The result of not being able to control what is being sent to you can be annoying. In this particular case, a long list of recipients with each on a single line. If you can't control what is being sent to you...what are the alternatives? Some have suggested a process which chops off some of the To:'s and puts them in a safe place for later reference. This seems fine for those inclined to do the work of putting things back together. However, it seems to defeat the purpose of having a computer to make things easier. Also, it is seems to be solution which may be to complex for the average user. (Not all users of pine have a Masters in computer science. :-) ) So, what choice is left? Well, maybe there are 2 solutions. 1. Revert to the old viewer of pine where more than one recipients is shown on a line. 2. Modify pine to display a "maximum recipient" list with an indication that the remainder of the list is suppressed and that key "x" should be hit to reveal the full list. Just some ideas..... Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce GSM: +65-9751-0860 Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA32682 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA10735; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:08:08 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA21099; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:04:40 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA62822 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:02:00 -0700 Received: from webster (webster.vetri.com [198.153.135.140]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id JAA17201 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:01:59 -0700 Received: from spike by webster (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA05284; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:04:54 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:02:49 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shawn Jeffries To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: [repost] Help - address display in header fields (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ujefsh81@spike X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I posted this originally hoping there was a simple fix, but the tread has gone off on a tangent, and argumentative. Here are some things I failed to mention : 1> I routinely get messages of up to 50 recipients. 2> I get usually 60-100 messages like this per day. 3> It is not very practical for the senders to use Bcc: or Lcc: when they send messages out because frequently they require replies which need to be forwarded to everyone on the list. 4> Whatever anyone says, we all use Pine because it is efficient and quick to navigate. I don't WANT to ^V every single message to get to the body (or even the subject line). 5> I want to upgrade everyone to 4.00 at my company, but I know this will be a pain in the ass for everyone (I am testing it now). 6> Above all, I just want the old display scheme to work. Shawn Jeffries shawn_jeffries@vetri.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- I noticed an annoying change in 4.00 , in the older version, when a message was displayed, the email addresses would list all the way to the last column like this From : xxx@yyy.com To : asdfg@hjk.com, qwerty@uio.edu, zxcvbn@bmm.com Cc : qetqwetr@hjk.com, asdgasdfa@uio.edu, zxcvbn@bmm.com Now, it displays with a carriage return after each item : From : xxx@yyy.com To : asdfg@hjk.com, qwerty@uio.edu, zxcvbn@bmm.com Cc : qetqwetr@hjk.com, asdgasdfa@uio.edu, zxcvbn@bmm.com Is there an option to set it back ? I get a lot of messages with huge recipient lists, and I hate paging down 2 or 3 times before I get to the message body. Thanks, Shawn Jeffries shawn_jeffries@vetri.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA01678 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:19:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA00961; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:19:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA21585; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:17:27 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA72930 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:15:23 -0700 Received: from webster (webster.vetri.com [198.153.135.140]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id JAA03714 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:15:22 -0700 Received: from spike by webster (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA05408; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:18:17 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:16:14 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shawn Jeffries To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Help - Subject Line in Index - Alphabetical sorting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ujefsh81@spike X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I hope this one doesn't start a fight. In previous version of Pine, when doing a sort by subject, any leading "[" characters were ignored. Now those are sorted to the top. Anyone know a way to return to the old way? Many posts have the same keyword at the start of the subject line (some surrounded by brackets like [text] and some not) . Now Pine sorts them separately. Shawn Jeffries shawn_jeffries@vetri.com "I know what I like" ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA01844 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:55:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA02095; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:55:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA26144; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:52:46 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA72752 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:50:33 -0700 Received: from uu7.psi.com (uu7.psi.com [38.8.39.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA07960 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:50:32 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uu7.psi.com (8.8.8/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) with UUCP id QAA18582 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 16:50:31 GMT Received: by jandr.com (8.6.13/200.19.1.1) id MAA17661; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:34:29 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:34:28 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe DiBenedetto To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Help - address display in header fields (fwd) In-Reply-To: <3977914426.901626079@cc134749-a.union1.nj.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Cliff Green X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: joed@jrmusic X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In the interest of brevity: Mike - We run sendmail 8.6.13 (egads!) so you may be right. Since this is not a mission critical function, I'll just wait until I get a later version of sendmail in the next DG/UX Rev. Yes, I am the sysadmin. Cliff - Thanks for the suggestion, but Unix Pine users don't need to define smtp-server in their .pinerc/pine.conf files. That would be PC-Pine. Thanks again, Joe On Tue, 28 Jul 1998, Cliff Green wrote: > --On Tuesday, July 28, 1998, 10:01 AM +0100 "Mike Brudenell" > wrote: > > > --On Mon, Jul 27, 1998 4:34 pm -0400 Joe DiBenedetto > wrote: > > > >> Love the idea, but one problem...Pine seperates the : and ; by a > space > >> after you type in "Various recipients:;" so it ends up looking like > this: > >> > >> To: Various recipients: ; > [munch] > >> Unfortunately, sendmail bounces a copy of the message back to me as > >> undeliverable, even though it does deliver the message to the Bcc: > list. > >> I've tried everything short of gluing the : and ; together, to no > avail. > [munch] > > This sounds unusual: > [munch] > > You may like to check which version of the sendmail software your site > is > > running (telnetting to the SMTP port on your server will probably tell > you > > this. > > This may sound odd, but in .pinerc (or, better, in pine.conf) are you > using the "smtp-server=" setting or the "sendmail-path=" setting? When > we used the latter, we got the same behavior described above, but when > we switched to the former (for entirely separate reasons), the LCC: > feature clicked in place and has worked just fine ever since. > > c > -- > Cliff Green green@umdnj.edu > Academic Computing Services > University of Medicine and Dentistry of NJ > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA02389 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:02:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA02315; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:02:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA26493; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:00:19 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA63502 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:58:22 -0700 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (mailhost1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA18537 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:58:22 -0700 Received: from amon-lanc (amon-lanc.fammed.washington.edu [128.95.247.72]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id JAA16555; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:58:20 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 09:58:14 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Andrew Sweger To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Help - address display in header fields References: <002401bdba40$26bff6f0$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: "Ed Greshko" X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 2.0 for FirstClass(R) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN "Ed Greshko" ,Internet writes: >2. Modify pine to display a "maximum recipient" list with an indication >that the remainder of the list is suppressed and that key "x" should be >hit to reveal the >full list. I'd like to propose using ^R as the key for this purpose. The mnemonic is already in place (display rich headers). The maximum number of recipients to display (in colapsed view) should also be user configurable. Example (max-recipient = 1): Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 12:29:18 -0800 (PST) From: Everything You Want To: Andrew Sweger (recipient list suppressed, press ^R to display full list) Subject: FREE $TUFF - FREE $TUFF -- Andrew B. Sweger - Computer Support Manager - absweger@u.washington.edu Department of Family Medicine - University of Washington Box 354696 - Seattle - WA - 98195-4696 - (206) 616-9208 _-*^*-_-*^*-_-*^*-_-*^*-_-*^*-_-*^*-_-*^*-_-*^*-_-*^*-_-*^*-_-*^*-_-*^*- Report computer problems to Computer Support From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA02563 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA02923; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:20:51 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA10156; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:15:39 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA77272 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:13:41 -0700 Received: from public.ndh.com (public.ndh.net [194.97.97.21]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA25399 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:13:39 -0700 Received: from fireball.control-risks.de (port193.koeln.ndh.net [195.94.92.193]) by public.ndh.com (8.8.7/8.8.0) with ESMTP id TAA03417 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 19:13:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from rss@localhost) by fireball.control-risks.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA09289; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 18:54:51 +0200 Message-Id: <19980728185451.B8928@fireball.control-risks.de> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 18:54:51 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Help - Subject Line in Index - Alphabetical sorting In-Reply-To: ; from Shawn Jeffries on Tue, Jul 28, 1998 at 12:16:14PM -0400 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Quoting Shawn Jeffries (ujefsh81@vetri.com): > > I hope this one doesn't start a fight. Ummm... Hehehee... > In previous version of Pine, when doing a sort by subject, any leading "[" > characters were ignored. Now those are sorted to the top. Anyone know a > way to return to the old way? Sure. Downgrade. > Many posts have the same keyword at the start of the subject line (some > surrounded by brackets like [text] and some not) . Now Pine sorts them > separately. procmail. If you don't start using procmail within the next 24hrs, your head will be chopped off. Trust me. You want to kill this garbish (mainly endorsed by braindead Windog "Adminstrators" who simply don't know any better (or anything, whichever you prefer). Robin -- Robin S. Socha From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA02729 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA03598; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:43:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA25217; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:41:13 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA13048 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:39:09 -0700 Received: from lionking.org (btman@blacker-99.caltech.edu [131.215.86.99]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA28125 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:39:09 -0700 Received: from localhost (btman@localhost) by lionking.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA26521 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Brian Tiemann To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pico still has the "U" problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: lionking.org: btman owned process doing -bs X-Sender: btman@lionking.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi-- On FreeBSD 2.2.6, I've compiled a fresh 4.02 set of binaries, and pico still prepends "U" all over the first line of a file I've edited. Is this a fix-in-progress? Brian ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA28092 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:10:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA13974; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:10:40 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA29835; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:08:30 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA26928 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:06:21 -0700 Received: from lionking.org (btman@blacker-99.caltech.edu [131.215.86.99]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA16352 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:06:21 -0700 Received: from localhost (btman@localhost) by lionking.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA27634 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Brian Tiemann To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pico still has the "U" problem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: lionking.org: btman owned process doing -bs X-Sender: btman@lionking.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 28 Jul 1998, Brian Tiemann wrote: > Is this a fix-in-progress? Wait a minute. The pico I built on FreeBSD from the 4.02 source gives "3.1" as the version number. Yet a 4.02 I built on BSDI has "3.2". Hmm... Brian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:33:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA03741 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA14531; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:33:19 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA13668; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:30:23 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA53362 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:27:57 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA01225 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:27:56 -0700 Received: from esssol013.elsegundoca.ncr.com (h141-206-15-15.NCR.COM [141.206.15.15]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA14386 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:27:53 -0700 Received: from hostsw4.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (hostsw4 [141.206.2.38]) by esssol013.elsegundoca.ncr.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA09103 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (sf3@localhost) by hostsw4.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA04219 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:27:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: Steven Feinholz Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steven Feinholz To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Refresh Problem With Pine 4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Authentication-Warning: hostsw4.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM: sf3 owned process doing -bs X-Sender: sf3@hostsw4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am running the SunOS version of Pine on SunOS 4.1.4 and the problem I see right now is a refresh problem. If I am looking at an email which extends beyond 1 page, and I have pressed the spacebar to reach the end of the email, and I pop a window in top of the Pine window, when I pop the Pine window to the top, the window refreshes but refreshes back to the top of the email. This did not occur with Pine 3.96. ________________________________________________________________________ | Steven Feinholz | VOICEplus: 427-5945 NCR | Client Software | Phone: (310) 524-5945 Parallel | 100 N. Sepulveda Blvd. | FAX: (310) 524-5515 Systems | 15-169 | Email: sf3@ElSegundoCa.NCR.COM | El Segundo, Ca 90245 | Steven.Feinholz@ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM ________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:41:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA03991 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA14770; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:41:40 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA01563; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:40:15 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA31652 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:38:06 -0700 Received: from rwjcam.umdnj.edu (root@rwjcam.UMDNJ.EDU [130.219.11.100]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA19924 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:38:05 -0700 Received: from rwja.UMDNJ.EDU (rwja.UMDNJ.EDU [130.219.4.100]) by rwjcam.umdnj.edu (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with SMTP id OAA25997 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 14:37:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 14:37:59 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: green@UMDNJ.EDU To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Help - address display in header fields (fwd) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 28 Jul 1998, Joe DiBenedetto wrote: > In the interest of brevity: > [munch] > > Cliff - Thanks for the suggestion, but Unix Pine users don't need to define > smtp-server in their .pinerc/pine.conf files. That would be PC-Pine. Joe, I should have been more concise, sorry. I was referring to the behavior of unix Pine, and I meant that if your sysadmin hadn't defined smtp-server you might want to override it in your .pinerc, or if you *are* the sysadmin, you might want to set it in pine.conf. c -- Clifford Green Internet - green@umdnj.edu Academic Computing Services voice - 732-235-5250 UMDNJ-IST fax - 732-235-5252 a rattlesnake that doesn't bite teaches you nothing From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA04364 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:06:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA05822; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:06:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA15341; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:02:57 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA53366 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:00:42 -0700 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA17739 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:00:38 -0700 Received: from D-140-142-110-126.dhcp2.washington.edu (D-140-142-110-126.dhcp2.washington.edu [140.142.110.126]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id MAA10933; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:00:29 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:00:54 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Still Mailbox vulnerability on PINE4.x... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Haenni Andre X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Please read the Pine technical notes sections on locking... as well as the release notes on this specific topic. You are spreading quite a bit of misinformation here. (Hint: Pine uses more than one kind of lock, for more than one purpose.) -teg On Tue, 28 Jul 1998, haenni andre wrote: > > No, pine 4.02 still passes the lock on to the new process, much the same > as pine 3.96 except that the messages indicating another process is > accessing inbox are no longer automatically displayed in the old session. > > Yet this would be the very nature of locking: the new process would say it > cannot open inbox, because it's still locked by another process... > > I can imagine situations where such a lock would be used, but I agree > with you -- most of the time, passing the lock on to the new process > is exactly what we want. > > I guess the locking mode should be a configuration switch in pine 4.x, > but, at any rate, permissions on /var/spool/mail should not HAVE to be > set to 1777, as pine 4.02 anyway does NOT keep a lockfile there: pine > seems to try writing it, then removes it immediately. What's that good for? > > Regards, Andre > > > On Tue, 28 Jul 1998, Arthur Snoke wrote: > > > Do I understand you to say that pine 4.0N does not ame an open pine > > readonly if a new one is started? > > > > That feature in 3.96 is one I have very much appreciated having, as I may > > forget to close pine at work on my workstation and then log on to my > > machine from home via modem. With unix mailtool my inbox got very > > confused. > > > > I have not upgraded -- seems to still be some sorting out in the > > distribution. > > > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 17:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA11512 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 17:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA14298; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 17:41:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA20563; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 17:40:17 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA40256 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 17:37:51 -0700 Received: from sungod.ccs.yorku.ca (m30DhWM5c1VxRxnK+BkE9B00cVqhmjUD@sungod.ccs.yorku.ca [130.63.236.104]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA26201 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 17:37:50 -0700 Received: from yku00395.yorku.ca (kabul13.slip.yorku.ca [130.63.186.24]) by sungod.ccs.yorku.ca (8.8.7/8.6.11) with SMTP id UAA13609 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 20:37:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 20:39:21 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Adam Baker To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: How do I sign off? In-Reply-To: <002401bdba40$26bff6f0$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: yku00395@postoffice.yorku.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Please advice me what do I have to do in order to unsubscribe the . Thanks. ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 17:56:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA02405 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 17:56:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA23912; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 17:56:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA04033; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 17:54:45 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA34418 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 17:52:42 -0700 Received: from elwha.evergreen.edu (elwha.evergreen.edu [192.211.16.10]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id RAA27514 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 17:52:41 -0700 Received: by elwha.evergreen.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/16Jan95-8.2MPM) id AA13883; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 17:52:08 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 17:52:08 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe Pollock To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: IMAP difficulties Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Since upgrading to the new IMAP released recently, our users have been unable to delete messages in their inbox. They are using a variety of clients, including Netscape Communicator 4.02 and PC-Pine 3.96. The environment: Pine 3.91 on an Ultrix box. Everything worked properly with the IMAP 4.1 beta release that was out before Pine 4.0. The symptoms: I'm still collecting data. The exact results are dependent upon the exact client configuration. If Netscape is set to move deleted messages to the Trash folder, they are moved, but not expunged from the inbox (or marked deleted at the next login). The Mac Netscape client reports IMAP server responded 17 NO EXPUNGE failed checkpoint file failure permission denied Anyone seen anything like this? And the IMAP marker file appears as message number 1 in the Trash folder, not the inbox, or does not appear at all (varies for different users). Joe Pollock The Evergreen State College ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 20:22:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA12709 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 20:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA16508; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 20:22:42 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA25511; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 20:21:28 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA57856 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 20:19:19 -0700 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA15151 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 20:19:18 -0700 Received: from ops_svr (ip140.anaheim.quik.com [207.38.102.140]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA89256 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 03:19:05 GMT Message-Id: <000001bdba9e$e6d379e0$8c6626cf@ops_svr> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 20:13:47 -0700 Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Help - address display in header fields In-Reply-To: <002401bdba40$26bff6f0$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Yes, but if you were on *that* particular track, wouldn't it make sense to do the following; 1. why not chop the To;'s, save a copy of the mail as a text file, and cat the chopped To;'s into the text file just created? >Some have suggested a process which chops off some of the To:'s and puts >them in a safe place for later reference. - You wouldn't have to put things back together, if you wanted the "bare bones version" (minus To:'s) it would be pruned 'n ready in the inbox. If you wanted to view the whole horrible mess, well pico/emacs/jove/vi/LaTeX (whatever) the (suitably titled) text file for the exquisite details. >This seems fine for those inclined to do the work of putting things back together. - I dunno Ed, if you can write the stuff to accomplish the task, er....I think the 'puter just did make things easier...nicht so? >However, it seems to defeat >the purpose of having a computer to make things easier. I would ask the question at this point....is the "average user" the one who wants clean mail, minus all the To:'s? My sense of it is probably that's not the case. I've gotten the usual "funnies" forwarded (yet one *more* fwd) from newcomers, and more sage users alike. Both groups blithely read and forward/bounce email with the most atrocious list of To:'s on 'em. Maybe it's only after a while that quality and style become an issue. Maybe it's just us folks that agonize endlessly over matters such as this. I think the crop of newcomers over the past couple of years or so regard all the crap in badly composed email as "normal". It's the dumbing down of the Internet poulation as a whole I think. If no one teaches you style, how do you become a discriminating user? Bottom line is this I think; Advanced users want advanced capabilities. Absent those built in capabilities, the annoying stuff gets fixed by the advanced user...in a an advanced way. The average user learns if interested (and irked by the flaw) or lives with the problem in blissful ignorance or uncaring oblivion. >Also, it is seems to be solution which may be to complex for the average user. Yup, me for starters, though Gawd...how I wish........ >(Not all users of pine have a Masters in computer science. :-) ) Modifying Pine would probably be the way to go IMHO. A feature that would enable you to view abbreviated To:'s would be the functional equivalent of the "h" (show/hide headers) a feature that I personally find invaluable. I vividly recall a distinguished fellow list member who seemed to be so at home actually modifying a mail client to do his esoteric bidding (elm emulation keymappings I think?), that he assumed immediate Godlike status in my eyes :) Is it *that* easy? I think perhaps not! >So, what choice is left? Well, maybe there are 2 solutions. [listing of proposed solutions] Well, that's my $.02 worth, I'm amazed that U.Wash modifies a globally used email prograsm in response to user's suggestions at all! That blew me away at the beginning, and still does. One of the dozens of reasons I love the program. 'Night Everyone... -Colin. ----------------------------------------- Colin J. Raven Operations Manager, HDS Lab, Inc. Costa Mesa, CA  |  Harrison, NY (714) 428 0300  |  (914) 835 2200   From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 19:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA04969 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 19:14:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA22322; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 19:14:36 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA20972; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 19:13:41 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA34336 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 19:09:01 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA19239 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 19:08:57 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:08:51 +0800 Message-Id: <000001bdbb5e$f912a2f0$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:08:41 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce GSM: +65-9751-0860 Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 21:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA31113 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 21:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA15424; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 21:25:27 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA20917; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 21:23:55 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA62738 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 21:21:20 -0700 Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA15886 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 21:21:17 -0700 Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (8.7.6/BZS-8-1.0) id AAA04998; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 00:20:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by world.std.com (TheWorld/Spike-2.0) id AA06107; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 00:20:27 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 00:20:27 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jeff A Kinsey To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine terminfo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN how can i tell what features i need in my terminfo for pine? it states that my terminal is not supported when i launch pine. -jeff ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 21:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA06195 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 21:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA24062; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 21:37:30 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA26473; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 21:36:33 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA44104 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 21:34:08 -0700 Received: from lists.delta-ii.de (root@apollonius.delta-ii.de [195.180.229.163]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id VAA27774 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 21:34:06 -0700 Received: by lists.delta-ii.de (Smail3.2.0.101/lists.delta-ii.de) via Delta-II for mxu3.u.washington.edu id m0z1kPn-000ACcC; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 06:34:07 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: Date: 30 Jul 1998 06:34:06 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine terminfo In-Reply-To: Jeff A Kinsey's message of "Thu, 30 Jul 1998 00:20:27 -0400 (EDT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: norbert@lists.delta-ii.de (Norbert Koch) X-To: Jeff A Kinsey X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: DELTA Industrie Informatik GmbH X-URL: http://www.delta-ii.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Jeff A Kinsey writes: > it states that my terminal is not supported when i launch pine. Hi, have you tried to set the TERM variable to vt100 or xterm before starting pine; just to get it working? Norbert. -- Dr Norbert Koch, DELTA Industrie Informatik GmbH, Fellbach, Germany. YOW: Are you guys lined up for the METHADONE PROGRAM or FOOD STAMPS?? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 01:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA08194 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 01:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA26595; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 01:17:37 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA16789; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 01:16:02 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA57906 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 01:13:29 -0700 Received: from rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl (root@rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl [148.81.15.15]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA05637 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 01:13:25 -0700 Received: from qrnik.knm.org.pl (root@ppp3-cst45.warszawa.tpnet.pl [195.116.251.45]) by rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA16327 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:13:16 +0200 Received: (from news@localhost) by qrnik.knm.org.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA16549 for Pine Discussion Forum ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:12:29 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 10:12:24 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Some bugs in Pine 4.01 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN (I'm sorry if they are already fixed in 4.02) 1. If sort order of a newsgroup is set to OrderedSubj and I unexclude deleted messages (&) and exclude them again (X), they are sorted in wrong order. Pressing $ Enter resorts them properly. 2. Postponing a composition or continuing postponed composition (I don't know which) adds extra newline at the end of the message. 3. When viewing the result of piping any message through cat (or other filter), the down arrow doubles newlines. Other scrolling keys work fine. -- __("< Marcin Kowalczyk * qrczak@knm.org.pl http://qrczak.home.ml.org/ \__/ GCS/M d- s+:-- a21 C+++>+++$ UL++>++++$ P+++ L++>++++$ E->++ W++ ^^ N+++ o? K? w(---) O? M- V? PS-- PE++ Y? PGP->+ t 5? X- R tv-- QRCZAK b+>++ DI D- G+ e>++++ h! r--%>++ y- [nie ma mnie 9-31 sierpnia] ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA27174 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA09350; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:18:41 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA07230; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:17:31 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA75340 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:15:19 -0700 Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA04980 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:15:18 -0700 Received: from localhost (mcope@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA20863 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:15:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 17:15:17 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Thomas Cope To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: mail notification agent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/problems.html#pseudo-message >Another disadvantage of having these pseudo messages is that, when found >in folders used to receive new messages, some mail notification tools >may be confused and behave incorrectly. There are several solutions to >this problem. For example, some sites have modified the notification >tools to ignore mailboxes whose length corresponds to the pseudo message. We are having precisely this minor problem at our site, We use /bin/mail -E to check for mail/new mail in our users' default .tcshrc /bin/mail -E switch ( $status ) case 0: echo "You have new mail." breaksw; case 2: echo "You have mail." breaksw; endsw This reports mail even when the inbox is empty because of the pseudo message. Does anyone have a simple notification agent that will check for mail presence with the psuedo message. Otherwise I will code a simple one in Perl. /bin/mail -E was due for a change anyway because the -E switch and the return code 2 are both undocumented (deprecated?). -- Michael Cope: Harvey Mudd College '00; Armand Hammer UWC '96 E-mail: Michael_Cope@hmc.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:08:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA27661 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:08:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA10240; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:08:47 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA00549; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:07:49 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA63238 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:05:46 -0700 Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA11549 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:05:45 -0700 Received: from localhost (mcope@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA24105 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 18:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Thomas Cope To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: mail notification agent In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 30 Jul 1998, Michael Thomas Cope wrote: > >From http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/problems.html#pseudo-message > >Another disadvantage of having these pseudo messages is that, when found > >in folders used to receive new messages, some mail notification tools > >may be confused and behave incorrectly. There are several solutions to > >this problem. For example, some sites have modified the notification > >tools to ignore mailboxes whose length corresponds to the pseudo message. > > > We are having precisely this minor problem at our site, > We use /bin/mail -E to check for mail/new mail in our users' default > .tcshrc > > /bin/mail -E > switch ( $status ) > case 0: > echo "You have new mail." > breaksw; > case 2: > echo "You have mail." > breaksw; > endsw > > This reports mail even when the inbox is empty because of the pseudo > message. > Does anyone have a simple notification agent that will check for > mail presence with the psuedo message. Otherwise I will code a simple one > in Perl. /bin/mail -E was due for a change anyway because the -E switch > and the return code 2 are both undocumented (deprecated?). I went ahead and wrote a perl script to replace /bin/mail -e #!/usr/local/bin/perl #to replace /bin/mail -e and ignore Pine 4.0x pseudo message #takes single argument of mbox path or uses $ENV{MAIL} #returns 0 if there is mail, 2 if there is new mail, 1 otherwise #Michael Cope #This script is released under the same license as Perl $magicsize = 515; # Pine 4.0x psuedo message size $mail = defined $ARGV[0] ? $ARGV[0] : $ENV{MAIL}; if(-e $mail) { ($dev,$ino,$mode,$nlink,$uid,$gid,$rdev,$size, $atime,$mtime,$ctime,$blksize,$blocks) = stat($mail); if ($atime < $mtime ) { exit 2 }; #new mail if ($size != $magicsize) { exit 0 }; #mail } exit 1; # file does not exist or is empty -- Michael Cope: Harvey Mudd College '00; Armand Hammer UWC '96 E-mail: Michael_Cope@hmc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:45:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA27795 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA11506; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:44:55 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA04229; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:42:35 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA29452 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:39:31 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA17658 for ; Thu, 30 Jul 1998 19:39:27 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 10:39:18 +0800 Message-Id: <000901bdbc2c$6326ec00$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 10:39:06 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: mail notification agent In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Michael Thomas Cope" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Michael, > $magicsize = 515; # Pine 4.0x psuedo message size Since this message contains items like the Fully Qualified Domain Name of the system the size will vary from system to system. Mine is 520. Beware. Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 04:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA00932 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 04:12:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id EAA24305; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 04:12:08 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA24030; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 04:10:22 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA59758 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 04:08:08 -0700 Received: from psrw.com (admiral.psrw.com [199.99.166.5]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id EAA15916 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 04:08:03 -0700 Received: from boyce.psrw.com (boyce [199.99.166.68]) by psrw.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11743; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 07:08:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (bgiaccio@localhost) by boyce.psrw.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA11241; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 07:08:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 07:07:59 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Brad Giaccio To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: mail notification agent In-Reply-To: <000901bdbc2c$6326ec00$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ed Greshko X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: boyce.psrw.com: bgiaccio owned process doing -bs X-Sender: bgiaccio@boyce X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN in 4.02 you can supress the psuedo message so you won't need to check for it On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, Ed Greshko wrote: > Michael, > > > $magicsize = 515; # Pine 4.0x psuedo message size > > Since this message contains items like the Fully Qualified Domain Name of > the system the size will vary from system to system. Mine is 520. Beware. > > Ed > -- --- There are two kinds of knowledge, you either know the answer or you know where to find it -Kane, Johnson, and anonymous From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 04:27:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA04085 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 04:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id EAA24570; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 04:27:42 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA01794; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 04:26:37 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA59690 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 04:25:38 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id EAA06729 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 04:25:36 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 19:25:26 +0800 Message-Id: <000601bdbc75$e25070c0$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 19:25:13 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: mail notification agent In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Brad Giaccio" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Brad, > in 4.02 you can supress the psuedo message so you won't need to check for > it I don't worry about it.... Others do. :-) But thanks all the same. Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 05:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA04152 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 05:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA18402; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 05:40:02 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA03466; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 05:38:25 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA35974 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 05:36:40 -0700 Received: from eti.cc.hun.edu.tr (eti.cc.hun.edu.tr [193.140.216.8]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA06683 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 05:36:36 -0700 Received: from lidya.cc.hun.edu.tr (lidya [193.140.216.2]) by eti.cc.hun.edu.tr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA12386 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:41:08 +0400 (EET DST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:33:46 +0300 (MEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Adem MECiT To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Postponing a message ... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: bbm548@eti.cc.hun.edu.tr X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi I am from Turkey. I am using ISO8859-9 character set. I have a problem with postponing a message. After postpoining a message, When I want to continue to the message I won't get the message properly. I get the message at the queue-encoded mode. For this reason I couldn't use the postponing feature of the pine. What can I do for this problem. Is it a bug? Thanks for your answers ... Adem MECIT Hacettepe University Computer Center ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 07:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA05215 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 07:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA26270; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 07:02:38 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA21141; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 07:00:50 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA43318 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 06:59:12 -0700 Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA23501 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 06:59:10 -0700 Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (8.7.6/BZS-8-1.0) id JAA27602; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 09:58:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by world.std.com (TheWorld/Spike-2.0) id AA06863; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 09:58:47 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 09:58:47 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jeff A Kinsey To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine terminfo In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN many thanks to the those responding to my termcap/terminfo inquiry. what was not addressed, was what features pine is looking for in termcap/terminfo before deciding if an entry is 'supported'. it would probably take someone who knows the source code. for example, do i need 'blink'? 'kend'? and so forth. -jeff From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 11:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA09901 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 11:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA25962; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 11:44:36 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA06476; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 11:42:48 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA43340 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 11:40:49 -0700 Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA07992 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 11:40:48 -0700 Received: from localhost (mcope@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA07868 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 11:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 11:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Thomas Cope To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: mail notification agent In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > #!/usr/local/bin/perl > #to replace /bin/mail -e and ignore Pine 4.0x pseudo message > #takes single argument of mbox path or uses $ENV{MAIL} > #returns 0 if there is mail, 2 if there is new mail, 1 otherwise > #Michael Cope > #This script is released under the same license as Perl > > $magicsize = 515; # Pine 4.0x psuedo message size > $mail = defined $ARGV[0] ? $ARGV[0] : $ENV{MAIL}; > if(-e $mail) { > ($dev,$ino,$mode,$nlink,$uid,$gid,$rdev,$size, > $atime,$mtime,$ctime,$blksize,$blocks) > = stat($mail); > if ($atime < $mtime ) { exit 2 }; #new mail > if ($size != $magicsize) { exit 0 }; #mail > } > exit 1; # file does not exist or is empty The first script has some bugs, the return values are the opposite of /bin/mail -e and 0 length mboxes used by people using other mail agents are flagged as having messages #!/usr/local/bin/perl #to replace /bin/mail -e and ignore Pine 4.0x pseudo message #takes single argument of mbox path or uses $ENV{MAIL} #returns 0 if there is new mail, 2 if there is mail, 1 otherwise #MTC 7/30/98 $magicsize = 515; # Pine 4.0x psuedo message size for orion.ac.hmc.edu # THIS WILL VARY FROM SYSTEM TO SYSTEM and may change with Pine versions $mail = defined $ARGV[0] ? $ARGV[0] : $ENV{MAIL}; if(-e $mail) { ($dev,$ino,$mode,$nlink,$uid,$gid,$rdev,$size, $atime,$mtime,$ctime,$blksize,$blocks) = stat($mail); if ($atime < $mtime ) { exit 0 }; #new mail if ($size && ($size != $magicsize)) { exit 2 }; #mail } exit 1; # file does not exist or is empty -- Michael Cope: Harvey Mudd College '00; Armand Hammer UWC '96 E-mail: Michael_Cope@hmc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:20:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA13389 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA06829; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:20:30 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA29437; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:18:33 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA43432 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:16:45 -0700 Received: from insci14.ucsd.edu (insci14.ucsd.edu [132.239.56.67]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA23243 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:16:44 -0700 Received: (from jrapp@localhost) by insci14.ucsd.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08081 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199807312117.OAA08081@insci14.ucsd.edu> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 14:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: jrapp@ucsd.edu Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jim Rapp To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: SunOS Pine 4.02 addressbook problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've installed Pine 4.02 on SunOS 4.1.3 systems and have run into a problem when trying to enter an addressbook entry with multiple addresses. For example, if I enter a new addressbook entry: Nickname : test Fullname : just a test Fcc : Comment : this address contains a list Addresses : you, me, them and try to exit and save this new entry, Pine crashes: No more available memory. Pine Exiting Arithmetic exception I have installed this same version of Pine on Solaris (2.5 and 2.6), HP and BSDi systems and this same addressbook entry causes them no trouble. I have tried rebuilding this version of SunOS Pine using 'gcc' instead of Sun's 'acc', to no avail. It also happens whether or not I uncomment the 'CHECK_QUOTAS' directive in ...src/pine/osdep/os-sun.h. It looks like a bug to me. Can anyone confirm this? I didn't find it listed in this discussion's archive on www.washington.edu. Has it come up before? If so, is there a known workaround short of installing an earlier version? (It happens with Pine 4.01 as well.) TIA. --Jim Rapp ========================================================================= Jim Rapp (619) 534-4060 Academic Computing Services (619) 534-7018 fax University of California, San Diego 9500 Gilman Drive, Dept 0110 La Jolla, CA 92093-0110 Internet: jrapp@ucsd.edu ========================================================================= ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 17:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA16934 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 17:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA10875; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 17:29:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA21191; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 17:26:35 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA53980 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:31:59 -0700 Received: from xmission.xmission.com (root@xmission.xmission.com [198.60.22.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA01319 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 16:31:58 -0700 Received: from wencor.com (root@wencor.com [207.135.128.153]) by xmission.xmission.com (8.8.8/8.7.5) with ESMTP id RAA17425 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 17:31:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from marvin.wencor.com (marvin.wencor.com [172.16.59.1]) by wencor.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id RAA04502 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 17:29:33 -0600 Received: from localhost by marvin.wencor.com (8.6.14/200.17.1.3) id RAA27746; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 17:29:18 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 17:29:18 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Chris Wood To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: termdef-takes-precedence MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN As I've gathered from notes in headers.h and http://www.washington.edu/pine/tech-notes.4.02/config.html#gen-conf The -DTERMCAP_WINS doesn't have to be compiled into Pine anymore to get the arrow keys to work on terminals. Now, you can add termdef-takes-precedence to the pine.conf or pine.conf.fixed file to enable these keys. I added this, but it doesn't seem to work. I'm not sure what's wrong exactly. I just took my 3.96 pine.conf and added that line. Was that a bad assumption that 3.96 pine.conf would work with 4.02? System: DGUX 4.2mu02 (Intel), Data General Aviion 5900 Pine 4.02 -=-=-=-=-=- Chris Wood 801-489-2097 [cwood@wencor.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 20:32:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA17866 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 20:32:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA12995; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 20:32:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA12767; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 20:31:10 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA29886 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 20:28:48 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA27952 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 20:28:47 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id UAA12951 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 20:28:45 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA09618; Fri, 31 Jul 1998 22:28:11 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 22:28:11 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: receiving digests with posts as attachments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I subscribe to three e-mail lists. On all three I receive the mail as a digest at the end of each day. On two of the three (both listserv) the individual posts are included as attachments so that I can save them and reply to them individually. This is a *very* useful feature and I'd like to receive Pine-Info in this format. I'm trying to figure out what I need to do, but I can't find the command in the listproc documentation. Does anyone know how I should proceed? Will listproc even put digests in this format? I know this isn't a question about Pine, but it is a question about Pine-Info, so I hope you'll forgive my digression. Thanks in advance, Mike Michael B. Miller, M.S., Ph.D., M.P.E. Department of Psychology 210 McAlester Hall University of Missouri--Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 Phone: (573) 882-5671 Fax: (573) 882-7710 e-mail: mbmiller@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu web: http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ -----------------------------------------------------------------