From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu May 1 00:10:47 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 May 1997 00:10:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA09699 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 00:10:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA03984; Thu, 1 May 1997 00:10:41 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id AAA14418; Thu, 1 May 1997 00:07:02 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA48490 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 00:06:41 -0700 Received: from hq.vni.net (highway@hq.vni.net [205.252.27.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA16293 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 00:06:38 -0700 Received: from localhost (highway@localhost) by hq.vni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA10655; Thu, 1 May 1997 03:06:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 03:06:18 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Solstice To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: skywalker X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, skywalker wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, James Snow wrote: > > > > > > > I've discovered that I kind of prefer vi to pico, and I was ecstatic over > > the enable-alternate-editor-implicitly option, but my joy was short lived. > Are you crazy,....how on earth could you prefer that primate editor "VI" > to the useful, helpful, normal interface if pico. That's because VI is a very powerful TEXT editor and can do a lot more than PICO. VI can search and replace all instances in a text. VI can import unix shell output (e.g. :r !ls -FL) text onto its message body. EMACS is comparable to VI. "THE FATE OF BILLIONS ALL DEPEND ON YOU... HEH HEH HEH ... SORRY." - RAYDEN John "Highway" Tze-Chang Wu Alpha Phi Omega Nat'l Svc Fraternity highway@vni.net http://www.vni.net/apo (Epsilon Mu) http://www.vni.net/~highway Central Perk Coffee House (Friends) (World Wide Web Developer) http://www.vni.net/~highway/Friends =================[Chapter Treasurer - Fall 1996/Spring 1997]=============== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu May 1 02:01:59 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 May 1997 02:01:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA10717 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 02:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA05252; Thu, 1 May 1997 02:01:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA21520; Thu, 1 May 1997 01:58:20 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA54742 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 01:58:05 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA03851 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 01:58:04 -0700 Received: from dev.abc.com.uz (dev.abc.com.uz [194.58.80.161]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA02091 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 01:57:13 -0700 Received: (from uufree@localhost) by dev.abc.com.uz with UUCP id NAA00921 (8.8.4/abc for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 1 May 1997 13:39:46 +0500 Received: from hal.freenet.uz (root@hal.freenet.uz [194.58.80.2]) by joshua.freenet.uz (8.8.5/FreeNET-2) with ESMTP id NAA06604; Thu, 1 May 1997 13:02:29 +0500 Received: from merlin.freenet.uz (sarrahim@merlin.freenet.uz [194.58.80.9]) by hal.freenet.uz (8.8.5/FreeNET-1) with ESMTP id NAA20764; Thu, 1 May 1997 13:03:02 +0600 Received: from localhost (sarrahim@localhost) by merlin.freenet.uz (8.8.5/FreeNET-3) with SMTP id NAA18762; Thu, 1 May 1997 13:07:15 +0600 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 13:07:15 +0600 (GMT+0600) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Sanjar Rahimov To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: sarrahim@merlin.freenet.uz X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Could you give me some direction how to get news from e-mail.I tried to set the news file in the way it is said in "Help" section,but failed. And I can not get what does "[Can't change sys-admin defined value]". What should I do if this phrase appears? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu May 1 02:03:03 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 May 1997 02:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA10801 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 02:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA02167; Thu, 1 May 1997 02:02:58 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA21472; Thu, 1 May 1997 01:56:50 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA50558 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 01:56:31 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA03796 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 01:56:30 -0700 Received: from dev.abc.com.uz (root@dev.abc.com.uz [194.58.80.161]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA02082 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 01:56:16 -0700 Received: (from uufree@localhost) by dev.abc.com.uz with UUCP id NAA00923 (8.8.4/abc for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 1 May 1997 13:39:50 +0500 Received: from hal.freenet.uz (muhtojdn@hal.freenet.uz [194.58.80.2]) by joshua.freenet.uz (8.8.5/FreeNET-2) with ESMTP id NAA06641; Thu, 1 May 1997 13:07:38 +0500 Received: from localhost (muhtojdn@localhost) by hal.freenet.uz (8.8.5/FreeNET-1) with SMTP id NAA20796; Thu, 1 May 1997 13:08:11 +0600 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 13:08:10 +0600 (TSD) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Doniyor Muhammadaliev To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: muhtojdn@hal.freenet.uz X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN My name is Doniyor. I would like to know information about e-mail, because I'm new-learner. That's why I need to your help. I,m looking forward to your reply. Thank you in advance. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu May 1 06:47:14 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 May 1997 06:47:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA13442 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 06:47:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA05584; Thu, 1 May 1997 06:47:09 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id GAA51328; Thu, 1 May 1997 06:40:58 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA51456 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 06:40:25 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA01396 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 06:40:24 -0700 Received: from hydrolab.arsusda.gov (hydrolab.arsusda.gov [192.94.164.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id GAA05499 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 06:40:22 -0700 Received: from hl2.arsusda.gov by hydrolab.arsusda.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA22713; Thu, 1 May 1997 09:40:12 -0400 Received: from localhost by hl2.arsusda.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA15137; Thu, 1 May 1997 09:38:09 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 09:38:09 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: schmugge@hydrolab.arsusda.gov Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Tom Schmugge To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Problem w/ sent-mail for previous month Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: Rob Parry X-Sender: schmugge@hl2.arsusda.gov X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN For the past two months I have been having a problem with the reminder for moving the previous month's sent mail to the sent-mail-april folder even after I have done this procedure on the initial logon. This happened through the entire month of April and now is continuing in May. How do I get it to stop sending me the reminder? Also when I typed "B" to report this bug I was unable to get out that screen. I had to suspend Pine with ^Z and then kill the job. I am runnig Pine 3.93 on an IBM R6000. Best wishes Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas Schmugge schmugge@hydrolab.arsusda.gov USDA/ARS Hydrology Lab Tel: (1) 301-504-8554 Bldg 007 - BARC West -7490 (sec) Beltsville, MD 20705-2350 USA FAX: (1) 301-504-8931 ------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu May 1 07:02:39 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 May 1997 07:02:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA13526 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 07:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA08816; Thu, 1 May 1997 07:02:34 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id GAA29326; Thu, 1 May 1997 06:57:39 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA44386 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 06:57:21 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id GAA06131 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 06:57:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wMwIV-00038eC; Thu, 1 May 97 06:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <335FEC34.41C6@seas.ucla.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 16:26:44 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Hong Zhang To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine and PGP References: <335D4A58.41C6@seas.ucla.edu> <5jl3o1$3ph$3@news.ececs.uc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Jie Yuan wrote: > > In article <5jlmgs$8pd@news.sockets.net>, > kturvey@pug1.SprocketShop.com (Kenneth P. Turvey) writes: > > > If your mail isn't > > really all that secure, and you trust the administrators, you could > > just make sure your mail folders are not world readable. > > > > chmod go-rwx foldername > > > > The default setting is "-rw-------" for all folders of Pine. Just do > a "ls -l ~/mail/" to make sure. > > To be sure noone intercepts your mail, don't use mail. Less than that, > delete all the mails from your Unix account after reading them. Save > them on floppy/tape and store off-site. If you cannot trust your sys > adm, you cannot keep anything personal on your Unix account, no matter > whether they are encrypted or not. He/she can find your secret key to > decrypt everything after all. You just have to live with some > insecurity in today's computer world. > > Jie > -- > -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. of Cincinnati - Dept. of Pharmacology & C.B. -- > == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 = x-1169 (fax) == > == www.uc.edu/~yuanj = Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = using Knews (Irix5.3) == > == PGP key: finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu == > == Remove "NoSpam" in address to reply Thanks for all your reply. I know how to it in script. I was wondering if this should be another feature in the feature release of all mail programs. The mail programs should provide ways to encrypt folds or mails to make it a Pretty Good Mail :-) HZ hongz@seas.ucla.edu even From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu May 1 10:36:15 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 May 1997 10:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA02603 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 10:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA10818; Thu, 1 May 1997 10:36:08 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA51988; Thu, 1 May 1997 10:29:44 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA50912 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 10:27:51 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA27337 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 10:27:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wMzZ5-00038cC; Thu, 1 May 97 10:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 1 May 1997 16:31:41 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Correspond via email References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN [newbie education - regular readers please advance to next article] ajurabek@uwed.freenet.uz (Jurabek Azimov): > My best regards to everybody, who is reading my my message. "Hellos" are not required on Usenet. > I'm a student. That's why I need a lack informations. s/need/have/ > Do anybody can help to promote my knowledge on political sciences. Let me promote your knowledge a bit on these things: This "mailing list" is also a Usenet newsgroup. People are reading you worldwide and they expect to read about the mailer/newsreader Pine in this group (comp.mail.pine) Your request does not meet the charta of this newsgroup. It is thus regarded as irrelevant noise. So please read the newsgroup charta before you post to see whether your post meets the expected topics! If you do not know which newsgroup is appropriate then please ask on the newsgroup news.newusers.questions first! Some newsgroups which may be appropriate are these: alt.political.* soc.politics.* talk.politics.* The star ('*') represents further names of subgroups in these hierarchies. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu May 1 11:07:09 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 May 1997 11:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA19321 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 11:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA11626; Thu, 1 May 1997 11:07:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id LAA18355; Thu, 1 May 1997 11:01:41 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA38000 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 11:01:10 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA08958 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 11:01:08 -0700 Received: from kta.com (ptomsic@kta.com [206.210.80.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA11460 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 11:01:05 -0700 Received: from localhost (ptomsic@localhost) by kta.com (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA27310 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 14:03:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 14:03:05 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paul Tomsic To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Sug (ID JJ8Z3): Problem with move folder to x month.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've been having a problem with the new month folder moving feature where it prompts me each time I start up pine to move sent-mail to x-month-sent-mail How can I get it to stop this, ie not disable the feature, but let it ask just once at the beginning of each month? Thanks Paul Tomsic From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu May 1 15:23:19 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 May 1997 15:23:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA24714 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 15:23:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA20724; Thu, 1 May 1997 15:23:14 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA50530; Thu, 1 May 1997 15:19:58 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA38178 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 15:18:43 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA28784 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 15:18:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wN46h-00038cC; Thu, 1 May 97 15:13 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <01bc5652$7e43a280$0fb48e8c@localhost.u.washington.edu> Date: 1 May 1997 17:14:35 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ross Lamb" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Can Pine notify web site of incoming e-mail ? X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I wonder if anyone knows whether you can set up Pine so that it automatically notifies a web site of incoming e-mail messages. Seiko Message Watch have a web site where they can page me automatically if I enter a specific URL designation. I wonder whether Pine can be setup such that the URL will be "hit" everytime I receive an incomng e-mail. If anyone has any ideas I would be very grateful. Ross Lamb From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu May 1 16:38:30 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 May 1997 16:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA26496 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 16:38:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA22584; Thu, 1 May 1997 16:38:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA14337; Thu, 1 May 1997 16:34:17 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA45748 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 16:33:56 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA16587 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 16:33:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wN5KS-00038cC; Thu, 1 May 97 16:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5kan1c$5cr@fu-berlin.de> Date: 1 May 1997 18:22:36 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@maddison.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: info References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN yak79@uwed.freenet.uz (Yakubjan Isakov): > Dear representative of pine! uh-oh... > I would like to find one of my friend thru e-mail. He has an e-mail address > but I don't know it. What I am asking you is could you please send me the > e-mail address which I could write to so everyone using e-mail in the world > could read my message. That way I might be able to find my friend. There is no way you can find all email addresses. And it would not be a good idea, either. RTFFAQ! I suggest you contact your friend the usual way (ie phone, letter) and ask him for his address. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri May 2 01:22:14 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 1997 01:22:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA31027 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 01:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA29530; Fri, 2 May 1997 01:22:07 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA07334; Fri, 2 May 1997 01:19:08 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA26326 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 01:18:36 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA17703 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 01:18:35 -0700 Received: from godrejnet (godrej.gsslco.co.in [202.54.16.94]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA29492 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 01:18:28 -0700 Received: from localhost by godrejnet with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA165741101; Fri, 2 May 1997 13:48:22 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 13:48:21 +0530 (IST) Reply-To: A V SHIRODKAR Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: A V SHIRODKAR To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Seeking information about pine. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine X-Sender: shiva@godrejnet X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have been using pine only for the past few months and would like to know more it. Could I have more information? - Aniruddha Shirodkar From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri May 2 03:42:40 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 1997 03:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA00188 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 03:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA27483; Fri, 2 May 1997 03:42:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id DAA10027; Fri, 2 May 1997 03:40:22 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA20036 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 03:39:58 -0700 Received: from yakko.chicks.net (chicks@yakko.chicks.net [205.166.143.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA15335 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 03:39:55 -0700 Received: from localhost (chicks@localhost) by yakko.chicks.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA06604; Fri, 2 May 1997 06:39:35 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 06:39:34 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Christopher Hicks To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Solstice X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: yakko.chicks.net: chicks owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 1 May 1997, Solstice wrote: > On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, skywalker wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, James Snow wrote: > > > I've discovered that I kind of prefer vi to pico, and I was ecstatic > > > over the enable-alternate-editor-implicitly option, but my joy was > > > short lived. > > Are you crazy,....how on earth could you prefer that primate editor "VI" > > to the useful, helpful, normal interface if pico. Some people prefer power over ease-of-use. I use both pico or vi depending on the circumstance. On Thu, 1 May 1997, Solstice wrote: > That's because VI is a very powerful TEXT editor and can do a lot more > than PICO. VI can search and replace all instances in a text. VI can > import unix shell output (e.g. :r !ls -FL) text onto its message body. So far, so good. > EMACS is comparable to VI. Bzzzt...wrong. Thank you for playing. pico is the pencil. vi is a drafting set. emacs is an engineering firm and artists colony rolled into one. vi and emacs are only comparable in the sense that comparisons can be made between them. But you can make comparisons between virtually any two editors, so that's not what you meant. You meant that they have similar functionality. That is way, way, way off. Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to buy Microsoft products. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri May 2 08:51:54 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 1997 08:51:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA04230 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 08:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA05592; Fri, 2 May 1997 08:51:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA23771; Fri, 2 May 1997 08:46:36 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA48320 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 08:46:11 -0700 Received: from hq.vni.net (highway@hq.vni.net [205.252.27.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA01175 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 08:46:08 -0700 Received: from localhost (highway@localhost) by hq.vni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA18638; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:46:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 11:46:04 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Solstice To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Christopher Hicks X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 2 May 1997, Christopher Hicks wrote: > On Thu, 1 May 1997, Solstice wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, skywalker wrote: > > > On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, James Snow wrote: > > > > I've discovered that I kind of prefer vi to pico, and I was ecstatic > > > > over the enable-alternate-editor-implicitly option, but my joy was > > > > short lived. > > > Are you crazy,....how on earth could you prefer that primate editor "VI" > > > to the useful, helpful, normal interface if pico. > > Bzzzt...wrong. Thank you for playing. pico is the pencil. vi is a > drafting set. emacs is an engineering firm and artists colony rolled into > one. My mistake. The extent of use I've seen with EMACS was simply used as a text editor for programming. I stand corrected. :) "THE FATE OF BILLIONS ALL DEPEND ON YOU... HEH HEH HEH ... SORRY." - RAYDEN John "Highway" Tze-Chang Wu Alpha Phi Omega Nat'l Svc Fraternity highway@vni.net http://www.vni.net/apo (Epsilon Mu) http://www.vni.net/~highway Central Perk Coffee House (Friends) (World Wide Web Developer) http://www.vni.net/~highway/Friends =================[Chapter Treasurer - Fall 1996/Spring 1997]=============== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri May 2 11:02:27 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:02:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA00540 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA08890; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:02:20 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA27126; Fri, 2 May 1997 10:57:00 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA37328 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 10:56:05 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA15192 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 10:55:59 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 02 May 97 19:55:40 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA01600; Fri, 2 May 1997 15:30:12 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 15:30:08 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Christopher Hicks X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 2 May 1997, Christopher Hicks wrote: >On Thu, 1 May 1997, Solstice wrote: >> That's because VI is a very powerful TEXT editor and can do a lot more >> than PICO. VI can search and replace all instances in a text. VI can >> import unix shell output (e.g. :r !ls -FL) text onto its message body. >So far, so good. >> EMACS is comparable to VI. >Bzzzt...wrong. Thank you for playing. pico is the pencil. vi is a >drafting set. emacs is an engineering firm and artists colony rolled into >one. Well, now, since you seem to be in the mood for yet another boring holy war, let's lay out sensible rules first: 1. There is no such thing as vi. 2. There is no such thing as emacs. How's that? Well, there's vi, vim, viper, elvis... And there's emacs, XEmacs, jemacs, microemacs, jove... >vi and emacs are only comparable in the sense that comparisons can be >made between them. But you can make comparisons between virtually any two >editors, so that's not what you meant. You meant that they have similar >functionality. That is way, way, way off. As for the value of comparisons in general: IMAO, you can compare anything, but most of these comparisons aren't very fruitful (being a political scientist, I may draw your attention to the heated debates that arose over the theory of totalitarianism vs. theories of fascism...). Therefore, while you may well compare, say, vi to jove, comparing vi to XEmacs certainly doesn't make much sense. Yet, since almost anyone these days owns a computer that launches even emacs within 1--2 seconds, the comparison might yet be sensible because emacs has some very sensible features which pine in general and even with pico as its alternate editor lacks. Compare pine to gnus and you'll find that is is inferior in almost any respect. But then again, who needs all those features? Therefore, I'd suggest burying this thread, if I may, because it's been all over the net for years, and there doesn't seem to be a solution. Later, Robin >On Thu, 1 May 1997, Solstice wrote: >> On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, skywalker wrote: >> > On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, James Snow wrote: >> > > I've discovered that I kind of prefer vi to pico, and I was >> > > ecstatic over the enable-alternate-editor-implicitly option, but my >> > > joy was short lived. >> > Are you crazy,....how on earth could you prefer that primate editor >> > "VI" to the useful, helpful, normal interface if pico. >Some people prefer power over ease-of-use. I use both pico or vi >depending on the circumstance. - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM2nsYWe8+XvDOeNZAQFfsQf/fvcVayPIKfYbOkn3/u3ukKgmDxkme84j NS2gEmxSNH773/hDEHEKE4iYgeV8P19D9uHz9KfFaUZAVpYTLfkfpD0Y9C6aH6bJ m6mOrtmZdfxZ+GibZRnQWRIN/sd/o7NdCAVqPckyZxYSh0XRKzFqMXo1ESoOYvkV w04PCAbpGRGKgTpzJUq0bXxWYkB1NbJOIgKebGk9QkQjg/xA5fMS5Cmny5JtJRHv ypVTQzCwe0zp3uALkFhh108I2Gxto4cCUEKXKafxbsHiIcWW7zAg2pxc/asvmmdr pPn27bk9uSJqoicm2SlycXi6LmCU/FyFghrac7RO5+OpFmVuEa/ZIg== =4kHc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri May 2 11:04:13 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA07135 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA08943; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:04:07 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA11487; Fri, 2 May 1997 10:59:38 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA43714 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 10:56:30 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA15244; Fri, 2 May 1997 10:56:20 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 02 May 97 19:56:05 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA00656; Fri, 2 May 1997 09:15:53 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 09:15:48 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Can Pine notify web site of incoming e-mail ? In-Reply-To: <01bc5652$7e43a280$0fb48e8c@localhost.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ross Lamb X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 1 May 1997, Ross Lamb wrote: >I wonder if anyone knows whether you can set up Pine so that it >automatically notifies a web site of incoming e-mail messages. Seiko >Message Watch have a web site where they can page me automatically if I >enter a specific URL designation. I wonder whether Pine can be setup such >that the URL will be "hit" everytime I receive an incomng e-mail. And just how should it even begin to do that? Pine is an email program... There are some kluges I could think of, all of them involving cron jobs that somehow monitor your inbox (time-stamp would be an idea, like asmail or xbiff) and upon alteration launch lynx and kill it immediately. You could, of course, also abuse procmail for this purpose, but I couldn't figure out how to assign a terminal to lynx right now :-) Later, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM2mUpme8+XvDOeNZAQEP/AgAruHm6P0fDjmfjASycZtKVhF5KmOfPX1D fmRAOoi1ML4KbjMWdDUTFyKPfrV7S32Mwo9QTcjnAsYHhSkUq+EeZxERHKIT0UdU bbVNg/MBPXxM8qfLJA5sk0Hb873TPB0Wwoa1prHIfjBavC2ks+m5VOYomj2sBQhP 0xDflkqK0152IIL3/Hjomv33KdHKWpwLP7MGVYXPHg+VMJe/rZkirowl/zzRXFuP +C0OJc+IN/TVwjUyMrvMagBP2Rc8NZ3WXyKRvqyXiMmDUBZ9QzKqWuTQyUTtgmf1 Iqa7MzGoCemiQv0a6R9Z8X/Le8GUp+hhCOOJaJWbWxW3j1vFDK0MJw== =JmRe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri May 2 11:57:20 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA07872 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:57:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA06706; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:57:12 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id LAA26154; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:49:35 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA50872 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:47:52 -0700 Received: from yakko.chicks.net (chicks@yakko.chicks.net [205.166.143.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA20787 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:47:43 -0700 Received: from localhost (chicks@localhost) by yakko.chicks.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA07836; Fri, 2 May 1997 14:47:38 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 14:47:37 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Christopher Hicks To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robin S Socha X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: yakko.chicks.net: chicks owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 2 May 1997, Robin S Socha wrote: > Well, now, since you seem to be in the mood for yet another boring holy > war, let's lay out sensible rules first: Lacking a true net.kook to take up a contrary side, I'll do what I can. > 1. There is no such thing as vi. > 2. There is no such thing as emacs. > > How's that? I agree mostly. In each case there is "one true" one and many variants. (And I'm not saying that the variant is in someway lacking since I use variants in each case.) But referring to "something that descended from and/or remains somewahat similar to vi" simply as "vi" seems to be an appropriate and wise expedient. > Yet, since almost anyone these days owns a computer that launches even > emacs within 1--2 seconds, the comparison might yet be sensible because > emacs has some very sensible features which pine in general and even > with pico as its alternate editor lacks. Compare pine to gnus and you'll > find that is is inferior in almost any respect. But then again, who > needs all those features? I need those features. Something that was smarter about justification of quoted blocks would save me ten minutes per week. Having an addressbook that has better functionality built in would save me more time than that. The beauty of pine is that these features can be added, but off-by-default for those users that don't want them. To be honest, I'd like to see us embed perl (or some lisp) in pine with lots of hooks that would allow functions to be called for certain events. This would make having a personal signature generator easier. In fact, building a pine-compatible email program in perl might be a good thing. Pine provides a very good user interface and is very stable, but "culturally" it encourages minimalism while supporting a number of "expert" features. Hmmmm.... perl needs some more free "applications". :-) > Therefore, I'd suggest burying this thread, if I may, because it's been > all over the net for years, and there doesn't seem to be a solution. As it relates to the future of pine I don't intend to "bury" it. As it relates to editor religion, I have no intention of continuing given that my original point about the incomparability of emacs and vi has been thoroughly made. Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to buy Microsoft products. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri May 2 12:58:39 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 1997 12:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA09802 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 12:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA11959; Fri, 2 May 1997 12:58:33 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA18672; Fri, 2 May 1997 12:53:06 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA39690 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 12:52:34 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA11786 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 12:52:32 -0700 Received: from toolbox.rutgers.edu (toolbox.rutgers.edu [128.6.134.37]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA08110 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 12:52:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (rgaine@localhost) by toolbox.rutgers.edu (8.6.12+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA20755 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 15:52:06 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 15:52:06 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rick Gaine To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: reply-to MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: rgaine@toolbox.rutgers.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN How do I make pine include a reply-to line in the header of outgoing mail? Rick From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri May 2 13:12:03 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 1997 13:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA10149 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 13:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA12367; Fri, 2 May 1997 13:11:58 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA15403; Fri, 2 May 1997 13:06:10 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA25580 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 13:04:56 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA28777 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 13:04:52 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 02 May 97 22:04:34 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA03583; Fri, 2 May 1997 22:01:56 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 22:01:48 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: reply-to In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Rick Gaine X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 2 May 1997, Rick Gaine wrote: >How do I make pine include a reply-to line in the header of outgoing >mail? By doing what we all did when we didn't know pine --- reading the docu? customized-hdrs Add these custom headers when composing. Also possible to add default values to these custom headers or to any of the standard headers. This is a list variable. Each entry in the list is a header name (the actual header name that will appear in the message) followed by an optional colon and value. For example, if a Reply-to header was needed because it was different from the From address, that could be accomplished with: customized-hdrs=Reply-to: fred_flintstone@bedrock.net HTH, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM2pILme8+XvDOeNZAQF3Mwf+Kl+ZxJn8r0SPMz11Fq99bLfpHi2qwZip 9WIEX25y9Q7WWnL1ZgF+w0EkKdWJegTwqKoAfitr9V7yvzT8hSif7w9/m3Zi2v/t aqxuaU/dyuxiCGxNfasHDYqmkQ4J0G/WqB7TTyZTMK0ue2YzWs1pADc71Ex5mbzA q7gLCgLvKdlyyXCxd5QmYAAI5vLGgnu2kw0wYJ6mhYKJu311TTG8LWkZ8tlPZUvC A5/zDCfSgEVhUeKFYYE8SHnG3GfPLBZqz3xA8QxU9BZDWAAB9FTVMVqRsBq3QOuT eRBpnJOkKLBOqeozh+GIQBaf0qf6WvoWKEURn5JtijzizmYgTA+Csw== =o6ml -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri May 2 14:30:46 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 1997 14:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA11511 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 14:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA10401; Fri, 2 May 1997 14:30:40 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA22875; Fri, 2 May 1997 14:25:06 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA40160 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 14:24:46 -0700 Received: from ns.dnsserver.com (qmailr@[208.14.0.252]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA06394 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 14:24:25 -0700 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 0); 2 May 1997 21:13:33 -0000 Received: from www8.clever.net (kguida@206.31.79.1) by smtp.clever.net with SMTP; 2 May 1997 21:13:33 -0000 Received: from localhost (kguida@localhost) by www8.clever.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA11387 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 17:20:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 17:20:27 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: kguida@www8.clever.net To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Help! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello. I am new at using pine, and I really want to know if there is any way to download my incoming messages (all together) into a file that I can open with Microsoft word. I have searched forever for a 'capture' or 'download' command, but I'm lost. Can anyone help? Thanks! Kristen Guida New York, NY kguida@freedomhouse.org From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri May 2 17:17:54 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 1997 17:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA14233 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 17:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA17824; Fri, 2 May 1997 17:17:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA00967; Fri, 2 May 1997 17:13:51 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA08222 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 17:13:34 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA20778 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 17:13:28 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 03 May 97 02:13:12 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id BAA01770; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:38:02 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 01:37:57 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Help! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: kguida@www8.clever.net X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 2 May 1997 kguida@www8.clever.net wrote: >I am new at using pine, and I really want to know if there is any way to >download my incoming messages (all together) into a file that I can open >with Microsoft word. Yes, but there are a couple of things you need to specify first: 1. You seem to working on BSDi, so: Are you familiar with ftp? Can your windows do it? 2. Have you set a path for your read messages in the setup? If so, you can use this file. If not, you need to check where your inbox is and use that file. 3. Are you aware of the fact that email messages look kinda strange? You should consider piping the file through printmail before raping it with word. (This won't work with the procedure I'm suggesting below) 4. Why on earth do you want to "postprocess" *giggle* your email messages with word? While 1-3 are somewhat essential, 4 is not that important :-) >I have searched forever for a 'capture' or 'download' command, but I'm >lost. Oh yeah? Although I do like "capture", try saying something like this next time... grep -i download Read_Me/Pine-docu/* which will tell you this... download-command This option affects the behavior of the Export command. It specifies a Unix program name, and any necessary command line arguments, that Pine can use to transfer the exported message to your personal computer's disk. download-command-prefix This option is used in conjunction with the Download-command option. It defines text to be written to the terminal emulator (via standard output) immediately prior to starting the download command. This is useful for integrated serial line file transfer agents that permit command passing (e.g., Kermit's APC method). I didn't bother trying what those do, but I could imagine that using this in connection with the aggregate-command stuff might also lead to a result. Which result exactly, I cannot say... [1 minute later...] Yup, that's what you want. Enable aggregate-command in the setup, too, then say: ; a a e i.e.: select select All Apply Export Now, you need to tweak the download commands according to your needs and you're there. >kguida@freedomhouse.org Is that your reply-to address? Then you should put it in the header... HTH, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM2p612e8+XvDOeNZAQG5aQf+J0n7453cUNVU3uYFLzV+pOInI8dmzpDD dUtySbngan1bDvt0H8rW+aS4eaikh6dYDNI/A51AT/6tlNnrk8w7MrV3BK3TG0QZ WhL7wQWRFLAKwALOxRQa9y7J8Zg9Fs9LcjgNRV2C0tD2+cj3scfvuKgK5nMLdPyf odf16iUXwK0AgbYYOFz4o7WGiCsHAbji9HaOdEK3bkp/iza2YHQDMrfno50FPyqD UbY9JvIUly0W2bPbkpvpubKHEaZ3zYeIaAxU8lPk3stD8O1jL4fmOgehFrc5Wlyo gOJ1j2kLPwoQeC865DtDKg95/udxU2dsuQr8Gt34VxLfDpKJ0OJrLw== =Zt4g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri May 2 17:18:09 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 1997 17:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA14443 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 17:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA14154; Fri, 2 May 1997 17:18:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA00995; Fri, 2 May 1997 17:14:15 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA38190 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 17:13:37 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA20795 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 17:13:34 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 03 May 97 02:13:17 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA00502; Fri, 2 May 1997 23:49:18 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 23:49:12 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Christopher Hicks X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 2 May 1997, Christopher Hicks wrote: >On Fri, 2 May 1997, Robin S Socha wrote: [...] [features in mailers] >I need those features. Something that was smarter about justification of >quoted blocks would save me ten minutes per week. "supercite"? >Having an addressbook that has better functionality built in would save >me more time than that. "BBDB"? >The beauty of pine is that these features can be added, but >off-by-default for those users that don't want them. ...thereby making pine even bigger than it already is? >To be honest, I'd like to see us embed perl (or some lisp) in pine with >lots of hooks that would allow functions to be called for certain events. Can you say "(add-hook 'mail-yank-hooks 'sc-cite-original)" in elisp? >This would make having a personal signature generator easier. "Random flames"? >In fact, building a pine-compatible email program in perl might be a good >thing. Pine provides a very good user interface and is very stable, but >"culturally" it encourages minimalism while supporting a number of >"expert" features. What's wrong with that? Personally, I found "growing up" with pine quite refreshing. I found that it doesn't cover all of my needs anymore, so I might move to Gnus in the end, but I like the idea of having a program that is foolproof in vanilla-mode but quite powerful when modified. >Hmmmm.... perl needs some more free "applications". "Perl users are sick, twisted programmers who are just showing off." >> Therefore, I'd suggest burying this thread, if I may, because it's been >> all over the net for years, and there doesn't seem to be a solution. >As it relates to the future of pine I don't intend to "bury" it. As it >relates to editor religion, I have no intention of continuing given that >my original point about the incomparability of emacs and vi has been >thoroughly made. Let's put it this way: If it wasn't for its poor yanking, pico would cover 99% of everybody's needs as an editor in pine. And there's this, too: 109448 Dec 20 1995 /usr/bin/pico* 172716 Aug 10 1995 /usr/bin/joe* (or jpico...) 315772 Oct 22 1996 /usr/bin/vim* 2804464 Aug 28 1996 /usr/X11R6/bin/xemacs* :-) vim is a monster and big, too. It's a powerful tool, but its a typical example of user-unfriendliness IMAO. :-) Let's use joe instead... >:-> Cheers, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P++>+++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM2phW2e8+XvDOeNZAQE1Ugf/WR1DygGmeoa4hD4ZLB+rBlcOPoVh3/e7 wovNEsOlOTTyoANjsV8Z8JfksXkQYZLChr/VQ8WgdTHPsWDsEswKa25YI7hx9zue JyZjEKEO2jv8en5VCZrF1kHK5TXMZZkRhbBKfgn50pN66DjqWm4vuicnFWXMb2I6 Dgkzhze64n0+VfLx3/gFuCXUePhgwUNVNIva05Q5Mq03Od712IXhtDhD34DnqZ1s WsJ1pwo9GBFNV76fQ9raQnvn1b+v4gCkdHlkoFjccVOjpkFll0eAzLHxUh6YSynr eEWCl1mh4KesDr3vLwgodwaLN2zGWlj4lvMS/n9vmzjc3kB1hkDHzQ== =+HCh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 1997 18:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA14772 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 18:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA18471; Fri, 2 May 1997 18:07:43 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA46760; Fri, 2 May 1997 18:04:04 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA36662 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 18:03:26 -0700 Received: from yakko.chicks.net (chicks@yakko.chicks.net [205.166.143.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA00569 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 18:03:23 -0700 Received: from localhost (chicks@localhost) by yakko.chicks.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA08737; Fri, 2 May 1997 21:03:01 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 21:03:01 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Christopher Hicks To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robin S Socha X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 2 May 1997, Robin S Socha wrote: > On Fri, 2 May 1997, Christopher Hicks wrote: > [features in mailers] > >I need those features. Something that was smarter about justification of > >quoted blocks would save me ten minutes per week. > > "supercite"? Do we have patches to make it work in pine? > >Having an addressbook that has better functionality built in would save > >me more time than that. > > "BBDB"? I'm not familiar with that acronym, would you explain it? > >The beauty of pine is that these features can be added, but > >off-by-default for those users that don't want them. > > ...thereby making pine even bigger than it already is? Bigger isn't bad if done properly. > >To be honest, I'd like to see us embed perl (or some lisp) in pine with > >lots of hooks that would allow functions to be called for certain events. > > Can you say "(add-hook 'mail-yank-hooks 'sc-cite-original)" in elisp? Yes I can. Bud I'd rather say it in perl so it wouldn't sound so overly parenthetical. > >This would make having a personal signature generator easier. > > "Random flames"? Flickers. > >In fact, building a pine-compatible email program in perl might be a good > >thing. Pine provides a very good user interface and is very stable, but > >"culturally" it encourages minimalism while supporting a number of > >"expert" features. > > What's wrong with that? Personally, I found "growing up" with pine quite > refreshing. I found that it doesn't cover all of my needs anymore, so I > might move to Gnus in the end, but I like the idea of having a program that > is foolproof in vanilla-mode but quite powerful when modified. It is quite powerful, but it lacks the flexibility and easy modifiability of something like gnus or a perl-based MUA. > >Hmmmm.... perl needs some more free "applications". > > "Perl users are sick, twisted programmers who are just showing off." But showing off is so fun and can be quite useful. "What is the sound of Perl? Is it not the sound of a wall that people have stopped banging their heads against?" --Larry Wall in <1992Aug26.184221.29627@netlabs.com> "Waving away a cloud of smoke, I look up, and am blinded by a bright, white light. It's God. No, not Richard Stallman, or Linus Torvalds, but God. In a booming voice, He says: "THIS IS A SIGN. USE LINUX, THE FREE UNIX SYSTEM FOR THE 386." (Matt Welsh) > Let's put it this way: If it wasn't for its poor yanking, pico would cover > 99% of everybody's needs as an editor in pine. The other 1% are those of who are supporting the other 99%. The 1% are the ones who have to install this stuff. If you can make the 1% happier and not annoyt the 99% much then you'll have a more popular product. > And there's this, too: > > 109448 Dec 20 1995 /usr/bin/pico* > 172716 Aug 10 1995 /usr/bin/joe* (or jpico...) > 315772 Oct 22 1996 /usr/bin/vim* > 2804464 Aug 28 1996 /usr/X11R6/bin/xemacs* :-) > > vim is a monster and big, too. It's a powerful tool, but its a typical > example of user-unfriendliness IMAO. :-) Let's use joe instead... >:-> And the perl binary itself is probably on the same size as emacs. That's life. Big doesn't have to be unfriendly. Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to buy Microsoft products. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 1997 21:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA16083 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 21:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA20889; Fri, 2 May 1997 21:35:08 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id VAA10107; Fri, 2 May 1997 21:32:41 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA06120 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 21:32:28 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA04174 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 21:32:27 -0700 Received: from bubble.yonsei.ac.kr (bubble.yonsei.ac.kr [165.132.10.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id VAA17142 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 21:32:22 -0700 Received: (from allanv@localhost) by bubble.yonsei.ac.kr (8.6.9H1/8.6.9) id NAA22175; Sat, 3 May 1997 13:32:14 +0900 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 13:32:14 +0900 (KST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: ALLAN VILLARANTE To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Request of Philippine addresses In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > On Sat, 3 May 1997, ALLAN VILLARANTE wrote: > > > > > Mabuhay! > > > > Kindly provide me addresses of e-mail subscribers from the > > Philippines specifically those connected with the University of the > > Philippines in Diliman, Quezon City. I suppose you have records of them > > inasmuch as you have data bank for all your clients. I would be very > > glad to know much about the things that are currently happening in my > > country and the current events at the University of the Philippines since I > > will staying here in Seoul for the next eight months. > > > > Thank you very much in advance for the generous assistance. > > > > > > ALLAN JOSE JUSTINIANI VILLARANTE > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:46:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA18111 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:46:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA23861; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:46:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA16772; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:44:29 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA46936 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:40 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA00523 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wNaO2-00038iC; Sat, 3 May 97 01:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5kan7j$5cr@fu-berlin.de> Date: 1 May 1997 18:25:55 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@maddison.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: info References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN sarrahim@uwed.freenet.uz (Sanjar Rahimov): > Could you give me some direction how to get news from e-mail. Yes. But as you are using a newsreader already, you don't need to get news by email. So I won't. > I tried to set the news file in the way it is said in "Help" section, > but failed. Well, I think you need someone to help you locally. Please let someone show you! > And I can not get what does "[Can't change sys-admin defined value]". > What should I do if this phrase appears? Ignore it. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:46:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA18101 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:46:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA20047; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:46:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA16719; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:44:04 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA45120 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:36 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA21091 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wNaNd-00038hC; Sat, 3 May 97 01:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 23:44:25 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Pollak To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Difference between LCC and BCC? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've been sending lists using BCC for a long time now, and it works just fine -- so long as I put something in the to line (an appropriate alias with my address), every one the mail, but not the list of addresses. Does the new "lcc:" improve on this procedure in any way? All comments appreciated. Michael __________________________________________________________________________ Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA18077 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA20063; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:06 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA16748; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:44:20 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA46928 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:38 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA12511 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wNaNL-00038gC; Sat, 3 May 97 01:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5kbesr$eda8@wombat.wm.edu> Date: 2 May 1997 01:09:47 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: snorwood@balloon.ml.org (Scott Norwood) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In article , Solstice wrote: > >That's because VI is a very powerful TEXT editor and can do a lot more >than PICO. VI can search and replace all instances in a text. VI can >import unix shell output (e.g. :r !ls -FL) text onto its message body. >EMACS is comparable to VI. Definately, agreed! Once you're used to vi, you'll never go back to pico. Pico is great for non-UNIX-geeks, but is extraordinarily primative in terms of its capabilities. Ever try to do something moderately complicated, say, take a UNIX /etc/passwd file, and strip out everything but the list of usernames (i.e. delete everything after the first ':' in each line) in pico? You'd have to go through each line individually...with vi (or sed), it's one simple regular expression, that's maybe ten or fewer characters long. -- Scott Norwood: snorwood@nyx.net, snorwood@balloon.ml.org, senorw@mail.wm.edu Lame Home Page #1: http://balloon.ml.org/ <-- School year only Lame Home Page #2: http://www.nyx.net/~snorwood/ <-- Regular page Lame Quote: Penguins? In Snack Canyon? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA18073 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA23877; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:18 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA45066; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:44:50 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA46944 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:42 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA22258 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wNaOr-00038kC; Sat, 3 May 97 01:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5kcde0$7nl@aragorn.mdh.se> Date: 2 May 1997 09:50:56 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: boran@dat95abs.campus.mdh.se (Bussiga Boran) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Help with Viewing Images References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In article , Bull writes: > > For some reason, I can't seem to view images in email or on newsgroups. > Any suggestions? I realize this is basic, but darned if I can figure it > out. Thanks. Have you tried: setup->config->image viewer='the program you wish to use'? -- Bussiga Boran ***************************************************************************** "Windows is not the answer, Windows is the question, the answer is no." ***************************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA18151 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA23886; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA16696; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:48 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA45108 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:32 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA22255 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wNaMz-00038fC; Sat, 3 May 97 01:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5kbegv$50ce@news.doit.wisc.edu> Date: 2 May 1997 01:03:27 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: jong-min@iepapc.ie.wisc.edu (Jong-Min Park) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: mapping menus to different keys? X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there any way to map menu keys to those I prefer? I find it very inconsistent to navigate across folder lists/email lists/etc. by using different keys depending on where you are. I like the way tin newsreader or lynx web browser uses, for example, where the same keys are used for entering/exiting a list or a message or a link, especially structuring everything as a hierarchy where you move up and down the level. pine seems to not structure things the same way. You have to know where you want to specifically go, such as 'M' for main menu, 'L' for folder list (except for 'E' to exit help), etc. I rather have left arrow key to get where I was before, and right arrow to get into a selected item, no matter what the item is or what item I'm looking at. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA18088 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA20072; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:26 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA45132; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:45:08 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA46952 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:44 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA21095 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wNaOU-00038jC; Sat, 3 May 97 01:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 2 May 1997 05:39:30 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca (Sylvain Robitaille) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: password in Linux Pine ??? References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 1 May 1997 17:46:50 +0200, Eigil Krogh Sorensen wrote: >How do I get Pine 3.96 on linux to remember my password ? > >The Pine uses another machine as the mailserver (Includes SMTP, INBOX ond >Mailfolders) Truth is, you really don't want Pine to remember your password. It would pose a serious security threat, since someone could use your saved password to gain access to the remote machine, and maybe exhibit nasty behaviour with your userid. As for SMTP, I'm not sure you even need to enter your password for this, but then I have sendmail handle outgoing mail on my machine... If you really don't want to have to type in your password to get your mail, consider a package like fetchmail, or some such, but as always, be aware of the security implications... -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvain Robitaille sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca http://alcor.concordia.ca/~sp_robi "I may not be totally perfect, but parts of me are excellent." -- Ashleigh Brilliant ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA18155 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA23889; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:38 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA43654; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:45:21 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA46960 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:46 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA12514 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wNaPA-00038lC; Sat, 3 May 97 01:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5kba46$977@due.unit.no> Date: 1 May 1997 23:48:22 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Q: no filter mechanisme for pine?! References: <5k2755$ccp$1@elna.ethz.ch> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In article , Sven Guckes wrote: > >Added to the Pine-4 wishlist: > > http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/pine/#wishlist Would you put something there about making pine multi-threaded so it doesn't lock up every time it rewrites the inbox? Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:48:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA18128 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:48:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA20087; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:48:18 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA43990; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:45:38 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA46968 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:48 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA00526 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wNaPe-00038mC; Sat, 3 May 97 01:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 10:32:03 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mark Crispin To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: "message to save shrank" error in pine 3.92 In-Reply-To: <5kcr7l$853@news.duke.edu> References: <5kcr7l$853@news.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 2 May 1997, Steven McElwee wrote: > Every now and then some pine users on my system run into the following > error when attempting to save a message to another folder: > > Message to save shrank! (#10: 2887 -> 1606) > > I've looked at the source code for pine 3.92 and have tracked this error > message to mailcmd.c. I'm still confused about what conditions are responsible for this occurring. I'd appreciate it if someone could > provide me with some enlightenment about this. This is a bug which should be gone once and for all in Pine 4.00. The most common cause is NULs in messages; Pine 3.xx is not NUL-safe. The error message occurs when the calculated header + text size is less than the reported "full RFC 822 size". The lower levels (imap-3.6 toolkit) know the true size of the data, but Pine's upper levels has no way to find it out other than by strlen() which terminates on NULs. We are trying to make Pine 4.00 fully NUL-safe and eliminate strlen() calls. As of the imap-4 tookit, the lower levels pass up the true size of the data to the upper levels. Pine 4.00 uses the imap-4.1 tookit. Regrettably, it is not possible to build Pine 3.9x with the imap-4.1 toolkit; you'll have to wait for Pine 4.00 to come out. We're working on it as fast as we can! -- Mark -- Unsolicited commercial email is NOT welcome at this email address. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 04:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA20018 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 04:15:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA21656; Sat, 3 May 1997 04:14:57 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id EAA19045; Sat, 3 May 1997 04:12:39 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA43530 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 04:12:04 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA03949 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 04:12:00 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 3 May 1997 19:12:23 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 19:12:22 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Difference between LCC and BCC? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Michael Pollak X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 1 May 1997, Michael Pollak wrote: > I've been sending lists using BCC for a long time now, and it works just > fine -- so long as I put something in the to line (an appropriate alias > with my address), every one the mail, but not the list of addresses. > > Does the new "lcc:" improve on this procedure in any way? All comments > appreciated. It turns a 2 step process into a 1 step process? -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 04:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA19615 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 04:17:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA21699; Sat, 3 May 1997 04:17:15 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id EAA19161; Sat, 3 May 1997 04:15:51 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA49368 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 04:15:27 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id EAA16020 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 04:15:25 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 03 May 97 13:15:10 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA01655; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:44:04 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 11:43:58 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Help with Viewing Images In-Reply-To: <5kcde0$7nl@aragorn.mdh.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bussiga Boran X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 2 May 1997, Bussiga Boran wrote: >>Bull writes: >> For some reason, I can't seem to view images in email or on newsgroups. >Have you tried: >setup->config->image viewer='the program you wish to use'? Good but not very flexible. Probably better: Check if you have metamail (you probably will). Have a look at the mailcap file (should be /etc/mailcap) and add a line like: -------------8<--------- snip here -----8<------------------ # the test line specifies that this viewer should only be used if # the display variable is set. image/jpeg; xv %s; test=test -n "$DISPLAY" # The following sends all other image subtypes to xloadimage image/*; xloadimage %s; ; test=test -n "$DISPLAY" -------------8<--------- snip here -----8<------------------ That in itself isn't all that superior to Bussiga's solution, but there should be some explanatory notes on further uses in connection with image viewers in the mailcap file. Take for instance a situation in which Notscape is already running. You could check for this and save yourself the time of starting a new viewer. You could also take a CLI jpeg--viewer and launch X viewers only for other images. Blablabla... ;-) HTH, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM2sI4We8+XvDOeNZAQG2cgf+KPnYIZtKHNu4O88joIvIxHNjeHEMBjE6 MHzq+Nyy815xQ0iNPQJchWtnfJ2U55icJtG9BIuX33TGi/cMCecPH5gQUbr00hS+ zY6T8hBqtJzX+jBI53bI7StaaYmPycYY/1ur6yaeu3pV+2vkRErvvlLL30+TynmW Rw42rE0mFOoqmiujGoF6xmksa+YVOxN5ZUiiOKQyKlmdkt5SmFVBn5Wsz4Sqt+hR iBn16CP+laEUarfohG5tiTHaDVfNIdbGSUqhiUSxd1DwuNTTtmx1J+iSqaiu4LOg WEtuVSCzczdlDJOfMkTxp3ceDq1DijVcfdvNt1T8uTKrMUURSk+tSQ== =P5Vp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 10:29:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA22231 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 10:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA29557; Sat, 3 May 1997 10:29:19 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA29266; Sat, 3 May 1997 10:25:23 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA35188 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 10:24:53 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA28685 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 10:24:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wNiXg-00038fC; Sat, 3 May 97 10:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5kfhcm$1c0m@berlioz.crs4.it> Date: 3 May 1997 14:16:54 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: amonni@bode.diee.unica.it (Andrea Monni) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Changing the From: field X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm sorry for the (maybe) FAQ but I've been 10 days looking for the answer without finding anything! I'm using pine 3.91 and I'm tryng to change the From: address but I cannot, I can only change the domain part of my email, not the user id. I've tried customizing the From: header but pine tells me it's impossible... d'u have some clue on how to do it? Or do I have to use the reply-to? TIA and sorry for the FAQ, Andrea -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |\ _,,,--,,_ Andrea Monni /,`.-'`' ._ \-;;,_ AIESEC Italy Regional Director |,4- ) )_ .;.( `'-' http://www.aiesec.org '---''(_/._)-'(_\_) AMiGA & Cats Lover! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tell me, Lucifer Morningstar... Ask yourselves, all of you... What power would HELL have if those here imprisoned were NOT able to DREAM of HEAVEN? -The Sandman- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA22533 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA26163; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:16:19 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id LAA00734; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:12:42 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA42684 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:11:54 -0700 Received: from arthur.cs.purdue.edu (0@arthur.cs.purdue.edu [128.10.2.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA10273 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:11:52 -0700 Received: from phoenix.cs.purdue.edu (1485@phoenix.cs.purdue.edu [128.10.2.59]) by arthur.cs.purdue.edu (8.8.4/PURDUE_CS-1.4) with ESMTP id NAA13858; Sat, 3 May 1997 13:11:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from simmonmt@localhost) by phoenix.cs.purdue.edu (8.8.4/PURDUE_CS-1.4) id NAA25348; Sat, 3 May 1997 13:11:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: 03 May 1997 13:11:45 -0500 Reply-To: simmonmt@acm.org Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Matt Simmons To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine In-Reply-To: snorwood@balloon.ml.org's message of 2 May 1997 01:09:47 GMT References: <5kbesr$eda8@wombat.wm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: snorwood@balloon.ml.org (Scott Norwood) X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.45/XEmacs 19.15 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN snorwood@balloon.ml.org (Scott Norwood) writes: > In article , > Solstice wrote: > >EMACS is comparable to VI. Much in the way that a Jaguar XK8 is comparable to a Gremlin - they're both cars. > Definately, agreed! Once you're used to vi, you'll never go back > to pico. Pico is great for non-UNIX-geeks, but is extraordinarily > primative in terms of its capabilities. Ever try to do something I disagree. When I'm writing e-mail, I want all of the word processing frills, like word wrap, easy navigation (w/o having to switch modes), etc. For that, I used Pico. When I need an editor for quick-and-dirty shell-script editing, or something similar, I use vi. Vi is better IMHO for editing when appearance doesn't count. When I'm doing real coding, I use XEmacs. It's all a matter of using the right tool for the right job... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA21955 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:25:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA26257; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:25:02 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id LAA01115; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:21:30 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA55230 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:21:18 -0700 Received: from arthur.cs.purdue.edu (0@arthur.cs.purdue.edu [128.10.2.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA10114 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:21:16 -0700 Received: from phoenix.cs.purdue.edu (1485@phoenix.cs.purdue.edu [128.10.2.59]) by arthur.cs.purdue.edu (8.8.4/PURDUE_CS-1.4) with ESMTP id NAA14016; Sat, 3 May 1997 13:21:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from simmonmt@localhost) by phoenix.cs.purdue.edu (8.8.4/PURDUE_CS-1.4) id NAA25578; Sat, 3 May 1997 13:21:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: 03 May 1997 13:21:03 -0500 Reply-To: simmonmt@acm.org Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Matt Simmons To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine In-Reply-To: Robin S Socha's message of Fri, 2 May 1997 23:49:12 +0200 (CEST) References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robin S Socha X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.45/XEmacs 19.15 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Robin S Socha writes: > And there's this, too: > > 109448 Dec 20 1995 /usr/bin/pico* > 172716 Aug 10 1995 /usr/bin/joe* (or jpico...) > 315772 Oct 22 1996 /usr/bin/vim* > 2804464 Aug 28 1996 /usr/X11R6/bin/xemacs* :-) On what planet? [simmonmt@phoenix]:1:14pm:~> ls -l /p/pine-3.95/../*/pine ... 2035712 Aug 7 1996 /p/pine-3.95/../hp9k7-hpux9/pine* ... 1585620 Jan 20 16:37 /p/pine-3.95/../i86pc-sos5/pine* ... 2484800 Aug 1 1996 /p/pine-3.95/../mips-irix5/pine* ... 2484800 Aug 1 1996 /p/pine-3.95/../mips-irix6/pine* ... 2039808 Aug 1 1996 /p/pine-3.95/../sun4-sos4/pine* ... 2456708 Aug 1 1996 /p/pine-3.95/../sun4-sos5/pine* (yes, they're all stripped) [simmonmt@phoenix]:1:18pm:/p/p20/xemacs-19.15> ls -l */xemacs -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4861952 Apr 3 13:26 hp9k7-hpux9/xemacs* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3172384 Apr 2 16:30 i86pc-sos5/xemacs* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 5584088 Mar 27 19:57 mips-irix5/xemacs* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3953712 Apr 3 15:13 mips-irix6/xemacs* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4292608 Mar 27 18:41 sun4-sos4/xemacs* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 3358164 Mar 27 21:55 sun4-sos5/xemacs* Given the extra functionality you get with xemacs (ignoring the 16M lisp directory), I'd say they were pretty well matched. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA22653 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA26329; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:32:00 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id LAA01300; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:27:31 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA55066 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:27:16 -0700 Received: from arthur.cs.purdue.edu (0@arthur.cs.purdue.edu [128.10.2.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA10896 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:27:15 -0700 Received: from phoenix.cs.purdue.edu (1485@phoenix.cs.purdue.edu [128.10.2.59]) by arthur.cs.purdue.edu (8.8.4/PURDUE_CS-1.4) with ESMTP id NAA14100; Sat, 3 May 1997 13:27:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from simmonmt@localhost) by phoenix.cs.purdue.edu (8.8.4/PURDUE_CS-1.4) id NAA25668; Sat, 3 May 1997 13:27:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: 03 May 1997 13:27:08 -0500 Reply-To: simmonmt@acm.org Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Matt Simmons To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine In-Reply-To: Christopher Hicks's message of Fri, 2 May 1997 21:03:01 -0400 (EDT) References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Christopher Hicks X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.45/XEmacs 19.15 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Christopher Hicks writes: > On Fri, 2 May 1997, Robin S Socha wrote: > > On Fri, 2 May 1997, Christopher Hicks wrote: > > [features in mailers] > > >I need those features. Something that was smarter about > > >justification of quoted blocked would save me ten minutes per week. > > "supercite"? > Do we have patches to make it work in pine? Just as soon as you rewrite it in lisp. =) > > >Having an addressbook that has better functionality built in would save > > >me more time than that. > > "BBDB"? > I'm not familiar with that acronym, would you explain it? BBDB stands for the Insidious Big Brother Database, a wonderful package that functions as sort of a rolodex on steroids. It has all of the functionality of the Pine addressbook, but it also supports user-defined fields, it can automagically build database entries by scanning your mail messages, and it can (with Gnus, don't know about other mailers), tag messages from people for whom you have BBDB entries. > > >The beauty of pine is that these features can be added, but > > >off-by-default for those users that don't want them. > > ...thereby making pine even bigger than it already is? > Bigger isn't bad if done properly. Which is why I do so love the lisp subdirectory (or site-lisp) found in *Emacs installations. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 13:09:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA23286 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 13:09:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA27391; Sat, 3 May 1997 13:09:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA08971; Sat, 3 May 1997 13:04:55 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA43966 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 13:02:57 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA14845 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 13:02:55 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 03 May 97 22:02:38 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA05874; Sat, 3 May 1997 21:48:55 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 21:48:48 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: simmonmt@acm.org X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 3 May 1997, Matt Simmons wrote: >Robin S Socha writes: [snipped some giant ls -al soapbox, just to be back with a vengeance] Ok, here's what I got...: 15785 root 1 0 2464 2464 1656 T 0 0.0 7.9 0:00 xemacs 15738 root 0 0 2092 2012 908 S 0 0.0 6.4 0:01 pine 15789 root 6 0 716 716 524 S 0 0.0 2.3 0:00 vi 15783 root 1 0 628 628 336 S 0 0.0 2.0 0:00 joe >Given the extra functionality you get with xemacs (ignoring the 16M >lisp directory), I'd say they were pretty well matched. I fully agree. XEmacs rules, Gnus's better than pine. Objections anyone? But can you use Gnus on your CLI without refcard? Would you give it to an inexperienced user? =8-} Would you moderate the mailing list for it? However, I still cannot quite see where this thread is leading to. While in general, I share your views on expandability and customization, I think that you're aiming at the wrong target. IMAO, a user that needs the features you're asking for doesn't need pine anymore, but is better off using Gnus instead, anyway. I mean, the spirit of u*ix (correct me if I'm wrong again) is to combine several tools to achieve various goals: in this sense, I don't see XEmacs as an editor, but rather as an environment for basically everything I need for my work (programming, email, news, www, making coffee [does anyone remember the name of that .el which lets you hook up electric gadgets?). You seem to be thinking along the same lines, so your suggestions might miss the target, because pine is a specialised tool. Its purpose is emails and news, not a full-fledged database (BBDB), filtering (procmail), fancy yanking (supercite), or even encryption (those filter-scripts are nice, but mailcrypt is ultimately better). All _I_ want is better yanking in pico, and maybe pgp within pine (which cannot be done for reasons of US legislation). If you could come up with a Deluxe version of pine that turns into a pizza with a large Coke at midnight, everybody would love you. So here we are, deploring the world's injustice, dreaming of a better world in which Alphas come at $500 and everyone has a 300MB Ramdisk... *sigh* I guess it's one of those lonely Saturday evenings... >:-> Have a nice weekend, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** Free Software: Contribute nothing, expect nothing -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM2uWo2e8+XvDOeNZAQF9yQgAimUeqZn3TVjPsn7BpaZ5GU2B0pYEhuNL o3Yi6i+UvpiGnz6cIhw8RzmyzqlDY/v2KcEGskEmEqv7pZSKBDraP4SSTCRzzAhx B+S2uIPF1+LtqiJ5fqgjZi1RFBPSeTCI5t+Y8qyQgHGqu/+4dVoakbFPVJxJvzyK Tkz7Y+rt28QitdFf0VQBnxSkhTVHHsgTPztPDR1ylkL+uGNDI/54AkvFJpjrI4FG btLyc12ccK/P7Eikn68ziXTo/1Prxbc1/RVLSe8x5F05tmALXHZM4s3I3nwSV32v d7+VhLcNhBup50Ok+aS9P/KRrY0ibgk3gCf7E4HzXlO7MsCtki6i7A== =FYUe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 17:32:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA25337 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 17:32:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA00285; Sat, 3 May 1997 17:32:47 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA50470; Sat, 3 May 1997 17:29:26 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA45232 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 17:28:59 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA25731 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 17:28:58 -0700 Received: from tuppence_cac (D-140-142-189-198.dhcp.washington.edu [140.142.189.198]) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA08233; Sat, 3 May 1997 17:28:55 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 17:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: mapping menus to different keys? In-Reply-To: <5kbegv$50ce@news.doit.wisc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jong-Min Park X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN There will be some improvements in this area in Pine 4.00 -teg On 2 May 1997, Jong-Min Park wrote: > > Is there any way to map menu keys to those I prefer? I find it very > inconsistent to navigate across folder lists/email lists/etc. by > using different keys depending on where you are. > > I like the way tin newsreader or lynx web browser uses, for example, > where the same keys are used for entering/exiting a list or a message > or a link, especially structuring everything as a hierarchy where you > move up and down the level. > > pine seems to not structure things the same way. You have to know > where you want to specifically go, such as 'M' for main menu, 'L' > for folder list (except for 'E' to exit help), etc. > > I rather have left arrow key to get where I was before, and right > arrow to get into a selected item, no matter what the item is or > what item I'm looking at. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 May 1997 01:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA01334 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 01:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA09778; Sun, 4 May 1997 01:13:27 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id AAA23355; Sun, 4 May 1997 00:57:56 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA06088 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 00:50:12 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id AAA10014 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 00:50:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wNvvj-00038fC; Sun, 4 May 97 00:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <336A8242.4675@sade.com> Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 02:09:38 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Antony To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: pine/linux INBOX/OUTBOX copy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hy there! I'm new in this section and would like to know from any "prof" if there is any possibility to: * copy incoming mails and redirect this copies to an other eMail address (home-address), as a background task... * send the complete INBOX as one eMail/File to an other eMail address (home-address), eg. twice a day. (even if one is not logged on) Are there any programs who do this? Any hints, suggestions are very welcome!!! Thanx! Antony PS: System is Linux, Pine 3.95 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 May 1997 01:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA28521 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 01:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA09878; Sun, 4 May 1997 01:21:30 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA27794; Sun, 4 May 1997 01:06:34 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA05936 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 00:51:36 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id AAA10039 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 00:51:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wNvwP-00038gC; Sun, 4 May 97 00:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5ke858$9t4@crl.crl.com> Date: 2 May 1997 19:33:12 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: katwoman@crl.com (M. Hunter) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: pine/linux INBOX/OUTBOX copy References: <336A8242.4675@sade.com> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In rant <336A8242.4675@sade.com>, Antony babbled: >Hy there! > >I'm new in this section and would like to know from any "prof" if there >is >any possibility to: > * copy incoming mails and redirect this copies to an other eMail >address (home-address), as a background task... > * send the complete INBOX as one eMail/File to an other eMail > address (home-address), eg. twice a day. > (even if one is not logged on) >Are there any programs who do this? Any hints, suggestions are very >welcome!!! > >Thanx! > >Antony > >PS: System is Linux, Pine 3.95 Suggestion: try man forward This should be able to do the closest thing you're looking for. Also, as far as sending an INBOX, find out where the inbox is stored..like /var/mail/username or something, and read man at or man cron and tell at or cron to send the file at a certain time by doing this: cat mailfile | mail recipient@host.dom You might use cron. It's easier. You use the crontab command. If you use at, type at time1 'cat mailfile | mail user;at time1 cat mailfile | mail user' at time2 'cat mailfile | mail user;at time2 cat mailfile | mail user' the second at is to tell at to run the command again, as once it runs it, it'll just forget it. cron on the other hand remembers...but some systems won't let normal users use cron... :) hope this helps. -- Phyre | By sending unsolicited, commercial email to | this email address, you agree to recieve up http://www.crl.com/~katwoman | to 2 gigabytes of random core dump in return. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 May 1997 04:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA19392 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 04:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA12087; Sun, 4 May 1997 04:22:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id EAA25010; Sun, 4 May 1997 04:17:34 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA06078 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 04:10:51 -0700 Received: from shivax.cac.washington.edu (shivax.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.4]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA03735 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 04:10:49 -0700 Received: (from skramer@localhost) by shivax.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) id DAA19852 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 4 May 1997 03:00:07 -0700 Message-Id: <199705041000.DAA19852@shivax.cac.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 03:00:07 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: pine-robot@docserver.cac.washington.edu To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: WHERE TO FIND INFORMATION ABOUT PINE X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is being sent to this mailing list weekly in order to aid readers in finding information about Pine. Before sending questions to the mailing list -- which is mirrored in the newsgroup comp.mail.pine -- please consult these resources: The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive help. Additional information, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, Questions & Answers, where to obtain the Pine software, what tools are available to perform tasks that Pine itself does not, and more, can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form. - The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[] The messages from this mailing list/newsgroup are archived. These archives can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ (includes a searchable index of all archived messages, and information on how to subscribe to this mailing list) - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/pine-info/. - From within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[] If you have a question about Pine, chances are it has been asked before and you can find the answer either through the searchable index of past messages, or among the "Questions & Answers" at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/ or ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/QandA.txt If you need personal assistance with using or configuring Pine, contact the technical support staff or computer help desk of your Internet Service Provider, school, university, employer, ... -- whichever organization provided you with the email account on which you are using, or planning on using, Pine. Because system functions and configuration can vary from site to site, they are best qualified to assist you. (Due to the large number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington cannot provide individual support services to Pine users at other organizations.) Sun May 4 03:00:07 PDT 1997 ----------------------------------- Pine development and support team University of Washington Computing & Communications ----------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA32553 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA15841; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:07:57 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA17691; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:04:20 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA31376 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:02:24 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA25816 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:02:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wO4c2-00038fC; Sun, 4 May 97 09:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <01bc58aa$028841a0$836aa5c6@default> Date: 4 May 1997 16:37:34 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "C. Black" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Apology for posting! X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I would like to extend my utmost apologies for any inconvenience, insult or offence I may have caused to the users of this newsgroup by my posting of Big Bucks 2 on May 3, 1997. I am a new user to the newsgroups and did not realize that I was doing anything wrong. Again I apologize for this matter. C. Blackmore. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA20971 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA16322; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:49:46 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA26986; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:44:22 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA48330 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:43:32 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA27525 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:43:31 -0700 Received: from nicon.nicon.org (roberts@nicon.nicon.org [207.53.163.33]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA16250 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:43:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (roberts@localhost) by nicon.nicon.org (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA24993 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:43:28 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 10:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robert Sylvester To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: export text MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN How do I prYnt or Export e-mail messages to a text file on my computer? any help will be greatly appreciated. Bob Sylvester From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 May 1997 12:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA00512 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 12:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA12618; Sun, 4 May 1997 12:12:44 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA09315; Sun, 4 May 1997 12:08:59 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA40152 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 12:08:28 -0700 Received: from mail.ilnk.com (mail.ilnk.com [206.72.159.4]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA01351 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 12:08:19 -0700 Received: from [205.131.2.14] by mail.ilnk.com (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with SMTP id AAA45 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:09:07 -0400 Message-Id: <336CEC6A.64C2@ilnk.com> Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 15:07:06 -0500 Reply-To: jackpot@ilnk.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jackpot@ilnk.com (Voelker, Roy) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: "Pine Discussion Forum" "Pine Discussion Forum" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; 68K) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN someone is sending me all your mail. i now have over 1100 messages for you in my mailbox. check to see if we are on your mailing list and remove us if so. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 May 1997 14:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA17618 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 14:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA14413; Sun, 4 May 1997 14:36:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA22342; Sun, 4 May 1997 14:28:45 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA49548 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 14:27:56 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA08016 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 14:27:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wO8n4-00038fC; Sun, 4 May 97 14:25 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 23:08:03 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: mcc@gtegsc.com (Merton Campbell Crockett) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: MAILCAP Syntax References: <5kcde0$7nl@aragorn.mdh.se> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Several quick questions. (1) In MAILCAP.SAM there are two examples for specifying an application to process a MIME attachment. Is the semicolon, ";". a part of the syntax? Or, is it there to have the remainder of the line treated as a comment? (2) If there is an entry in MAILCAP for a specific MIME type, does there need to be a corresponding entry in MIMETYPE? (3) If MAILCAP exists, must MIMETYPE also exist? Merton Campbell Crockett GTE Government Systems, ESD/IOO From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA02064 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA19662; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:42:46 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA24090; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:36:11 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA27896 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:35:52 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA20374 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:35:49 -0700 Received: from mx1.eskimo.com (mx1.eskimo.com [204.122.16.48]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA14996 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:35:47 -0700 Received: from eskimo.com (sulla@eskimo.com [204.122.16.13]) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA16249 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:35:46 -0700 Received: from localhost by eskimo.com (8.8.5) id PAA06354; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:35:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 15:35:42 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: sulla@pobox.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Carlos Nunes-Ueno To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Annoying messages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN As a long time user of pine, I'm familiar with messages that pine spits out, like these: Move current "sent-mail" to "sent-mail-apr-1997"? and Move current "read-messages" to "read-messages-apr-1997"? My current problem is that I can't get these to stop coming up. I've never had a use for this "feature" anyway, but I've ingored it in the past because it only came up once a month. Is there anyway I can turn it off, now that it's decided to ask me every single last time? +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |-Carlos Nunes-Ueno sulla@pobox.com Eskimo North, gotta love it!-| |----------------------------------------------------------------------------| |"The wood porch faced east. First sunrise burned the mist from the hilly | |hollows, then dried out the webs spiders spun overnight between leaves of | |grass. A distant chain saw cut into the birdsong; the rising wind whipped | |blue butterflies with stalks of goldenrod." | | -Actual copy from a Japanese brand of instant coffee | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA02972 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:16:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA20716; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:16:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA23374; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:12:43 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA37060 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:12:16 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA13727 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:12:14 -0700 Received: from mail.mel.aone.net.au (mail.mel.aone.net.au [203.12.176.157]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA20679 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:12:11 -0700 Received: from d135-1.cpe.Hamilton.aone.net.au (d135-1.cpe.Hamilton.aone.net.au [203.61.49.135]) by mail.mel.aone.net.au (8.6.13/8.6.11) with SMTP id KAA13844 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:12:08 +1000 Message-Id: <336D25AB.72F8@h140.aone.net.au> Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 10:11:23 +1000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Maree Bell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: re: characterists of radita pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I; 16bit) X-URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/95.09/msg00044.html X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN we would be most grateful if you could forward information on the above to our college library. student is dean cameron with thanks maree bell librarian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA06840 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA21991; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:07:47 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id CAA14765; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:04:49 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA43908 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:04:28 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id CAA27317 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:04:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOJgW-00038fC; Mon, 5 May 97 02:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 09:54:33 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Barry Landy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Annoying messages In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Use your favourite editor to edit pinerc (setup config cannot do the following). Look for the line last-time-prune-questioned=97.5 (the last numbers will be the last year and month) Set the final number to something very large (i have 999.99), eg: last-time-prune-questioned=999.99 You will never see the messages again....! On 4 May 1997, Carlos Nunes-Ueno wrote: :>As a long time user of pine, I'm familiar with messages that pine spits :>out, like these: :> :>Move current "sent-mail" to "sent-mail-apr-1997"? :> :>and :> :>Move current "read-messages" to "read-messages-apr-1997"? :> :>My current problem is that I can't get these to stop coming up. I've :>never had a use for this "feature" anyway, but I've ingored it in the past :>because it only came up once a month. Is there anyway I can turn it off, :>now that it's decided to ask me every single last time? :> :>+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ :>|-Carlos Nunes-Ueno sulla@pobox.com Eskimo North, gotta love it!-| :>|----------------------------------------------------------------------------| :>|"The wood porch faced east. First sunrise burned the mist from the hilly | :>|hollows, then dried out the webs spiders spun overnight between leaves of | :>|grass. A distant chain saw cut into the birdsong; the rising wind whipped | :>|blue butterflies with stalks of goldenrod." | :>| -Actual copy from a Japanese brand of instant coffee | :>+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ :> :> :> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 1223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:41:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA08973 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:41:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA29143; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:41:30 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id FAA19286; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:31:07 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA39962 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:30:09 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA17936 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:30:08 -0700 Received: from dev.abc.com.uz (root@dev.abc.com.uz [194.58.80.161]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA24155 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:29:57 -0700 Received: (from uufree@localhost) by dev.abc.com.uz with UUCP id RAA00661 (8.8.4/abc); Mon, 5 May 1997 17:11:36 +0500 Received: from hal.freenet.uz (nturdiev@hal.freenet.uz [194.58.80.2]) by joshua.freenet.uz (8.8.5/FreeNET-2) with ESMTP id PAA26578; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:55:12 +0500 Received: from localhost (nturdiev@localhost) by hal.freenet.uz (8.8.5/FreeNET-1) with SMTP id PAA25680; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:57:14 +0600 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:57:14 +0600 (TSD) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nodir Turdiev To: "Pine Discussion Forum" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Robin S Socha X-Sender: nturdiev@hal.freenet.uz X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN HI!!! I have just found out that it is possible to take info from INTERNET via Email. However, I do not know whether it is possible to access sound, picture, actions, etc. or not. Do you have any idea about that? REPLY!!! By the way send http, ftp addresses(cool stuff!). ======================================================= Nodir Turdiev UWE&D, IER depart. Tashkent. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA08757 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA29158; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:43:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id FAA19455; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:39:15 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA41488 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:38:52 -0700 Received: from lwcunix.lwc.edu (LWCUNIX.LWC.EDU [159.230.37.17]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id FAA18338 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:38:46 -0700 Received: from localhost by lwcunix.lwc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA17942; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:50:50 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 07:50:50 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Greg Tsigaridas To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine and Win95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Can anybody who is using Windows95 to access Pine (via Telnet, of course) please get in touch with me! I'm finding it impossible to print messages and wondering at this point if it's even possible to print using Win95... Thanks alot! Greg Tsigaridas gtsigari@lwcunix.lwc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA08421 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA29329; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:59:41 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id FAA20153; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:55:19 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA36822 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:54:59 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id FAA26669 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:54:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wONFT-00038fC; Mon, 5 May 97 05:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 5 May 1997 12:50:48 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@cauchy.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Q: no filter mechanisme for pine?! References: <5k2755$ccp$1@elna.ethz.ch> <5kba46$977@due.unit.no> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen): > Sven Guckes wrote: > >Added to the Pine-4 wishlist: > > http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/pine/#wishlist > > Would you put something there about making pine multi-threaded > so it doesn't lock up every time it rewrites the inbox? I would do so if I didn't have to read all posts in all newsgroups so I catch someone suggesting it in some subthread. ;-) Read: Send me an email about it and I'll see about adding it. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA08565 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:01:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA00207; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:01:23 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id GAA36646; Mon, 5 May 1997 06:50:47 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA43960 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 06:49:43 -0700 Received: from eagle.ais.net (rwilshe@eagle.ais.net [199.0.154.5]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA29899 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 06:49:42 -0700 Received: from localhost (rwilshe@localhost) by eagle.ais.net (8.8.5/AIS) with SMTP id IAA29700; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:49:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 08:49:22 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robert J. Wilshe" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine and Win95 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Greg Tsigaridas X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Greg: A common problem that I had my share of frustration with also! The packaged emulator that ships with Win95 does not accept the printer control codes that are passed when you "print-from-ansi". You need a different emulator. Here are two I suggest, both free, and work great: http://www.lysator.liu.se/~zander/ewan.html EWAN Terminal Emulator Not much of a looker, but a great, dependable product. (I'm using it now!) http://www.hilgraeve.com/htpe.html HyperTerminal Upgrade This company wrote the HyperTerminal applet that shipped with Win95, but as it stands, it doesn't support Telnet. This upgrade does, and has some other cool enhancements. It's called the HyperTerminal Private Edition. *Both* of the above support printer control codes and print great. My preference is for the HyperTerminal upgrade. I find it easier to format the page for printing, and you can set margins, etc. (much like a word processor). But, try 'em both out. Both downloads are less than 1 meg, I believe, and both are good products for different reasons. Try and decide. Hope this helps! Regards, \\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\ robert chicago illinois joseph u s a wilshe rwilshe @ ais.net //\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\// On Mon, 5 May 1997, Greg Tsigaridas wrote: > > Can anybody who is using Windows95 to access Pine (via Telnet, of course) > please get in touch with me! I'm finding it impossible to print messages > and wondering at this point if it's even possible to print using Win95... > > Thanks alot! > > Greg Tsigaridas > gtsigari@lwcunix.lwc.edu > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA10063 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA00740; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:35:52 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA35294; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:31:01 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA05906 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:30:12 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA25777 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:30:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOOlQ-00038fC; Mon, 5 May 97 07:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 5 May 1997 13:42:43 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@cauchy.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: stupid request References: <336D25AB.72F8@h140.aone.net.au> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN mcl@h140.aone.net.au (Maree Bell): > we would be most grateful if you could forward information on > the above to our college library. student is dean cameron You don't mind giving his address, do you? And before you post a snail mail address - this is an electronic medium, so give an email address, ok?! Yes, I have changed the Subject: line - hopefully showing that this is possible and also that the body of a request should state what the request is all about. HTH. Sven -- It's about time for drivers' licences for the infobahn! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA07146 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA25856; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:45:50 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA38358; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:39:02 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA08418 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:38:20 -0700 Received: from students.aurora.edu (students.aurora.edu [192.203.224.5]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA21887 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:38:17 -0700 Received: from localhost by students.aurora.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/13Aug96-0736AM) id AA10345; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:36:04 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 09:36:04 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Lowe To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine and Win95 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Greg Tsigaridas X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Greg -- Been there. Done that. Works OK. Right now, I am telnetted to my email system (via EWAN). I can print locally or to a system printer. Also, I have the 32-bit version of PINE operational -- can do printing to both locally attached and system printers. You can contact me via email or land line (630 844 5290). -- Steve Lowe Aurora University slowe@admin.aurora.edu On Mon, 5 May 1997, Greg Tsigaridas wrote: > > Can anybody who is using Windows95 to access Pine (via Telnet, of course) > please get in touch with me! I'm finding it impossible to print messages > and wondering at this point if it's even possible to print using Win95... > > Thanks alot! > > Greg Tsigaridas > gtsigari@lwcunix.lwc.edu > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA10571 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA01102; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:57:24 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA25684; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:46:45 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA54620 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:45:44 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA22586 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:45:41 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA00878 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:45:37 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 05 May 97 16:45:21 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA01731; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:28:27 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:28:23 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Sven Guckes X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 5 May 1997, Sven Guckes wrote: >> uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de (Robin S Socha): >> All _I_ want is better yanking in pico > >Any more features would make pico more complicated and thus it would rule >out pico as a "simple editor". >Therefore - forget it! If you want more then use another editor! I'm being forced to do that, and I don't mind, because I need more features than pico offers. Granted, joe's almost twice as big as pico, but it has the features I need, while IMNSHO maintaining all of pico's ease of use. Granted, too, that vim is *much* better than joe, but I find it utterly cryptic, even compared to emacs (ymmv). It's just not something I would give to inexperienced users, unless they had touched my computer. >:-> However, there is a middle ground between "simple" (one might say patronizingly primitive) and "complicated" a.k.a. badly documented. Joe has a nice help screen that could be customized for pine to reflect all features that are currently available in pico. Furthermore, when run in jpico mode, there are no differences between joe and pico as far as keyboard shortcuts are concerned. Now, if you wanted more features than offered initially, you could still use them, because they would be explained in additional and easily accessible help screens. Simply put: ^J remains ^J, but now does proper yanking of this: >> If you could come up with a Deluxe version of pine that turns into a >> pizza with a large Coke at midnight, everybody would love you. >... and then they will kill you the next day when they find out you've >eaten it. Not too bad, right? >> However, I still cannot quite see where this thread is leading to. >I hear that emacs-20 will have mind-reading and future-telling... >Followup-To: comp.religion.editors If you want to use any flavour of emacs, you have to have been born with these abilities. BTW, comp.religion alone will do. Emacs is, after all, the editor of gods. =8-} Later, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM23geGe8+XvDOeNZAQFtpgf/WVNcDrSk7+EHjlqWB9kXY8VaFkr+5ZfH 4jUkd8Vdz8BjfAm3FMJR/pGycxwpUgKP7nscSbHVSriRhyUDSFsyt4OQcinKDtMu 0mGWfJqBtRdTuCDZA1rZR1ToPANxJyet8mH/oRrZEujTPGYkwjMn9sa/a7JwOSM8 An9jyL1hIFOVC61JGrkqVyvPUHghKz79fGJOyWJ8yWYIaFDL1xVStqxdF00zxOab L0eI3TI3tlNV4BiYD8xUTy5U9GrHqr5NNFy4z+P+LRtHueoXOpY7ta0O3jMGfVTr jAbg+BJK3Sq4vPl/LnXCh2IU7+weF88fC67Ov3YPiFt3CC6fu/McyA== =Jk7u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA10631 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA01105; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:57:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA25726; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:47:10 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA48998 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:45:45 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA22590 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:45:43 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA00880 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:45:40 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 05 May 97 16:45:25 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA01652; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:05:22 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:05:17 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Nodir Turdiev X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 5 May 1997, Nodir Turdiev wrote: Hi Nodir, >I have just found out that it is possible to take info from INTERNET via >Email. However, I do not know whether it is possible to access sound, >picture, actions, etc. or not. Do you have any idea about that? REPLY!!! Yes, it's possible. No, this is not the right forum for your request. And NO!!!, it's not polite to use aol (c) style syntax in a serious discussion group. Had you read the netiquette, you'd know that... >By the way send http, ftp addresses(cool stuff!). Definitly not, and the same goes true for all the other freenet.uz guys out there. Just because you've been given pine as your email program doesn't mean that you can spew your requests into this mailing list. It's being read by quite a few people out there, and many of them get a *lot* of emails a day. Unrelated, irrelevant and generally meaningless mails like yours here cause a lot of distress among those people who want to actually help others with, in this case, pine. Cheers, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM23bD2e8+XvDOeNZAQFwyQgAgVXSkkFbhax8CPmaCUqYvA95cwWt9LCi hxp/xlwXeN0iWnXA36xX2JMTpNUASVbeGgIKFPape5KJnHJbzJHe+nZHBFp+Ajg3 PlLhz207vSNb5hj9u9wmzFXsAwZYxTe+xViWFuPdy2lMqtNTwuWl207NxRIfFJuq dbZC9+vmH1d4P/Sm1Bv5nVYqCE9HwhaenPBIycq01gJnHm/cBGFfORDloY5jiS0T jLG/19xdKzIcaOInxbZcKK8Dkpd3oEXUX+w7NRBd+Rc4bEY6xIh6engDYb5nz8nP 0rCexEBbYq0O35VQPLZ+jqftatnObJNNvyKxHNOIhpMUy0T7DUBEhQ== =C5FY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA10872 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA26239; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:06:57 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA26801; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:03:19 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA25590 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:02:14 -0700 Received: from noc.ns.itd.umich.edu (noc.ns.itd.umich.edu [192.231.253.42]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA13510 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:02:12 -0700 Received: from loompa.ns.itd.umich.edu (loompa.ns.itd.umich.edu [192.231.253.18]) by noc.ns.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA24973 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:02:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (dkoski@localhost) by loompa.ns.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA20425 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:02:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 11:02:09 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David Koski To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Authenication problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: loompa.ns.itd.umich.edu: dkoski owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Anyone know why I'm getting this error in syslog? May 5 10:59:00 loompa.ns.itd.umich.edu sendmail[20396]: KAA20396: Authentication-Warning: loompa.ns.itd.umich.edu: dkoski owned process doing -bs It only happens when using pine. Thanks David ------------------------------------------------------------------------ UMNet MichNet CICNet Merit RA ------------------------------------------------------------------------ dkoski@umich.edu Computer Systems Consultant II Spectrum Administration Network Operations Center Unix Administration U of M Information Technology Division From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA11506 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA26516; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:16:08 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA54718; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:08:17 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA45460 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:07:42 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA06626 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:07:40 -0700 Received: from jewel.morgan.edu (ftrim@jewel.morgan.edu [158.103.13.12]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA26259 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:07:37 -0700 Received: from localhost (ftrim@localhost) by jewel.morgan.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA08367 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:07:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 11:07:35 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Fayola C. Trim" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Disappointed User (No wonder the service is FREE!) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To whom it may concern, Today was the worst day of my life. For the first time in months I was expecting to hear from my brother, who lives in the Caribbean, by E-Mail. Back there it is so costly that he can only afford to login once a week. In any event, I was unable to get his letter because not only did I have to login twice, I also lost ALL my messages. On my first login this so-called new wave of technology stated that I had mail and after telling me that it could not connect me to PINE; upon logging in for the umpteenth time, to my utter dismay, "0 Messages" appeared at the top of my screen. I am regretting ever succumbing to this piece of rubbish. I should have gone with my every instinct and supported the USPS by buying a stamp in the first place. "New wave of technology my FOOT!!!!" Yours most angrily, Disappointed user. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA13179 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:08:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA27802; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:08:17 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id JAA21650; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:01:11 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA35244 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:00:23 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id JAA29882 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:00:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOQ9L-00038hC; Mon, 5 May 97 08:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <3369D417.748C@atmu.cs.siu.edu> Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 06:46:31 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shane Simmons To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: pine/linux INBOX/OUTBOX copy References: <336A8242.4675@sade.com> <5kempc$prq$1@news.hal-pc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN root of all evil wrote: > > In alt.hacker Antony wrote: > : is > : any possibility to: > : * copy incoming mails and redirect this copies to an other eMail > : address (home-address), as a background task... > : * send the complete INBOX as one eMail/File to an other eMail > : address (home-address), eg. twice a day. > : (even if one is not logged on) > : Are there any programs who do this? Any hints, suggestions are very > : welcome!!! > > yes. with shell scripts, cron jobs, and a .forward file. > type man crontab at yer friendly neighborhood linux prompt to find out > how. i'd try to tell you more, but i'm so braindead tired right now > that i'd probably tell you wrong. > -- > ----- > ~angela > so many people... > so few bullets hey dipshit quit logging in as root! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:31:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA13778 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:31:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA28424; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:31:20 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id JAA11304; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:24:49 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA25350 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:23:26 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id JAA15149 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:23:24 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 05 May 97 18:23:08 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA02431; Mon, 5 May 1997 17:59:16 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 17:59:11 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Disappointed User (No wonder the service is FREE!) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Fayola C. Trim" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum , "Daniel W. Moehwald" X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Due to negligence, Fayola C. Trim let this slip into my inbox of terror on Setting Orange, the 52nd day of Discord in the YOLD 3163: > Today was the worst day of my life. So you thought you needed a lot of people share your self-afflicted anger? Get a life... Your mail was insultive, utterly meaningless and didn't apparently have *any*thing to do with pine whatsoever... [snipped some ridiculous nonsense about some third world island] >In any event, I was unable to get his letter because not only did I have >to login twice, Why? Doesn't happen unless enforced by user [you] >I also lost ALL my messages. Impossible unless caused by user [you] >On my first login this so-called new wave of technology stated that I had >mail and after telling me that it could not connect me to PINE; Why? Either it's there or it isn't. If it isn't there it isn't there. So it's not a pine problem you're whining about. >upon logging in for the umpteenth time, Why? c.f. above... [you] >to my utter dismay, "0 Messages" appeared at the top of my screen. Impossible, unless you manually deleted them [you] > I am regretting ever succumbing to this piece of rubbish. Did anyone force you to do that? Don't think so... [you] >I should have gone with my every instinct and supported the USPS by >buying a stamp in the first place. No. Should have taken your mouse chord and hung yourself. As an alternative, you might consider learning the basics of using a computer. All the symptoms you described can be traced back to *utter*, *total*, *criminal* ignorance on your behalf. How about this: Get a gun, shoot yourself and try whining that it didn't tell you bullets are lethal afterwards. A computer is a tool, not a toy (though MS sometimes leads one to believe people wish it were). >"New wave of technology my FOOT!!!!" Why don't you do it yourself? Can you not even do that on your own? >Yours most angrily, Whiner. >Disappointed user. Luser. You're running pine on a local SGI --- anyone important enough to gain access to such a machine should have enough common sense to Read The F* Manual before he starts insulting people that devote their time and energy to offer a marvellous little program for free. Free Software: Contribute nothing, expect nothing Write a better mailer (if you can use it, it can be considered idiot--proof) and make the world a lot happier. Otherwise go [censored] yourself. Cheers, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** What the world needs now is killfiles that actually kill. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM24D0Ge8+XvDOeNZAQF4qwf9HNA1o9dY6PsqgpBjxk+bl1AQ5u6Vu6oR IQ0xB7yKW+f3UGkrVopbxdDBRvrPjddewRGXisoYzZ1UWpq+0QQchvz4Y7pkFgyf CCar1YxOs/FJNTQuLu+wfpYVJamo14eCWVj8udcUa5v7G84sCPQ0kdYgS1npNY1+ aI5KmhIs5LOdCHyblxBDBuQ94WsFwkmnOIAIqFxzjhpMdFaBC4y6S8iH7NmESOCD c1bG2GZmUwmWQrr6V1AUKkBWWTV+PPiLwJsJArCR4Zwb/zBRIhkLHb47ZKwfuq08 G0tM0epFa00lsz2/HCIPvv+Jr6EP3f4k6h8+HhnzgfXoBtfy13kR9Q== =X6tp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA07856 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA29686; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:13:58 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA13430; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:07:47 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA56464 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:07:16 -0700 Received: from XRAY.BMC.UU.SE (XRAY.bmc.uu.se [130.238.37.10]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA07663 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:07:14 -0700 Received: from alfasud.bmc.uu.se by XRAY.BMC.UU.SE with SMTP; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:39:10 +0300 (MET-DST) Received: by alfasud.bmc.uu.se; id AA17731; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:07:10 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 19:07:10 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: John Marelius To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: PC-pine for WinNT 4.0 on DEC Alpha? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: john@alfasud.bmc.uu.se X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Has anyone compiled PC-Pine for WindowsNT on the DEC Alpha platform? If so, I'd appreciate to get a copy of the executable. If not, I'd be willing to try. Is the source code publicly available? (It wasn't in the PC-Pine for Win32 package.) regards John Marelius +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | John Marelius | | Dept. of Molecular Biology, Uppsala University | | E-mail: john@xray.bmc.uu.se | | www: http://www.ibg.uu.se/~john | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:17:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA12046 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA04757; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:17:20 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA50906; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:12:02 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA49300 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:10:43 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA20493 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:10:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOREO-00038fC; Mon, 5 May 97 10:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 5 May 1997 17:06:25 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@cauchy.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Untitled References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN nturdiev@uwed.freenet.uz (Nodir Turdiev): > I have just found out that it is possible to take info from INTERNET via > Email. However, I do not know whether it is possible to access sound, > picture, actions, etc. or not. Do you have any idea about that? REPLY!!! > By the way send http, ftp addresses(cool stuff!). Data for email has to be encoded and decoded - you don't want that. If you want WWW then get a WWW browser and install it. And please give your messages a meaningful Subject: line - "Untitled" is not very descriptive. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA16578 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA02067; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:39:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id LAA13572; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:34:24 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA25810 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:33:59 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA00308 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:33:56 -0700 Received: from nicon.nicon.org (roberts@nicon.nicon.org [207.53.163.33]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA01862 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:33:54 -0700 Received: from localhost (roberts@localhost) by nicon.nicon.org (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA06380 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:33:51 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 11:33:51 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robert Sylvester To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: eXport files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am having difficulty setting up my Pine account to download eXported files to my computer. If someone can help me with this problem I would greatly appreciate it. Bob Sylvester From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 12:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA13489 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 12:32:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA08253; Mon, 5 May 1997 12:32:18 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA67086; Mon, 5 May 1997 12:25:27 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA46890 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 12:23:48 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA06207 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 12:23:45 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 05 May 97 21:23:29 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA03210; Mon, 5 May 1997 20:45:05 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 20:45:00 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: eXport files In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robert Sylvester X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 5 May 1997, Robert Sylvester wrote: >I am having difficulty setting up my Pine account to download >eXported files to my computer. If someone can help me with this >problem I would greatly appreciate it. Ok, let's see... You probably mean upload from your account or download to your local system, not ftp'ing files you've exported to your remote home dir, right? Then this should help: -------------8<--------- snip here -----8<------------------ download-command This option affects the behavior of the Export command. It specifies a Unix program name, and any necessary command line arguments, that Pine can use to transfer the exported message to your personal computer's disk. download-command-prefix This option is used in conjunction with the Download-command option. It defines text to be written to the terminal emulator (via standard output) immediately prior to starting the download command. This is useful for integrated serial line file transfer agents that permit command passing (e.g., Kermit's APC method). -------------8<--------- snip here -----8<------------------ If that doesn't help, come back with the tech-spex of your two systems, that might make helping you a little easier .-) Later, Robin P.S. Yes, this stuff is from the FAQ >:-> - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM24qrme8+XvDOeNZAQGfGgf/SIWNfH54pJU/C2qsTy9vkjZwhu3DZ/MG UAXfQP9ETLz5utMcXfUBOQ7GDsTHW25guYN5vJDt2jaL1KZLLmqgW+0KW9jYzQNB 8eIwVZdntc08DCFd4ybAcUJna9r5VLaxS/6klJM7o9B0ejhlWJl/bpZ5NZNHDYMt AvByYELARqfnGWWnnmJtuTZV7e/8d/P/Mm/64WfqBiSQH3wNT8GMjpdCfjYMMOzL EkDuNOR9znJXvzwKweRFV2oodtyAQvZdyYgb2qtzaVE8i3ds98n6X/F0t0lEnPq7 65CEtE+j1U6RTx9HrwkM0cE60+SUz8is9j4v2Vs1PlN1Zfc5vvjqXA== =UgvJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:22:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA18655 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA04461; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:22:51 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA56432; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:17:13 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA36486 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:16:05 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA18542 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:16:03 -0700 Received: from garfield.wsc.mass.edu (garfield.wsc.mass.edu [134.241.56.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA04324 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:16:01 -0700 Received: from garfield.wsc.mass.edu (larry@localhost) by garfield.wsc.mass.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA31541; Mon, 5 May 1997 16:15:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705052015.QAA31541@garfield.wsc.mass.edu> Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 16:15:59 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Larry Griffith To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Configuring locking on Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: larry@garfield.wsc.mass.edu X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Pine experts, I run a network of DEC 3000's running DU v4.0. My users have had persistent problems with Pine, which frequently spends 10 minutes or more trying to write "Fcc". It appears that the problem has to do with file locking as I get many lock files created in a very short interval of time in affected user directories relative to "sent-mail" and "interrupted-mail" (the latter probably due to frustrated users). The user directories are NFS-distributed (this is a college); /var/spool/mail is NOT NFS-distributed. Call #1 to DEC Support (late February) revealed a patch for lockd in version 4.0 . I installed it; the problem persists and in fact is now getting worse. In desperation I called again; DEC Support suggested that pine and procmail (which was installed very recently) should have lockf locking enabled to handle NFS (I'm not an expert on file locking mechanisms and I wouldn't have trusted myself to choose one). procmail seems to be doing this anyways, but I reconfigured to force lockf: no help. For the life of me, I can't find any way to configure Pine to use lockf or indeed any particular locking mechanism. We are using Pine v3.96. Any suggestions? Am I barking up the wrong tree? Can Pine be made to use lockf? Help, my mail box was loaded with student complaints this morning! Larry ============================================================================ Larry Griffith Dept. of Computer & Info Science larry@garfield.wsc.mass.edu Westfield State College (413) 572-5294 Westfield, MA 01086 USA PGP public key available at: http://garfield.wsc.mass.edu/dcis/griffith.html ============================================================================ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA18709 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA09443; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:26:47 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA20938; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:21:29 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA05488 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:21:00 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA12223 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:20:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOUBn-00038fC; Mon, 5 May 97 13:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <336E4058.33D@news.alt.hacking> Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 13:17:28 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Hawthorn {¥} To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: pine/linux INBOX/OUTBOX copy References: <336A8242.4675@sade.com> <5kempc$prq$1@news.hal-pc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN root of all evil wrote: > > In alt.hacker Antony wrote: > : is > : any possibility to: > : * copy incoming mails and redirect this copies to an other eMail > : address (home-address), as a background task... > : * send the complete INBOX as one eMail/File to an other eMail > : address (home-address), eg. twice a day. > : (even if one is not logged on) > : Are there any programs who do this? Any hints, suggestions are very > : welcome!!! I'm new to Unix, but if you have access to the mail file. Rename the file on your server. Rename on target computer, FTP to yourself, rename back to mail. Would that not count as untracable EMAIL forwarding?? If the above worked. You could always cut out what you wanted and put the file back. Let me know if this works or not. ------------------------------------------------------------- I hack for the pleasure of expanding my mind, to test my-self against high paid, so called computer gurus. I actually make my living testing computer security products. What I am trying to say is that if I hack your program, it is not personal. It’s not malicious, I am just better than you. ;} Hawthorn {¥} ‘97 P.S. All you little eLiTe 15 YeAr OlD wHoLoGuNs. Better knock that stupid writing off before sending me anything or you won’t get a damn thing back from me. You can Contact me in the newsgroup ALT.HACKING SUBJECT: -- TO: HAWTHORN -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:45:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA22520 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:45:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA08096; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:45:37 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA02952; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:41:50 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA16826 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:41:23 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA04986 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:41:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOWNz-00038fC; Mon, 5 May 97 15:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 18:36:10 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paul O Bartlett To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine filter sorta? In-Reply-To: <5kkqd1$s3c$1@gamera.cbl.cees.edu> References: <5kkqd1$s3c$1@gamera.cbl.cees.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 5 May 1997, Fleet Teachout wrote: > In PINE, one can use the command(?) ;ttas folder> to sort incoming mail to a folder. Have you tried it? If not, why are you asking before trying it out? > Is there a way to run a file > with a number of these commands in it on activation of Pine? Not that I have ever heard of, but there may be things others know that I don't > If there is > a way, [...] The rest is a little academic. However, this seems like the long way around to filter incoming mail. You posted with tin, so I am presuming that you are talking about Pine running under a flavor of Un*x. In that case, there are specialized tools, such as procmail and filter, which will do just what you want without a lot of gyrations Pine may not even be able to perform. After all, sorting incoming mail is part of the mail delivery process, and Pine is not designed or intended to be part of that process. procmail and filter, however, are. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:16:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA24572 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:16:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA11077; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:16:46 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA43440; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:14:18 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA34860 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:13:02 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA28434 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:13:00 -0700 Received: from endeavor.flash.net (endeavor.flash.net [208.194.223.40]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA15942 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:12:57 -0700 Received: from donathan.flash.net (ipm2-72.flash.net [209.30.30.72]) by endeavor.flash.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA09345; Mon, 5 May 1997 20:08:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <336E8413.4290@flash.net> Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 20:06:27 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Franklin Donathan To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: uudecode MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: Donathan@flash.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01KIT (Win95; U) X-URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/95.06/msg00153.html X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear sir, I have recieved a message encoded. On this message it says I need to use uudecode. Could you please help. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA25458 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA16717; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:14:56 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA39074; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:12:41 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA43942 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:11:52 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA08822 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:11:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOZhY-00038gC; Mon, 5 May 97 19:10 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 10:06:52 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Hynek Med To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine and APOP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Will pine support APOP, or other system that doesn't send plaintext passwords and uses encryption? Hynek -- Hynek Med, xmedh02@manes.vse.cz From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:19:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA25401 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA11999; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:19:43 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA05595; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:17:21 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA31404 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:16:53 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA22473 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:16:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOZlG-00038fC; Mon, 5 May 97 19:13 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5kls46$2hi@due.unit.no> Date: 5 May 1997 23:56:54 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: FCC behaviour. References: <5klfqp$buu$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In article <5klfqp$buu$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>, wrote: > >But how to I get incoming mail from q230948 when I hit s to save >to go to John? >From the unix command line: cd ~/mail ln john q230948 to give the same file duplicate names. It works very well with my mailing list folders. A little extra noise in the folder listing, though. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA24843 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA12018; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:21:15 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA14660; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:17:50 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA31426 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:16:56 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA17275 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:16:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOZmB-00038gC; Mon, 5 May 97 19:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:25:33 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 1 May 1997, Sven Guckes wrote: > > Let Vi automatically wrap the lines for you! > Just set the "wrapmargin"! > > Example: > > :set wrapmargin=8 > > [ ... ] > > With the Vi clone "Vim" (Vi IMProved") you can set the maximum width with > > :set textwidth=72 Does anyone know if there is a Windows 95 vi or vi clone that has something analagous to pico's ^J to justify an already-written paragraph? I know that in Unix vi you can send a paragraph through fmt but I'm wondering how to do this type of thing in the Windows 95 world. Thanks much, Nancy -- / .-. / / \ .-. .-. / / \ / \ .-. _ .-. / \ / /Nancy McGough--Infinite Ink/---\---/-\---/---\http://www.ii.com/ \ / \ / `-' `-' \ / \ / \ / `-' `-' `-' `-' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA24526 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA12029; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:22:15 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA14719; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:18:15 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA39906 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:16:58 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA02793 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:16:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOZmy-00038hC; Mon, 5 May 97 19:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:50:45 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Edit subject on received mail? In-Reply-To: References: <5kg270$o5f$1@nnrp1.crl.com> <5khcdq$co7$1@nnrp1.crl.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The guidelines that people just gave should work for Berkeley format mail folders BUT there are many folder formats that include information about the size of each message. If your folder is in one of these formats then editing the subject will trash the folder (unless your new subject happens to be the same size as the old subject). Note that the PC-Pine folder format includes info on message size. Good luck, Nancy -- / .-. / / \ .-. .-. / / \ / \ .-. _ .-. / \ / /Nancy McGough--Infinite Ink/---\---/-\---/---\http://www.ii.com/ \ / \ / `-' `-' \ / \ / \ / `-' `-' `-' `-' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 22:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA27362 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 22:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA15010; Mon, 5 May 1997 22:52:44 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id WAA23652; Mon, 5 May 1997 22:50:10 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA54654 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 22:49:54 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id WAA00646 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 22:49:52 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 06 May 97 07:49:37 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id GAA31277; Tue, 6 May 1997 06:54:06 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 06:54:01 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: uudecode In-Reply-To: <336E8413.4290@flash.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Franklin Donathan X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 5 May 1997, Franklin Donathan wrote: > I have recieved a message encoded. On this message it says I >need to use uudecode. Could you please help. Sure. Quit using an outdated version of Netrape and Dos95 or write to one of their lists, then get yourself a cope of uudecode from yahoo , say uudecode , kick the file into a fitting application (.doc to Word or something), done. Later, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM265ame8+XvDOeNZAQGzDgf+NpgxFZh8mktaq2/cF80Fqt8pcvegKcUc 2B7PU2/4sIq4bvqH1mGRi/erb4v+smXXIGD2M9eaTc8Ot7oXZ3ZEk0K1pMAh3S62 2aT5fiOvfVMOBM+Si46mHwhNXrhCdIZfH8h+uP99Fj5QMbTAjqhJdbQxuZuW/OqM y0ZCVKn4KEhfuQ5B4CYHmxNxwGNdMwtjSbm1M986GQFrQ8VXlWzHcrVyTlFWVmoK 4Sj7OLUkVhyhBrQE3rWTm+QyXZOdUxVRB8B5DMf7HzeiFu2ztbq+s6jMn0VSL9B/ /8QZvrJc6mgm8/hH8WG9opunQiDGZ+moTP1H8Wuorv5fP7e6/cf5Xg== =VeZ0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 01:14:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA28445 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 01:14:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA21617; Tue, 6 May 1997 01:14:33 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA20122; Tue, 6 May 1997 01:08:12 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA20092 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 01:07:46 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA00105 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 01:07:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOfHD-00038fC; Tue, 6 May 97 01:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <336F6B62.F0621F7B@consonet.com> Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 10:33:22 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shai Peretz To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine/Pico for Irix 6.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Does antbody know of PINE/PICO binaries for Irix 6.2? Thanks, Shai. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA00288 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA27203; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:11:43 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA16190; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:05:08 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA02488 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:03:44 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA12757 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:03:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOlhy-00038fC; Tue, 6 May 97 07:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 22:16:19 +1000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: MELISSA CHURCH To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Recieving Mail Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I have recently logged onto a unix server at uni. It is running pine 3.93 under unix (ibm) and i am not recieving mail. I have tried sending mail to my account from my home address and it just isn't getting through. I can however send mail from pine. Does anyone have any ideas as to why this is happening. Thanx in advance. Mel From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:12:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA00538 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:12:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA22314; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:12:17 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA13278; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:04:25 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA56570 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:03:19 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA02621 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:03:16 -0700 Received: from oit.duke.edu (root@cicero.oit.duke.edu [152.3.202.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA26996 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:03:13 -0700 Received: from panther.oit.duke.edu (mario@panther.oit.duke.edu [152.3.202.185]) by oit.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.3.4) with ESMTP id LAA14029; Tue, 6 May 1997 11:03:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mario@localhost) by panther.oit.duke.edu (8.8.4/Duke-4.1) with SMTP id LAA09689; Tue, 6 May 1997 11:03:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 11:03:06 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: mario@oit.duke.edu Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Mario L. Gonzales" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Bug in Pine 3.96? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi folks -- Every night pine 3.96 dumps core at 00:45. I cannot figure out what is causing it -- Could my cron that cleans /tmp be causing the problem? mario@panther:/duac/home/mario> gdb -c core GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details. GDB 4.16 (sparc-sun-solaris2.5), Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc. Core was generated by `/duac/home/mario/bin/pine'. Program terminated with signal 6, Aborted. #0 0xef674340 in ?? () (gdb) I would do more debugging, but I am not a guru at gdb. My question really is -- who is sending the signal 6, Abort? pine itself? Anyway -- thanks. Mario --------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Systems Administration Group, O.I.T. phone://919.660.7037/ | Duke University, 412 North Building fax://919.660.7029/ | Durham, NC 27708 mailto:mario@oit.duke.edu | http://www.oit.duke.edu/~mario/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- FOR MY PGP PUBLIC KEY: "finger -m mario@acpub.duke.edu | pgp -fka" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA01466 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA22879; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:39:07 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA14954; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:32:08 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA49214 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:30:36 -0700 Received: from eagle.ais.net (rwilshe@eagle.ais.net [199.0.154.5]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA00834 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:30:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (rwilshe@localhost) by eagle.ais.net (8.8.5/AIS) with SMTP id KAA04018; Tue, 6 May 1997 10:29:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 10:29:02 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robert J. Wilshe" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Recieving Mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: MELISSA CHURCH X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Melissa: If you get this message :) the best place to start asking questions is with your school's help desk or system administrator. There are several things or reasons that could account for this, and as far as *we* can see, Pine is working fine. I'd ask them if everything is configured right on your system, if you're using the right address, and detail the problems you're having to them. That's probably your best bet to start off with. Good luck, \\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\ robert chicago illinois joseph u s a wilshe rwilshe @ ais.net //\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\// On Tue, 6 May 1997, MELISSA CHURCH wrote: > > Hi, > I have recently logged onto a unix server at uni. It is running pine > 3.93 under unix (ibm) and i am not recieving mail. I have tried sending > mail to my account from my home address and it just isn't getting through. > I can however send mail from pine. Does anyone have any ideas as to why > this is happening. > > Thanx in advance. > Mel > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:30:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA21941 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA29168; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:30:07 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id JAA19133; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:23:52 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA35198 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:23:27 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id JAA29012 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:23:23 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 06 May 97 18:23:07 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA32242; Tue, 6 May 1997 18:03:06 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 18:03:01 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Bug in Pine 3.96? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Mario L. Gonzales" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 6 May 1997, Mario L. Gonzales wrote: >Every night pine 3.96 dumps core at 00:45. I cannot figure out >what is causing it -- Voodoo? Hehehe... >Could my cron that cleans /tmp be causing the problem? Unless pine doesn't lock its files properly: no. ...however ... >:-> Pruning /tmp with a cron job might not be the best of ideas, anyway. Either do it manually, or do it on startup. Properly programmed apps clean their tmp files, anyway. Since it it's "your" cron job (i.e. you're the supervisor), you might as well consider using a local tmp file. Furthermore, you'd best use LSEW (low space early warning) in your cron job, thereby rendering the cron prune superfluous. After all, it really doesn't matter how big your /tmp dir is, as long as it doesn't affect the system performance. Amen, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM29WNme8+XvDOeNZAQGUkgf+O9PO+6+PM30YqlMsogrgkfW+FZTaKFmW All3fJ08eiEIbbkiShlfsCBWzJLOJkBoRXl0ycvqF4lM1tZE2tx5KEMGrmiJwJAg cJ0JUflcg7m/mT5iBz2dZS+Opte9Tq7hauq/zsPZSHCic4Di+iYXjcIgtLCVzIVq TS6+HAq7ml7puFobjvvOdtpzWNxF29mRXH2xCdEQe9Y/IuLBkEm69Ya/r167gEZN lng8yH4lqAHLxvr4005SFNcJsmF+pvh0mnDkIMkD8sAGh8vWDxQ2weyxwmjKMqDv dpDLV1imzda7yCoOs+SH3IVemAayVqPYR0Pyvd74Ij0IDleeSGUnGQ== =msY1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA07096 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA28455; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:25:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA00496; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:19:35 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA36444 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:17:40 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA26238 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:17:37 -0700 Received: from danta.qualcomm.com (danta.qualcomm.com [129.46.152.203]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA28291 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:17:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (svadakke@localhost) by danta.qualcomm.com (8.8.5/1.4/8.7.2/1.13) with SMTP id MAA20036 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 12:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Sameer Vadakke-Kuruppath To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re-opening INBOX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi: Is there any way to re-open the INBOX after another pine process was started? I understand that the default is for the Mailbox lock to be owned by the latest process. If that process no longer exists, can an earlier process regain the lock? I'm not sure if pine-info is a mailing list, hence please send replies to sameer@qualcomm.com. TIA Sameer From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA07606 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:37:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA04002; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:37:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA01670; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:31:23 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA51660 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:30:13 -0700 Received: from abaco.coastalnet.com (abaco.coastalnet.com [204.183.40.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA02485 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:30:03 -0700 Received: from pm-nb5-166.coastalnet.com (pm-nb5-166.coastalnet.com [204.183.41.166]) by abaco.coastalnet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA27090 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 15:28:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <336FB0BD.3C9F@coastalnet.com> Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 15:29:17 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe Young To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Sent-Mail problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; U) X-URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/current/msg00003.html X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I too am getting message upon entering pine asking if I want to move sent-mail to sent-mail.apr.save. Happens everytime I enter pine. Is this a bug rearing it's ugly head or normal? Do not remember it happening before. Any help would be appreciated. Thx Joe Young New Bern, NC From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA07469 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA04090; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:40:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA00236; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:34:16 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA50424 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:33:56 -0700 Received: from stl1.lcmsois.org (stl1.lcmsois.org [207.92.237.3]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA27876 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:33:55 -0700 Received: from wahlerlr.STLDOMAIN (207.92.237.114) by lcms.org (PMDF V5.0-7 #20818) id <01IIJWPLV2QO90NIAY@lcms.org>; Tue, 06 May 1997 14:33:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 14:33:42 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Larry Wahlers To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Won't add folders or write fcc MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Larry Wahlers X-X-Sender: wahlers@stl1.lcms.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN PC Pine-32 under NT Workstation 4.0, using PMDF IMAP server on VAX/VMS system, when sending mail, says it's writing fcc to NEWMAIL folder, but it doesn't ever get there! Also, when adding a new folder in the Folder List screen, it appears, but no message is inside. Previously, I remember that it would put the standard IMAP placeholder message there. Any ideas? Larry Wahlers Postmaster and email administrator The International Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:02:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA08129 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:02:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA04565; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:02:07 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA40144; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:56:25 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA37170 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:56:07 -0700 Received: from abaco.coastalnet.com (abaco.coastalnet.com [204.183.40.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA05775 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:55:52 -0700 Received: from localhost (joey@localhost) by abaco.coastalnet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA29448 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 15:54:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 15:54:37 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe Young To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Sent-Mail problem (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To answer one's own question may help other's in the case below. Found in the file .pinerc a setting concerning the pruning of the sent-mail and it was set to 97-4, so every time I entered pine it tried to save sent-mail in another location. Permissions on the .pinerc would not allow me, as a ordinary user to edit file. Make sure that the .pinerc file is owned by you so that you can enter setup and make necessary and usefull changes. Luckily having su I could correct error in permissions otherwise would have to contact my sysadm ..... Hope this helps anyone with same condition. Joe Young New Bern, NC ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 15:29:17 -0700 From: Joe Young To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Sent-Mail problem I too am getting message upon entering pine asking if I want to move sent-mail to sent-mail.apr.save. Happens everytime I enter pine. Is this a bug rearing it's ugly head or normal? Do not remember it happening before. Any help would be appreciated. Thx Joe Young New Bern, NC From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA09025 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:46:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA00341; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:46:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA04257; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:36:50 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA55242 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:36:22 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA04964 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:36:19 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA05348 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:36:16 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 06 May 97 22:36:01 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA00527 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 22:19:03 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 22:18:58 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: tab in folder-collections MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi there, Correct me if I'm wrong, but is there really no way to move through folder collections via the tab key? If so, is there any reason for that? I use a primitive means of checking whether new mail has arrived from certain lists (i.e. procmail them into an own folder-collection and delete afterwards to see if new mail has arrived in any of them), but the "feature" of jumping to the last unread message in that folder doesn't make moving there any easier .-) I'd be grateful if anyone could come up with a hint what to do. TIA, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** Lecturer: Who isn't in class today? Student: Moby Dick and George Washington. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM2+SM2e8+XvDOeNZAQFkgwgArU/Bzv/E05HRFm/pblAX1qKpbHhB2trg Uc0fW+pNi5MZqK3bEx913O5BOlw6QRr01lAzB+/dB9bfONDJWF16lVty7Tg4ubuB tVBulPKrbCBhwT8aoE/iwWM52IhQi94tRs8Z21F8Y9fmNgbEwBlRCSBfmofWMRUs sO6o0rcKx+rC9DtalH2lU+InQzTViHz6KJJEqzRyDRllfsug84l7ArkzoalacoRI 1ZBKBbkZE+TNhx6wj/tlKgDQtGJRWza+hfc4uiH92xmK190Ln2KOCyaciITE0d5z q8+67UcG81ZS4SrOvWszJLdu8RnyNm4EoC09q2rRS76la8ipgbDu4Q== =7JdR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:04:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA02768 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:04:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA00888; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:04:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA06508; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:57:59 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA38294 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:57:37 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA28994 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:57:36 -0700 Received: from elwood.pionet.net (ELWOOD.pionet.net [199.120.116.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA05843 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:57:33 -0700 Received: from default (s3_osceola.pionet.net [207.51.169.103]) by elwood.pionet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA22457 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:00:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199705062100.QAA22457@elwood.pionet.net> Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 16:00:20 -0000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "smokless" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: how to find a forwarding address for jason casazza who previously lived in woodbridge va MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA09898 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA06646; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:23:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA07658; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:18:14 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA44318 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:17:50 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA01530 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:17:46 -0700 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu (root@franc.ucdavis.edu [128.120.8.183]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA01248 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:17:43 -0700 Received: from hslpub7 by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.8.5/UCD3.8.9) id OAA21882; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:17:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <336FA1F5.1E10@ucdavis.edu> Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 14:26:13 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: HSSPUB7 To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: what;s up MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -- 's Bookmarks

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Sexy gorlfriend From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:46:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA09714 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:46:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA07166; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:46:22 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA08988; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:40:02 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA37114 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:39:43 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA03973 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:39:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOrts-00038fC; Tue, 6 May 97 14:35 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 14:30:21 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Kevin Eliuk To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Validating newsgroups In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 3 May 1997, Shay Cohen wrote: HI, You can turn this off in configuration. Just Whereis 'validate' in config :) >Hello, > > Whenever I try to compose an article in usenet, pine insists on >"validating newsgroups", a process which consumes time. > Can I avoid going thru that process, and have pine let me send the >article right away after asking for a compose? > > Please e-mail me if possible, as my newsserver is not very stable. > >Shay, >shiart@inter.net.il. > > > _______________________________________ |\ /| If I hadn't asked | \ kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net / | the questions I asked, | \ Kevin G. Eliuk / | I wouldn't be answering | /^\_________________________/^\ | the questions I'm answering. | / \ | |/--===### Powered By FreeBSD 2.2.1 \| | www.freebsd.org | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA12264 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA08813; Tue, 6 May 1997 15:59:38 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA12799; Tue, 6 May 1997 15:55:32 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA54346 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 15:55:04 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA25376 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 15:54:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOt53-00038fC; Tue, 6 May 97 15:51 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 15:26:45 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David T Ho To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Netscape ate my mail! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I usually read my mail with Pine. However, the other day, I accidentally clicked the mailbox icon in Netscape and my my >200 messages were read by Netscape. Is there any easy way I could get read those messages in Pine again? Thanks for any help. -Dave From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:21:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA12566 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA03991; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:21:37 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA13711; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:18:30 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA28868 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:18:05 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA27751 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:18:03 -0700 Received: from cariari.ucr.ac.cr (cariari.ucr.ac.cr [163.178.101.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA09209 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:17:57 -0700 Received: from localhost (borozco@localhost) by cariari.ucr.ac.cr (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id XAA42946 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 23:17:40 GMT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 17:17:40 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Julio Bejarano Orozco To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Sug (ID 2028X): In-Reply-To: <199705062306.QAA11943@groupfs.cac.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:43:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA14057 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA05580; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:43:36 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA18411; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:40:29 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA67154 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:40:09 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA13370 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:40:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOulB-00038fC; Tue, 6 May 97 17:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5klf4m$fpe@news1.radix.net> Date: 5 May 1997 20:15:18 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: xcitor@radix.net To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Disappointed User (No wonder the service is FREE!) References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In article , ftrim@Morgan.EDU ("Fayola C. Trim") writes: > To whom it may concern, > have to login twice, I also lost ALL my messages. On my first login this Somehow, I doubt that pine had anything to do with losing ALL your mail. Does the phrase "the loose nut behind the bolt" mean anything to you? Think about it. > I am regretting ever succumbing to this piece of rubbish. I should > have gone with my every instinct and supported the USPS by buying a stamp > in the first place. I am regretting your ever having used it, too. I hereby forbid you to never use the Internet again. Take all your computer equipment and throw it in the water. -- Before sending unsolicited e-mail to this account, please read the following: . Any such mail received will be subject to a download and archival fee of US$ 500 per message. Sending of e-mail denotes acceptance of these terms. PGP Fingerprint = 32 F9 EC F2 86 73 27 12 76 A7 0E 9D 0A F8 17 70 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:44:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA14137 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:44:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA05583; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:44:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA18193; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:40:44 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA67170 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:40:11 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA21246 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:40:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOulJ-00038gC; Tue, 6 May 97 17:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5klfqp$buu$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Date: 5 May 1997 20:27:05 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: sherwood@vega.math.ualberta.ca () To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: FCC behaviour. X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ok,if I have mail from q230948@host.onramp.com, I obviously want something easier to remember. Maybe John. Pine lets me do this. I can set up a nickname for john, and it will fill the ithe address with John's real address. And I can set it up so that any outgoing mail to John goes into FCC folder john. But how to I get incoming mail from q230948 when I hit s to save to go to John? -- Sherwood Botsford | email avatar@vega.math.ualberta.ca Sorcerers Apprentice | Office CAB 642B System Administrator | Tel: 403 492 5728 Trouble shooter | Fax: 403 492 6826 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 1997 04:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA18405 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 04:42:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA14266; Wed, 7 May 1997 04:42:38 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id EAA10242; Wed, 7 May 1997 04:39:50 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA51642 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 04:39:20 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA28170 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 04:39:09 -0700 Received: from ultra3.rz.uni-hohenheim.de (ultra3.RZ.Uni-Hohenheim.DE [144.41.13.52]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA14232 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 04:39:05 -0700 Received: from rs55.ws1.uni-hohenheim.de (rs55.ws1.Uni-Hohenheim.DE [144.41.249.15]) by ultra3.rz.uni-hohenheim.de (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id NAA25017 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 13:39:00 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 13:38:32 +0200 (MESZ) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Elisabeth Niggemeyer To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: How to stop a mail from a user, who repeats his mail since several , days MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: niggemey@rs55.ws1.uni-hohenheim.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am really unhappy to get a mail from s.b., who repeats his mail several times a day (automatically ?) . Is there any possibility to say to the system, that I don't want to get mails from certain persons? Kind regards Herzliche Gruesse --------------------------------------------------------------------- Elisabeth Niggemeyer Universitaet Hohenheim From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 1997 08:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA23390 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 08:29:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA17840; Wed, 7 May 1997 08:29:30 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA19127; Wed, 7 May 1997 08:22:38 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA54296 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 08:22:06 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA25389 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 08:22:04 -0700 Received: from deborah.buckscol.ac.uk (deborah.buckscol.ac.uk [192.149.238.11]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA22944 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 08:21:59 -0700 Received: (from yhodso01@localhost) by deborah.buckscol.ac.uk (8.7.1/8.7.1) id QAA00103; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:23:16 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 16:23:15 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Yvonne.Hodson" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Folder as a bulletin board MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: yhodso01@deborah X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN We are using Pine 3.91 on SunOS4.1.3 I am trying to set up a folder to be used as a bulletin board for all our staff to read. I have set up the message as a file named 1 in directory /home/var/spool/news/staff readonly by anyone, and I can read this successfully as an additional incoming folder, but obviously can't delete or eXpunge it, as it is read only, so I get it every pine session. When I precede the folder name with a * to indicate treat it as a bulletin board I get the message Can't open mailbox, no such bboard I have also tried to set this up as a local news collection. news-collections=*[] news-spool-dir=/home/var/spool/news I have a file /usr/lib/news/active which lists /home/var/spool/news/staff When I try to read the news with this setup, I get an empty list message, and have no lists to subscribe to. I have searched through the context-sensitive help, the technical guide, the Faq, etc., and can't find anything else to do. Please can anyone tell me what I have missed, or done wrong. Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 1997 11:10:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA25979 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 11:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA27268; Wed, 7 May 1997 11:10:22 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id LAA00222; Wed, 7 May 1997 11:03:08 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA65108 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 11:02:21 -0700 Received: from fierro.frsf.utn.edu.ar (gceresol@utnrsf.arcride.edu.ar [200.9.237.42]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA13769 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 11:01:14 -0700 Received: from localhost (gceresol@localhost) by fierro.frsf.utn.edu.ar (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA27351 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 15:07:28 -0300 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 15:07:28 -0300 (ARST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Gustavo Ceresoli To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: mails to Eudora MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Please, I would need to know if there is anyone who knows how to open the mails that are within the folders of the pine in Eudora (since it only picks the ones in the inbox and ignore the rest). Thanks a lot.k From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 1997 14:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA31019 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 14:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA27068; Wed, 7 May 1997 14:32:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA13036; Wed, 7 May 1997 14:26:12 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA47816 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 14:23:12 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA13531 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 14:23:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wPEAQ-00038gC; Wed, 7 May 97 14:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 08:10:10 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paul O Bartlett To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: line wrap in message viewer In-Reply-To: <5kotao$sht@insosf1.netins.net> References: <5kotao$sht@insosf1.netins.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 7 May 1997, Jim Schneider wrote: > I would like to find a way to stop Pine from breaking 80+ character lines > on display of the message. I could live with breaking the line if 81 or > more, but the best bet is to just show the first 80 and scroll right for > the rest. Then it would need to be a user option. I detest horizontal scrolling about as much as I detest the clods who write overlength lines in the first place. (A lot of them are probably using kiddy toys like Nut$crape and don't even realize what they're doing.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 1997 15:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA32124 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 15:12:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA03070; Wed, 7 May 1997 15:12:00 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA18973; Wed, 7 May 1997 15:07:47 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA38786 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 15:07:22 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA24683 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 15:07:20 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 08 May 97 00:07:04 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id TAA32654; Wed, 7 May 1997 19:22:19 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 19:22:15 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How to stop a mail from a user, who repeats his mail since several , days In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Elisabeth Niggemeyer X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 7 May 1997, Elisabeth Niggemeyer wrote: >I am really unhappy to get a mail from s.b., who repeats his mail several >times a day (automatically ?) . >Is there any possibility to say to the system, that I don't want to get >mails from certain persons? Three things to do. 1. Try to talk to that person. 2. Talk to his postmaster if that fails, so he can void the account. 3. Use a filtering system to get rid of the mail and, possibly, retaliate. A good system is procmail. Check Nancy McGough's filtering faq for further info. Later, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** What the world needs now is killfiles that actually kill. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM3C6SGe8+XvDOeNZAQExhQf+KP4ikRSKjKH0RaGZYxvEQFOswy/Am8yd 68UBB/luCJKxmm3whjuPdUUXnDl727GHZjmQ7bGY4X/FWVfUspzelkohSPHPltsW ZkitA4K5sdq0olEbZy8x9fn62Z2EqBe1sRfjYXIpk8LCuyRvsn5gh1pYxAzMimiS NfvU6pIsMtGMY6fCjAXfwkk3R4t4SSqfA9EQkWZbKWoLS7tEl76u7nfI//mWX760 rMQTf8WT1ye6gsgADGOuEEt5rL18Bj0+AEB9PmfokDYwpsTIDYsL4UltFwdp/boQ HIR+5agsk1GC09DHMN7mPAh7L32k50dKP2vaegs4OjysB3X38+KaGQ== =4GH5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:34:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA00823 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:34:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA29729; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:34:19 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA20816; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:28:53 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA43710 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:28:20 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA14446 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:28:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wPG5G-00038fC; Wed, 7 May 97 16:25 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 13:06:56 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paul Tomsic To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Configuration for News in pine help?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN When reading newsgrps in Pine, is it possible to configure it so that it will group replies into one area, such as 'tin' does? As it is currently, I can't seem to get it to do this. Thanks Paul Tomsic From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA28937 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:35:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA29770; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:35:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA20918; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:31:13 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA38944 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:30:49 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA27648 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:30:48 -0700 Received: from niuhep.physics.niu.edu (niuhep.physics.niu.edu [131.156.85.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA29617 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:30:45 -0700 Received: by niuhep.physics.niu.edu (MX V4.2 AXP) id 17; Wed, 07 May 1997 18:32:59 CST6CDT5,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 Message-Id: <009B3E9D.8D353801.17@niuhep.physics.niu.edu> Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 18:32:58 CST6CDT5,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: sirotenko@niuhep.physics.niu.edu To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: 8-bit mail, it's length and base64 encoding X-To: PINE-INFO@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN NIU, 7-MAY-1997 Hi, I'm sending 8-bit ASCII file (KOI-8 chatacters) with PINE 3.96 and do not want text to be encoded. I have all features like "8-bit .." enable and inclide ASCII text in a mail body using ^R command. Everything is ok for rather small messages, I do not have any encoding and everything is ok. But when I send rather large text, PINE automatically BASE64 encode it. Can I avaid such an encoding? Thanks. Vladimir From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA02040 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA06174; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:36:12 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA27496; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:31:39 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA40812 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:30:23 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA00319 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:30:21 -0700 Received: from mailhost.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (h141-206-15-5.NCR.COM [141.206.15.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA06057 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:30:15 -0700 Received: from hostsw4.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM by mailhost.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07255; Wed, 7 May 97 17:29:08 PDT Received: from localhost by hostsw4.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25564; Wed, 7 May 97 17:28:59 PDT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 17:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: Steven Feinholz Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steven Feinholz To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine with Microsoft Exchange Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: Steven Feinholz X-Sender: sf3@hostsw4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hopefully, someone will know the answer to the following problems: A bunch of us here at work are using Pine (v3.95) on SunOS 4.1.4. Other people here at work are using Microsoft Exchange for their email. When people on Microsoft Exchange send email to us Pine users, we get this WINMAIL.DAT uudecoded text at the bottom of each email. Also a server id is embedded in the email address in the "From:" field in the header. We Pine users cannot respond directly to these Microsoft Exchange users because the email bounces unless we remove the server id. For example, if I was a Microsoft Exchange user, my id would appear as follows to Pine users: sf3@po1.ElSegundoCa.NCR.COM ^^^ The "po1" is some sort of server id. Yet another group of people use Sun's "mailtool" for their email. Users of "mailtool" do not get the WINMAIL.DAT text at the bottom of their emails, nor do they get the server id in the header and they *can* respond directly to the email. Questions: 1) Is there a way to suppress the inclusion of the WINMAIL.DAT text at the bottom of the email? 2) Is there a reason why the server id is being embedded in the email address? 3) Is there a way to respond to Microsoft Exchange users without having to edit the email address everytime? Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!! ________________________________________________________________________ | Steven Feinholz | VOICEplus: 427-5945 NCR | Client Software | Phone: (310) 524-5945 Parallel | 100 N. Sepulveda Blvd. | FAX: (310) 524-5515 Systems | 15-169 | Email: sf3@ElSegundoCa.NCR.COM | El Segundo, Ca 90245 | Steven.Feinholz@ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM ________________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA01612 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA01321; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:42:56 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA27793; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:39:03 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA20528 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:38:36 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA01047 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:38:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wPHC5-00038gC; Wed, 7 May 97 17:36 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 14:16:01 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: mcc@gtegsc.com (Merton Campbell Crockett) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: PC-Pine Deletes Temporary File Before Spawning Viewer Application Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Under Windows95, PC-Pine will spawn a viewer application for an attachment if a MAILCAP file is defined. This seems to work correctly when the sample MAILCAP file is used and the attachment is MIME type, Application/msword. (Well, it works if you overlook the fact that Word for Windows 6.0 can't open a file in the IM-123456.xxx format used for temporary files.) If you add another MIME type such as Application/WordPerfect5.1, PC-Pine does decode the Base64 attachment. It creates the temporary file. It spawns the designated application but unfortunately deletes the file before the application can open the file. Is there any way to prevent this from happening? Application/MSWORD files are for some reason not deleted. Merton Campbell Crockett GTE Government Systems, ESD/IOO From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA02091 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA01335; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:43:18 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA27755; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:38:48 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA70932 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:38:32 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA21161 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:38:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wPHBq-00038fC; Wed, 7 May 97 17:36 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 13:54:23 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: mcc@gtegsc.com (Merton Campbell Crockett) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: PC-Pine Creates Temporary Files witn Long File Names Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On a Windows95 system, PC-Pine creates temporary files with long file names like IM-123456.xxx where xxx is the file extension defined for the MIME type. The principal problem with this is that older Windows 3.x applications that can run under Windows95 cannot open the temporary file. Is there a configuration option that forces PC-Pine to generate 8.3 file names that can be opened by all applications that can run under Windows95? Merton Campbell Crockett GTE Government Systems, ESD/IOO From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 1997 22:42:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA04814 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 22:42:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA05264; Wed, 7 May 1997 22:42:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id WAA05933; Wed, 7 May 1997 22:39:41 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA44814 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 22:39:19 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id WAA27062 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 22:39:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wPLsY-00038fC; Wed, 7 May 97 22:36 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <336E8397.2B9497B1@discordia.ch> Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 03:04:23 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jonathan Apfelkern To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: pine/linux INBOX/OUTBOX copy References: <336A8242.4675@sade.com> <5kempc$prq$1@news.hal-pc.org> <3369D417.748C@atmu.cs.siu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > root of all evil wrote: > > > > In alt.hacker Antony wrote: > > : is > > : any possibility to: > > : * copy incoming mails and redirect this copies to an other eMail > > : address (home-address), as a background task... > > : * send the complete INBOX as one eMail/File to an other eMail > > : address (home-address), eg. twice a day. > > : (even if one is not logged on) > > : Are there any programs who do this? Any hints, suggestions are very > > : welcome!!! Yup. Sendmail can do this. qmail can do it even better. All you need is a .qmail (with qmail) which contains /home/user mail@another.user I would omit the sending of the complete INBOX, but instead forward it. > root of all evil wrote: [snip] Shane Simmons wrote: > hey dipshit quit logging in as root! He logged in as tiburon, you know. Jonathan -- "Discordianism is not just a religion; it is a mental illness." -- Lord Omar Ravenhurst From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA00704 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA12010; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:09:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA15138; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:05:00 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA38096 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:04:43 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA08965 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:04:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wPO7P-00038fC; Thu, 8 May 97 01:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 13:38:11 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Bob Allan To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: print before sending in COMPOSE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello! A rookie's question. I would like sometimes to print my composition for proofreading or consultation before sending but there seems to be no command for this in PINE. Is it possible? Thanks in advance. Bob Allan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:11:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA05280 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:11:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA12044; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:11:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA15165; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:05:17 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA54488 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:04:45 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA21089 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:04:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wPO7P-00038gC; Thu, 8 May 97 01:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 15:37:01 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: taff@blue.bad.bris.ac.uk (Aled Treharne) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: E-mail paging in UK X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I don't know if this is the correct newsgroup, but does anyone know of a company in the UK, that I can get to page me when I send an e-mail there. I am sysadmin of a server, and a friend has set up his server to check if mine is down. If it goes down, then he is paged. However, he lives in America. I would like for his computer to e-mail a company that would page me here in the UK. I have a British Telecom pager. I would be very grateful if anyone could either give me some info, or point me to the correct place to post. Apologies in advance for cross-topic postings. TIA, -Aled Treharne Aled Treharne felix@royal.net "Big Bird meets Salvador Dali has been brought to you by the numbers L and ), and by the letter 3." For PGP Public key finger taff@blue.bad.bris.ac.uk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 03:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA07091 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 03:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA13537; Thu, 8 May 1997 03:35:45 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id DAA14494; Thu, 8 May 1997 03:32:28 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA43748 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 03:32:07 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA09983 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 03:32:06 -0700 Received: from hare.wmin.ac.uk (pp@hare.wmin.ac.uk [161.74.92.95]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA08460 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 03:32:03 -0700 Received: from badger.wmin.ac.uk (actually host badger-ether.wmin.ac.uk user gwasb@badger-ether.wmin.ac.uk) by hare.wmin.ac.uk with SMTP (MMTA) with ESMTP; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:30:38 +0100 Received: (gwasb@localhost) by badger.wmin.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA12191; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:30:36 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:30:36 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Arthur Dos Santos To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: HELP!!!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Can you help me? I want to send an E-Mail to someone but i don't want my name at the top of it. Is this possible? and if so how do you do it? Your help will be greatly appreciated. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 05:55:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA08470 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 05:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA10181; Thu, 8 May 1997 05:55:33 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id FAA17456; Thu, 8 May 1997 05:50:59 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA44924 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 05:50:43 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA20355 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 05:50:42 -0700 Received: from patan.eleinf.uv.es (patan.eleinf.uv.es [147.156.7.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA15146 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 05:50:24 -0700 Received: from localhost by patan.eleinf.uv.es with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA160399053; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:44:13 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 14:44:13 +0100 (WETDST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: MONICA ALMENDROS GARCIA To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Can I put a message in a disk floppy ? Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA07915 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA10613; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:32:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id GAA22732; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:25:56 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA47898 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:25:32 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id GAA14547 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:25:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wPT8G-00038iC; Thu, 8 May 97 06:21 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5ksjih$a5a$1@news.eecs.umich.edu> Date: 8 May 1997 13:13:53 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: ellis@gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN simmonmt@cs.purdue.edu (Matt Simmons) writes: >Robin S Socha writes: >> And there's this, too: >> >> 109448 Dec 20 1995 /usr/bin/pico* >> 172716 Aug 10 1995 /usr/bin/joe* (or jpico...) >> 315772 Oct 22 1996 /usr/bin/vim* >> 2804464 Aug 28 1996 /usr/X11R6/bin/xemacs* :-) >On what planet? >[simmonmt@phoenix]:1:14pm:~> ls -l /p/pine-3.95/../*/pine >... 2035712 Aug 7 1996 /p/pine-3.95/../hp9k7-hpux9/pine* >... 1585620 Jan 20 16:37 /p/pine-3.95/../i86pc-sos5/pine* >... 2484800 Aug 1 1996 /p/pine-3.95/../mips-irix5/pine* >... 2484800 Aug 1 1996 /p/pine-3.95/../mips-irix6/pine* >... 2039808 Aug 1 1996 /p/pine-3.95/../sun4-sos4/pine* >... 2456708 Aug 1 1996 /p/pine-3.95/../sun4-sos5/pine* What's your point concerning pine? That is not an editor. >(yes, they're all stripped) Are they all dynamically linked? (still beside the point) >[simmonmt@phoenix]:1:18pm:/p/p20/xemacs-19.15> ls -l */xemacs >-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4861952 Apr 3 13:26 hp9k7-hpux9/xemacs* >-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3172384 Apr 2 16:30 i86pc-sos5/xemacs* >-rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 5584088 Mar 27 19:57 mips-irix5/xemacs* >-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3953712 Apr 3 15:13 mips-irix6/xemacs* >-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4292608 Mar 27 18:41 sun4-sos4/xemacs* >-rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 3358164 Mar 27 21:55 sun4-sos5/xemacs* So you are comparing an MUA to an editor that includes a complete implementation of lisp. What does that have to do with the size of joe or pico or vi? On my SPARC running Solaris 2.5.1, here are the sizes of some editors: -r-xr-xr-x 5 bin bin 236328 May 3 1996 /bin/vi -rwxr-xr-x 5 root faculty 221008 Jul 11 1995 joe2.8 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root faculty 676312 Jul 6 1995 jove -rwxr-xr-x 1 root other 176536 Jul 6 1995 pico vi and joe are stripped, while jove and pico are not. >Given the extra functionality you get with xemacs (ignoring the 16M >lisp directory), I'd say they were pretty well matched. Neither joe nor jove requires any external resources. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA11816 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:48:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA18225; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:48:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA28041; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:41:22 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA33824 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:40:50 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA27060 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:40:49 -0700 Received: from ucas.ac.uk (ucas-firewall.ucas.ac.uk [194.80.160.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA18019 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:40:44 -0700 Received: from ucas-ws2.ac.uk ([194.80.165.32]) by ucas-firewall.ucas.ac.uk with SMTP id <15410>; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:45:00 +0000 Received: from localhost by ucas-ws2.ac.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA10890; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:39:15 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 15:39:14 +0000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David Delaney To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: PINE time MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: david@ucas-ws2 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Colleagues, Greetings from the UK. We've recently changed our clocks from GMT to BST. The time field on the 'Date:' line in PINE's outgoing EMAIL shows the time as one hour slow. Any suggestions, please ? We're running under UNIX on a SUN SPARC-2000. Cheers, David Delaney Phone: +44 (0)1242-544742 Systems Administrator Fax : +44 (0)1242-221622 UCAS EMAIL: d.delaney@ucas.ac.uk Fulton House Jessop Avenue, CHELTENHAM Glos. GL50 3SH, ENGLAND From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA14379 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA16103; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:38:20 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA65278; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:31:03 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA49048 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:29:32 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA00357 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:29:28 -0700 Received: from sophia.smith.edu (mflesher@sophia.smith.edu [131.229.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA15868 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:29:25 -0700 Received: from localhost (mflesher@localhost) by sophia.smith.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA10809 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:29:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 13:29:20 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mary Flesher To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: bug report MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To whom it may concern: While I was reading an old e-mail from Norway, a bug report flashed on the screen. I had no trouble with the message earlier. I plan to delete it. MFlesher@sophia.smith.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA14580 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA16132; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:38:56 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA48898; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:27:30 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA20434 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:26:16 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA16886 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:26:13 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 08 May 97 19:25:58 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA02491; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:28:04 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 13:27:59 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: print before sending in COMPOSE In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bob Allan X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 6 May 1997, Bob Allan wrote: >Hello! A rookie's question. I would like sometimes to print my >composition for proofreading or consultation before sending but there >seems to be no command for this in PINE. Is it possible? Thanks in >advance. Bob Allan Strangely enough, afaics, pico in pine doesn't support spell. *hmpf* It doesn't support piped commands either. To say the least, this suxx. Easiest (and imao best) thing to do is use an alternate editor. It can be set in M(ain), S(etup), C(onfig). emacs would be a nice choice. Otherwise, I'd suggest using an alternate editor that supports spellchecking. HTH :-/ Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM3G4wWe8+XvDOeNZAQFuMwf/WJILHGfFmMgtVIoDseTUuNrIFilUyjbD cmo6Yc/4hD0aIao1GEA8+nAfgBhomYJ74OoALTPCPaIvP/FLc2WT6qPTY7skK8d+ LtKEuiBokB46zrRRD6mXGOwcoez8PiuHssOuzhP/Uzg6gWvNkk6w17jAZF6UR2UB JCQ5MrKYwfhkkUdRWyL7pR7P5CrT1eoR9g1P7gv/kpGqDUm+S04x7TlfJjAR2vRp /7sOwBp1itr3OolrvEGVNUWVz108Wbhs2x/hssLtQBvmkJS1cZFY14O7UfN5MHKC Q6Y0Jtq25XonJi9aCygdukJ27kmQsUjCcSx8xJrzWzXmigTbP6pIuQ== =MCiu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA02736 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:41:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA16216; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:41:36 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA48504; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:34:03 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA49150 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:33:17 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA17587 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:33:15 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 08 May 97 19:32:59 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id TAA00646; Thu, 8 May 1997 19:30:17 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 19:30:16 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: MONICA ALMENDROS GARCIA X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 8 May 1997, MONICA ALMENDROS GARCIA wrote: > Can I put a message in a disk floppy ? Thanks. Quite easy: All you need is a felt pen, a sharp knife and a round sheet of paper, about 3.5' in diameter. Maybe a mousechord, too... A glass might come handy too... Apart from that: Check if you have mtools on your system. o E(xport) the message o mcopy a: done HTH, Robin -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA14944 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA22682; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:39:51 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id LAA15551; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:33:24 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA20526 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:32:05 -0700 Received: from sungod.ccs.yorku.ca (eUQUnSgmMJBRq1FHYRh7KcaXu4yX/kmx@sungod.ccs.yorku.ca [130.63.236.104]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA24187 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:32:02 -0700 Received: from turing.sci.yorku.ca (turing.sci.yorku.ca [130.63.144.76]) by sungod.ccs.yorku.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26449; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:32:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (allan@localhost) by turing.sci.yorku.ca (8.8.4/8.6.10) with SMTP id OAA12228; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:31:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 14:31:58 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Bob Allan Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Bob Allan To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: print before sending in COMPOSE In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robin S Socha X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Robin and Discussion Group Thanks for your quick response to my query. I have earlier to-day responded to Joe Young as follows: I mentioned this problem to a graduate student in our chemistry program who came up with a good, simple, solution that might be of interest. It is possible when in COMPOSE to POSTPONE the piece, go to MAIN, then to POSTPONED MESSAGES and finally to PRINT. It works fine! Thanks, Bob Allan. On Thu, 8 May 1997, Robin S Socha wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > On Tue, 6 May 1997, Bob Allan wrote: > > >Hello! A rookie's question. I would like sometimes to print my > >composition for proofreading or consultation before sending but there > >seems to be no command for this in PINE. Is it possible? Thanks in > >advance. Bob Allan > > Strangely enough, afaics, pico in pine doesn't support spell. *hmpf* It > doesn't support piped commands either. To say the least, this suxx. > > Easiest (and imao best) thing to do is use an alternate editor. It can be > set in M(ain), S(etup), C(onfig). emacs would be a nice choice. Otherwise, > I'd suggest using an alternate editor that supports spellchecking. > > HTH :-/ > > Robin > > - -- > Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn > To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" > GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ > PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.3i > Charset: noconv > > iQEVAwUBM3G4wWe8+XvDOeNZAQFuMwf/WJILHGfFmMgtVIoDseTUuNrIFilUyjbD > cmo6Yc/4hD0aIao1GEA8+nAfgBhomYJ74OoALTPCPaIvP/FLc2WT6qPTY7skK8d+ > LtKEuiBokB46zrRRD6mXGOwcoez8PiuHssOuzhP/Uzg6gWvNkk6w17jAZF6UR2UB > JCQ5MrKYwfhkkUdRWyL7pR7P5CrT1eoR9g1P7gv/kpGqDUm+S04x7TlfJjAR2vRp > /7sOwBp1itr3OolrvEGVNUWVz108Wbhs2x/hssLtQBvmkJS1cZFY14O7UfN5MHKC > Q6Y0Jtq25XonJi9aCygdukJ27kmQsUjCcSx8xJrzWzXmigTbP6pIuQ== > =MCiu > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA20420 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA21652; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:03:12 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA22706; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:55:01 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA26990 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:53:32 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA01103 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:52:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wPa7f-00038fC; Thu, 8 May 97 13:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <01bc5bea$ec46a960$9a1f9bce@madison> Date: 8 May 1997 20:02:32 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Dirk Herr-Hoyman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Spell checker not working X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN We having a problem with the spell check not working in Pine 3.96. I can run pico in standalone mode an turn on an alternative spell check, ispell, via the environment variable SPELL. Setting SPELL does not turn this on within Pine. I tried to change the Pine configuration variable spell to use ispell, but that just hung up, ispell was not invoked and I was stuck. This pine was built as a part of Debian Linux. Other than this issue, all seems to be fine and we have a number of users beating on it all the time. Any tips would be appreciated. -- Dirk Herr-Hoyman Journal of Extension From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA20156 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA22814; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:49:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA26039; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:44:17 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA56406 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:43:47 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA28874 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:43:44 -0700 Received: from cyberspc.mb.ca (root@terra.cyberspc.mb.ca [198.163.240.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA22687 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:43:42 -0700 Received: from planetx.cyberspc.mb.ca (gdeguzma@planetx.cyberspc.mb.ca [198.163.240.9]) by cyberspc.mb.ca (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA25529 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 21:42:43 GMT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 16:39:14 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: Mary Grace Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mary Grace To: "Pine Discussion Forum" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN HI!!! I need help.....I was wondering how i can send an attachment to someone if it's in drive a:\. Like if i wanted to send you guys a picture that was on a disk...jow could i do thta...i can't figure it out....HELP! ME From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA21066 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA23278; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:06:34 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA27862; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:02:50 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA36642 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:01:42 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA17330 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:01:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wPbBG-00038fC; Thu, 8 May 97 14:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 8 May 1997 12:28:00 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rick Lewis To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: message interrupts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN One of the features I really like about Pine is that if a call is interrupted, the message I'm composing is saved. ''' Or is it? Well, sometimes it is, and sometimes it isn't! I have Pine set to send postponed messages to the postponed-message folder, and deadletter quelled. Sometimes, upon re-entering the composer, the entire message is there, waiting for me to proceed. At other times, when connecting to Pine, it tells me there's an interrupted message, c will ask if I want to continue it (no won't erase it), but when I try to continue, i get an "empty folder" prompt. Is there any way I can setup Pine to: 1. be consistent; 2. always have the interrupted message available to continue. (I've also tried this with dead.letter on, but it seems to work the same). Any ideas? All advice from Pine experts welcome! -- Rick Lewis (Of all the signature lines you've ever read, this is the most recent one). From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:33:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA19346 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA29752; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:33:00 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA49714; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:28:49 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA38380 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:27:42 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA25602 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:27:38 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 09 May 97 01:27:23 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id BAA00627; Fri, 9 May 1997 01:03:31 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 01:03:23 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mary Grace X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 8 May 1997, Mary Grace wrote: > HI!!! I need help.....I was wondering how i can send an >attachment to someone if it's in drive a:\. Like if i wanted to send you >guys a picture that was on a disk...jow could i do thta...i can't figure >it out....HELP! 1. Put a decent subject on your mails. 2. State the OS you're working with. 3. State the version of pine you're working with. Apart from that (and I presume you're using pine on linux): 1. Easy: If you have mtool, say this in the shell: mcopy a: ~/ 2. A little trickier: mount /dev/fd0 /floppy #provided fd0 is you floppy and /floppy exists, otherwise say mkdir /floppy #or alternately try /mnt instead, then say: cp /floppy/ ~/ 3. Impossible: If you're not Ruth and don't have mtools, talk to your sysadmin. HTH, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM3JbvWe8+XvDOeNZAQGzvQgAh/ylOrYaOXSOiICm4Od9dD0wDQTk0+6F HZBsYZEgmuzhgbNi0ENK/3myktp4UlwiXL8kjZJupFI2wdQ8iV+XqlK6HBYx8/UG L1xEkerPSvOIKe69+nmcvi4WPt32FPA2GOsX9c5GZ8YpLUM431vMfAWb6+kqRpr2 /MPRscUC0fuVURoqcfi+YVblVia379lM9gGIh0xtT9JgxKiv1J0/gH6EqSsdQO5W wtEQSyTLoOmHIgHMC5y28iW8tHrS0FPM5d/Y0p+O3+0Oc4BvdUIyRDXwJJzCgUXU mGXrxqD0EmwCH1ibK7T2/+QLuRq9iazu8OCghn3M0Z2ZWn19rVmQYA== =jYrt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 17:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA19116 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 17:21:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA00969; Thu, 8 May 1997 17:21:43 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA12534; Thu, 8 May 1997 17:18:35 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA25482 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 17:18:11 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA14442 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 17:18:09 -0700 Received: from pusit.admu.edu.ph (pusit.admu.edu.ph [165.220.4.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA00914 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 17:17:57 -0700 Received: from localhost by pusit.admu.edu.ph; (5.65/1.1.8.2/05Dec96-1119AM) id AA06420; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:24:48 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 08:24:48 +0800 (GMT+0800) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Tenorio . Alfredo N." To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: re-sent In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN hope you will give more information about using pine. again thank you. On Fri, 9 May 1997, Tenorio . Alfredo N. wrote: > > what is the steps or procedures in making a talk with the other user in > the computer? would it needed more updating of a unit? > > thank you, > Lee > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 05:38:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA27562 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 05:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA10753; Fri, 9 May 1997 05:38:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id FAA29397; Fri, 9 May 1997 05:24:50 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA38782 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 05:23:52 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id FAA06761 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 05:23:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wPohG-00038fC; Fri, 9 May 97 05:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5ktrap$ibf$1@Nntp1.mcs.net> Date: 9 May 1997 00:32:25 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: JT To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Headers: How can I see them? References: <5k9trt$hqn$1@nnrp01.primenet.com> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > How do I tell Pine to display the headers on my messages? > When I get a spam mail [chain letter or something equally annoying] I have > to save the file, read it, then return to pine to activate the > flame-thrower. Is there a easier way? When you are looking at a message you can just hit "H" to toggle the full header mode. If this doesn't work then you may need to go into the configuration to enable that. From the Main menu, type "S" (setup), then "C" (config). Type "W" (wheris) and enter "head". This should take you to the "enable-full-header-command" where you can put in an "X" to enable it. Hit "E" to exit and "Y" to save and you should be done. "O" "K" ;) -jt From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 07:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA31633 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 07:41:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA07565; Fri, 9 May 1997 07:41:43 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA10681; Fri, 9 May 1997 07:34:42 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA49782 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 07:34:02 -0700 Received: from happy.com ([38.241.225.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA03441 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 07:33:59 -0700 Received: by gateway.happy.com id <18434>; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:28:02 -0400 Message-Id: <97May9.092802edt.18434@gateway.happy.com> Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 09:35:45 -0400 Reply-To: SandraB Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: SandraB To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Spell checker not working In-Reply-To: <01bc5bea$ec46a960$9a1f9bce@madison> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Dirk Herr-Hoyman X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Did you try putting in the full path to ispell in your pine configuration? For example: From the Main menu, do S (setup) C (Config). At the setting "Speller" you may need to put in something like: speller = /usr/local/bin/ispell Your full path may vary! Hope that helps. Sandra ************************************************************************ Sandra Brust sandrab@happy.com Happy Harry's, Inc. (302) 366-0335 ext. 224 People often find it easier to be result of the past than a cause of the future. On Thu, 8 May 1997, Dirk Herr-Hoyman wrote: > > We having a problem with the spell check not working in Pine 3.96. > > I can run pico in standalone mode an turn on an alternative spell check, > ispell, via the environment variable SPELL. Setting SPELL does not turn > this on within Pine. > > I tried to change the Pine configuration variable spell to use ispell, but > that just hung up, ispell was not invoked and I was stuck. > > This pine was built as a part of Debian Linux. Other than this issue, all > seems to be fine and we have a number of users beating on it all the time. > > Any tips would be appreciated. > -- > Dirk Herr-Hoyman > Journal of Extension From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA32465 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA12983; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:11:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA12105; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:01:59 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA52076 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:01:31 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA05680 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:01:28 -0700 Received: from inter.net.co (root@olafo.inter.net.co [206.49.32.17]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA12752 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:01:10 -0700 Received: from acceso60.inter.net.co (acceso60.inter.net.co [207.49.84.124]) by inter.net.co (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA01733 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 10:03:38 -0500 Received: by acceso60.inter.net.co with Microsoft Mail id <01BC5C5F.AB4E1180@acceso60.inter.net.co>; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:59:22 -0500 Message-Id: <01BC5C5F.AB4E1180@acceso60.inter.net.co> Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 09:50:05 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: German Augusto Cuervo Barrera To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Problem testing pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-To: "'pine-info@cac.washington.edu'" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I speak spanish. I speak and write bad english, but i read english = better. I have a problem when send messages. I have AIX 4.2 in spanish, = and pine 3.96. When I type Control X to send message pine display = "Sending mail | 0% |" and doesn't send message. AIX has a = process waiting " sendmail : servidor user@local". Can you help me ! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA31923 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA13123; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:17:00 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA50814; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:08:56 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA54702 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:07:54 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA17748 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:07:53 -0700 Received: from clgrps05.agt.net (reg.local.sympatico.ca [198.161.156.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA12888 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:07:49 -0700 Received: from type-rite ([204.209.206.106]) by mail.telusplanet.net with SMTP id <268041-8300>; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:07:07 -0600 Message-Id: <33733DB1.A30@telusplanet.net> Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 09:07:29 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Valued Memory Lane Customer To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: WordPerfect 6.0 Merge Files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E-KIT (Win95; I) X-URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/95.04/msg00431.html X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have recently loaded Windows 95 and have still been working in DOS for my WordPerfect Files, I tried to merge my files and nothing happens, any suggestions. It appears to do something but nothing comes on the document. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA00644 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA08655; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:28:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA13337; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:19:48 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA08432 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:19:15 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA18424 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:19:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wPrP3-00038fC; Fri, 9 May 97 08:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 9 May 1997 13:11:18 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: recognizing if an article was posted to a newsgroup References: <5kv41h$f9t@kensie.dorsai.org> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN soma@smtp.dorsai.org (*selah*): > Anyone know if there's a way to set pine so that it will recognize > or notify whether a newsgroup reply was posted publicly or not? No. When I addressed this problem to a developer asking for a notification I got this answer: Quoting myself: > And still there is no indication the body of the text sent by that > tells me whether this response has been posted or not. Will this > change with Pine-4? Quoting developer: If you mean an automatic addition of text to that effect, no. If you see both a Newsgroup header and To: filled in, you can already tell, however, unless a news/mail gateway subverts that. So we will have to live with Pine not giving us info about "mail or post". If only Pine would include an X-Mailer or X-Newsreader to identify itself! Then you could add whatever to your favourite mailer and let it say "this was sent with Pine as a MAILER" or even "this was posted with PINE, too". Well, that's my top wish for Pine-4. That's why it is in the wishlist I keep: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/pine/#wishlist Sven -- Sven Guckes guckes@math.fu-berlin.de [960301] | Latest version: Pine-3.96 PINE Info Pages: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/pine/ PINE Home Page : http://www.washington.edu/pine/ PINE Email List: Pine Information From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 14:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA08416 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 14:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA21421; Fri, 9 May 1997 14:10:00 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA04761; Fri, 9 May 1997 14:05:46 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA46612 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 14:05:21 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA15072 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 14:05:19 -0700 Received: from veena.cc.uregina.ca (VEENA.CC.UREGINA.CA [142.3.100.19]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA16670 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 14:04:38 -0700 Received: from meena.cc.uregina.ca by meena.cc.uregina.ca (PMDF V5.1-7 #20153) id <01IIO4D8GTIO9LV9GX@meena.cc.uregina.ca> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 9 May 1997 14:55:25 CST Message-Id: Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 14:55:25 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: signature-file = Heather Hodgson To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: possible bug MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Recently my pc started acting up. The color is gone and I'm having to reprogram my printer every time I want to print something. Might this be a bug? Sinerely, Heather P.S. If so, how can I tell? Heather Hodgson SIFC English Department University of Regina email: hodgsonh@meena.cc.uregina.ca phone: (306) 779-6246 or (306) 565-0147 :) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:14:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA10079 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA18236; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:13:55 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA08250; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:10:11 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA17792 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:09:43 -0700 Received: from spnode04.nerdc.ufl.edu (spnode04.nerdc.ufl.edu [128.227.174.4]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA20974 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:09:41 -0700 Received: from maverick.nerdc.ufl.edu (david@maverick.nerdc.ufl.edu [128.227.212.24]) by spnode04.nerdc.ufl.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA32966 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:09:39 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 18:09:30 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: David Nessl Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David Nessl To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: bug report: pine cpu-loops waiting on filter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: david@maverick.nerdc.ufl.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Given the pine display filter config _BEGINNING("-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED")_ /home/david/pine-filter-bug and the shell program pine-filter-bug which contains the two lines #!/bin/sh head -1 Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA11483 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA24981; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:45:20 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA11841; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:42:15 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA44242 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:41:42 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA28911 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:41:39 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 10 May 97 01:41:24 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA17149; Sat, 10 May 1997 00:24:08 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 00:24:01 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: possible bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: signature-file = Heather Hodgson X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 9 May 1997, signature-file = Heather Hodgson wrote: > Recently my pc started acting up. The color is gone and I'm having > to reprogram my printer every time I want to print something. Might > this be a bug? > Sinerely, Heather > P.S. If so, how can I tell? Excuse me, Heather, but this is probably the sweetest and most innocent thing I've ever heard :-) Apart from that, there's nothing much to say. Without physical contact with your hardware, there's not telling what's wrong. Talk to your local help desk, or, if you're talking about a pc at home, talk to your local hardware salesman. Cheers, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM3OkA2e8+XvDOeNZAQFZHgf+ICxkaNPUWTfisXV1SNAPIzmiGpFxAzDv vdn1Eze5G/VCfm2tV0oMQOhs/zxg46cyCFO/DH5AxOQmvqbA2ClU3Rc1pViqhK7v EFZxHMbMqLV7DSi5XzdO4X1dsPI8B95HEkVJIaXTjuQZwVluaB4J62/m4eLI0jyt x/4Fv6OehxHIUvIQSg/AxMp5r0s+7xmfOZ+HfziIHo6vzWZv0oJdq7zPSx4kR6eg ufq5jOVG0hD75qxA4MTdQOMr1QUHvqY2hPN6atgOmNxlX0rOygn09R1uSsBkehHA QvLSnP8LRPqirMGJQyGa1HUTYWfbv3nEDjs82hl0YS86Jk3ZzwOt2g== =+aM1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA04110 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA25778; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:24:56 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA13757; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:22:29 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA28894 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:22:13 -0700 Received: from yakko.chicks.net (chicks@yakko.chicks.net [205.166.143.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA01922 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:22:11 -0700 Received: from localhost (chicks@localhost) by yakko.chicks.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA32760; Fri, 9 May 1997 20:22:06 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 20:22:06 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Christopher Hicks To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: possible bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robin S Socha X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 10 May 1997, Robin S Socha wrote: > On Fri, 9 May 1997, Heather Hodgson wrote: > > > Recently my pc started acting up. The color is gone and I'm having > > to reprogram my printer every time I want to print something. Might > > this be a bug? > > Excuse me, Heather, but this is probably the sweetest and most innocent > thing I've ever heard :-) Sweet, sure. But I'm wondering how she "reprograms" her printer. :-) > Apart from that, there's nothing much to say. Without physical contact > with your hardware, there's not telling what's wrong. Talk to your local > help desk, or, if you're talking about a pc at home, talk to your local > hardware salesman. Most areas have 'consultants' that will do house calls if need-be. Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to buy Microsoft products. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA04150 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:28:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA21224; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:28:50 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA07543; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:25:56 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA40372 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:25:33 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA12013 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:25:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wPzxR-00038gC; Fri, 9 May 97 17:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 19:09:23 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paul O Bartlett To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Q: no filter mechanisme for pine?! In-Reply-To: References: <5k2755$ccp$1@elna.ethz.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 9 May 1997, Hans-Joachim Gurt wrote: > On 1 May 1997, Sven Guckes wrote: > > [...] > > Mail filters are supposed to be independent from mail user agents. > > ok - for mail, procmail works fine. > But for news, I havn't seen anything independent yet. [...] Because you mention procmail, I am assuming you are using some sort of Un*x system. Therefore, for general interest, I will repeat the post I made some time ago about a kludge for using killfiles _ahead_ of starting Pine to read newsgroups. = = = = = start reposted message (slightly amended) = = = = = Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 14:04:29 -0500 >From: Paul O Bartlett Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Subject: Re: Kill Files On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, Nico Hailey wrote: : > But you can have a delivery program like procmail or slocal do it for you. : > That's what I do. : : For me procmail only filters mail, how do you get it to filter news? : a previous post on this thread sugested trnkill for news... Procmail does not filter news. It only deals with mail. I was the one who suggested running trnkill before reading news with Pine. It is a short Un*x script, and I will append it below my signature. There are several aspects that are necessary to know about using it. 1) Obviously, it only works on Un*x systems. 2) trn must be installed on your system and in your $PATH. 3) You must have killfiles. That is a small subject in itself which I won't go into here, although they are not too difficult to set up for basic operations. man trn can supply some information. 4) There is one minor glitch in the interface with Pine. Suppose at the moment, the highest-numbered message on your system for newsgroup soc.culture.junk.trash is 12345. It just so happens that that article meets a killfile criterion, so trnkill updates your .newsrc to mark 12345 as read. Now you are going from newsgroup to newsgroup in Pine with the key. If the next group you tab to is soc.culture.junk.trash, Pine sees that the highest-numbered article in the group right now is the same as the highest-numbered article marked as read in .newsrc, so it skips the whole newsgroup. Pine does not notice that there are some intermediate numbers which have not been marked as read. However, you can manually go back to the folder display, highlight the group, and open it "by hand." This glitch is more a nuisance than a real bug. trnkill shell script: #!/bin/sh # trnkill - shell script to apply trn KILL files in the background # 14 Mar 89 created for rn by Jim Olsen # 10 Sep 93 modified for trn 3 (or 2) by Wayne Davison # 16 Nov 94 complete rewrite; via e-mail from Chin Huang # # Options: -d debug mode -- you see all gory action as it happens. # # Visit all newsgroups (if trn asks about anything else, just say no) export TRNINIT TRNMACRO RNMACRO TRNINIT='-q -s -T -t -x +X' TRNMACRO=/tmp/trnkill$$ # support for trn 2.x RNMACRO=$TRNMACRO trap 'rm -f $TRNMACRO; exit' 1 2 3 15 cat >$TRNMACRO <<'EOF' z %(%m=[nf]?.q^J:n)^(z^) ^m ^(z^) ^j ^(z^) EOF if test X$1 = X-d; then echo "z" | trn else echo "z" | trn >/dev/null 2>&1 fi rm -f $TRNMACRO exit 0 Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA12621 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA21267; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:32:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA14163; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:29:56 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA45550 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:29:42 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA01570 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:29:41 -0700 Received: from cyberspc.mb.ca (root@terra.cyberspc.mb.ca [198.163.240.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA25857 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:29:38 -0700 Received: from planetx.cyberspc.mb.ca (lanzay@planetx.cyberspc.mb.ca [198.163.240.9]) by cyberspc.mb.ca (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA20989 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 00:29:01 GMT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 19:25:11 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michelle Seranno To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: help! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN whenever i try to forward or send mail...i get up to 100% completion..but then i get a disk quota exceeded...ive erased files..but i still don't know what's wrong..HELP From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA12978 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA26588; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:23:51 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA15590; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:20:59 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA42700 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:20:41 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA15356 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:20:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQ0oJ-00038gC; Fri, 9 May 97 18:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 08:34:14 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paul O Bartlett To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: recognizing if an article was posted to a newsgroup In-Reply-To: <5kv41h$f9t@kensie.dorsai.org> References: <5kv41h$f9t@kensie.dorsai.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 9 May 1997, *selah* wrote: > We've had a problem with articles that people send to us in reply to our > posts in newsgroups. Pine doesn't recognize whether the reply was > posted to the newsgroup or was a private reply that wasn't publicly > posted. Pine itself has no concept of "public" or "private" replies. Just incoming emails and newsgroup postings. Public and private largely depend on the medium of transmission employed by the sender, which Pine has no control over. See reply after third paragraph. (Of course, in email there can be encryption for privacy, but that's a different matter.) > This has caused problems in the past when people sent us a reply that > they wanted to remain private and we thought it had been posted publicly > because pine asked if we wanted to post to the newsgroup. It is possible for a sender to transmit a message as an email and in the same process send it to a newsgroup. If an incoming email also has a newsgroup header, Pine can detect that and query you. It is up to you to decide whether you want your secondary reply to go out by email, by the newsgroup, or both. Pine is just passively reporting on what is presented to it. It is the sender on the other end who controls things for the message you receive, not Pine on your end. > Anyone know if there's a way to set pine so that it will recognize or > notify whether a newsgroup reply was posted publicly or not? This seems a little confused to me. If a reply (technically called a followup) is posted to a newsgroup at all, then almost by definition it is public, whatever the sender's intentions may have been. Private replies should go by email. It is really up to the sender to get the difference straight, not Pine, which is passive in thic case on the receiving end. Once again, Pine has no concept of "public" or "private." In situations like this, a little attention, intelligence, and knowing how things work go a long way. Before sending a reply, ALWAYS CHECK THE HEADERS. Even experienced users have tripped over their own feet by not checking the headers closely enough. No matter how good software is, at some point some things are up to the user. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA13382 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA22290; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:53:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA17174; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:51:07 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA48574 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:50:43 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA14556 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:50:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQ1GC-00038gC; Fri, 9 May 97 18:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <55itk5.nda.ln@pug1.SprocketShop.com> Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 16:55:49 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Kenneth P. Turvey" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Spell checker not working References: <01bc5bea$ec46a960$9a1f9bce@madison> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dirk Herr-Hoyman wrote: : We having a problem with the spell check not working in Pine 3.96. : I can run pico in stand alone mode an turn on an alternative spell check, : ispell, via the environment variable SPELL. Setting SPELL does not turn : this on within Pine. : I tried to change the Pine configuration variable spell to use ispell, but : that just hung up, ispell was not invoked and I was stuck. : This pine was built as a part of Debian Linux. Other than this issue, all : seems to be fine and we have a number of users beating on it all the time. : Any tips would be appreciated. I don't remember if this is in the FAQ or where, but Ispell doesn't work well with pine. (Has this been fixed yet? Is it going to be?) In order to use Ispell you need to set it up as an alternate editor. Then you would invoke it with ^_. Good luck. -- Kenneth P. Turvey Finger my account for PGP key info. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. -- Thomas Jefferson From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA08731 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA22410; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:04:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA17649; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:01:04 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA50850 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:00:50 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA07505 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:00:49 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 10 May 97 04:00:34 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id DAA18641; Sat, 10 May 1997 03:42:58 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 03:42:52 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: possible bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Christopher Hicks X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 9 May 1997, Christopher Hicks wrote: >On Sat, 10 May 1997, Robin S Socha wrote: >> On Fri, 9 May 1997, Heather Hodgson wrote: >> > Recently my pc started acting up. The color is gone and I'm >> > having to reprogram my printer every time I want to print >> > something. Might this be a bug? >> Excuse me, Heather, but this is probably the sweetest and most innocent >> thing I've ever heard :-) >Sweet, sure. But I'm wondering how she "reprograms" her printer. :-) Reinstall System XY? >> Apart from that, there's nothing much to say. Without physical contact >> with your hardware, there's not telling what's wrong. Talk to your >> local help desk, or, if you're talking about a pc at home, talk to your >> local hardware salesman. >Most areas have 'consultants' that will do house calls if need-be. What's a "house call"? You get to pay $500 /h for the repair, but the sex is free? BTW, Heather is using an Apple dinosaur, the second most pathetic of all computers (well, there's NT running on Alphas...), so that buries all hope of actully helping. Nice weekend and stuff >:-> Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** Linux... because a PC is a terrible thing to waste. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM3PSnme8+XvDOeNZAQFjuQgAilAqg6RWY84DcMzRBGPNzJ5PBelsgf6A BvVxTS+p7rOg4P2bMWcgWixmqO1uPpzXLODH3wJ1Pi9jAYz7e+QAQzklX0LEhOUq Z/tbqj4D3RFkxclEvmBhmozqANSQ2qXEZbW7HgijsgP0zDO0+gwkElkiuAKPFIC6 mvVYS9D919Hqxm3J4JOB5ZXAafo/wCYjw3nKgAxreDHqSdzyi8jFTg82vqzyQ5pD BZLIJhCSOo38frP9leo5z0E6NCclvfIA21DDf6TS6hB7kTYA8OQ6MYO70okJ8gCv u36S1cn7X7uFm5TfTq2eQDnIKyCWRtnbzlQNYoj6cwM9vPI0mszYaA== =yWWO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:10:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA12582 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:10:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA27144; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:10:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA18059; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:07:51 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA50738 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:07:37 -0700 Received: from yakko.chicks.net (chicks@yakko.chicks.net [205.166.143.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA15262 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:07:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (chicks@localhost) by yakko.chicks.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA00643; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:07:31 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 22:07:31 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Christopher Hicks To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: possible bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robin S Socha X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 10 May 1997, Robin S Socha wrote: > What's a "house call"? You get to pay $500 /h for the repair, but the > sex is free? Sex? There's sex involved? I'll book a flight, now. The $500 will cover the plane fare. Seriously, techies with basic PC knowledge will often work for $25/hour to help users out. If you can find a decent consultant its usually cheaper than dealing with computer stores and a lot less trouble. > BTW, Heather is using an Apple dinosaur, the second most pathetic of all > computers (well, there's NT running on Alphas...), so that buries all > hope of actully helping. An apple dinosaur... I guess that an Apple II. Wow. But anyway, I thought NT on a MIPS was worse. The Alpha actually has enough power that the high end alpha's running NT can almost do as much as a 386 running linux. > Nice weekend and stuff >:-> Weekend? I've got SO much to do. Some month I'll have a weekend again. > Linux... because a PC is a terrible thing to waste. Yes! Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to buy Microsoft products. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:25:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA14865 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA29376; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:25:36 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id WAA16666; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:23:30 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA44172 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:23:18 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA15743 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:23:17 -0700 Received: from bom2.vsnl.net.in (bom2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA29356 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:23:13 -0700 Received: from 202.54.29.173 ([202.54.29.173]) by bom2.vsnl.net.in (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA11004 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:54:12 +0530 (IST) Message-Id: <199705100524.KAA11004@bom2.vsnl.net.in> Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 10:54:12 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: shivam@bom2.vsnl.net.in To: "Pine Discussion Forum" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Pls. give us more infomation on Pine. Thanks / Mahesh Doshi. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA15122 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA29707; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:59:22 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id WAA17387; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:56:32 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA51496 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:56:21 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id WAA18518 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:56:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQ57o-00038gC; Fri, 9 May 97 22:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 20:21:48 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "H.Brey" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Deferred news postings with pine ?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, is there any chance to tell pine to keep the newspostings just like it did it when the smpt - server value isn't set ?? I mean to keep the postings until the connection will be established and the 'sendmail -q' (I know this isn't a nice way to deliver mail but it works) command is started ? Is there a general chance to write several articles offline and deliver them (up to now I only use a PPP line that's why) the same way I deliver mail at the moment ?? Thank you. Heiko BTW: Please could you send me a mail too - I didn't always read this newsgroup - cu --- eMail: CTHUGA@sl.netzservice.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:51:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA09846 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA03976; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:51:43 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id EAA29840; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:48:32 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA34878 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:47:07 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id EAA26629 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:47:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQAbA-00038gC; Sat, 10 May 97 04:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 8 May 1997 20:07:32 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: bug report References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN mflesher@sophia.smith.edu (Mary Flesher): > To whom it may concern: While I was reading an old e-mail from Norway, a bug > report flashed on the screen. I had no trouble with the message earlier. I > plan to delete it. To whom it may concern: While I was reading an post from smith.edu today, a stupid sentence flashed on my screen. I had no trouble with smith.edu earlier. I plan to killfile it. Sven -- "You mean, this isn't alt.flame?" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA17544 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:52:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA03985; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:52:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id EAA22694; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:50:05 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA34886 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:47:09 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id EAA08517 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:47:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQAbB-00038jC; Sat, 10 May 97 04:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 8 May 1997 20:03:47 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: print before sending in COMPOSE References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN allan@turing.sci.yorku.ca (Bob Allan): > Dear Robin and Discussion Group uh-oh... > I have earlier to-day responded to Joe Young as follows: I mentioned this > problem to a graduate student in our chemistry program who came up with a > good, simple, solution that might be of interest. It is possible when in > COMPOSE to POSTPONE the piece, go to MAIN, then to POSTPONED MESSAGES and > finally to PRINT. It works fine! You could alternally use a better editor or the program "screen" (which allows to switch between programs on the terminal) and simply start whatever program in another window. http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/screen/ Right now one "window" runs my shell (zsh), another has my editor (vim), one more has my newsreader (slrn) and in another I run my mailer (mutt). And if I should need a printout of some file then I switch to my shell and let "a2ps" do some magic on the file and hand it over to "lpr". :-) Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 09:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA20074 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 09:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA07337; Sat, 10 May 1997 09:57:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id JAA07629; Sat, 10 May 1997 09:53:57 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA70978 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 09:53:14 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA19419 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 09:53:12 -0700 Received: from bom2.vsnl.net.in (bom2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA07282 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 09:53:08 -0700 Received: from localhost (sultan@localhost) by bom2.vsnl.net.in (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA03364 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:24:09 +0530 (IST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 22:24:08 +0530 (GMT+5:30) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Sultanallys Solutions Ltd.(Demo A/C)" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN As soon as the message composed exceeds two lines, there is "disk quota exceeded" message at the bottom of the screen and the message cannot be sent. Please help at the earliest. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA09427 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA07411; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:04:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA00337; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:00:44 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA40600 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:00:14 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA19757 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:00:10 -0700 Received: from titan.mad.servicom.es (titan.mad.servicom.es [194.106.0.133]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA02652 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:00:06 -0700 Received: from sonia by titan.mad.servicom.es (8.6.12/FI-3.3) Sat, 10 May 1997 19:05:03 +0200 Message-Id: <3374A94E.20E1@mad.servicom.es> Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 18:58:54 +0200 Reply-To: sonia.pi@mad.servicom.es Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: sonia.pi.@mad.servicom.es To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: A question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [es] (Win95; I) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've started receiving mail containing two parts. The first part is usually a few lines of ASCII text. The second part is about 2.9KB long and PINE 3.91 identifies it as application/MS-TNEF. The only thing I can do with the second part is save it to a file but it is made as an html file,so when i tried to open it from my one of the browsers i´ve got(netscape 3.01 and Explorer 3.02)it shows me extrange text... . I asked someone who sent me such a message what he was doing,and he answered me that he was using Internet exchange and after I warned him about this application/ms tnef which appared in each e-mail it he told me:it must be happening that the exchange is not going well(?),and he was going to change the e-mail application client.He didn't indicate he had done anything different when sending the mail without the attachment. So, what is the MS-TNEF attachment? Why is it called an application? What causes it to be sent? Is it necessary? If not, how can it be avoided? -- Sonia Pi Corrales sonia.pi@mad.servicom.es "http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/4118" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:26:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA20960 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA07646; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:26:00 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA08602; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:23:25 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA54780 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:22:50 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA11551 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:22:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQFmn-00038gC; Sat, 10 May 97 10:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5l1jk4$1ds$4@aggedor.rmit.edu.au> Date: 10 May 1997 10:45:24 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: rudat@minyos.its.rmit.EDU.AU (Martin Ming Rudat) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: print before sending in COMPOSE References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Robin S Socha (uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de) wrote: : Strangely enough, afaics, pico in pine doesn't support spell. *hmpf* It : doesn't support piped commands either. To say the least, this suxx. pico seeps to support spell on the school's general access system, at least is says is does, but I don't think that the computer does, for some very odd reason. -- visit my web-sites at: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/1509 http://minyos.its.rmit.edu.au/~rudat email me at: martin@whoever.com rudat@minyos.its.rmit.edu.au From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 13:52:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA19593 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 13:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA09841; Sat, 10 May 1997 13:52:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA06753; Sat, 10 May 1997 13:48:49 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA37986 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 13:48:19 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA17096 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 13:48:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQJ07-00038gC; Sat, 10 May 97 13:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 21:58:51 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Hans-Joachim Gurt To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Q: no filter mechanisme for pine?! In-Reply-To: References: <5k2755$ccp$1@elna.ethz.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 1 May 1997, Sven Guckes wrote: > pobart@access.digex.net (Paul O Bartlett): > > On 28 Apr 1997 mustun@sam.math.ethz.ch wrote: > > > is it true, that in pine does not exist any filter > > > mechanisme like in elm? > > That is correct. At the present time, Pine does not do any mail or > > newsgroup filtering. > Mail filters are supposed to be independent from mail user agents. ok - for mail, procmail works fine. But for news, I havn't seen anything independent yet. > My wish for Pine-4.0: > Add a page of help that explains a "filter" in a few words and with > pointers to procmail in order to eliminate these kinds of FAQs right away! and explain how to filter/killfile while reading news with pine ? By(t)e, HaJo Gurt From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA12778 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:54:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA05788; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:54:43 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA20158; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:50:59 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA38312 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:50:41 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA22763 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:50:40 -0700 Received: from balu.sch.bme.hu (1073745584@balu.sch.bme.hu [152.66.148.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA05747 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:50:36 -0700 Received: from localhost by balu.sch.bme.hu (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/03May97-1037PM) id AA12796; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:50:05 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 23:50:05 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: Kiss Istvan Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Kiss Istvan To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi! I've a simple question: How can I set 'Reply to address' in my message? Thank for your help! Istvan ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Istvan Kiss E-mail:xjenci@balu.sch.bme.hu Technical University of Budapest Schonherz Zoltan Dormitory Irinyi Str. 42. room 1602. http://www.sch.bme.hu/~xjenci Budapest, HUNGARY ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA16794 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA06628; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:17:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA10347; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:14:27 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA28758 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:13:39 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA05267 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:13:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQLJR-00038gC; Sat, 10 May 97 16:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 14:29:50 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Kenneth P. Turvey" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: How do get pine to show longer headers? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN When composing mail, I would like pine to show longer headers so that I can see the complete names of some custom headers I have set up. Is this possible? How is it done? Thanks, -- Kenneth P. Turvey Finger my account for PGP key info. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a man and a dog. -- Mark Twain From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA23210 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA11874; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:46:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA11078; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:44:03 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA40548 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:43:41 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA02563 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:43:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQLl9-00038gC; Sat, 10 May 97 16:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 10 May 1997 20:53:50 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca (Sylvain Robitaille) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Untitled References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 10 May 1997 09:54:58 -0700, Sultanallys Solutions Ltd.(Demo A/C) wrote: >As soon as the message composed exceeds two lines, there is "disk quota >exceeded" message at the bottom of the screen and the message cannot be >sent. Please help at the earliest. Take this up with your provider. In simple terms it means you're over quota. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvain Robitaille sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca http://alcor.concordia.ca/~sp_robi I've already got a female to worry about. Her name is the Enterprise. -- Kirk, "The Corbomite Maneuver", stardate 1514.0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 17:22:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA23539 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 17:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA07387; Sat, 10 May 1997 17:22:17 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA21546; Sat, 10 May 1997 17:19:24 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA28916 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 17:18:44 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA28494 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 17:18:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQML0-00038gC; Sat, 10 May 97 17:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5l326n$kri$1@cronkite.cisco.com> Date: 11 May 1997 00:00:23 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Abhay Roy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Annoying messages References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Carlos Nunes-Ueno wrote: : As a long time user of pine, I'm familiar with messages that pine spits : out, like these: : Move current "sent-mail" to "sent-mail-apr-1997"? : and : Move current "read-messages" to "read-messages-apr-1997"? I don't think I know the right answer, but you might want to try playing with the setting last-time-prune-questioned=97.5 to something high. So assuming that is year.month it asked you last, I would try setting it to say 98.1 (98 Jan or something ...). which also reveals that it has the Millenium Bug !! Anybody hearing ? -Roy- #=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-# | Abhay Kumar Roy, Software Engineer | | Cisco Systems Inc. Phone : (408) 527 2028 (o) | | "Never forget that your weapon is made by the lowest bidder" | #=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-# From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id UAA24879 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id UAA09510; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:42:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id UAA17240; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:39:18 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id UAA46612 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:38:54 -0700 Received: from giasbma.vsnl.net.in (giasbma.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id UAA06640 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:38:50 -0700 Received: from giasbma.vsnl.net.in by giasbma.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA00314; Sun, 11 May 1997 09:11:54 +0530 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970511035335.007a4a10@giasbma.vsnl.net.in> Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 03:53:35 +0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shirish Kalele To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Enriched Text Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Sender: shirishk@giasbma.vsnl.net.in X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi! We use Pine 3.93 on our UNIX network and I was wondering if Pine can send enriched text msgs. And if so, how does one compose such a msg? I know that Pine 3.93 can interpret enriched text because it shows the text brighter and the underlined text underlined and so on.. Anybody got a clue? Shirish Kalele Bombay, India. http://members.tripod.com/~shirish_kalele/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 21:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA24543 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 21:04:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA09735; Sat, 10 May 1997 21:04:15 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id UAA17771; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:59:35 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id UAA49240 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:59:16 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id UAA03804 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:59:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQPjZ-00038gC; Sat, 10 May 97 20:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5l32gt$kri$2@cronkite.cisco.com> Date: 11 May 1997 00:05:49 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Abhay Roy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Difference between LCC and BCC? References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I use it all the time. I think it just puts the list name on the To line. So what everyone sees is in fact a non-reply'able expression. I strongly support LCC option. Harry Slaughter wrote: : I think you should continue as you are. I tried using lcc, which is : supposed to fill out the "To" line for you, and it put the first : address on the mail list on the to line and confused all recipients. I : never figured out how to fix this. Now I mail to myself and include : everyone on the bcc line. : On Thu, 1 May 1997, Michael Pollak wrote: : > : > I've been sending lists using BCC for a long time now, and it works just : > fine -- so long as I put something in the to line (an appropriate alias : > with my address), every one the mail, but not the list of addresses. : > : > Does the new "lcc:" improve on this procedure in any way? All comments : > appreciated. : > : > Michael : > __________________________________________________________________________ : > Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 21:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA25037 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 21:07:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA14900; Sat, 10 May 1997 21:07:12 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id VAA17884; Sat, 10 May 1997 21:04:40 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA50842 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 21:04:17 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id VAA04016 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 21:04:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQPrD-00038gC; Sat, 10 May 97 21:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5l1k3s$1ds$5@aggedor.rmit.edu.au> Date: 10 May 1997 10:53:48 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: rudat@minyos.its.rmit.EDU.AU (Martin Ming Rudat) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: character-set on the fly References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN How do you log-in, if, like me, you access through terminal emulation software, there is no reason AFAIK that you couldn't create a macro there for typing all those key-strokes, and use one of the alt-(PC), cmd-(MAC) keys for that sequence. -- visit my web-sites at: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/1509 http://minyos.its.rmit.edu.au/~rudat email me at: martin@whoever.com rudat@minyos.its.rmit.edu.au From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA25660 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:37:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA15933; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:37:33 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id WAA19577; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:33:41 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA42608 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:33:14 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA15349 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:33:12 -0700 Received: from seas.smu.edu (root@seas.smu.edu [129.119.3.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA10691 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:33:10 -0700 Received: by seas.smu.edu (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.0 #29.12) id ; Sun, 11 May 97 00:33 CDT Received: by seas.smu.edu (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.0 #29.11) id ; Sun, 11 May 97 00:32 CDT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 00:32:55 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Baris Tuncer To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Attacment MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I have a question. I want to attach a file to my e-mails. But the same file is going to be attached to all e-mails. Is there a way to attach it by default? Otherwise I have to choose "To files" option and select the file each time. Thanks, Baris --------------------------------------- Y. Baris Tuncer Graduate Student Department of Electrical Engineering Southern Methodist University SMU Box 753075 Dallas, TX 75275-3075 Phone : (214) 768-6738 http://www.seas.smu/~btuncer --------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA25988 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA11255; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:33:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA20957; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:29:56 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA26346 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:29:36 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA21710 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:29:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQS5d-00038gC; Sat, 10 May 97 23:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 06:14:05 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: crom@localhost.localdomain (Dana Booth) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: A question References: <3374A94E.20E1@mad.servicom.es> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN sonia.pi.@mad.servicom.es wrote: : I've started receiving mail containing two parts. The first part is : usually a few lines of ASCII text. The second part is about 2.9KB : long and PINE 3.91 identifies it as application/MS-TNEF. The only : So, what is the MS-TNEF attachment? Why is it called an application? : What causes it to be sent? Is it necessary? If not, how can it be : avoided? Just today, I was farting around with M$ 'outlook express', the mail client that comes with new version of Internet Explorer. I sent myself a piece of mail, and retrieved it using AK-Mail, another win95 mail client. To my surprise, right under my test message text there appeared some html tags with the same message. I did it again, but this time picked up the mail with Netscape (version 4.0 pr#4), and the html tags did not appear, only the test message. Netscape mail, though, is html aware, so I came to the conclusion that M$'s mail utils are sending html mail, but with plain text as a default. For non-html aware clients, such as Pine (and my AK-Mail), I suppose that M$ is inserting a boundary between the plain text and the html enabled mail text. Anyway, after you save the attachment, have you looked at it with just a plain old file viewer? Since you're using Pine, you must have Pilot, just load it up there and see if it's the same message between html tags. -- ---------------------------- Dana Booth ---------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA26083 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA11311; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:38:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA28965; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:34:50 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA05992 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:34:37 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA17293 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:34:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQS8U-00038jC; Sat, 10 May 97 23:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <33718dd1.1204965@news.toplink.net> Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 08:45:42 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: baiti@herrenberg.netsurf.de (Friedemann Baitinger) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: What's this: 'DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA' ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN recently I noticed the following mail in my inbox for the first time: | Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 18:11:39 +0200 (MET DST) | From: Mail System Internal Data | Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA | | This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not | a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. | If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created | with the data reset to initial values. Can anybody shed some light on this? Who put it in the inbox, is it something sendmail 8.8.5 (I upgraded recently) does or does it belong to PINE? I don't want this message in my inbox. If it needs to be there, it should at least hide itself so that it doesn't confuse the MUA. -- Friedemann Baitinger baiti@herrenberg.netsurf.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:53:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA26191 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:53:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA16665; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:53:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA29314; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:50:00 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA26272 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:49:41 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA13502 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:49:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQSPW-00038gC; Sat, 10 May 97 23:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <33712872.41060172@news.community.net> Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 01:17:18 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: billfox@community.net To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: "No options screen yet" ? X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Why, when I enter Setup, then select Options, do I get only the message "No options screen yet" ? I've checked .pinerc, saw nothing that seemed relative to this... Can anyone give me a pointer here?? I'm a Pine newbie . Thanks, Bill From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 May 1997 01:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA26584 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 01:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA12198; Sun, 11 May 1997 01:02:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA01645; Sun, 11 May 1997 01:00:18 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA40846 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 00:59:51 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id AAA11793 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 00:59:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQTXO-00038gC; Sun, 11 May 97 00:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 17:51:54 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paul O Bartlett To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How do get pine to show longer headers? In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 10 May 1997, Kenneth P. Turvey wrote: > When composing mail, I would like pine to show longer headers so that > I can see the complete names of some custom headers I have set up. Is > this possible? How is it done? When all else fails, have you read the instructions before inquiring? I would suggest looking in the configuration for something that seems to deal with headers, as well as all the online help available both for each configuration item and for Pine as a whole (from the Main Menu). Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA27962 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA18669; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:03:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id DAA02806; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:00:56 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA20170 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:00:10 -0700 Received: from shivax.cac.washington.edu (shivax.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.4]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA26356 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:00:08 -0700 Received: (from skramer@localhost) by shivax.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) id DAA28177 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:00:07 -0700 Message-Id: <199705111000.DAA28177@shivax.cac.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 03:00:07 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: pine-robot@docserver.cac.washington.edu To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: WHERE TO FIND INFORMATION ABOUT PINE X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is being sent to this mailing list weekly in order to aid readers in finding information about Pine. Before sending questions to the mailing list -- which is mirrored in the newsgroup comp.mail.pine -- please consult these resources: The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive help. Additional information, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, Questions & Answers, where to obtain the Pine software, what tools are available to perform tasks that Pine itself does not, and more, can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form. - The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[] The messages from this mailing list/newsgroup are archived. These archives can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ (includes a searchable index of all archived messages, and information on how to subscribe to this mailing list) - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/pine-info/. - From within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[] If you have a question about Pine, chances are it has been asked before and you can find the answer either through the searchable index of past messages, or among the "Questions & Answers" at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/ or ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/QandA.txt If you need personal assistance with using or configuring Pine, contact the technical support staff or computer help desk of your Internet Service Provider, school, university, employer, ... -- whichever organization provided you with the email account on which you are using, or planning on using, Pine. Because system functions and configuration can vary from site to site, they are best qualified to assist you. (Due to the large number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington cannot provide individual support services to Pine users at other organizations.) Sun May 11 03:00:06 PDT 1997 ----------------------------------- Pine development and support team University of Washington Computing & Communications ----------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA28084 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA18883; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:22:12 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id DAA25349; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:20:28 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA17826 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:20:10 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id DAA26703 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:20:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQVjS-00038gC; Sun, 11 May 97 03:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 11:12:08 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Clemens Oertel To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Question In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 10 May 1997, Kiss Istvan wrote: > I've a simple question: How can I set 'Reply to address' in my message? Hi there, just go in your pine.conf or .pinerc, find the entry which says 'customized-hdrs', and enter Reply-To: Someone Somebody or whatever. TTYL Clemens When posted in a newsgroup, please reply via pm as well. Thanx. This message derives from the Linux machine of Clemens Oertel, Tuebingen From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 May 1997 05:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA28660 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 05:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA15082; Sun, 11 May 1997 05:02:12 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id FAA26342; Sun, 11 May 1997 05:00:39 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA67208 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 05:00:23 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id FAA24786 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 05:00:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQXE2-00038gC; Sun, 11 May 97 04:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 10:27:17 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paul O Bartlett To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: HELP!!!!! In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 8 May 1997, Arthur Dos Santos wrote: > Can you help me? I want to send an E-Mail to someone but i don't want my > name at the top of it. Is this possible? and if so how do you do it? Your > help will be greatly appreciated. If the header on your post is any indication, you are using an old and obsolete version of Pine, so old that I don't even know whether this answer will apply to you. As Pine comes out of the box, no, it cannot do what you want. You can change the domain name portion of your address, but not the userid. However, you may set whatever personal name you want. At the same time, modern versions of Pine may be compiled by a system administrator to allow changing the From: line entirely. This is a special option which many installations avoid deliberately. Still -- and I am not certain about this -- it is conceivable that somebody with enough expertise could divine your email address from the message envelope. P.S. People would appreciate it if next time you would use a more descriptive subject on your message than just "help." Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 May 1997 06:17:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA17189 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 06:17:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA15860; Sun, 11 May 1997 06:17:24 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id GAA27514; Sun, 11 May 1997 06:15:40 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA19532 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 06:15:16 -0700 Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (root@jefferson.patriot.net [206.151.9.249]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA22738 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 06:15:14 -0700 Received: from adams.patriot.net (adams.patriot.net [206.151.9.7]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA31115; Sun, 11 May 1997 09:13:07 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 09:13:12 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: What's this: 'DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA' ? In-Reply-To: <33718dd1.1204965@news.toplink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Friedemann Baitinger X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 8 May 1997, Friedemann Baitinger wrote: [...] >Can anybody shed some light on this? Who put it in the inbox, is it >something sendmail 8.8.5 (I upgraded recently) does or does it belong >to PINE? I don't want this message in my inbox. If it needs to be >there, it should at least hide itself so that it doesn't confuse the >MUA. The message is put there by the University of Washington POP3 and IMAP servers, ipop3d and imapd. If you delete it, the POP3 and IMAP servers may serve messages you've already seen (but nothing bad will happen). Have you recently accessed your mailbox using Eudora, Netscape Navigator, or some other POP3 or IMAP client? If so, that's what resulted in the message. -- Steve Coile P a t r i o t N e t Systems Engineering scoile@patriot.net Patriot Computer Group (703) 277-7737 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 May 1997 08:53:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA28495 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 08:53:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA22808; Sun, 11 May 1997 08:53:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA08678; Sun, 11 May 1997 08:51:11 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA56354 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 08:50:57 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA23676 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 08:50:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQatg-00038jC; Sun, 11 May 97 08:50 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5ksrbo$ch4$1@alpha2.drake.edu> Date: 8 May 1997 15:26:48 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: ta2321s@alpha6.drake.edu (Terry Asher) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Deleting lots of messages X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Okay, this is an easy one. What is the command to delete say messages numbered from 1 to 400 without typing d for every single one of the 400 messages? Terry Asher ******************************************************************************* * UNIX Administrator & Web Master | Yours through INTERNET, * * Academic Computing & Media Services| Terry Asher * * Carnegie Hall - Drake University | UNIX-INTERNET* * 2620 Carpenter |For the listener who listens in the snow* * Des Moines, Iowa 50311 USA |and nothing himself, beholds the nothing* * (515) 271-3677 |that is not there and that is there. * * Did you know that NutraSweet contains strychnine? * * Web home page at http://www.drake.edu/public/ta2321s_home.html * ******************************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 May 1997 11:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA31166 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 11:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA19306; Sun, 11 May 1997 11:20:00 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id LAA05036; Sun, 11 May 1997 11:16:30 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA31234 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 11:16:13 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id LAA11922 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 11:16:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQd7e-00038jC; Sun, 11 May 97 11:13 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 12:48:11 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paul O Bartlett To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: recognizing if an article was posted to a newsgroup In-Reply-To: References: <5kv41h$f9t@kensie.dorsai.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 9 May 1997, Sven Guckes wrote: > pobart@access.digex.net (Paul O Bartlett): > > If a reply (technically called a followup) is posted to a newsgroup at all, > > then almost by definition it is public, whatever the sender's intentions may > > have been. Private replies should go by email. > > So when you receive an email with a message id that includes "pine" - > how do you know whether it was posted to a newsgroup, too? [...] From the message-id alone, I would surmise that you probably can't. I just made a check both with my memory and in a spot check of saved message folders. All newsgroup postings I could see or recall which I viewed with Pine have a Newsgroups: header, including Sven's, which he apparently posted with slrn. I'm not sure just what process puts this header in, but it is already there in some form or other before Pine ever gets into the picture as a newsreader. I run trn in a sort of batch mode to run killfiles, and I can and do use Newsgroups: as a kill criterion. So the Newsgroups: header is not an artifact of Pine reading the post. I have also received mail with both a To: header and a Newsgroups: header, but I presume one knows whether s/he is reading mail or news. I really am rather confused by the original poster's distinction between "private" and "public" in this arena. Pine knows of no such things. It only knows of mail and news, and news by definition is a public medium, whether or not Pine even existed. If you want private, go to encrypted email. To be honest, I fail even to see what the real issue is here. Is it a question of HOW TO USE PINE to get the results you want when replying? That's mostly a matter of paying attention to what you're doing, watching the headers, and reading the prompts. As it now is, Pine's design assumes you can take at least a minimum amount of responsibility for what you are doing. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 May 1997 12:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA31752 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 12:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA20193; Sun, 11 May 1997 12:44:42 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA07620; Sun, 11 May 1997 12:41:25 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA31410 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 12:41:02 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA06563 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 12:41:00 -0700 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (root@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA20168 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 12:40:58 -0700 Received: from czyborra.home.cs.tu-berlin.de (czyborra@anonymous225.ppp.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.225]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06374; Sun, 11 May 1997 21:30:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (czyborra@laptop [127.0.0.1]) by czyborra.home.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA00497; Sun, 11 May 1997 20:46:33 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 20:46:27 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Roman Czyborra To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How to download e-mail? In-Reply-To: <5ga5r2$bfs@news.asu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: czyborra@cs.tu-berlin.de X-To: Adam Myrow X-Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 14 Mar 1997, Adam Myrow wrote: > I am amazed that everybody forgot about the nifty feature in pine > 3.92 or later. It is called download command. If you go into > setup/config and see this option, you can set it to the name of a > file transfering program. So, if you wanted to be able to download > files straight from pine without exiting and you have zmodem, define > a "download command" of "sz -a." No period. Thanks. Wouldn't it be nice if Pine's context-sensitive help for download-command gave "sz -a" as an example or recommendation? > Now when you press e to export a message, you will be able to press > control-V to download straight to your PC. The only draw-back is > that the file gets a stupid temporary name. Does download-command-prefix help with this problem in Zmodem? > If you are really good, you can also define an upload command too. > If you are going to try that, bee sure and read the help text on it > because it isn't nearly as easy. Here I also missed a good example in the help text. The most intuitive choice "rz" doesn't seem to work because "rz" doesn't accept any filename arguments from the command line. However the "rx" for Xmodem receives does fine. With upload-command=rx you can easily press ^R(ead File) ^Y(upload) and then Alt-S(end) X(modem). From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA18004 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:09:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA20644; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:09:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA15565; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:05:03 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA56412 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:04:51 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA03421 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:04:48 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 11 May 97 22:04:33 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA00666; Sun, 11 May 1997 20:37:57 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 20:37:52 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Deleting lots of messages In-Reply-To: <5ksrbo$ch4$1@alpha2.drake.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Terry Asher X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sweetmorn, the 58th day of Discord in the YOLD 3163, Terry Asher wrote: > Okay, this is an easy one. What is the command to delete say >messages numbered from 1 to 400 without typing d for every single one >of the 400 messages? > Terry Asher >******************************************************************************* >* UNIX Administrator & Web Master | Yours through INTERNET, * >* Academic Computing & Media Services| Terry Asher * >* Carnegie Hall - Drake University | UNIX-INTERNET* >* 2620 Carpenter |For the listener who listens in the snow* >* Des Moines, Iowa 50311 USA |and nothing himself, beholds the nothing* >* (515) 271-3677 |that is not there and that is there. * >* Did you know that NutraSweet contains strychnine? * >* Web home page at http://www.drake.edu/public/ta2321s_home.html * >******************************************************************************* Yeah, that's an easy on alright... If you want to get rid of your mail rsn, just say this: for name in ~/Mail/[a-zA-Z]* ; do rm -rf $name ; done As a "UNIX Administrator & Web Master", you should be aware that (as someone pointed out some time ago), rm means "read mail" and the -rf option means "real fast". It is somewhat related to yamc, ie rtfm. But being a true professional, you knew that, oc. BTW, I *really* do like your signature. It's too long, too wide, and contains obviously counterfactual claims about your profession. What kind of "UNIX" are you administering --- Windows? Robin P.S. The answer is "aggregate commands", but being a "UNIX Administrator & Web Master", you were probably just joking in the first place... - -- Robin S. Socha --==| German Web Force |==-- Mission Critical Network Solutions Linux Administrator & Web Master -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM3YSAme8+XvDOeNZAQHBxQf+K2M68t/2QVF9x2XdIs8ryMN3dmFi3r8V mzl3FzD6KRAQgZ5gYFY2YH0saUqS87XPa7Qkjamsvz/jgjudc3BXYKH3lm2RIz3a 0b0GUVCTe4Fb3wWCr5Iq/p5dA2RbXxr3R5dyBeOkq7HmH/XCuwh6C+Y3lCQemIjq O7JdLtUisX4u7PloCHDbaXGknKaJSqRVFfn3jQ9H8CAjaalSDISThNjovaB6Kjf8 y3TVdpb5Nm//gPHGgPUOYpEmUsr8g1WOqWGhV9pK3gMKzTvv6quU+ACi0Ogd/aPK Cc1g+0KKlmKo9dsmGTZ6VGM+tOhH/W98Dg9gZRRsERmRpu2out8NqQ== =mMiN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 May 1997 17:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA01012 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 17:01:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA28501; Sun, 11 May 1997 17:01:47 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA15548; Sun, 11 May 1997 16:59:11 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA73664 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 16:58:45 -0700 Received: from w617gja1.gjames.com.au (w617gja1.gjames.com.au [203.0.159.5]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA13173 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 16:58:37 -0700 Received: from w617gja2.gjames.com.au by w617gja1.gjames.com.au with ESMTP ($Revision: 1.37.109.23 $/16.2) id AA099025112; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:58:33 +1000 Received: from w617gja2 (localhost) by w617gja2.gjames.com.au with SMTP (1.37.109.20/16.2) id AA133365110; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:58:30 +1000 Message-Id: <33765D25.2B15@gjames.com.au> Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 09:58:29 +1000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: graeme higgins To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: pine 3.96 on dgux 5.4R3.10MU04 on motorolla Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: graeme@gjames.com.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; HP-UX A.09.05 9000/715) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I had to remove all references to const to get it to build sucessfully. All is running okay EXCEPT I cannot delete mail. Receive the error "Syntax error in sequence", then "Message 1 marked for deletion", the cursor moves to the next line but the previous line is not marked for deletion and nor are they deleted on exit. Debug file provides the following:- IMAP 8:30 5/12 mm_log babble: Find of mailbox outside context: /users/graeme/.pine-interrupted-mail Can anyone shed light upon this problem? graeme graeme@gjames.com.au From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA04900 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA28763; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:07:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA06987; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:03:34 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA44470 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:03:05 -0700 Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA09953 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:03:02 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 12 May 1997 09:01:44 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA15554; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:02:53 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 09:02:53 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199705100524.KAA11004@bom2.vsnl.net.in> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: shivam@bom2.vsnl.net.in X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN 1. For general help about starting Pine see its manual page. Assuming you are on a UNIX system this is usually shown by giving the command: man pine 2. Use Pine's built-in help to learn about its many commands and features. The Ctrl/G command will always display these help screens (and "?" will also do so unless it could legitimately be entered as a part of the field your cursor is currently on). Pine's help is "context-sensitive"; it tells you about the thing you are currently doing/your cursor is on. So don't assume that what you first see is all that there is! 3. Check the Pine home page on the World-Wide Web: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/ Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On Sat, 10 May 1997 shivam@bom2.vsnl.net.in wrote: > Pls. give us more infomation on Pine. > > Thanks / Mahesh Doshi. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:08:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA03204 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA04208; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:08:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA07128; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:06:36 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA26556 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:06:18 -0700 Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA18567 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:06:15 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 12 May 1997 09:04:56 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA16331; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:06:04 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 09:06:04 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Sultanallys Solutions Ltd.(Demo A/C)" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The message "disk quota exceeded" is not being caused by Pine per se. Instead it is coming from your operating system, and Pine is merely passing the message on to you. In particular "disk quota exceeded" means that you have exceeded your disk quota(!). That is, you are using up too much disk space with files and/or messages. You need to release some space by deleting any files you no longer need. At some sites each message you keep in a folder may use up some of your disk quota too, so you may also need to delete any messages you no long want to keep. Contact your local help desk for advice. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On Sat, 10 May 1997, Sultanallys Solutions Ltd.(Demo A/C) wrote: > As soon as the message composed exceeds two lines, there is "disk quota > exceeded" message at the bottom of the screen and the message cannot be > sent. Please help at the earliest. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA04835 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA04254; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:12:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA00209; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:09:30 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA29326 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:09:16 -0700 Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA05067 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:09:13 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 12 May 1997 09:07:57 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA16893; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:09:03 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 09:09:02 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: "No options screen yet" ? In-Reply-To: <33712872.41060172@news.community.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: billfox@community.net X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN It would have been a BIG help if you had bothered to say if you are using (UNIX) Pine or PC-Pine, and what version number you are using (it's usually shown up in the top-left corner of the Pine display). The configuration screen was introduced in (I think) version 3.90 or 3.91 of Pine. It has been enhanced, expanded and developed in more recent versions. The current version of Pine is 3.96. It sounds as if you are using a really old version. Check, and if you are, then look at upgrading to the current version. This is available by anonymous ftp from ftp.cac.washington.edu. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On Thu, 8 May 1997 billfox@community.net wrote: > > Why, when I enter Setup, then select Options, do I get only the message "No > options screen yet" ? I've checked .pinerc, saw nothing that seemed relative to > this... > > Can anyone give me a pointer here?? I'm a Pine newbie . > > Thanks, > Bill > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA04148 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:16:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA04286; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:16:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA07330; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:13:45 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA19646 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:13:35 -0700 Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA18796 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:13:33 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 12 May 1997 09:12:01 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA17746; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:13:06 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 09:13:06 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Deleting lots of messages In-Reply-To: <5ksrbo$ch4$1@alpha2.drake.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Terry Asher X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN 0. Check your Setup Configuration screen and make sure that "enable-aggregate command-set" is selected. Whilst there, put your cursor on this option and read its built-in help by typing "?". 1. Return to the Index screen. 2. Use the ; (Select) command to choose some messages according to some criteria, following the menu at the bottom of the screen. For example: ; N 1-400 3. Apply a command to the selected messages. For example: A D Keep watching the command menu at the bottom of the screen as you work through these: that way you'll see what other selection criteria are available, and what other commands can be applied to selected messages. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On 8 May 1997, Terry Asher wrote: > Okay, this is an easy one. What is the command to delete say > messages numbered from 1 to 400 without typing d for every single one > of the 400 messages? > Terry Asher > ******************************************************************************* > * UNIX Administrator & Web Master | Yours through INTERNET, * > * Academic Computing & Media Services| Terry Asher * > * Carnegie Hall - Drake University | UNIX-INTERNET* > * 2620 Carpenter |For the listener who listens in the snow* > * Des Moines, Iowa 50311 USA |and nothing himself, beholds the nothing* > * (515) 271-3677 |that is not there and that is there. * > * Did you know that NutraSweet contains strychnine? * > * Web home page at http://www.drake.edu/public/ta2321s_home.html * > ******************************************************************************* > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA28574 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:03:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA08521; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:03:45 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id GAA14985; Mon, 12 May 1997 06:58:59 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA44794 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 06:58:40 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id GAA18410 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 06:58:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQvZ1-00038gC; Mon, 12 May 97 06:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5l03cs$de@news.blkbox.com> Date: 9 May 1997 21:02:20 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steven Whatley To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Don't expand newsgroups X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Actually I have a few pine questions. I've checked the FAQ. How do I get pine to not expand the newsgroup fold but still expand the mail folders? I'm using pine 3.90. What is the latest version of pine? 3.96? What was the release date? My ISP claims pine isn't being supported any more and is "old". Where is the official site to retrieve the latest version? I really like pine. I rather telnet to my ISP to use pine rather than using Endura (or Pegasus Mail) via POP3. Thanks, Steven http://www.blkbox.com/~swhatley/ _|_ | _|_ "I am the way and the truth and Steven Whatley | --|-- | the life. No one comes to the swhatley@blkbox.com | | | Father except through me." Houston, Texas | -- Jesus Christ (John 14:6 NIV) | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA07601 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA08809; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:23:17 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA15704; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:19:14 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA56542 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:18:46 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA19894 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:18:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQvvO-00038gC; Mon, 12 May 97 07:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5ksqnh$ce8$1@alpha2.drake.edu> Date: 8 May 1997 15:16:01 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: ta2321s@alpha6.drake.edu (Terry Asher) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Deleting lots of messages X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Okay, this is an easy one. What is the command to delete say all the messages starting from 1 to 400 with one command without having to type d for every single one of the 400 messages? Terry Asher ******************************************************************************* * UNIX Administrator & Web Master | Yours through INTERNET, * * Academic Computing & Media Services| Terry Asher * * Carnegie Hall - Drake University | UNIX-INTERNET* * 2620 Carpenter |For the listener who listens in the snow* * Des Moines, Iowa 50311 USA |and nothing himself, beholds the nothing* * (515) 271-3677 |that is not there and that is there. * * Did you know that NutraSweet contains strychnine? * * Web home page at http://www.drake.edu/public/ta2321s_home.html * ******************************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:53:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA04909 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA09282; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:53:03 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA16952; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:44:00 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA28988 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:42:35 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA28740 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:42:33 -0700 Received: from is2.nyu.edu (pqr7499@IS2.NYU.EDU [128.122.253.135]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA09086 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:42:30 -0700 Received: from localhost by is2.nyu.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/28Jan97-0620PM) id AA25278; Mon, 12 May 1997 10:42:10 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 10:42:10 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Paula B. Rand" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Can you help? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi. I was recently informed by the computer that my disc quota has been exceeded, and therefore with numerous beeps, it told me I could no longer save anything. Neither can I append new addresses to my address book. I consequently deleted a large number of files, but this seems to have made no difference. Help? Thanks, Paula Rand From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA09812 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA04219; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:16:19 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA10878; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:10:58 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA18234 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:10:38 -0700 Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA08836 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:10:31 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 12 May 1997 15:40:12 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id PAA18125; Mon, 12 May 1997 15:41:22 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 15:41:18 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Don't expand newsgroups In-Reply-To: <5l03cs$de@news.blkbox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Steven Whatley X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 9 May 1997, Steven Whatley wrote: > Actually I have a few pine questions. I've checked the FAQ. > > How do I get pine to not expand the newsgroup fold but still expand the > mail folders? I'm using pine 3.90. You can't do this in any version of Pine. The default is either to expand collections or to not expand them. (I think there have been rumours of more per-folder and/or per-collection control in a future release but am not sure.) > What is the latest version of pine? 3.96? What was the release date? > My ISP claims pine isn't being supported any more and is "old". 3.96 is indeed the current version of Pine. I don't know if there's an official release of dates past versions were released anywhere, but going off the date-stamps of the old versions' distribution files: 3.87 < 23 Aug 1994 3.88 < 23 Aug 1994 3.89 < 23 Aug 1994 3.90 26 Aug 1994 3.91 11 Oct 1994 3.92 18 Mar 1996 3.93 11 Apr 1996 3.94 12 Jun 1996 3.95 15 Jul 1996 3.96 28 Feb 1996 Version 4.00 is being developed by the Pine Team even now. Perhaps what your ISP is _really_ saying is that _they_ don't support Pine any more?! > Where is the official site to retrieve the latest version? ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/ You can get the source code kit and compile it yourself, or pull a pre-compiled binary for a number of platforms. If you have a PC running Windows *and* your ISP provides an IMAP server then you may like to investigate PC-Pine (which runs on your PC). Available from the same place. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:17:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA09919 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:17:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA04241; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:17:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA18072; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:11:30 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA76880 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:10:43 -0700 Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA08851 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:10:38 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 12 May 1997 16:02:51 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id QAA28975; Mon, 12 May 1997 16:03:59 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 16:03:58 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Can you help? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Paula B. Rand" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Why? Because your "disc quota has been exceeded"! Most sites limit the amount of information each user can store on their computers. "Information" may be files that you have created as part of your work, and may also include messages you have stored in folders. The solution is to release some of your disc quota by deleting any files and/or messages you no longer need to keep. Please contact your local help desk for furhter advice... you sent you message to a world-wide list of people who discuss the Pine mail program; we do not have access to your computers and cannot advise further on what you should delete or how to do it. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On Mon, 12 May 1997, Paula B. Rand wrote: > > > > Hi. I was recently informed by the computer that my disc quota has been > exceeded, and therefore with numerous beeps, it told me I could no longer > save anything. Neither can I append new addresses to my address book. I > consequently deleted a large number of files, but this seems to have made > no difference. Help? > Thanks, > Paula Rand > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA11689 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA10741; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:50:51 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA20134; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:44:36 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA19420 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:44:19 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA27385 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:44:17 -0700 Received: from gatekeeper.msi-uk.com (gatekeeper.msi-uk.com [194.131.97.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA10590 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:44:14 -0700 Received: by gatekeeper.msi-uk.com; id PAA20779; Mon, 12 May 1997 15:29:23 GMT Received: from unknown(192.240.0.144) by gatekeeper.msi-uk.com via smap (V1.3) id sma020770; Mon May 12 15:28:58 1997 Received: from scimitar.msi-uk.com by msi-uk.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA21372; Mon, 12 May 1997 16:45:34 +0100 Received: by scimitar.msi-uk.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA03661; Mon, 12 May 1997 16:45:34 +0100 Message-Id: <199705121545.QAA03661@scimitar.msi-uk.com> Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 16:45:34 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: tonycl@msi-uk.com (Tony Clark) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Compiling Pine3.96 on solaris 2.5 Content-Type: text X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Phone-Number: +44 0171 971 8800 X-Fax-Number: +44 0171 971 8712 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN After some minor hacking with makefiles and ucbcc program bits i have managed to get most of the pine suite compiled. pico/pilot/imap/c-client etc. But cannot for the hell get pine compiled. If fails on the first C file. addrbook.c "addrbook.c", line 4704: undefined symbol: h_select_nickname_take "addrbook.c", line 4707: undefined symbol: h_select_nickname "addrbook.c", line 4710: undefined symbol: h_use_address_bookx "addrbook.c", line 4713: undefined symbol: h_use_address_bookl "addrbook.c", line 4716: undefined symbol: h_select_addr "addrbook.c", line 4721: undefined symbol: h_address_book "addrbook.c", line 6196: undefined symbol: h_composer_abook_nick Anyone any ideas ? -- Tony Clark (troy clank) Mobile Systems International PLC Tel: +44 (0)171 971 8800 Systems Administrator chiefy@padua.org, excuse the spelling mistakes no time, l8r dudez ! :) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA11771 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA05411; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:01:32 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA12853; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:42:43 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA26866 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:41:11 -0700 Received: from quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.19]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA26980 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:41:09 -0700 Received: from imap.srv.ualberta.ca (imap.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.76.80]) by quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13218 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:41:01 -0600 Received: from gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.19]) by imap.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA22776 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:41:00 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 09:41:00 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Lea To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Can you help? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Information List X-Sender: maldridg@gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To the growing list of posters who are getting 'disk quota exceeded' messages: if you're looking ONLY in your Pine folders for files to delete, start looking elsewhere. In my experience with clients, the most likely place to find large files (or large numbers of small files) is the home directory of your unix account. Next most likely would be your News or .tin subdirectories, if either applies to your installation. If you need keystroke-specific command help, talk to your provider. Lea ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) http://www.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/tutor/Tutorials.html http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/Wiz/Wizard '...But I didn't mean to be brave; it just sort of happened when I panicked...' -Piglet ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:22:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA12116 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:22:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA11684; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:22:29 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id JAA26758; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:16:14 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA50982 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:15:47 -0700 Received: from eagle.ais.net (rwilshe@eagle.ais.net [199.0.154.5]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA06740 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:15:46 -0700 Received: from localhost (rwilshe@localhost) by eagle.ais.net (8.8.5/AIS) with SMTP id LAA19850; Mon, 12 May 1997 11:15:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 11:15:32 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robert J. Wilshe" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine's here to stay! (was: Re: Don't expand newsgroups) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Brudenell X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > On 9 May 1997, Steven Whatley wrote: > > > What is the latest version of pine? 3.96? What was the release date? > > My ISP claims pine isn't being supported any more and is "old". Mike Brudenell responded: > Perhaps what your ISP is _really_ saying is that _they_ don't support Pine > any more?! I think what Steve's ISP or admin is saying is: Gee, I can't really figure out how to use anything besides a graphical client (like Eudora, etc.), therefore anything I don't understand is "old" and not used. I had an experience with an ISP who told me the same thing when I was discussing a Pine issue with them. I cancelled my account the next day. It was painfully obvious they had no clue how to use Pine, or BSD Mail, or any text-based client, much less any intention of supporting one. A friend told me this when we were discussing the fate of Pine and other UNIX based mailers: "The techs and code-geeks (his words, and he's one of them :) will always have to provide solutions to those who refuse to type, stretch their minds, or generally have to think. We like text based mail, and generally the rest of the Internet how *we* designed it. That way, it'll still be usable by intelligent people, and the GUI's will keep the money, popularity, and content increasing and flowing." Yeah... he's a little pretentious, but I think he has interesting point. As Mike suggested, see if your ISP supports IMAP and get a copy of PC-Pine. Don't worry: Pine's here to stay. That is, until they develop a GUI mailer that can allow thousands of University students to read, store, and compose mail without getting a computing lab machine's configuration and resources all screwed up. GUI clients are just starting to allow access to multiple mailboxes over IMAP. Pine's WAY ahead of the game for this purpose. OK, I'm off of my soapbox now... :) \\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\ robert chicago illinois joseph u s a wilshe rwilshe @ ais.net //\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\// From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:27:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA12512 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:27:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA11808; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:27:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id JAA22237; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:22:48 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA45374 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:22:25 -0700 Received: from eagle.ais.net (rwilshe@eagle.ais.net [199.0.154.5]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA16560 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:22:23 -0700 Received: from localhost (rwilshe@localhost) by eagle.ais.net (8.8.5/AIS) with SMTP id LAA21295; Mon, 12 May 1997 11:22:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 11:22:19 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: "Robert J. Wilshe" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robert J. Wilshe" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Can you help? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Lea X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 12 May 1997, Lea wrote: > > To the growing list of posters who are getting 'disk quota > exceeded' messages: if you're looking ONLY in your Pine folders > for files to delete, start looking elsewhere. In my experience > with clients, the most likely place to find large files (or large > numbers of small files) is the home directory of your unix > account. Next most likely would be your News or .tin > subdirectories, if either applies to your installation. If you > need keystroke-specific command help, talk to your provider. > > Lea Good point, Lea. I hear a lot of complaints about quotas exceeded by the same users who love to leave several proceses running and just exit their telnet client without logging off their shell, letting core dumps pile up in their accounts. These users should look for these files (any file with "core" usually in the name) and delete them. Just another suggestion.... \\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\ robert chicago illinois joseph u s a wilshe rwilshe @ ais.net //\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\// From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 10:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA14916 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 10:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA13899; Mon, 12 May 1997 10:43:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA19857; Mon, 12 May 1997 10:39:25 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA58310 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 10:39:10 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA17353 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 10:39:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQyzT-00038gC; Mon, 12 May 97 10:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 12 May 1997 17:32:34 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: "No options screen yet" ? References: <33712872.41060172@news.community.net> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN pmb1@york.ac.uk (Mike Brudenell) complains: > It would have been a BIG help if you had bothered to say if you are using > (UNIX) Pine or PC-Pine, and what version number you are using > (it's usually shown up in the top-left corner of the Pine display). I think it would also be a big help if the version string included the OS, eg: DOS-PINE-3.96 UNIX-PINE-4.01 Linux-PINE-4.2 How about this for the next release? Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA18929 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA11571; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:54:50 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA27413; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:50:39 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA49658 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:49:36 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA23676 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:49:33 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 12 May 97 21:49:18 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA01404; Mon, 12 May 1997 21:05:28 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 21:05:23 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Can you help? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Lea X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 12 May 1997, Lea wrote: Wise words, to which I'd humbly like to add: check your .netscape file if there's one -- mine once held 50MB :-/ >To the growing list of posters who are getting 'disk quota exceeded' >messages: if you're looking ONLY in your Pine folders for files to >delete, start looking elsewhere. In my experience with clients, the most >likely place to find large files (or large numbers of small files) is the >home directory of your unix account. Next most likely would be your News >or .tin subdirectories, if either applies to your installation. If you >need keystroke-specific command help, talk to your provider. - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM3dp9We8+XvDOeNZAQHjrgf9ESle/KokDqmHAMVRh4d0vRQQtcplv62U V/pjrihR5bNiMCe3d1En9gepZhFUBZpZclcqs452riUtVe7h0z/IFCiG/Y79Wt7l Onhp9lDM3IAjBx1T9z6vQWtDgekwa48Xr57SvVGC2YhyYDby32bhJYuAI94Ymtqg lFNo0Y3bLOD5GpWj2mES1XnvpzFzhCJN1aLqKznVBZv22cBhzWw3gfLTbw2cmaza BVU+zxRdRoCGLSdUmx/O+A05BRBxrRRfdqv+ZlSyEc4TWoADs2lWc0VDRDyJbeJP o9RrQhOeXExPreEZ7LoWi+Ro/WUIdqNoE+BhDM2/fmKWOBeX58GW/w== =cu06 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA19114 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA11594; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:55:18 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA27364; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:50:07 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA49600 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:49:29 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA02099 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:49:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wR15c-00038gC; Mon, 12 May 97 12:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 12 May 1997 17:26:02 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Q: no filter mechanisme for pine?! References: <5k2755$ccp$1@elna.ethz.ch> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN gurt@nacamar.net (Hans-Joachim Gurt): > > > > pine does not exist any filter mechanisme like in elm? > > > That is correct. Pine does not do any mail or newsgroup filtering. > > Mail filters are supposed to be independent from mail user agents. > ok - for mail, procmail works fine. > But for news, I havn't seen anything independent yet. There are newsreaders which you can run to apply the killfile automatically on the newsrc. You don't have to use them for reading only, see? ;-) > > My wish for Pine-4.0: > > Add a page of help that explains a "filter" in a few words and with > > pointers to procmail in order to eliminate these kinds of FAQs right away! > and explain how to filter/killfile while reading news with pine ? The killfile part is easy: "PINE does not have a killfile. Period." That was easy. Next!! Sven -- "Scoring" rules! Use SLRN! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA08716 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:59:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA17374; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:59:51 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA27756; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:55:04 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA49518 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:54:31 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA24139 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:54:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wR19D-00038gC; Mon, 12 May 97 12:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <33747713.11909882@ersatz.ocis.temple.edu> Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 19:13:21 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: sillypup@rocketmail.com (Steve) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: What's this: 'DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA' ? References: <33718dd1.1204965@news.toplink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 08 May 1997 08:45:42 GMT, baiti@herrenberg.netsurf.de (Friedemann Baitinger) wrote: >recently I noticed the following mail in my inbox for the first time: > >| Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 18:11:39 +0200 (MET DST) >| From: Mail System Internal Data >| Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA >| >| This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not >| a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. >| If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created >| with the data reset to initial values. > >Can anybody shed some light on this? Who put it in the inbox, is it >something sendmail 8.8.5 (I upgraded recently) does or does it belong >to PINE? I don't want this message in my inbox. If it needs to be >there, it should at least hide itself so that it doesn't confuse the >MUA. > >-- >Friedemann Baitinger baiti@herrenberg.netsurf.de Don't fool with it!! i did and wiped out important suff(folder info, mail,etc) it's created by pine 3.95 and above that I have. steve From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 13:07:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA19410 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 13:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA11942; Mon, 12 May 1997 13:07:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA28099; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:59:50 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA53250 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:59:29 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA11150 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 12:59:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wR1B7-00038gC; Mon, 12 May 97 12:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 12 May 1997 17:27:57 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Untitled References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN sultan@bom2.vsnl.net.in (Sultanallys Solutions Ltd.(Demo A/C)): > As soon as the message composed exceeds two lines, there is "disk quota > exceeded" message at the bottom of the screen and the message cannot be > sent. Please help at the earliest. Send me $1000 and I'll read the user manual to you. Boy, I just love saying "Solutions Limited". :-) Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 14:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA21742 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 14:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA20122; Mon, 12 May 1997 14:46:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA03220; Mon, 12 May 1997 14:42:37 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA55320 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 14:42:04 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA22762 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 14:41:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wR2kx-00038gC; Mon, 12 May 97 14:35 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 5 May 1997 12:55:38 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@cauchy.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Edit subject on received mail? References: <5kg270$o5f$1@nnrp1.crl.com> <5khcdq$co7$1@nnrp1.crl.com> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN oak@crl.com (Tony Gonzalez): > Okay, I use a good ascii text editor vim (vi)... > how would I go about editing mail in the inbox? $EDITOR $MAIL On my system here this wille expand to vim /var/spool/mail/guckes If your system writes the mailbox with Content-Length then you can be quite in trouble as editing will almost certainly change the length of the messages. Therefore you should delete the lines before calling your mailer on this folder: :g/^Content-Length: /d But there are even more ways to screw it up, so don't do it unless you know what you do! You have been warned! ;-) Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 16:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA23828 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 16:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA23194; Mon, 12 May 1997 16:54:18 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA18326; Mon, 12 May 1997 16:50:36 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA39752 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 16:50:03 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA26902 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 16:50:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wR4n7-00038gC; Mon, 12 May 97 16:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 21:36:17 EDT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Bill To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Kermit Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Probably in the wrong house but need to talk with a higher form of life. Someone who knows how to get the software up and running. All I can get is a empty screen that has a feww commands across the bottom that do not apply. Bill From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 23:59:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA28722 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 23:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA23329; Mon, 12 May 1997 23:59:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA26154; Mon, 12 May 1997 23:56:18 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA39746 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 23:56:00 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA17090 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 23:55:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wRBUx-00038gC; Mon, 12 May 97 23:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 12 May 1997 16:54:42 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Deleting lots of messages References: <5ksqnh$ce8$1@alpha2.drake.edu> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN ta2321s@alpha6.drake.edu (Terry Asher): > Okay, this is an easy one. What is the command to delete say > all the messages starting from 1 to 400 with one command without > having to type d for every single one of the 400 messages? > Terry Asher UNIX Administrator & Web Master Yeah, this should be an easy one for a sysadmin. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 1997 01:05:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA29125 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 01:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA24068; Tue, 13 May 1997 01:04:55 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id AAA08296; Tue, 13 May 1997 00:59:54 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA44754 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 00:59:27 -0700 Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id AAA08077 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 00:59:24 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:34/2.6.2.c) id JAA11653; Tue, 13 May 1997 09:59:11 +0200 Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id JAA10794; Tue, 13 May 1997 09:58:35 +0200 Received: by mail.ife-le.de (Smail-3.2.0.91) with smtp; id for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 09:51:31 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 09:50:50 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rudolf Kompf To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Delete 1-400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: ta2321s@alpha6.drake.edu X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Terry, goto config-menu and allow 'enable-aggregate-command-set'. Then type in the index screen of your folder ';' ,'N','1,400','A','D'. Rudolf -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 1997 04:58:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA30832 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 04:58:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA26892; Tue, 13 May 1997 04:58:07 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id EAA12158; Tue, 13 May 1997 04:55:08 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA40974 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 04:51:46 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id EAA16142 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 04:51:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wRG3G-00038gC; Tue, 13 May 97 04:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 12 May 1997 17:28:36 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Untitled References: <199705100524.KAA11004@bom2.vsnl.net.in> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN shivam@bom2.vsnl.net.in (shivam@bom2.vsnl.net.in): > Pls. give us more infomation on Pine. man pine Sven -- Sven Guckes guckes@math.fu-berlin.de [rtfm] RTFM "While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. RTFM It's a Spanish story about a guy named `Manual'" - Dilbert RTFM http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/rtfm/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 1997 05:05:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA31239 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 05:05:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA26998; Tue, 13 May 1997 05:05:50 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id EAA02709; Tue, 13 May 1997 04:59:08 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA46474 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 04:55:43 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA28100 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 04:55:42 -0700 Received: from deborah.buckscol.ac.uk (deborah.buckscol.ac.uk [192.149.238.11]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA03029 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 04:55:34 -0700 Received: (from yhodso01@localhost) by deborah.buckscol.ac.uk (8.7.1/8.7.1) id MAA15437; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:55:44 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 12:55:42 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Yvonne.Hodson" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: active file for newsgroups MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: yhodso01@deborah X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Using pine3.91 on SunOS4.1.3 Please can anyone tell me what should be in the active file for local newsgroups. Is it a list of newsgroup pathnames and if so should it be the full path or relative to news-spool-directory. I know how to tell pine where to look for the active file, it's what it actually is I can't find any instructions for. I can't get local news to work. Yvonne Hodson Sun System Support Buckinghamshire College From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 1997 05:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA03760 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 05:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA03309; Tue, 13 May 1997 05:17:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id FAA12467; Tue, 13 May 1997 05:09:17 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA41082 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 05:07:10 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA05333 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 05:07:09 -0700 Received: from deborah.buckscol.ac.uk (deborah.buckscol.ac.uk [192.149.238.11]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA03165 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 05:07:00 -0700 Received: (from yhodso01@localhost) by deborah.buckscol.ac.uk (8.7.1/8.7.1) id NAA16534; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:08:05 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 13:08:01 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Yvonne.Hodson" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: permissions on pine3.96 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: yhodso01@deborah X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN SunOS4.1.3 Is pine 3.96 more particular about permissions? I have compiled and installed 3.96 in the same way as I did 3.91 - the ownership and execute permissions are exactly the same. When I try to send a message with 3.96 I get a sendmail message cannot write the queue file - permission denied and a coredump. Any ideas? Yvonne Hodson Sun System Support Buckinghamshire College From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 1997 09:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA03507 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 09:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA00905; Tue, 13 May 1997 09:00:35 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA37688; Tue, 13 May 1997 08:53:38 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA52898 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 08:51:58 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA22537 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 08:51:55 -0700 Received: from slf1.slf.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (slf1.slf.ruhr-uni-bochum.de [134.147.98.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA00648 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 08:51:52 -0700 Received: from SUSI.slf.ruhr-uni-bochum.de by slf1.slf.ruhr-uni-bochum.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0wRL25-000BIkC; Tue, 13 May 97 17:06 WET Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 18:04:16 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Angeles To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Just a question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: boronata@slf1.slf.ruhr-uni-bochum.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, Can any of you help me, please? I was trying to have a chat with a friend in Spain. He has a American Online adresse. He talks about a certain buddy list. What is that? I dont have such a thing! Can I have a chat per pine, telnet or Netscape? How is it exactly? I am new here. It would be very nice if some of you could help me. Thanks a million, A.B.G From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 1997 09:05:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA03678 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 09:05:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA07465; Tue, 13 May 1997 09:05:47 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA22769; Tue, 13 May 1997 08:58:30 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA67224 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 08:57:27 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA04206 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 08:57:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wRJwP-00038gC; Tue, 13 May 97 08:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 08:37:42 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "maurice.steyvers" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine adressbook question ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, Is it possible to use or transform a large text file (in some arbitrary format with about 2000 mail-adresses) as your personal adressbook. Are there any tools to do this conversion ? The idea is to offer a campus-wide adressbook to our university. Maurice Steyvers Universiteit Maastricht NL. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:19:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA06510 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:19:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA04604; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:19:17 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id LAA21122; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:11:57 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA19500 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:10:39 -0700 Received: from eagle.ais.net (rwilshe@eagle.ais.net [199.0.154.5]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA09569 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:10:32 -0700 Received: from localhost (rwilshe@localhost) by eagle.ais.net (8.8.5/AIS) with SMTP id NAA12975; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:10:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 13:10:29 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robert J. Wilshe" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Just a question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Angeles X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Angeles: As ashamed as I am to admit it, I do have familiarity with America Online. :) America Online is not an internet service provider, they are an online service provider. This means that they do have access to internet resources, but the majority of their content is proprietary (they design it, and it's not available elsewhere). The chat and buddy list features your friend has are proprietary to America Online (actually they're bad imitations of IRC the *real* internet chat), so you can't use them on the internet. "Talk" is a UNIX daemon (program) that allows two users to chat in real time on their telnet terminals. Again, AOL does not have this. But! I *think* that new versions of AOL (not sure about international versions) have a true TCP/IP stack, so you could use an IRC client to chat with him/her in that way. To use "talk", both you and your friend would have to have a UNIX shell account. Best advide though: get your friend to use a *real* ISP, not AOL. Your possibilities are ten-fold then. Hope this helps, let me know if you have any other questions! \\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\ robert chicago illinois joseph u s a wilshe rwilshe @ ais.net //\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\// On Tue, 13 May 1997, Angeles wrote: > Hello, > Can any of you help me, please? > I was trying to have a chat with a friend in Spain. He has a American > Online adresse. He talks about a certain buddy list. What is that? I dont > have such a thing! Can I have a chat per pine, telnet or Netscape? > How is it exactly? > I am new here. It would be very nice if some of you could help me. > Thanks a million, > A.B.G > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:32:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA26625 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA05037; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:32:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id LAA02448; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:24:08 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA28830 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:23:14 -0700 Received: from eagle.ais.net (rwilshe@eagle.ais.net [199.0.154.5]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA21163 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 11:23:11 -0700 Received: from localhost (rwilshe@localhost) by eagle.ais.net (8.8.5/AIS) with SMTP id NAA15551; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:23:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 13:23:04 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: "Robert J. Wilshe" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robert J. Wilshe" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine adressbook question ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "maurice.steyvers" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Maurice: There is software (or a script) that will do this for you, but I've been able to do it using Microsoft Excel, actually! If you can import your data into Excel (on Windows, probably), the import wizard will help you parse your text into columns. Your column order needs to be: Nickname, Fullname, Address, Fcc, Comment Save the parsed data without any header in "Text (Tab delimited)" format in Excel. Then FTP this file up to where you want the global addressbook. The .addressbook.lu should be rebuilt when it's accessed. This did work for me. Hopefully it'll work for you. I've seen tools that will do this, but I can't remember where I saw them / heard of them. Good luck, \\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\ robert chicago illinois joseph u s a wilshe rwilshe @ ais.net //\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\// On Tue, 13 May 1997, maurice.steyvers wrote: > Hi, > > Is it possible to use or transform a large text file (in some > arbitrary format with about 2000 mail-adresses) as your personal > adressbook. Are there any tools to do this conversion ? The idea > is to offer a campus-wide adressbook to our university. > > > Maurice Steyvers > Universiteit Maastricht > NL. > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA08687 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:03:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA07446; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:03:55 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA08545; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:58:30 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA19354 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:58:08 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA01775 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 12:58:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wRNfY-00038gC; Tue, 13 May 97 12:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 13:27:11 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: I S Speirs To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Deleting lots of messages In-Reply-To: <5ksqnh$ce8$1@alpha2.drake.edu> References: <5ksqnh$ce8$1@alpha2.drake.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm really confused about this one, Terry. A Unix Admin/Web Master and wanting to know that? Uh, I use PINE 3.96 and select using ";" and then "N" for number and the range of numbers. Seems pretty simple--hope it wasn't a trick question. :) On 8 May 1997, Terry Asher wrote: > Okay, this is an easy one. What is the command to delete say all > the messages starting from 1 to 400 with one command without having to > type d for every single one of the 400 messages? > Terry Asher > ******************************************************************************* > * UNIX Administrator & Web Master | Yours through INTERNET, * > * Academic Computing & Media Services| Terry Asher * > * Carnegie Hall - Drake University | UNIX-INTERNET* > * 2620 Carpenter |For the listener who listens in the snow* > * Des Moines, Iowa 50311 USA |and nothing himself, beholds the nothing* > * (515) 271-3677 |that is not there and that is there. * > * Did you know that NutraSweet contains strychnine? * > * Web home page at http://www.drake.edu/public/ta2321s_home.html * > ******************************************************************************* > > Ian Scott Speirs Man imagines that it is death he fears; ispeirs@polaris.umuc.edu but what he fears is the unforeseen. cirrusly@juno.com -Saint-Exupery http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/4535/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:33:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA09251 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:33:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA14633; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:33:06 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA25984; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:28:26 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA55316 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:28:04 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA15420 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 13:28:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wRO6z-00038gC; Tue, 13 May 97 13:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5lacjb$55o@news.blkbox.com> Date: 13 May 1997 18:40:43 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steven Whatley To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Don't expand newsgroups References: <5l03cs$de@news.blkbox.com> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Steven Whatley wrote: : How do I get pine to not expand the newsgroup fold but still expand the : mail folders? I'm using pine 3.90. I ended up turning off expanded-view-of-folders and setting up a initical key sequence of l,CR. It gives the same affect. The reason I wanted to do this is it was taking a long time to do a folder list becasue it has to expand the newsgroup every time. My provider supplies 28,000+ newsgroups through his newsfeed. I normally don't use pine for news. But there have been occasions I had to use Pine to read certain binary posts. Thanks, Steven http://www.blkbox.com/~swhatley/ _|_ | _|_ "I am the way and the truth and Steven Whatley | --|-- | the life. No one comes to the swhatley@blkbox.com | | | Father except through me." Houston, Texas | -- Jesus Christ (John 14:6 NIV) | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA10158 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA15499; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:08:58 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA01497; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:03:33 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA55512 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:03:13 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA26676 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:03:11 -0700 Received: from one.net (mail.one.net [206.112.192.107]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA08942 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 14:03:07 -0700 Received: from swk (port-30-47.access.one.net [206.112.210.157]) by one.net (8.8.4/8.7.5) with ESMTP id RAA27438 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 17:02:57 -0400 Message-Id: <3378D725.C0968705@cinbelt.com> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 17:03:33 -0400 Reply-To: knechtly@cinbelt.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Knechtly To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: [Fwd: Pico 2.9 problem] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------1978A5ADF52A8F3CE468B58F" X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1978A5ADF52A8F3CE468B58F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- Regards, Steve Knechtly, Systems Administrator for Cincinnati Belting and Transmission. Mailto:knechtly@cinbelt.com --------------1978A5ADF52A8F3CE468B58F Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <3378D38F.C22E7C9A@cinbelt.com> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 16:48:15 -0400 From: Steve Knechtly Reply-To: knechtly@cinbelt.com Organization: Cincinnati Belting and Transmission X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pico 2.9 problem X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------404992FF821334D9091A0748" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------404992FF821334D9091A0748 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying to port PICO 2.9 and ELM to my HP9000 G40 running HP-UX 10.01. We are running WYSE60 terminals (24 line display). Everything works fine EXCEPT the arrow keys. Without this feature my users (100+) will be clueless on how to use the editor. Can you give me some ideas on this ? Thanks in advance. -- Regards, Steve Knechtly, Systems Administrator for Cincinnati Belting and Transmission. Mailto:knechtly@cinbelt.com --------------404992FF821334D9091A0748 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Steve Knechtly Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Steve Knechtly n:Knechtly;Steve org:Cincinnati Belting and Transmission adr:;;737 West 6th Street;Cincinnati;OH;45203; email;internet:knechtly@cinbelt.com title:Systems Administrator tel;work:513-621-9050 tel;fax:513-621-0549 tel;home:513-793-2176 x-mozilla-cpt:;0 x-mozilla-html:FALSE end:vcard --------------404992FF821334D9091A0748-- --------------1978A5ADF52A8F3CE468B58F Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Steve Knechtly Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Steve Knechtly n:Knechtly;Steve org:Cincinnati Belting and Transmission adr:;;737 West 6th Street;Cincinnati;OH;45203; email;internet:knechtly@cinbelt.com title:Systems Administrator tel;work:513-621-9050 tel;fax:513-621-0549 tel;home:513-793-2176 x-mozilla-cpt:;0 x-mozilla-html:FALSE end:vcard --------------1978A5ADF52A8F3CE468B58F-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:30:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA05477 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA19018; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:30:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA09104; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:24:55 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA37666 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:23:30 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA11807 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 16:23:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wRQqQ-00038gC; Tue, 13 May 97 16:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 13 May 1997 22:21:36 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: [Fwd: Pico 2.9 problem] References: <3378D725.C0968705@cinbelt.com> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN knechtly@cinbelt.com (Steve Knechtly): > I am trying to port PICO 2.9 and ELM to my HP9000 G40 running HP-UX 10.01. > We are running WYSE60 terminals (24 line display). Everything works fine > EXCEPT the arrow keys. Without this feature my users (100+) will be > clueless on how to use the editor. Can you give me some ideas on this ? Make them clueful - arrow keys are not required to do work. Btw, you misspelt "mutt" and "vim". Hope this helps. ;-) Seriously - what do these terminals say about arrow codes? Sven === Oh, btw, all this is not required for asking a question: knechtly@cinbelt.com (Steve Knechtly): > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------1978A5ADF52A8F3CE468B58F > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > -- > > Regards, > > Steve Knechtly, Systems Administrator > for Cincinnati Belting and Transmission. > > Mailto:knechtly@cinbelt.com > --------------1978A5ADF52A8F3CE468B58F > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline > > Message-ID: <3378D38F.C22E7C9A@cinbelt.com> > Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 16:48:15 -0400 > From: Steve Knechtly > Reply-To: knechtly@cinbelt.com > Organization: Cincinnati Belting and Transmission > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (Win95; I) > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Pico 2.9 problem > X-Priority: 3 (Normal) > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------404992FF821334D9091A0748" > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------404992FF821334D9091A0748 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I am trying to port PICO 2.9 and ELM to my HP9000 G40 > running HP-UX 10.01. We are running WYSE60 terminals (24 line > display). Everything works fine EXCEPT the arrow keys. > Without this feature my users (100+) will be clueless on > how to use the editor. Can you give me some ideas on this ? > Thanks in advance. > > -- > > Regards, > > Steve Knechtly, Systems Administrator > for Cincinnati Belting and Transmission. > > Mailto:knechtly@cinbelt.com > --------------404992FF821334D9091A0748 > Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Description: Card for Steve Knechtly > Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" > > begin:vcard > > fn:Steve Knechtly > > n:Knechtly;Steve > > org:Cincinnati Belting and Transmission > > adr:;;737 West 6th Street;Cincinnati;OH;45203; > > email;internet:knechtly@cinbelt.com > > title:Systems Administrator > > tel;work:513-621-9050 > > tel;fax:513-621-0549 > > tel;home:513-793-2176 > > x-mozilla-cpt:;0 > > x-mozilla-html:FALSE > > end:vcard > > > > > --------------404992FF821334D9091A0748-- > > --------------1978A5ADF52A8F3CE468B58F > Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Description: Card for Steve Knechtly > Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" > > begin:vcard > > fn:Steve Knechtly > > n:Knechtly;Steve > > org:Cincinnati Belting and Transmission > > adr:;;737 West 6th Street;Cincinnati;OH;45203; > > email;internet:knechtly@cinbelt.com > > title:Systems Administrator > > tel;work:513-621-9050 > > tel;fax:513-621-0549 > > tel;home:513-793-2176 > > x-mozilla-cpt:;0 > > x-mozilla-html:FALSE > > end:vcard > > > > > --------------1978A5ADF52A8F3CE468B58F-- > Three kilobytes wasted yet again. *sigh* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA15543 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:05:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA14541; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:05:19 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA24316; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:00:33 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA56882 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:00:13 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA17964 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:00:11 -0700 Received: from adenauer.slu.edu.ph (literati@adenauer.slu.edu.ph [165.220.36.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA20897 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 17:59:22 -0700 Received: from localhost (literati@localhost) by adenauer.slu.edu.ph (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA07597 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 09:05:38 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 09:05:37 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Gerard Espiritu To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: How to gain access to other e-mail addresses MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To whom this may concern, It's my first time to use the pine program, and I would like to inquire if I can gain access to specific e-mail addresses. Are they (e-mail addresses) kept confidential or otherwise ? Is there such a thing as a "phone book" for e-mail addresses? Thank you and God bless. Sincerely, Gerard L. Espiritu Philippines From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:33:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA15003 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:33:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA14944; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:33:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA25569; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:29:01 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA05598 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:28:45 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA03446 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:28:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wRSpA-00038gC; Tue, 13 May 97 18:25 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 08:33:02 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paul O Bartlett To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: bunch of doubts In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 12 May 1997, Heme aqui wrote: > Hello. I am a pine user and I have tried to make some experiments with > this email program. My knowledgements arevery small on this. I just > would like to know where to go in order to add, in the header, the line > > Reply-to: From the Main Menu, go into Setup and then Config. Scroll down until you come to a field called customized-hdrs:. There will be online help available at this point. You can add your customized Reply-to: header here. Either fill in the actual address to which you want the reply to be sent, and it will be included with every message, or leave it blank, in which case you can fill it in or not for each message individually. (You may have to use Rich Headers, Control-R, in this latter case.) > I also have > tried to send mail using the IP address of servers, [...] I have never tried this, so I do not know how it would work. Perhaps someone else on the newsgroup can help you with it. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA15745 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:33:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA21370; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:33:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA25607; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:29:16 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA41198 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:28:48 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA19807 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:28:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wRSrF-00038kC; Tue, 13 May 97 18:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 15:35:35 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: yosuke kimura To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: character-set on the fly In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 8 May 1997, yosuke kimura wrote: > > How can I change "OPTION: character-set" easily? > > I want to used both iso-8859-1 and iso-2022-jp for character-set > specification of out-going mail, in addition to us-ascii. > > Thanks a bunch for your help! > Does anybody know how "display-filters" and "sending-filters" works? Can I use these to solve my problem? Thanks! --- yosuke kimura grad. student (Environ. Wat. Resour. Engr.) The Univ. of Texas at Austin, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA15871 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:45:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA21511; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:45:30 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA26418; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:41:10 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA56922 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:40:51 -0700 Received: from nicon.nicon.org (roberts@nicon.nicon.org [207.53.163.33]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA20625 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:40:46 -0700 Received: from localhost (roberts@localhost) by nicon.nicon.org (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA05764 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:40:45 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 18:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robert Sylvester To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Download Files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm using a dialup to access Pine 3.96 on a remote server and want to download files stored in my home directory on the server to my machine. When I [E] Export and then [^T] To Files via the Browser I can see the files I want but I don't know how to select and/or download them. I seem to be stuck working with the email message I was looking at when I used the export command. Any help would be appreciated. Robin Socha, it's obvious why you subscribe to this forum, if you didn't, nobody would write to you. Please don't bother replying, I don't need the sarcasm. Bob Sylvester From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:53:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA16064 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:53:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA21645; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:52:57 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA26930; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:50:52 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA18848 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:50:39 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA05032 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:50:38 -0700 Received: from oils.oilservice.com (oils.oilservice.com [208.0.146.251]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA21618 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 18:50:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (hal@localhost) by oils.oilservice.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id VAA00662 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 21:50:43 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 21:50:43 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Hal Davison - System Creator To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Call Off the Dogs... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On the previous rock...Geezo, I solved the problem by just killing the running process. Well this problem was solved, we now gotta get managment from tinkering with the system. --Hal. ================================ Hal Davison * Davison Consulting "Making PROGRESS Since 1985" Systems and Database Consultant Petroleum Distribution Industry ================================ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA13077 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:50:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA15920; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:50:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA18209; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:45:14 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA44512 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:43:57 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA26732 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:43:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wRU1k-00038jC; Tue, 13 May 97 19:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 17:24:40 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Heme aqui To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: bunch of doubts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Greetings, Hello. I am a pine user and I have tried to make some experiments with this email program. My knowledgements arevery small on this. I just would like to know where to go in order to add, in the header, the line Reply-to: I have never succeded on this. Would you please help me? I also have tried to send mail using the IP address of servers, but I have always been delivered them. I don't know if this has to do with the server where I have my email address itself or pine program. Thank you very much for your help. Pleased to meet you. Ricardo. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:50:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA05347 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:50:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA15923; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:50:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA18314; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:47:40 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA44540 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:44:03 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA08455 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:44:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wRU2A-00038kC; Tue, 13 May 97 19:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5l8k2k$3u2@news.healey.com.au> Date: 13 May 1997 02:36:04 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: mikz@sydney.healey.com.au To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: PC Pine, or even OS/2 Pine? X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've been using Pine for years through my shell account. I love it. I've finally got my ppp connection set up, though, so I'd like to reap the benefits of a local mailer. Help files keep talking about PC-Pine. Does anybody know about such a beast? I don't suppose there's an OS/2 version of Pine available form anywhere, is there? I can run Windoze 3.1 software, is there a version for it? Thanks, MikZ. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:51:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA15490 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:51:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA22376; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:51:15 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA28721; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:46:26 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA44526 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:44:00 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA17100 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:43:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wRU1M-00038gC; Tue, 13 May 97 19:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 12 May 1997 18:08:29 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: recognizing if an article was posted to a newsgroup References: <5kv41h$f9t@kensie.dorsai.org> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN pobart@access.digex.net (Paul O Bartlett): > > So when you receive an email with a message id that includes "pine" - how > > do you know whether it was posted to a newsgroup, too? [...] > From the message-id alone, I would surmise that you probably can't. How about seperate kinds of ids for private/public responses? > I just made a check both with my memory and in a spot check of saved message > folders. All newsgroup postings I could see or recall which I viewed with > Pine have a Newsgroups: header, ... Well, your posts may be saved like this in your "sent folder" - but I don't think that Pine adds the Newsgroups line for copies of posts. It would be very good if Pine *did* add the Newsgroups line! > I really am rather confused by the original poster's distinction between > "private" and "public" in this arena. Pine knows of no such things. Well, posts do have a Newsgroups line in the header - so when you "reply" to a message including this line then it will post it, ie hand it over to, say, "inews". So why can't Pine be so smart as to add *some* note to indicate that it was a *public* reply? > Is it a question of HOW TO USE PINE to get the results you want when > replying? That's mostly a matter of paying attention to what you're doing, > watching the headers, and reading the prompts. Well, not everybody enjoys reading through the header looking for clues. It's about time that Pine showed whether you are reading public or private text. > As it now is, Pine's design assumes you can take at least > a minimum amount of responsibility for what you are doing. It would be nice if Pine helped taking care of that by showing you whether you are seeing a public response or a private one. I hate messages from Pine just for that - you never know whether to reply or followup. Hrmpf Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:54:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA15491 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA15959; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:53:58 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA28955; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:50:11 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA18940 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:48:56 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA27051 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:48:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wRU2i-00038lC; Tue, 13 May 97 19:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5l8k7c$odk$1@aggedor.rmit.edu.au> Date: 13 May 1997 02:38:36 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: rudat@minyos.its.rmit.EDU.AU (Martin Ming Rudat) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: character-set on the fly References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN yosuke kimura (yosuke@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu) wrote: : Does anybody know how "display-filters" and "sending-filters" works? Can : I use these to solve my problem? : : Thanks! Personally I dunno how they work, I assume it just pipes the message through the filter program, and send what it prints on stdout. One possibility is to have write a program that triggers on something like "", and interts the apropriate information there. -- visit my web-sites at: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/1509 http://minyos.its.rmit.edu.au/~rudat email me at: martin@whoever.com rudat@minyos.its.rmit.edu.au From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:55:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA16544 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:55:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA15974; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:55:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA18586; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:52:44 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA05440 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:49:21 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA08698 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:49:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wRU3j-00038jC; Tue, 13 May 97 19:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 13 May 1997 13:48:16 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: no more coredumps! References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN rwilshe@ais.net (Robert J. Wilshe): > I hear a lot of complaints about quotas exceeded by the same users who love > to leave several proceses running and just exit their telnet client without > logging off their shell, letting core dumps pile up in their accounts. These people deserve to live with it! (No, seriously.) A book on Unix usually explains about core files and how to handle them. The Shells csh, tcsh, and zsh allow to limit the size of a core dump with a variable, usually names "coredumpsize". Set to zero and - no more coredumps. ;-) Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:55:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA16388 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:55:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA22424; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:55:49 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA18804; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:51:24 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA05384 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:48:58 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA17375 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:48:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wRU3F-00038gC; Tue, 13 May 97 19:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5l9d18$plk@bioalp.biobase.dk> Date: 13 May 1997 09:42:00 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: scancm@biobase.dk (Christian Mondrup) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine adressbook question ? References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN maurice.steyvers (steyvers@ica.unimaas.nl) wrote: : Hi, : Is it possible to use or transform a large text file (in some : arbitrary format with about 2000 mail-adresses) as your personal : adressbook. Are there any tools to do this conversion ? The idea : is to offer a campus-wide adressbook to our university. I do something similar in a cron job reading a list of users from an Oracle table and writing each column to a file in Pine address book format: nickname \t surname, first name \t email address : Maurice Steyvers : Universiteit Maastricht : NL. -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Christian Mondrup + + Computer Programmer + + Scandiatransplant, Skejby Hospital, University Hospital of Aarhus + + Brendstrupgaardsvej + + DK 8200 Aarhus N + + Denmark + + + + Phone: +49 89 49 53 01 + + Telefax: +45 89 49 60 07 + + E-Mail: scancm@biobase.dk + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:56:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA06369 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA22439; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:56:42 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA29153; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:54:04 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA44362 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:49:24 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA24922 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 19:49:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wRU3x-00038kC; Tue, 13 May 97 19:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5l9ran$scd@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 13:45:48 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: ken@mango.human.cornell.edu (Ken Simler) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Enriched Text References: <3.0.1.32.19970511035335.007a4a10@giasbma.vsnl.net.in> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In article <3.0.1.32.19970511035335.007a4a10@giasbma.vsnl.net.in>, shirishk@giasbma.vsnl.net.in (Shirish Kalele) wrote: >Hi! >We use Pine 3.93 on our UNIX network and I was wondering if Pine can send >enriched text msgs. And if so, how does one compose such a msg? I know that >Pine 3.93 can interpret enriched text because it shows the text >brighter and the underlined text underlined and so on.. >Anybody got a clue? As far as I can tell you have to compose the text/enriched message outside of Pine, and then send it as an attachment. You also need to have an entry in your .mime.types file that maps whatever file extension you use on the file to the MIME type/subtype text/enriched. On Unix systems, Pine does the following search for .mime.types files. (The following is excerpted from the .mime-types that is distributed with Pine). # Pine first looks for "~/.mime.types", then adds # any unbound MIME types found in "/etc/mime.types" # and "/usr/local/lib/mime.types". -Ken From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 1997 21:41:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA17348 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 21:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA23783; Tue, 13 May 1997 21:41:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id VAA22091; Tue, 13 May 1997 21:39:14 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA28690 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 21:38:57 -0700 Received: from eagle.ais.net (rwilshe@eagle.ais.net [199.0.154.5]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA04038 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 21:38:56 -0700 Received: from localhost (rwilshe@localhost) by eagle.ais.net (8.8.5/AIS) with SMTP id XAA04196; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:38:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 23:38:46 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: "Robert J. Wilshe" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robert J. Wilshe" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Download Files In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robert Sylvester X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Robert: What you basically need is a bridge between your UNIX account on the remote server, and your (home?) machine. This bridge is called FTP (File Transfer Protocol). FTP is basically used to move data between machines that are connected via the Internet. UNIX to UNIX, UNIX to PC, UNIX to Mac, etc.... Assuming you're using your home machine, perhaps a PC, you can use your web browser to go to the following page: http://www.ipswitch.com/Products/WS_FTP/pd_wsftp_eu_license.html This is Ipswitch's download page for their "WS_FTP LE" FTP client for Windows. Their home page is www.ipswitch.com. It's the most widely used Windows FTP client (I think) and it's FREE to individuals! If you're using a Mac, I believe "Fetch" is the rumored best Mac FTP client. It's at: http://www.dartmouth.edu/pages/softdev/fetch.html Either of these come with great documentation and help, and you'll be downloading those files in no time. Good luck, \\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\ robert chicago illinois joseph u s a wilshe rwilshe @ ais.net //\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\// On Tue, 13 May 1997, Robert Sylvester wrote: > I'm using a dialup to access Pine 3.96 on a remote server and want to > download files stored in my home directory on the server to my machine. > When I [E] Export and then [^T] To Files via the Browser I can see the > files I want but I don't know how to select and/or download them. I seem > to be stuck working with the email message I was looking at when I used > the export command. Any help would be appreciated. > > Robin Socha, it's obvious why you subscribe to this forum, if you didn't, > nobody would write to you. Please don't bother replying, I don't need the > sarcasm. > > Bob Sylvester > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:05:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA28941 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA24786; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:05:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA05463; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:01:48 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA37856 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:00:40 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA20441 for ; Tue, 13 May 1997 23:00:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wRX5j-00038jC; Tue, 13 May 97 22:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 19:47:11 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Kenneth P. Turvey" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How do get pine to show longer headers? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Paul O Bartlett wrote: : On Sat, 10 May 1997, Kenneth P. Turvey wrote: : > When composing mail, I would like pine to show longer headers so that : > I can see the complete names of some custom headers I have set up. Is : > this possible? How is it done? : When all else fails, have you read the instructions before : inquiring? I would suggest looking in the configuration for something : that seems to deal with headers, as well as all the online help : available both for each configuration item and for Pine as a whole : (from the Main Menu). Thank you, sir, for your complete and accurate reply. ;) If you thought I was looking for the rich headers command, that is not correct. I have set some custom headers up. When I hit ^R pine shows these headers, but it only shows the first 8 characters of the headers. I would like to see more than the first 8 characters of the header. I have looked in all the documentation available to me and have not found anything referencing this problem. I do apologize if the original post was unclear. -- Kenneth P. Turvey Finger my account for PGP key info. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a bit longer. -- Henry Kissinger From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:23:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA18228 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA19813; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:23:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA09760; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:20:42 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA26006 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:20:24 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA27528 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:20:22 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 14 May 97 10:20:07 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA00103; Wed, 14 May 1997 08:06:05 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 08:04:38 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How to gain access to other e-mail addresses In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Gerard Espiritu X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 14 May 1997, Gerard Espiritu wrote: >It's my first time to use the pine program, and I would like to inquire >if I can gain access to specific e-mail addresses. Are they (e-mail >addresses) kept confidential or otherwise ? Is there such a thing as a >"phone book" for e-mail addresses? Try: http://www.whowhere.com http://www.switchboard.com Later, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM3lV+Ge8+XvDOeNZAQHYtQf9HMsg5nfBmSuPavCP17hA703lBOSxQgy0 19+LjP16c7Ra2tTb31sYpvKFADkg0anPUf0vbPO2ve061+C9N5YbCkImAgQsIHB8 pODeHdY8+pxk2W9RniZH0N8+A+7+S1W0AGMfixif91RMMln2wxLb1SFljzv6Sl2l +OhhzGvuvUuCYnjZENEqgMUNXIgebNI2xEI/GVyKnVfwyWUFDT5vKQzjqfkf1E0J JNCQP+1qRhttEXnpAPtCWB8cNUXSzW+oI54jh2BVon4vurjoD49biyz9hVRpIbSU WEQtVNGZ9w+nvpf2vInA58rYElHweB4/1mXTIutacgXzCfMYS7/Dzw== =TKvM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA18755 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:23:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA19816; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:23:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA28916; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:20:03 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA25926 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:19:25 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA27481 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:19:23 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 14 May 97 10:19:06 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA00310; Wed, 14 May 1997 08:25:50 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 08:25:45 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: Robin S Socha Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: bunch of doubts In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Heme aqui X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 12 May 1997, Heme aqui wrote: >Hello. I am a pine user and I have tried to make some experiments with >this email program. My knowledgements arevery small on this. Wrong attitude :-) Try saying: My knowledge is growing with every day :-) >I just would like to know where to go in order to add, in the header, the >line > Reply-to: >I have never succeded on this. Would you please help me? The answer to the question at hand is this: customized-hdrs ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Add these custom headers when composing. Also possible to add default values to these custom headers or to any of the standard headers. This is a list variable. Each entry in the list is a header name (the actual header name that will appear in the message) followed by an optional colon and value. For example, if a Reply-to header was needed because it was different from the From address, that could be accomplished with: customized-hdrs=Reply-to: fred_flintstone@bedrock.net But generally, you might find it helpful to read the documentation that comes with pine (at least the "Getting Started" part), or a good email-faq (can be obtained from www.yahoo.com). >I also have tried to send mail using the IP address of servers, but I >have always been delivered them. I don't know if this has to do with the >server where I have my email address itself or pine program. I don't quite get this part, honestly :-), but the above should do the trick. Later, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM3la62e8+XvDOeNZAQH8hgf/blSTCHoV0XNSfRWvmsY9ATMRLo4tw4me 3+jQfJuUYA4DGMST7d036whnNdBn7vkzJhyFqaCrhs3ECGn/BWc+geLDa2J2DoxP Rch0N6kb62sa3mPlAwAV7UCWAf6LhU6j2u1AFqzHtIhByvhJ22KiZ82cUWLuTtn8 B0pOteb9GmfFBhseobwla3UnsvEwwQHpzRttKdHiSA2U/DVxoCeJ3wFoP+aAJhhi 15JD68XK+oCnwhm6ZXVOahb+4Jg3Wl6S68tBy2Nr0ni6VqhaeIPt6gN+DJz+ZWTv IiorN3eVNTjf6KbUoSzq+WZQheNldF/lhOhweLsJ/j2td/X5zO+hZQ== =E1Fq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA05537 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA26561; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:23:57 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA28833; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:19:00 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA52952 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:18:41 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA27443 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:18:39 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 14 May 97 10:18:22 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA00584 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 09:28:31 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 09:28:24 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Enriched Text In-Reply-To: <5l9ran$scd@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 13 May 1997, Ken Simler wrote: >shirishk@giasbma.vsnl.net.in (Shirish Kalele) wrote: >>We use Pine 3.93 on our UNIX network and I was wondering if Pine can >>send enriched text msgs. And if so, how does one compose such a msg? I >>know that Pine 3.93 can interpret enriched text because it shows the >> text brighter and the underlined text underlined and so on.. >>Anybody got a clue? >As far as I can tell you have to compose the text/enriched message >outside of Pine, and then send it as an attachment. Depends on how you define "outside". It'll do to invoke an external editor in pine. XEmacs 19.15 (I know that's ridiculous:_) but at least it's easier than manually attaching a file... ) could do that, and so could the editor that comes with the Andrew Toolkit (but that one is GUI only afaik). Just my $.02 Later, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM3lpmme8+XvDOeNZAQEvrAgAopy/tdfkKkbohweBAW6yDKmmSKxMOL3u KL+Iyz2X7a08iDejYfQwwNIkDdHXyXmieIX7DiqDBe6z+7Y/Q+1TjTb0/7oIHwns ydY+veFDFPvSEZSi1LB2aoK1Faxvk+VRb/4gUCKeR3Jrzg/XpFMA+AMxQcVu8Kf9 siOaCYe7pXLctWPSNdpmo78UKw2dyO4xylOJ3PyRmsudMZ+aQE42pGhPkhDzXAO2 s7TRc3CJDiBWuI/8uYPqoA6XrFrgv4zQtLM7BoiMEu34agSSBFfUOsutk/Y25bjf G1PH6zSFDPTXx1878zhpzmNjm2rmoUN5AanB1Q2xi1zik9qgjfdYsA== =9SCl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:25:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA19010 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:25:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA26586; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:25:40 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA28878; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:19:48 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA17662 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:19:04 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA27469 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 01:19:02 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 14 May 97 10:18:45 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA00470; Wed, 14 May 1997 09:16:05 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 09:15:57 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Download Files In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robert Sylvester X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 13 May 1997, Robert Sylvester wrote: >I'm using a dialup to access Pine 3.96 on a remote server and want to >download files stored in my home directory on the server to my machine. >When I [E] Export and then [^T] To Files via the Browser I can see the >files I want but I don't know how to select and/or download them. I seem >to be stuck working with the email message I was looking at when I used >the export command. Any help would be appreciated. 1) See to it, that you have some ftp protocol on both your machines. If you don't have one, get it from e.g. www.yahoo.com. 2) Make up your mind if you want to Export files from pine or ftp files from your remote computer. There's a slight difference involved, mainly concerning flexibility and some nifty tech-specs you wouldn't be interested in, judging from the attitude you display towards the end of your message. 3) Provided your remote host runs some flavr of u*ix, then to make the Export function work the way you want, you have to do the following: Goto M(ain), S(etup), C(onfig) and set the following commands: download-command This option affects the behavior of the Export command. It specifies a Unix program name, and any necessary command line arguments, that Pine can use to transfer the exported message to your personal computer's disk. download-command-prefix This option is used in conjunction with the Download-command option. It defines text to be written to the terminal emulator (via standard output) immediately prior to starting the download command. This is useful for integrated serial line file transfer agents that permit command passing (e.g., Kermit's APC method). > Robin Socha, it's obvious why you subscribe to this forum, if you didn't, > nobody would write to you. Please don't bother replying, I don't need the > sarcasm. Robert Sylvester, it's obvious why you subscribe to this forum, if you didn't, nobody would read your pathetic whining. Please read the mails I've written in response to EXACTLY the same question *quite* a few times before. AND... If you can stand sarcasm, you'll have to live with outright rudeness: Robert Sylvester, you're a quarrelsome luser: grep -i download /READ_ME/Pine/* | less ... and I didn't even have to be rude to my computer to give me the answer... Later, Robin - - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM3lmsGe8+XvDOeNZAQETjQf9G4bs8Q1OhGlqebwROVVrFPR8298PfQJZ eEpMpmmbP4+1s2shdVbzddpAayxy7mzkIeXBe/5dhYRKx50bCS+DBHt6S4Jki0QT GMaxvIBeDl2EFxX8W8n8aVF+vg65pbEQu04kfzFQqtk46Yqz0dH4hv3XY2vwYXr5 y8GqChznNcAE0DXjw4Iqz10RlLNACeKLFGr7PLq9Ga5WYFtmhHfWp8HA2WKJVipX vx/0TMsil5lFHfHkTTCYnanwvbVyzLJlJFq0avoQU37oVVjT9SSUYPrbO11hjcKB 8JIbEuvsw8lxaR0erjGXMbMPvLrBrURz+t9u6w7gtAcGHsVOJUnkFQ== =NinD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 May 1997 07:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA09382 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 07:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA01126; Wed, 14 May 1997 07:03:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id GAA06871; Wed, 14 May 1997 06:56:45 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA57132 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 06:56:10 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA12538 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 06:56:07 -0700 Received: from brainy1.ie-eg.com (brainy1.ie-eg.com [194.79.96.40]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id GAA00980 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 06:56:03 -0700 Received: from ppp245.ie-eg.com by brainy1.ie-eg.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/24Aug96-0523PM) id AA02007; Wed, 14 May 1997 16:53:42 +0300 Message-Id: <3379C19A.79E5@briny1.ie-eg.com> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 16:43:54 +0300 Reply-To: memnon@brainy1.ie-eg.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: memnon To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: more info. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN more information about pcanywhere software and its using From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 May 1997 08:31:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA13544 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 08:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA25882; Wed, 14 May 1997 08:31:15 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA21473; Wed, 14 May 1997 08:26:22 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA15462 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 08:25:56 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA05859 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 08:25:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wRfuh-00038gC; Wed, 14 May 97 08:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 11:08:59 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paul O Bartlett To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: HELP!!! SOMEONE WANTS TO MAIL BOMB ME!! In-Reply-To: <5lau83$mgh$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <5lau83$mgh$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 13 May 1997, Tyrone Jue wrote: > Could some one help me? I have been receiving threats from this guy who said that he is going to mail bomb me! The address > on the letter is fake because he used my friends email address! Is there anyway to shut down my mailbox from all incomming > messages or is there someway to track down who is doing this? Please help... I would suggest that the first thing you do is try to get some local help from an experienced person to try to find out what the would-be mail bomber's real address is. Most organizations which provide email service (schools, government agencies, commercial providers) take such a dim view of mail bombing that they will simply give a mail bomber the boot. But you have to know the individual's real address so you can send a complaint to postmaster@_mail_bomber's_address_domain_. Failing that, from your message headers it appears that you are on some kind of Un*x system. If so, you can use a mail filtering tool such as procmail to discard mail from that person as fast as it comes in -- and also to log it for proof of what he is doing! If you have a WWW browser, browse my home page, follow the link to Nancy McGough's pages, and go a couple of links in to all of her good information on mail filtering. procmail is not always the easiest tool to use for newcomers, but it is extremely powerful. Good luck. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 May 1997 19:28:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA05521 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 19:28:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA10729; Wed, 14 May 1997 19:28:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA01878; Wed, 14 May 1997 19:25:00 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA62804 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 19:24:26 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA16135 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 19:24:24 -0700 Received: from icogsci1.ucsd.edu (mpeffer@icogsci1.ucsd.edu [132.239.147.59]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA10692 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 19:24:22 -0700 Received: from localhost (mpeffer@localhost) by icogsci1.ucsd.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id TAA20549 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 19:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 19:25:14 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: mpeffer@ucsd.edu Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Monica Peffer To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Wrong Order MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, The incoming messages as well as the files I have created have reversed order, in terms of the messages being organized in descending order instead of ascending. This had just changed one time when I logged on. I tried to change commands in the setup command, but wasn't sure which command(s) need to be changed. I'm also wondering if it's not a program error, because I'm pretty sure I didn't change any of the settings. Anyway, it's pretty annoying since the highlighted message in the inbox is now the oldest message instead of the newest. If you have any helpful suggestions it would be appreciated. Thank you. Monica Peffer mpeffer@icogsci1ucsd.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 May 1997 22:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA01791 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 22:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA20094; Wed, 14 May 1997 22:35:40 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA28410; Wed, 14 May 1997 22:33:07 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA51022 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 22:32:49 -0700 Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id WAA16316 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 22:32:47 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:34/2.6.2.c) id HAA26843; Thu, 15 May 1997 07:32:44 +0200 Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id HAA21786; Thu, 15 May 1997 07:32:08 +0200 Received: by mail.ife-le.de (Smail-3.2.0.91) with smtp; id for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 07:22:17 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 07:21:38 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rudolf Kompf To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Wrong Order In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: mpeffer@ucsd.edu X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 14 May 1997, Monica Peffer wrote: -> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 19:25:14 -0700 (PDT) -> From: Monica Peffer -> Reply-To: ucsd.edu!mpeffer@ife-le.de -> To: Pine Discussion Forum -> Subject: Re: Wrong Order -> -> Hi, -> -> The incoming messages as well as the files I have created have reversed -> order, in terms of the messages being organized in descending order -> instead of ascending. This had just changed one time when I logged on. I -> tried to change commands in the setup command, but wasn't sure which -> command(s) need to be changed. I'm also wondering if it's not a program -> error, because I'm pretty sure I didn't change any of the settings. -> Anyway, it's pretty annoying since the highlighted message in the inbox is -> now the oldest message instead of the newest. If you have any helpful -> suggestions it would be appreciated. Thank you. -> -> Monica Peffer -> mpeffer@icogsci1ucsd.edu -> -> In the config-menu read help-page for 'sort-key'. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 May 1997 22:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA07183 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 22:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA13262; Wed, 14 May 1997 22:48:49 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA28734; Wed, 14 May 1997 22:45:38 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA17148 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 22:45:27 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id WAA10849 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 22:45:25 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 15 May 97 07:45:08 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id FAA11870; Thu, 15 May 1997 05:13:52 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 05:13:46 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Wrong Order In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: mpeffer@ucsd.edu X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 14 May 1997, Monica Peffer wrote: sort-key This variable sets up the default index sorting. The default is to sort by arrival order. It has the same functionality as the -sort command line argument and the $ command in the folder index. If a sort-key is set, then all folders open during the session will have that as the default sort order. In your pinerc, this looks like this: # Sets presentation order of messages in Index. Choices: # subject, from, arrival, date, size. Default: "arrival". sort-key= Just change that, and you're there. >The incoming messages as well as the files I have created have reversed >order, in terms of the messages being organized in descending order >instead of ascending. This had just changed one time when I logged on. I >tried to change commands in the setup command, but wasn't sure which >command(s) need to be changed. I'm also wondering if it's not a program >error, because I'm pretty sure I didn't change any of the settings. >Anyway, it's pretty annoying since the highlighted message in the inbox >is now the oldest message instead of the newest. If you have any helpful >suggestions it would be appreciated. Thank you. - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM3p/bGe8+XvDOeNZAQGoDgf8C9RuV9VMJDeYEo8k8H6grWoF6XnL3Kss OrJ8GiRmi1Mf3RIeMb9a5jtE/laysiTX2BUrhkTaJGUp3RYaNGYVNqzQD6GHw2li yRtbyEtZmt5qpv5nJiyNXTFGBG4Aq5hJRhUaVk8tCmNlnnURT1b8v/dALssiBjqQ 1GMQ9usn2Hh+hL8RRNwuYK1lFXfMcQecgDsUc6Cin296Ez2FwUf8IUiwpbuvkgLU ynKqXyj8Tds4QaewDpll7POsht6xImBA5i5VMqAqyFD74nz14mdgUqRFdJyC8G4W f7BacDGwhNvDddLEYiBSsYbqE4MTnK/svwRs9Mcq12r742ZmsefDcA== =anY3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 May 1997 23:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA28808 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 23:51:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA14103; Wed, 14 May 1997 23:51:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA00461; Wed, 14 May 1997 23:48:34 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA27316 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 23:48:22 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA02435 for ; Wed, 14 May 1997 23:48:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wRuJn-00038jC; Wed, 14 May 97 23:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 07:18:03 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Peter Karlsson To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: POP3 In-Reply-To: <33784052.6C6@magnarapa.com> References: <33784052.6C6@magnarapa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 13 May 1997, Marcantonio Magnarapa wrote: > How do I specify a pop3 server to catch my mail, You don't, PC-Pine doesn't support POP3. > so that I can read my mail later, once disconnected? You don't, Pine can't [currently] be used as an offline reader. Sorry. -- \\// Peter - http://nafmo.home.ml.org/ - ICQ UIN 762719 - Association Against Big .sigs From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:16:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA08220 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:16:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA22047; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:16:33 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA03299; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:13:55 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA50380 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:13:33 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA27921 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:13:32 -0700 Received: from bingsun3.cc.binghamton.edu (bingsun3.cc.binghamton.edu [128.226.1.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA15054; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:13:26 -0700 Received: from localhost (be82484@localhost) by bingsun3.cc.binghamton.edu (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA19450; Thu, 15 May 1997 04:14:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 04:14:47 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: STIGMATA To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Sug (ID 775JD): addressbook quota MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Developers , pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: be82484@bingsun3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN i have a problem. i added an address to my addressbook, and now i can't access any of the saved addresses i had. i type in a nickname in the "To:" header when composing messages, and it's not recognized. i can't even get into my addressbook to delete some of them. when i do, it says "permission denied". i need help. i think i added one too many addresses to my book, and i fear i may have wiped them all out or something. if you can help, i'd really appreciate it. thanx. sincerely, chris b. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA08712 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA15111; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:17:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA15530; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:14:23 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA73696 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:13:46 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA23247 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:13:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wRvdb-00038gC; Thu, 15 May 97 01:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 14 May 1997 22:52:30 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: maclaudio@msmail3.hac.com (Tony Claudio) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Download Files References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN try ws_ftp or if you want to download your email then try eudora 3.0 In article , uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de (Robin S Socha) wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > On Tue, 13 May 1997, Robert Sylvester wrote: > > >I'm using a dialup to access Pine 3.96 on a remote server and want to > >download files stored in my home directory on the server to my machine. > >When I [E] Export and then [^T] To Files via the Browser I can see the > >files I want but I don't know how to select and/or download them. I seem > >to be stuck working with the email message I was looking at when I used > >the export command. Any help would be appreciated. > -- Tony Claudio Hughes San Diego From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA03616 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:32:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA15272; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:32:50 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA03581; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:28:46 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA50184 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:28:37 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA17666 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 01:28:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wRvti-00038gC; Thu, 15 May 97 01:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <337ae8a5.0@news.internexus.net> Date: 15 May 97 10:42:45 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Laszlo Vecsey To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: smarter gzipped sent-mail storage X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Would be nice if pine gzipped previous months sent-mail folders for more compact storage, and allowed for easy onthefly compression and decompression of gzipped folders.. - - lv -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBM3o/WQO8sT3NuDlpAQH+lwf/R5oH7RD5UQyWRfj7Q7HNXwMe2EOmahcX C1ltXkBQ1HElkkYFIdP0x+pnSoc8s0zZ5NjrIoCYNhcrxONZ4foC5iaT46QmWj4Z iwMSXrFvmg5wIepQRjor4pLK5MKwr0DwN3wbGoZRAGgIEDt6CuEQurNm7+3+THoK OCGdIeTx6xvILG203d7sLFiVlCb/6Ztv2e8JxDTAhbTR2IyZkI0c975jIA1hJIEI ezDMmG6MprooFyNL17GoNrhtrjh/wJ1ZvckHakuPY8Lt7G8SPYamKwxmIAFRIHzn U+yzS0UxUzcP4aNNt/CdGxr7ws3RCv5/NCskLQkO+WObE7SooCISPA== =Swaj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 May 1997 02:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA09952 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 02:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA16116; Thu, 15 May 1997 02:53:57 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA17618; Thu, 15 May 1997 02:49:15 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA15552 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 02:48:54 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id CAA01001 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 02:48:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wRx9G-00038jC; Thu, 15 May 97 02:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <33773D06.1F3C@eng.auburn.edu> Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 10:53:42 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Gerald W. Carter" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: PC-pine 3.96 ( 16-bit ) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Just curious... :-\ Has anyone else complained about the global addressbook feature in the 16-but version of PC-Pine 3.96? I keep getting a general protection fault when pine attempts to expand an address from the global addressbook. Any ideas? j- -- ________________________________________________________________________ Gerald ( Jerry ) Carter Engineering Network Services Auburn University cartegw@eng.auburn.edu http://www.eng.auburn.edu/users/cartegw "...a hundred billion castaways looking for a home." - Sting "Message in a Bottle" ( 1979 ) ________________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 May 1997 04:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA10746 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 04:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA16947; Thu, 15 May 1997 04:03:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA19287; Thu, 15 May 1997 03:59:28 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA37008 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 03:59:05 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id DAA11188 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 03:59:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wRyBH-00038gC; Thu, 15 May 97 03:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 12:22:13 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Christian T. Steigies" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: PINE/PICO temp files In-Reply-To: <5ldm6t$dnn@due.unit.no> References: <5ldm6t$dnn@due.unit.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 15 May 1997, Orjan Johansen wrote: > In article , > Christian T. Steigies wrote: > >Hi, > >How can I convince PINE/PICO to write its temp files not to /tmp but to > >/tmp/mydir ? I'm using the joe editor instead of pico but the temp files are > >still called pico.something. I want them to go into mydir, the tmp dir looks > >awfull, cleanup is much faster when its all in one dir. > > I have been looking a bit around, and it seems like this is usually > controlled by the $TMPDIR environment variable, which affects not just > pine, but probably most Unix programs. You should be able to put the > following in your (fingering to check your shell) .bashrc file: > > export TMPDIR=/tmp/mydir I'm using bash, but I have no .bashrc file. I set TMPDIR in my .profile, TMP is allready set to /tmp/mydir. This made ELM/JOE to write its snd files into mydir. TMPDIR doesnt help for neither for PINE/JOE nor when I use PICO to edit a text file. pico files still end up in /tmp. I created a .bashrc with export TMPDIR ... Don't work either... Yes, I did log in again to make the changes work. Why does PINE create a pico file anyway when I use JOE? Probably its just a name for the tmp file needed for attaching my sig file... Ciao, Christian. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Christian T. Steigies EMail: steigies@physik.uni-kiel.de Institut fuer Experimentalphysik, CAU Kiel Olshausenstrasse 40-60 D-24098 Kiel Tel: +49 - (0)431-880-3871 Fax: +49 - (0)431-880-3809 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 May 1997 05:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA11041 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 05:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA17886; Thu, 15 May 1997 05:02:51 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA20516; Thu, 15 May 1997 04:59:54 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA36952 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 04:59:40 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA25012 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 04:59:38 -0700 Received: from cyber1.servtech.com (root@cyber1.servtech.com [199.1.22.8]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA17841 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 04:59:36 -0700 Received: from infinity.tor.servtech.com (mikes@infinity.tor.servtech.com [204.181.8.241]) by cyber1.servtech.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA08413 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 07:59:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mikes@localhost) by infinity.tor.servtech.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA13136 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 07:02:17 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 07:02:17 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Auto Replay MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN How do i sent pine so when i go on summer break it will replay auto. to the person who just send me a mail ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Micheal Spiers E-mail:mikes@cyber-wizard.com 485 Queen St W Pager:(416)372-7442 Toronto, Ont WWW:http://members.tripod.com/~Spiers M5V-2A9, Canada ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 May 1997 05:41:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA10882 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 05:41:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA18313; Thu, 15 May 1997 05:41:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA21750; Thu, 15 May 1997 05:33:16 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA73602 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 05:32:52 -0700 Received: from franklin.icsd.k12.ny.us (root@franklin.icsd.k12.ny.us [207.10.97.70]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id FAA07385 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 05:32:51 -0700 Received: from franklin.icsd.k12.ny.us (bill@franklin.icsd.k12.ny.us [207.10.97.70]) by franklin.icsd.k12.ny.us (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA18276 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 08:31:23 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 08:31:23 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: William Mahler To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine and control-c MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Info Mail List X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have a strange problem with pine. First the configuration, I am running pine 3.96 on a Linux box. The complaint from the users is that control-c does not work. I have tried several time to re-create the error on the machines I use all the time. I cannot get control-c to fail. I HAVE gotten it to fail on other machines. We are running for Telnet either Windows 95 telnet or NCSA telnet 2.6 or 2.7. Most of these machines are Macs. We have check to be sure contrl-c is not configured as a "hot key". It makes no difference. Do any of you have an idea where else I can look? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 May 1997 06:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA15735 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 06:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA25940; Thu, 15 May 1997 06:40:36 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA23616; Thu, 15 May 1997 06:26:29 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA49268 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 06:26:09 -0700 Received: from cliff.uottawa.ca (cliff.uottawa.ca [137.122.6.64]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id GAA18564 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 06:26:03 -0700 Received: from mrgumby.biochm.uottawa.ca by cliff.uottawa.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03a) id AA21174; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:26:01 -0400 Message-Id: <337B0EEB.7F84@uottawa.ca> Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 09:26:03 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Art Lysionok To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Error starting print job: Can't start document. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Me 2 Several installations here of 3.96 have experience the error message: Error starting print job: Can't start document In some instances it will print the doc on the first attempt but if I attempt a second print of the same message the error message appears. If I then change to another msg it will print on the first try but fail on the second. This occurs on direct connected and networked printers as well. -- / / / Art Lysionok / / / / < < < Biochemistry Dept. University of Ottawa < < < < \ \ \ 613-562-5800 X8210 FAX 613-562-5440 \ \ \ \ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 May 1997 06:42:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA10808 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 06:42:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA19023; Thu, 15 May 1997 06:42:10 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA55534; Thu, 15 May 1997 06:29:00 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA49344 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 06:28:48 -0700 Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA10452 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 06:28:43 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 15 May 1997 14:27:09 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id OAA09191; Thu, 15 May 1997 14:27:58 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 14:27:57 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Auto Replay In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN You don't... Pine is a "Mail User Agent" (MUA): a program for reading mail _aftter_ it has been delivered to you. Instead you are wanting to persuade the Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) which does the actualt _delivery_ to send back an automatic reply. If you are using a (reasonably standard) UNIX system this is usually done using a ".forward" file and a program called "vacation". Try reading the manual page for vacation for further help: man vacation. Altyernatively ask someone at your local Help Desk. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On Thu, 15 May 1997, Mike wrote: > How do i sent pine so when i go on summer break it will replay auto. to > the person who just send me a mail > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Micheal Spiers E-mail:mikes@cyber-wizard.com > 485 Queen St W Pager:(416)372-7442 > Toronto, Ont WWW:http://members.tripod.com/~Spiers > M5V-2A9, Canada > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 May 1997 07:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA11874 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 07:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA19347; Thu, 15 May 1997 07:01:31 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA58962; Thu, 15 May 1997 06:55:58 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA55744 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 06:55:39 -0700 Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA12321 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 06:55:24 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 15 May 1997 14:49:43 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id OAA17201; Thu, 15 May 1997 14:50:52 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 14:50:50 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Error starting print job: Can't start document. In-Reply-To: <337B0EEB.7F84@uottawa.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Art Lysionok X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi - I reported this problem to the Pine Team a little while back. Included below is their reply. If you don't fancy waiting for 4.00 or modifying/recompiling 3.96 you might like to know that we have found no problems so far with 3.95. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On Thu, 15 May 1997, Art Lysionok wrote: > Me 2 > Several installations here of 3.96 have experience the error message: > Error starting print job: Can't start document > > In some instances it will print the doc on the first attempt but if I > attempt a second print of the same message the error message appears. > If I then change to another msg it will print on the first try but fail > on the second. > This occurs on direct connected and networked printers as well. Reply from the Pine Team to my earlier Bug Report... Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 16:53:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Seibel To: Mike Brudenell Subject: Re: Bug (ID KR15U): Problems printing from PC-Pine 3.96 to networked printers (fwd) Mike, Apologies for the late response! Turns out the problem has to do with initialization of the structure passed to the StartDOC library call. It appears the Win32 implementation is pretty sensitive to uninitialized fields (in spite of the fact the documentation indicates that, for our use, only some fields, which we initialize, are referenced). The Win16 implementation wasn't as sensitive so we never had such failure. We'll certainly have it fixed in the Pine 4.00 release. In the mean time, if you can re-build from 3.96 sources, the fix is to edit the file pine3.96/pico/mswin.c adding the statement: memset(&di, 0, sizeof(DOCINFO)); just before the structure's cbSize and lpszDocName fields are initialized. It should be right around line 6110. Sorry for the problems, and thanks for the report! -mikes From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 May 1997 07:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA12916 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 07:51:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA20142; Thu, 15 May 1997 07:51:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA27937; Thu, 15 May 1997 07:45:10 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA16898 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 07:44:46 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA11599 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 07:44:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wS1lh-00038gC; Thu, 15 May 97 07:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 10:14:37 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Armond To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: pine-debug# files? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm getting all these pine-debug# files in my root directory and I'd like to know why they are there. Thanks, Armond From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 May 1997 08:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA14304 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 08:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA21366; Thu, 15 May 1997 08:42:51 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA01965; Thu, 15 May 1997 08:37:40 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA61812 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 08:37:09 -0700 Received: from abaco.coastalnet.com (abaco.coastalnet.com [204.183.40.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA21761 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 08:37:07 -0700 Received: from localhost (cn1021@localhost) by abaco.coastalnet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA16798; Thu, 15 May 1997 11:35:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 11:35:37 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe Young To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: pine-debug# files? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Armond X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is debug possibly on in the .pinerc file? May pay to check there first. On Thu, 15 May 1997, Armond wrote: > > I'm getting all these pine-debug# files in my root directory and I'd like > to know why they are there. > > Thanks, > Armond > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 May 1997 08:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA15279 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 08:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA21553; Thu, 15 May 1997 08:50:33 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA19725; Thu, 15 May 1997 08:45:24 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA52810 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 08:44:54 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA12184 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 08:44:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wS2fy-00038gC; Thu, 15 May 97 08:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <3379CD27.1BEC@sinsa.univalle.edu.co> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 09:33:12 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: jgutierr@sinsa.univalle.edu.co To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: HELP: invalid mailbox format Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN After I updated my pine version to 3.95, I cannot read messages at all because I always get the next error message: "Inbox (file/var/spool/jgutierr)is not in valid mailbox format". Any Help ? jgutierr@sinsa.univalle.edu.co From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA10400 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA22100; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:12:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA20921; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:06:57 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA45392 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:06:35 -0700 Received: from yakko.chicks.net (chicks@yakko.chicks.net [205.166.143.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA14630 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:06:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (chicks@localhost) by yakko.chicks.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA23823; Thu, 15 May 1997 12:06:25 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 12:06:23 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Christopher Hicks To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Download Files In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robin S Socha X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 14 May 1997, Robin S Socha wrote: > On Tue, 13 May 1997, Robert Sylvester wrote: > > Robin Socha, it's obvious why you subscribe to this forum, if you > > didn't, nobody would write to you. Please don't bother replying, I > > don't need the sarcasm. > > Robert Sylvester, it's obvious why you subscribe to this forum, if you > didn't, nobody would read your pathetic whining. Please read the mails > I've written in response to EXACTLY the same question *quite* a few > times before. Robert: if you pay attention to this forum enough to know about Robin's replies, then why did you open yourself up like that? Sheesh. He doesn't reply to over half the stuff that appears here. You just made yourself a target. All that people like Robin (and I) expect is for people to read the manual (which is available on the web) and ask there local support. A lot of people do that. Those that are too lazy deserve vituperation. Problems that aren't covered by the manual or the web or local people are more than welcome here. If people indicate they've /tried/ to read the FAQ and the manual without luck we will probably be nice to them. Even people we vituperate get a useful answer. Robin: aren't there some group therapy groups for people who can't cope with sarcasm? Maybe we should these people to alt.warez or some other group therapy? Sheesh. Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to buy Microsoft products. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:31:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA11409 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA22632; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:31:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA05161; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:23:47 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA60596 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:23:21 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA16544 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:23:18 -0700 Received: from quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.19]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA22416 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 09:23:14 -0700 Received: from maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (pilsener.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.76.55]) by quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA48658 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 10:23:13 -0600 Received: from gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.18]) by maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA26927 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 10:23:12 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 10:23:12 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Lea To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Download Files In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Information List X-Sender: maldridg@gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 15 May 1997, Christopher Hicks wrote: > Robin: aren't there some group therapy groups for people who can't cope > with sarcasm? Maybe we should these people to alt.warez or some other > group therapy? Sheesh. One of these days when I have some time I'm going to make an animated gif of a person carrying a sign that says "I CAN'T RTFM!!" Robin and I have had off-list discussions about this before...the line between lazy and newbie is sometimes pretty blurry. Robin leans to the former and I lean toward the latter :-) Maybe it's time to reassess what we can do to try and head off some of the basic questions. I don't read the newsgroup; for those that do, is the feed to the mailing list direct? What if we turned it off and let the two exist independently of each other? That way, if a user first had to sub to the list in order to post, they'd get a welcome message. We could rethink the welcome message and try to structure it such that the information we want the new user to 'get' - look here for basics, look there for tutorials, if any of the following are happening to you go see your sysadmin, here's the basic info we need from you if you're posting a problem to the list...stuff like that...would be right there. We could include a warning or disclaimer or whatever that the person MUST read and follow these list 'rules'. Then we could point people back at the 'rules' if they posted something off or minor... Anyhow, just random thoughts. Feel free to rearrange as desired to suit your personal decor. Lea From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 May 1997 16:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA24544 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 16:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA08869; Thu, 15 May 1997 16:00:17 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA15564; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:54:19 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA37734 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:52:50 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA28583 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:52:47 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 16 May 97 00:52:32 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA01414; Fri, 16 May 1997 00:16:17 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 00:16:10 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Download Files In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Christopher Hicks X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 15 May 1997, Christopher Hicks wrote: [...] >Robin: aren't there some group therapy groups for people who can't cope >with sarcasm? Maybe we should these people to alt.warez or some other >group therapy? Sheesh. There's this *huge* therapy group... I think it's called reality or something. People are different, and some will never learn. I wasn't being sarcastic for the fun of it, but because I felt the original poster was negligent in a way that was offensive to his readers. Finding the answer in the on-line help wouldn't have been such a big deal, and formulating a more specific question wouldn't have been, either. However, gatewaying alt.flamewar into the list for a couple of hours might be a refreshing experience for the more touchy people >;-> Hello, Mr list-admin, do you copy? Just kidding. It's all a matter of netiquette. I find it quite remarkable that, during the last two weeks, I couldn't find a single new user who had read some copy of it. I guess that explains a lot. Later, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM3uLLGe8+XvDOeNZAQH1vwf7BkfVjkI4Irjv+U7PKzY+lhuaGoJ7MG02 lfVdIU/4ns/LPJD7Ya+F9g6QJCiofb+NK5HjnAYLPDN5BAH8xuWg4t7b3yo8wUag aREtq0wcQsPrpOF046tMGL/GjltoxK5zgzL1OLWWlWrDUZTGrV/hTZLaM8cumECR oeAWIoGZCS/JR9W95Cj0hVmTteXBpuQDo4N1zweOEsp2AG5AN/7GJanyXTdt8wcc GT9lvdXCLaYKWDeefb6bCrioZXtWY4ZZZehWjJsyUEL/LIVr+Ya5qLB+JLVm9QM3 cPPrwvvJ4rvi2cNBDQaX2PAETiPrbMNCY7o51f12Dog0XL431DYv0A== =599r -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 May 1997 16:02:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA18314 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 16:02:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA08898; Thu, 15 May 1997 16:02:32 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA56206; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:57:53 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA30072 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:54:00 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA28697 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 15:53:57 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 16 May 97 00:53:37 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA01403; Fri, 16 May 1997 00:10:28 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 00:10:21 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Download Files In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Lea X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 15 May 1997, Lea wrote: >One of these days when I have some time I'm going to make an animated gif >of a person carrying a sign that says "I CAN'T RTFM!!" It already exists. It's a blueish sky with a flying banner saying DOS95 or something. >Robin and I have had off-list discussions about this before...the line >between lazy and newbie is sometimes pretty blurry. Robin leans to the >former and I lean toward the latter :-) Which is perfectly alright imao. Nobody can be expected to know everything about all u*ix programs, and I personally find myself stuck at least 4-5 times a day. Reading the fine manual doesn't always help either, so making a question public is a) an intelligent thing to do, b) an honour for the programmer, because he can see that people are pushing his program to the limits, and c) an incentive for all readers to learn more about certain nifty tex-spex. However, an rtfm-bait question is a nuissance, and an insult to the intellect of those who have to suffer it. In the case of the original poster, I saw a clear-cut case of "why didn't those programmers make everything idiot-proof?", so I added a little incentive for him to readjust his expectations and reevaluate his cooperativeness at once. The internet is a two-sided "thing" in which one has to give back what on receives. The original post seemed to be a case of mere taking ("Where's the button I need to press for my specific needs?"), so ... >Maybe it's time to reassess what we can do to try and head off some of >the basic questions. I don't read the newsgroup; for those that do, is >the feed to the mailing list direct? What if we turned it off and let the >two exist independently of each other? Not good. Sending the faq with every subscription would be a nice thing, though, because then we could flame every luser to hell in pursuit of a righteous cause. Hehehe... >That way, if a user first had to sub to the list in order to post, they'd >get a welcome message. We could rethink the welcome message and try to >structure it such that the information we want the new user to 'get' - >look here for basics, look there for tutorials, if any of the following >are happening to you go see your sysadmin, here's the basic info we need >from you if you're posting a problem to the list...stuff like >that...would be right there. No necessary. Pine has everything on board. The help is more than exhaustive for the vast majority of users. Even the command in question in the original post was in it. Nuff said. Some people just can't read --- they need others to spread the Holy Word. >We could include a warning or disclaimer or whatever that the person MUST >read and follow these list 'rules'. Then we could point people back at >the 'rules' if they posted something off or minor... See above. Besides, most users aren't stupid, they're simply lost. Especially for non-natives (both of English and Computerese), *putting* the question is the hardest part. Rethink all the "how can I make a reply-to appear"--questions of the last days. Without grep, you're pretty stuck sometimes, and even that doesn't cover all problems. How about "aggregate commands"? Probably the most stupid term a German could think of. I couldn't find it but indirectly through an answer on the list. Blablabla... Ahh, yes, and there's this, too: Your page is on the internet. It's all people would need. They don't find it, either because they cannot or they don't want to. Laziness is a common factor in interpersonal exchange, and on the internet, it's even worse many times. Guess we'll have to live with it, won't we? Heavens, what a day! Robin - -- Robin S. 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From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:04:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id UAA18879 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:04:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id UAA12529; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:04:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA26588; Thu, 15 May 1997 20:00:34 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA45360 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 19:59:14 -0700 Received: from thelab.hub.org (hal-ns1-34.netcom.ca [207.181.94.98]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA16926 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 19:59:10 -0700 Received: from thelab.hub.org (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id XAA12941 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 23:59:08 -0300 (ADT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 23:59:08 -0300 (ADT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: The Hermit Hacker To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Sendmail 8.8.5 / Pine 3.96 - using userdb MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi... I've just gone through the archives looking for any reference to using Pine/Sendmail/Userdb to rewrite outgoing addresses, and found stuff relating to Pine 3.91 and pre-8.8.x Sendmail, including suggested Rules for sendmail.cf to work around the problem...none of which seem to work with current releases of both. Now, I don't know if its a change in 3.96 or 8.8.5 that is causing the problem, but its gotten to be quite annoying, since Pine seems to be the only mailer I can't get this to work with :( Has anyone been successful in getting this to work with current releases of both pine and sendmail? Pretty much any/all suggestions will be most appreciated, and tried... I'm getting tired of using Elm :( Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA15121 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA14021; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:09:34 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA14436; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:07:11 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA54396 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:05:57 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id WAA24553 for ; Thu, 15 May 1997 22:05:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wSFB1-00038gC; Thu, 15 May 97 22:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 16:03:30 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Craig Niederberger To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: sent-mail archive verify HELP! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi Pine gurus, I'm running Pine 3.95 on Solaris 2.4. I'd like to disable the feature that asks at the initiation of Pine, 'To save space, do you want to delete sent-mail-'. Does anyone know how to do that? TIA, Craig ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ craign@uic.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Craig Niederberger MD FACS | Chief, Division of Andrology University of Illinois at Chicago | Director Urologic Basic Research Department of Urology M/C 958 | 312-996-2779 Fax: 312-996-1291 840 South Wood St, Chicago IL 60612 | http://godot.urol.uic.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 May 1997 00:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA29617 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 00:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA15797; Fri, 16 May 1997 00:37:30 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id AAA18684; Fri, 16 May 1997 00:32:22 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id AAA59902 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 00:31:07 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id AAA21713 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 00:31:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wSHQD-00038gC; Fri, 16 May 97 00:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 15:52:28 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Hynek Med To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine cannot read MIME error messages Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-2147299696-1243797115-863703199=:11558" Content-ID: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---2147299696-1243797115-863703199=:11558 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Hi, this is about a third time I report this bug.. Noone seems to care. :-( As a listowner, I get lots of MIME error messages from the listserv, like the one I inculde. The trouble is, that pine cannot display them, it says just something like: PINE 3.96 MESSAGE TEXT ll Msg 1 of 1 ALL Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 19:56:45 +0200 From: tolkien@pub.vse.cz To: xmedh02@alfa.vse.cz Subject: Error Condition Re: Mail System Error - Returned Mail And that's all. There's probably some kind of bug in the multiple MIME messages parsing.. When you export the message I have attached to a folder, run a pine -f on it, you should get the effect I describe, though the attachement is visible when just viewed. This happens to almost all MIME error messages from the mailer daemon. (We use listproc 6.0c and sendmail 8.8.5/IDA-1.6.) 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Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 May 1997 00:40:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA29305 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 00:40:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA09255; Fri, 16 May 1997 00:40:50 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id AAA05238; Fri, 16 May 1997 00:37:40 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id AAA52892 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 00:36:19 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA01680 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 00:36:18 -0700 Received: from formby.tenet.edu (root@Paula-Formby.tenet.edu [198.213.2.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA09208 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 00:36:16 -0700 Received: from 207.193.9.79 (ppp-207-193-8-147.hstntx.swbell.net [207.193.8.147]) by formby.tenet.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id CAA22986 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 02:09:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <337C0908.29CA@tenet.edu> Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 02:13:18 -0500 Reply-To: sinclair@tenet.edu Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Clark Sinclair To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Trouble opening my inbox MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-STMJ (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am having trouble opening my inbox. sinclair@tenet.edu What should I do? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 May 1997 01:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA20868 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 01:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA09667; Fri, 16 May 1997 01:13:59 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA05724; Fri, 16 May 1997 01:08:00 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA17620 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 01:06:22 -0700 Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA02774 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 01:06:13 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 16 May 1997 09:03:32 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA08275; Fri, 16 May 1997 09:04:44 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 09:04:44 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: sent-mail archive verify HELP! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Craig Niederberger X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN You cannot do this from the Setup Configuration screen within Pine. However you _can_ if you edit its settings file by hand ($HOME/.pinerc in the case of UNIX Pine). In particular look for the "last-time-prune-questioned" variable. It currently probably has a value of something like "97.5". The format is "yy.mm" where "yy" is the number of years since 1900 and "mm" is the month number (1-12). You can fool Pine into not asking you by setting this value into the future. And before you ask... PLEASE NOTE that "yy" is _not_ limited to 2 digits; there is _no_ "Millenium Bug" lurking here. December 1999 will be 99.12, and January 2000 will be 100.01. It's amazing how many people have fallen into the trap of assuming that the year figure is just the last two digits of the year; I had done so myself before I saw previous answers on this list and re-read the "localtime" man page! Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On Tue, 13 May 1997, Craig Niederberger wrote: > Hi Pine gurus, > > I'm running Pine 3.95 on Solaris 2.4. I'd like to disable the feature > that asks at the initiation of Pine, 'To save space, do you want to delete > sent-mail-'. Does anyone know how to do that? > > TIA, > Craig > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ craign@uic.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Craig Niederberger MD FACS | Chief, Division of Andrology > University of Illinois at Chicago | Director Urologic Basic Research > Department of Urology M/C 958 | 312-996-2779 Fax: 312-996-1291 > 840 South Wood St, Chicago IL 60612 | http://godot.urol.uic.edu > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 May 1997 01:28:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA27576 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 01:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA16388; Fri, 16 May 1997 01:28:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA19658; Fri, 16 May 1997 01:24:19 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA37746 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 01:22:35 -0700 Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA03205 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 01:22:31 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 16 May 1997 09:19:57 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA11666; Fri, 16 May 1997 09:21:15 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 09:21:14 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Trouble opening my inbox In-Reply-To: <337C0908.29CA@tenet.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Clark Sinclair X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Contact your local/ISP's Help Desk for assistance. They can actually login to your system (we, random people around the world, can't) and see what is going on. When you contact them you should also report any error messages that are being displayed. Simply saying "it doesn't work" isn't going to give them much of a toe-hold on the problem! Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On Fri, 16 May 1997, Clark Sinclair wrote: > I am having trouble opening my inbox. > sinclair@tenet.edu > What should I do? > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 May 1997 03:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA16817 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 03:46:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA11307; Fri, 16 May 1997 03:46:00 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA21550; Fri, 16 May 1997 03:43:22 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA50650 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 03:42:15 -0700 Received: from abaco.coastalnet.com (abaco.coastalnet.com [204.183.40.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA07243 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 03:42:13 -0700 Received: from localhost (joey@localhost) by abaco.coastalnet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA24465; Fri, 16 May 1997 06:40:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 06:40:43 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe Young To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Trouble opening my inbox In-Reply-To: <337C0908.29CA@tenet.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Clark Sinclair X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Forgot to include that if you ask what type file the inbox is using the following command and the response is ascii file then it is hammered: type /var/mail/sinclair The response s/b "mail folder" Joe Young On Fri, 16 May 1997, Clark Sinclair wrote: > I am having trouble opening my inbox. > sinclair@tenet.edu > What should I do? > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA29016 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA21060; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:44:56 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA29970; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:40:11 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA50486 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:39:47 -0700 Received: from artsnet.heinz.cmu.edu (ARTSNET.HEINZ.CMU.EDU [128.2.22.35]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA21229 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:39:44 -0700 Received: from localhost (jsnyder@localhost) by artsnet.heinz.cmu.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA23257 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 10:44:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 10:44:24 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joel Snyder To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: A question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: jsnyder@artsnet.heinz.cmu.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In the sent-mail folder, does an "N" in the column to the left of a message in the listing of messages indicate that the message has been read/opened by its recipient? *Is* there a way to tell if messages have been read/opened or at least received? Thanks! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:55:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA01337 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:55:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA21276; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:55:37 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA16306; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:46:47 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA18882 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:46:30 -0700 Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (root@jefferson.patriot.net [206.151.9.249]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA21826 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 07:46:29 -0700 Received: from adams.patriot.net (adams.patriot.net [206.151.9.7]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA27972; Fri, 16 May 1997 10:44:23 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 10:44:17 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: A question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Joel Snyder X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 16 May 1997, Joel Snyder wrote: >In the sent-mail folder, does an "N" in the column to the left of a >message in the listing of messages indicate that the message has been >read/opened by its recipient? No, it indicates that you haven't looked at the copy in the folder yet. >*Is* there a way to tell if messages have been read/opened or at least >received? No. -- Steve Coile P a t r i o t N e t Systems Engineering scoile@patriot.net Patriot Computer Group (703) 277-7737 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 May 1997 08:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA01264 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 08:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA14835; Fri, 16 May 1997 08:06:43 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA16949; Fri, 16 May 1997 08:02:06 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA18836 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 08:01:42 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA23084 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 08:01:40 -0700 Received: from freelunch.freenet.kiev.ua (root@freelunch.freenet.kiev.ua [194.44.28.250]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA14753 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 08:01:26 -0700 Received: from yacht.UUCP (uuag@localhost) by freelunch.freenet.kiev.ua (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id RAA14977 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 16 May 1997 17:56:33 +0300 (EET DST) Received: by yacht.freenet.kiev.ua (dMail for DOS v1.23, 15Jun94); Fri, 16 May 1997 20:16:53 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 20:16:53 +0200 (UKR) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Igor V.Chernenko" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: ftp email X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Authentication-Warning: freelunch.freenet.kiev.ua: uuag set sender to yacht!yacht.freenet.kiev.ua!igor using -f X-Mailer: dMail [Demos Mail for DOS v1.23] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN open ftp.cac.washington.edu binary get pine/pine.tar.Z quit From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 May 1997 08:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA02066 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 08:12:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA21624; Fri, 16 May 1997 08:12:24 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA23070; Fri, 16 May 1997 08:06:34 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA73630 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 08:06:15 -0700 Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA23475 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 08:06:04 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 16 May 1997 15:50:39 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id PAA23517; Fri, 16 May 1997 15:51:46 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 15:51:45 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: A question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Joel Snyder X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 16 May 1997, Joel Snyder wrote: > In the sent-mail folder, does an "N" in the column to the left of a > message in the listing of messages indicate that the message has been > read/opened by its recipient? No... it is merely indicating that you have not yet read the contents of the copy of the message stored in the folder. > *Is* there a way to tell if messages have been read/opened or at least > received? Not reliably, apart from asking the recipient (eg, ringing them on the phone). Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * > > Thanks! > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:08:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA06891 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA25804; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:08:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA26165; Fri, 16 May 1997 10:32:45 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA26402 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 10:32:06 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA29370 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 10:30:53 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 16 May 97 19:25:14 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA05292 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 17:11:33 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 17:11:28 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 16 May 1997, Steve "Stevers!" Coile wrote: >On Fri, 16 May 1997, Joel Snyder wrote: >>*Is* there a way to tell if messages have been read/opened or at least >>received? >No. Not exactly: As pointed out in numerous discussions of this topic before, there are some servers that acknowledge your mail. You'd have to check that. Otherwise, you can use a mail filter to set up an autoresponder for the other party (provided he's not using the other "OS"). However, this solution is not everybody's cup of tea and should be used as a last resort for really urgent deliveries only. Later, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM3x5Ime8+XvDOeNZAQE2/AgAqFyuQh88Y0hoXGbnI07CYyj/3Y27qJjv YqPXcpy//4OodCK2MsBHpienxrE39gT2cdSJrZGD3dC4L0yJE5RlB4sAQuFUS9Px VBZ1C1Gtg/+PeTQrgMcG1Ln4QyoLTLmi5gryd1YKkcJXt+bnbEFf7hDjI1+ojKd4 h4RvS22/9Loi3EcjfAmxqL0MBOQkJqEGchfxzYKKdduhKXNUGqNLvrGJFTqr+NU/ EczFKa64LUz7cf3Gyq9ycQehVZwR0ZZETZO/jBsYVtLUz5mXxf8FTCKofYa5wGny 6qtkliJw1+1aYYQdP5+MQcfebgp0R1L57EjkDghFGBiA8fWRv3C5Yw== =euxt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:17:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA06820 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA26072; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:17:15 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA13240; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:09:25 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA65574 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:07:54 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA16441 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:07:49 -0700 Received: from Mail.tsum.edu ([206.96.113.11]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id LAA25796 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 11:07:44 -0700 Received: from localhost by Mail.tsum.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/02May96-0502PM) id AA25583; Fri, 16 May 1997 12:49:49 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 12:49:48 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: "Ronald G. Boatner" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ronald G. Boatner" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: problem with JDK and sending mail in Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-646016721-863804988=:24543" X-To: Pine Research Team X-Cc: Sharon Gantt X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-646016721-863804988=:24543 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I loaded a Java Development Kit on our Unix Dec Alpha 4.0 server. It calls for a few environment variables to be set in my .login file. I have a line in my .login file that is somehow conflicting with my ability to send mail from Pine. The line is as follows: setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH /usr/bin/java/lib If I comment this line out, I can send mail from Pine. If I don't comment out this line, when I hit ctrl-x to send my composed message, I get the following error: Stack overflow: pid 22203, proc pine, addr 0x11fdffff0, pc 0x1200f52c8 I'm using Pine 3.96. I'll also attach a copy of my .login file just in case. Any ideas? Thanks. Ronald Boatner - Computer Resources =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= boatne01@tsum.edu http://www.mindspring.com/~ricardo/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= --0-646016721-863804988=:24543 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=".login" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: .login file Iw0KIyAqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioq KioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKg0KIyAqICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgKg0KIyAqICAgIENvcHlyaWdodCAoYykgRGlnaXRhbCBFcXVpcG1lbnQg Q29ycG9yYXRpb24sIDE5OTEsIDE5OTYgICAgKg0KIyAqICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgICAgKg0KIyAqICAgQWxsIFJpZ2h0cyBSZXNlcnZlZC4gIFVucHVibGlz aGVkIHJpZ2h0cyAgcmVzZXJ2ZWQgIHVuZGVyICAgKg0KIyAqICAgdGhlIGNv cHlyaWdodCBsYXdzIG9mIHRoZSBVbml0ZWQgU3RhdGVzLiAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgKg0KIyAqICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgKg0KIyAqICAgVGhl IHNvZnR3YXJlIGNvbnRhaW5lZCBvbiB0aGlzIG1lZGlhICBpcyAgcHJvcHJp ZXRhcnkgIHRvICAgKg0KIyAqICAgYW5kICBlbWJvZGllcyAgdGhlICBjb25m aWRlbnRpYWwgIHRlY2hub2xvZ3kgIG9mICBEaWdpdGFsICAgKg0KIyAqICAg RXF1aXBtZW50IENvcnBvcmF0aW9uLiAgUG9zc2Vzc2lvbiwgdXNlLCAgZHVw bGljYXRpb24gIG9yICAgKg0KIyAqICAgZGlzc2VtaW5hdGlvbiBvZiB0aGUg c29mdHdhcmUgYW5kIG1lZGlhIGlzIGF1dGhvcml6ZWQgb25seSAgKg0KIyAq ICAgcHVyc3VhbnQgdG8gYSB2YWxpZCB3cml0dGVuIGxpY2Vuc2UgZnJvbSBE aWdpdGFsIEVxdWlwbWVudCAgKg0KIyAqICAgQ29ycG9yYXRpb24uICAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgKg0K IyAqICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgKg0KIyAqICAgUkVTVFJJQ1RFRCBSSUdI VFMgTEVHRU5EICAgVXNlLCBkdXBsaWNhdGlvbiwgb3IgZGlzY2xvc3VyZSAg Kg0KIyAqICAgYnkgdGhlIFUuUy4gR292ZXJubWVudCBpcyBzdWJqZWN0IHRv IHJlc3RyaWN0aW9ucyAgYXMgIHNldCAgKg0KIyAqICAgZm9ydGggaW4gU3Vi cGFyYWdyYXBoIChjKSgxKShpaSkgIG9mICBERkFSUyAgMjUyLjIyNy03MDEz LCAgKg0KIyAqICAgb3IgIGluICBGQVIgNTIuMjI3LTE5LCBhcyBhcHBsaWNh YmxlLiAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgKg0KIyAqICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgICAgKg0KIyAqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioq KioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKg0KIw0KIw0KIyBISVNU T1JZDQojDQojIEAoIykkUkNTZmlsZTogLmxvZ2luLHYgJCAkUmV2aXNpb246 IDQuMS43LjMgJCAoREVDKSAkRGF0ZTogMTk5NS8xMC8yNSAyMDowMzo1MiAk DQojDQppZiAoJD9wYXRoKSB0aGVuDQogICAgc2V0IHBhdGg9KCRwYXRoICRI T01FL2JpbikNCmVsc2UNCiAgICBzZXQgcGF0aD0oL3Vzci9iaW4gJEhPTUUv YmluIC4pDQplbmRpZg0KaWYgKCAhICR7P0RUfSApIHRoZW4NCglzdHR5IGRl YyBuZXcNCgl0c2V0IC1JIC1RDQplbmRpZg0Kc2V0IHByb21wdD0iYGhvc3Ru YW1lYD4gIg0Kc2V0IG1haWw9L3Vzci9zcG9vbC9tYWlsLyRVU0VSDQpzZXRl bnYgVEVSTSB2dDEwMA0Kc2V0ZW52IENMQVNTUEFUSCAvdXNyL2Jpbi9qYXZh L2NsYXNzZXMNCnNldGVudiBURVNUVkFSIHRlc3R2YWx1ZQ0Kc2V0ZW52IFRF U1RWQVIyIHRlc3R2YWx1ZTINCiMgc2V0ZW52IExEX0xJQlJBUllfUEFUSCAv dXNyL2Jpbi9qYXZhL2xpYg0KIyBwcmV2aW91cyBsaW5lIGNvbmZsaWN0cyB3 aXRoIHNlbmRpbmcgbWFpbCBpbiBQaW5lDQoNCg0K --0-646016721-863804988=:24543-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 May 1997 14:52:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA10539 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 14:52:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA00730; Fri, 16 May 1997 14:52:49 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA28349; Fri, 16 May 1997 14:48:23 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA31440 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 14:47:59 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA26039 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 14:47:57 -0700 Received: from plasma.umd.edu (plasma.umd.edu [128.8.86.88]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA00637 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 14:47:55 -0700 Received: from gkl.umd.edu (gkl.umd.edu [128.8.86.48]) by plasma.umd.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04552 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 17:47:53 -0400 Received: from localhost (mlnaiman@localhost) by gkl.umd.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA27618 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 17:47:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 17:47:44 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Matthew L. Naiman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Sug (ID VI8GY): pine address book to NETSCAPE format. (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Authentication-Warning: gkl.umd.edu: mlnaiman owned process doing -bs X-Sender: mlnaiman@gkl.umd.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Fwd'g upon suggestion of automated response. Subject: Sug (ID VI8GY): pine address book to NETSCAPE format. DEAR SIRS: I have a user who asked about importing a PINE address book and mailing lists with aliases for our organization to NETSCAPE mail utility on his pc where he would like to do his composing and editing. The PINE list is maintained by one of our secretaries and used in a UNIX networked environment to facilitate it being shared. Do ya'll know of anything that will facilitate or accomodate this person's request. I am currently looking a Major Domo for other features. Thanks, Matt Naiman _________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------- MATT NAIMAN _/ __/_/_/ __/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Institute for Plasma Research _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_ University of Maryland _/ _/ _/ _/ Energy Research Bldg. /bldg #223 _/ _/ _/ _/ College Park, Md. 20742 mlnaiman@glue.umd.edu ph:(301)405-5032 fax:(301)314-9437 _________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 May 1997 15:06:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA05459 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 15:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA00973; Fri, 16 May 1997 15:05:55 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA14320; Fri, 16 May 1997 15:02:31 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA17616 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 15:02:09 -0700 Received: from izta.vw-gedas.com.mx (izta.vw-gedas.com.mx [148.203.151.51]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA27372 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 15:01:55 -0700 Received: from pcdata2.vw-gedas.com.mx (pcdata2.vw-gedas.com.mx [148.203.85.51]) by izta.vw-gedas.com.mx (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA29829 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 17:01:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: by pcdata2.vw-gedas.com.mx with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Fri, 16 May 1997 17:01:42 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 17:01:41 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "DAVILA DELGADO, JUAN JOSE" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Mail Status MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-To: "'pine-info@u.washington.edu'" X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm using pine with the option {pop3server/pop3}INBOX all is working well but I have a problem, when I enter to a new session always I get the "N" status on all messages eventhought I read it. How Can I get the right status? Is there a solution? Thank you. Juan Jose Davila D. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 May 1997 16:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA12476 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 16:57:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA26322; Fri, 16 May 1997 16:57:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA04002; Fri, 16 May 1997 16:53:52 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA23260 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 16:53:36 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA14173 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 16:53:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wSWo6-00038mC; Fri, 16 May 97 16:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 17:18:40 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jago To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: pine-debug# files? In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 15 May 1997, Armond wrote: > > I'm getting all these pine-debug# files in my root directory and I'd like > to know why they are there. PINE does a default level of 4. You can set the debug level to zero, which will prevent PINE from making debug files. The command is "pine -d 0" (that's zero, not the letter "o", in case your terminal emulation makes it confusing). -- {-------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King "The way to do is to be." } { Addr: jago@iglou.com } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~kings/ - MIDI, STATUS, Counter, and more } { http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/%7Ekings/ } {-------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 May 1997 18:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA14123 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 18:04:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA04299; Fri, 16 May 1997 18:04:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA06547; Fri, 16 May 1997 18:00:05 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA17602 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 17:58:43 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA22428 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 17:58:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wSXl2-00038mC; Fri, 16 May 97 17:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 17:20:02 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Lucio Chiappetti To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How come my name isn't left of this ? In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 13 May 1997, Danny Oakes wrote: > Everybody elses posts have their name in the "from" column. > On my post, there is > To: comp.mail.pine I believe it's a feature, done on purpose, to tell clearly which posts (or e-mails) are FOR you and which are FROM you. To have the same look-and-feel for e-mail and news. I like it. The fact your post appears as "To: newsgroup" on YOUR screen does not mean it does on everybody else's screen in the world. They do see it as From: Danny Oakes ! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 May 1997 18:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA09878 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 18:57:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA04941; Fri, 16 May 1997 18:57:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA22607; Fri, 16 May 1997 18:51:31 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA15424 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 18:50:07 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA13641 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 18:50:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wSYbE-00038mC; Fri, 16 May 97 18:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <01bc6263$175bae60$9b786f82@pattton.maine.edu> Date: 17 May 1997 01:40:11 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Jim Patton" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Experience with premail .45 and pine 3.95 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Can anyone provide examples of how to use premail .45 with pine 3.95 or later? I'm principally interested in working with the nym.alias.net nymserver. I keep getting a pipe error when specifying "/usr/local/bin/premail -oem -t -oi" as the sending-filters parameter. I have also tried specifying "/usr/local/bin/premail -oem -t -oi" as the sendmail-path parameter in the .pinerc file. How do the sending-filters and sendmail-path parameters work? In addition, how do you use the rich header, "Chain:"? Do you then specify the number of remailers in this header? How would you use "Sign:" to do a similar thing? Should you be using these at all? Finally, just knowing how to manually use premail without any mailer (Pine or Netscape etc. would be a big help in determining where the errors come from.) Thanks and please respond to patton@eece.maine.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 May 1997 20:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id UAA14599 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 20:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id UAA05818; Fri, 16 May 1997 20:13:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA09365; Fri, 16 May 1997 20:06:26 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA35236 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 20:05:17 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id UAA24375 for ; Fri, 16 May 1997 20:05:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wSZkq-00038mC; Fri, 16 May 97 20:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 20:28:55 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mauro Copelli To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Character fonts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, =09I usually receive messages in Portuguese, and after some changes in=20 the configuration I managed to make Pine write words with special=20 characters (like "liga=E7=F5es", for instance) in an understandable way.=20 However, if words like that come in the subject (which is rather common),= =20 nothing works anymore. Even with the iso-8859 character set configurated,= =20 I get stuff like =3D?iso-8859-1?Q?Eha=3DED?=3D in my messages. Any hint of = how=20 to fix this? I run Pine 3.91 on Unix. =09Best regards,=20 +-----------------------------------------------------------+ | Mauro Copelli | E-mail: | | Onderzoeksgroep Theoretische Fysica | copelli@luc.ac.be | | Universitaire Campus | | | Limburgs Universitair Centrum | Fax: 32-11-268299 | | 3590 Diepenbeek, Belgium | Phone: 32-11-268218 | +-----------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 May 1997 01:10:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA16585 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 01:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA02596; Sat, 17 May 1997 01:10:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA01384; Sat, 17 May 1997 01:01:03 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id AAA65840 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 00:59:49 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id AAA05665 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 00:59:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wSeO6-00038mC; Sat, 17 May 97 00:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 10:55:49 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Barry Landy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine and control-c In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 15 May 1997, William Mahler wrote: :>I have a strange problem with pine. First the configuration, I am running :>pine 3.96 on a Linux box. :> :>The complaint from the users is that control-c does not work. I have tried :>several time to re-create the error on the machines I use all the time. I :>cannot get control-c to fail. I HAVE gotten it to fail on other machines. :>We are running for Telnet either Windows 95 telnet or NCSA telnet 2.6 or :>2.7. Most of these machines are Macs. We have check to be sure contrl-c :>is not configured as a "hot key". It makes no difference. :> :>Do any of you have an idea where else I can look? Usually this is caused by the telnet intercepting control-c for its own use. A work around is to use ESC-ESC-C instead (Pine always interprets ESC-ESC-character as control-character). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 1223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 May 1997 02:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA18224 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 02:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA10195; Sat, 17 May 1997 02:41:17 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA02834; Sat, 17 May 1997 02:32:56 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA17538 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 02:31:47 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA05775 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 02:31:46 -0700 Received: from mserv.rug.ac.be (mserv.rug.ac.be [157.193.40.37]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id CAA10089 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 02:31:44 -0700 Received: from eduserv2.rug.ac.be by mserv.rug.ac.be with SMTP id AA01580 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 17 May 1997 11:31:42 +0200 Received: from localhost by eduserv2.rug.ac.be (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA03818; Sat, 17 May 1997 11:31:41 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 11:31:41 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Adamu Nchama Baba-kutigi To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: ACESS TO E-MAIL & INTERNET Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have just been introduced to e-mail and very impressed about it. I will be going back to my country(Nigeria) by June 1. I will like to know the processes I will follow to get access to e-mail & Internet. How will an institution like University get registered for e-mail & Internet? All the information is as regard to Nigeria. This informations needs urgent attention. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 May 1997 04:40:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA19757 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 04:40:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA11755; Sat, 17 May 1997 04:40:20 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA19124; Sat, 17 May 1997 04:35:33 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA55514 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 04:32:17 -0700 Received: from mail.compulink.co.uk (mail.compulink.co.uk [194.153.0.20]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA03255 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 04:32:12 -0700 Received: from mayday.compulink.co.uk (root@mayday.compulink.co.uk [194.153.8.241]) by mail.compulink.co.uk (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA09683 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 12:31:47 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 1063 invoked by uid 400); 17 May 1997 08:53:03 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 09:52:44 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robert de Bath" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine cannot read MIME error messages In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Hynek Med X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-URL: http://www.cix.co.uk/~mayday X-Dev86-Version: 0.12.1 X-Alternate-address: User rdebath on machine cix.co.uk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The mailbox you enclosed contained a broken MIME message. The Content-Type header had a mime multipart/mixed identifier but didn't have the required 'boundry=' parameter. In addition the first part of the message (before the first boundry line) is ignored by true MIME clients, this appears to be useful text in this message so it's in the wrong place. The problem isn't with Pine but is with the software that created the message. Having said that, it would be nice if Pine could notice the fact it's broken and do something (Like pretending it's not a MIME message) ::: Internet rule 2: Paranoia Rules! -- Rob. (Robert de Bath ) On Thu, 15 May 1997, Hynek Med wrote: > Hi, > this is about a third time I report this bug.. Noone seems to care. :-( > > As a listowner, I get lots of MIME error messages from the listserv, like > the one I inculde. The trouble is, that pine cannot display them, it says > just something like: > > PINE 3.96 MESSAGE TEXT ll Msg 1 of 1 ALL > > Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 19:56:45 +0200 > From: tolkien@pub.vse.cz > To: xmedh02@alfa.vse.cz > Subject: Error Condition Re: Mail System Error - Returned Mail > > And that's all. There's probably some kind of bug in the multiple MIME > messages parsing.. When you export the message I have attached to a > folder, run a pine -f on it, you should get the effect I describe, though > the attachement is visible when just viewed. This happens to almost all > MIME error messages from the mailer daemon. (We use listproc 6.0c and > sendmail 8.8.5/IDA-1.6.) > > Hynek > > > -- > Hynek Med, xmedh02@alfa.vse.cz > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 May 1997 04:54:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA19648 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 04:54:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA05270; Sat, 17 May 1997 04:54:19 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA03982; Sat, 17 May 1997 04:47:02 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA55524 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 04:45:39 -0700 Received: from abaco.coastalnet.com (abaco.coastalnet.com [204.183.40.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA15937 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 04:45:38 -0700 Received: from localhost (joey@localhost) by abaco.coastalnet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA20466; Sat, 17 May 1997 07:43:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 07:43:27 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe Young To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: pine-debug# files? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jago X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Can the "pine -d 0" be placed in the .pinerc file or must it be done each time pine is accessed. Could not find where default was set in .pinerc and would like to have it automated instead of having to doit every time I access. Joe Young New Bern, NC On Fri, 16 May 1997, Jago wrote: > On Thu, 15 May 1997, Armond wrote: > > > > > I'm getting all these pine-debug# files in my root directory and I'd like > > to know why they are there. > > PINE does a default level of 4. You can set the debug level to zero, > which will prevent PINE from making debug files. The command is "pine -d > 0" (that's zero, not the letter "o", in case your terminal emulation makes > it confusing). > > -- > {-------------------------------------------------------------------------} > { Name: Steven C. King "The way to do is to be." } > { Addr: jago@iglou.com } > { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~kings/ - MIDI, STATUS, Counter, and more } > { http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/%7Ekings/ } > {-------------------------------------------------------------------------} > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 May 1997 07:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA17527 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 07:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA13575; Sat, 17 May 1997 07:47:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA06608; Sat, 17 May 1997 07:42:18 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA27462 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 07:40:55 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA20666 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 07:40:53 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 17 May 97 16:40:36 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA03121; Sat, 17 May 1997 12:10:25 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 12:10:18 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: ACESS TO E-MAIL & INTERNET In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Adamu Nchama Baba-kutigi X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sat, 17 May 1997, Adamu Nchama Baba-kutigi wrote: Hi, Adamu, > I have just been introduced to e-mail and very impressed about it. I >will be going back to my country(Nigeria) by June 1. I will like to know >the processes I will follow to get access to e-mail & Internet. Ok, while you still have access to the internet, start your web-browser and go to http://www.yahoo.com and check for the internet section. There are *many* good documents. In particular, look for anything that says email and faq (frequently asked questions) or tutorial. > How will an institution like University get registered for e-mail >& Internet? Basically, you only need one *big* computer, a phone line, and a few terminals. With the big computer, make a connection to a so-called internet servive provider (ISP), who is permanently on-line. That's the simplest solution I could think of (I've no idea how things look like in Nigeria, so I'll assume we're not talking a million $ a month for a *real* solution). With this setup, you could give about fifty students on-line access without having to pay a penny for the software. This could all be done with Linux, the free u*ix for almost all computer platforms (if anyone out there's running Linux on an Alpha, I'd like to talk to him, pls :-) ). If you gave your students email access only, the following setup would do: 1. Server: $5000 2. Terminals (used 386ers) $250 apiece 3. Networking stuff $2500 That'd be all for a start. :-) > All the information is as regard to Nigeria. Hmmm, I hope I didn't fall into some information trap, but from what I've seen on tv, Nigeria has certain smaller deficits as far as tele-communication goes :-) if that's what you mean. The above system could be run by sending email once an hour or so. So that shouldn't be a problem either. >This informations needs urgent attention. Hope this helps. There are other, far more competent people than I on this list, and on the net in general. Check the related newsgroups for further information. alt.education.email-project Sounds like something... There is a German project that roughly translates "get those schools on the net". They've written some very decent software for schools. I'm sure something similar exists in other countries to. Check for that, too --- why re-invent the wheel, right? HTH, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha | Bonner Talweg 56 | Tel: +49 228 22217-8 Political Science Dept. | 53113 Bonn | Fax: +49 228 22217-9 Bonn University | Germany | email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM32EDGe8+XvDOeNZAQH6lwf+PouLOPl8RE4UG4bgtYnVph5J8cfxaddU kl5krOtRR6j/un1+ROk52meMXOJ36m5PATlxKAZzRpqTohPKza9oDDhvXqWh7+Is X40GiMh1C7g7Uxg+qOGc1bKULnBFlsmT/5PJyo7tZAuvbysld5yLB6TmFCG9GGvu 3hY/re3jUhUfCdstPIzdPu+VOK9XbOFOrciINr+PdtEzDX/T0XVHdsm6lsT1YGAH SApRe6mrHZcN0hfX0Ntcv9baI9v+1xqQ8qvWdl98c71YigDmgv+OfQm/Ky3MMT9b I8LUIr0Mu2jb7hF2eKUEI9DZUbzZXjxIgmPT+MIPEudqk/9wdvY7lw== =zhgz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 May 1997 09:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA21557 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 09:29:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA08205; Sat, 17 May 1997 09:29:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA09147; Sat, 17 May 1997 09:24:16 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA62530 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 09:23:35 -0700 Received: from vse.vse.cz (vse.vse.cz [146.102.16.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA17476 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 09:23:31 -0700 Received: from manes.vse.cz (manes.vse.cz [146.102.56.1]) by vse.vse.cz with SMTP id LAA15141 (8.8.5/IDA-1.6 for ); Sat, 17 May 1997 11:37:13 GMT Received: from vse.vse.cz by manes.vse.cz with SMTP id AA15054 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@u.washington.edu); Sat, 17 May 1997 13:37:12 +0200 Received: from manes.vse.cz (manes.vse.cz [146.102.56.1]) by vse.vse.cz with SMTP id LAA15131 (8.8.5/IDA-1.6); Sat, 17 May 1997 11:37:04 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 13:37:04 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Hynek Med To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine cannot read MIME error messages In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robert de Bath X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 17 May 1997, Robert de Bath wrote: > The mailbox you enclosed contained a broken MIME message. The Content-Type > header had a mime multipart/mixed identifier but didn't have the required > 'boundry=' parameter. In addition the first part of the message (before the > first boundry line) is ignored by true MIME clients, this appears to be > useful text in this message so it's in the wrong place. > > The problem isn't with Pine but is with the software that created the message. The trouble is, that many mailer daemons produce these - I guess a vast majority of those that use MIME, at least from what I get.. :-( > Having said that, it would be nice if Pine could notice the fact it's > broken and do something (Like pretending it's not a MIME message) They say elm/metamail display these messages with a warning. I would really like to see pine doing the same thing.. Hynek -- Hynek Med, xmedh02@manes.vse.cz From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 May 1997 11:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA21400 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 11:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA15721; Sat, 17 May 1997 11:01:07 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA12241; Sat, 17 May 1997 10:55:59 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA27476 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 10:55:36 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA28353 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 10:55:35 -0700 Received: from dispatch.ironhorse.com (root@[204.145.167.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA09144 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 10:55:33 -0700 Received: from theta.asterion.com (root@asterion.com [199.217.74.97]) by dispatch.ironhorse.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA23727 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 10:55:31 -0700 Received: from beta.asterion.com (beta.asterion.com [80.1.1.10]) by theta.asterion.com (8.6.9/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA01102 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 09:55:24 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 10:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ed DeRivas To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: pdf attachments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I use an xterm to access my unix box. I open an xterm window to use pine. Please let me know how I can configure pine to access acroread to read pdf attachments. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 May 1997 12:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA22756 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 12:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA10430; Sat, 17 May 1997 12:53:25 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA58720; Sat, 17 May 1997 12:48:29 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA49370 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 12:47:58 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA02650 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 12:47:56 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 17 May 97 21:47:41 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA03928; Sat, 17 May 1997 21:41:05 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 21:40:57 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: pdf attachments In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ed DeRivas X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sat, 17 May 1997, Ed DeRivas wrote: >I use an xterm to access my unix box. I open an xterm window to use pine. >Please let me know how I can configure pine to access acroread to read >pdf attachments. Ok, this has nothing to with pine as such. You need a package called metamail. The metamail program reads a "mailcap" file to determine how to display non-text at the local site. Every mail- reading interface needs to call metamail whenever non-text mail is being viewed, unless the mail is of a type that is already understood by the mail-reading program. Metamail consults the mailcap file(s) to determine what program to use to show the message to the user. Try saying "which metamail" to check if you have it. If so, gain root permissions and edit /etc/mailcap. I haven't checked this, but something like the following should do the trick: application/pdf ; xpdf %s; ; test=test -n "$DISPLAY" HTH, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM34Jy2e8+XvDOeNZAQGIvQgAgNXUmqr8lmGjgscI0kIanteS6x7U6kNT lXI4Jp+Du67ZkdzmeVNjJOz9p/pHUjVfLyibJzhGA52CBeQ1aXbomU5mU+W5ubPt t+mc1MkrDl9ry8Qjjv4AgUjMWVWjRRXDHxV1OwRJ4YhH9gwQEYnzK7iiDYX3j8xJ tRP0yOgSJ8FZQszcBK3QOfW83WuHrYQ73CJE0cTw1PlV5llJdq+1p1t4gQCvbB4C iIYff3vEt9jVfv+j2mS6NQ7YGb7NLFmtbsUGy4JngH1jnm3Roantm9a1/Kt4JEo/ DVnzObPKHJY38RISBK4XXA4VDZzlmKxMPsYah9KGQzVkGtabZeS+FQ== =3tHr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 May 1997 17:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA24201 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 17:55:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA20009; Sat, 17 May 1997 17:55:00 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA21217; Sat, 17 May 1997 17:52:42 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA59022 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 17:52:24 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA07669 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 17:52:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wSuB7-00038jC; Sat, 17 May 97 17:50 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 13:28:35 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Heinrich 'Hank' Goetzger" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How do you keep a copy of forwarded mail? In-Reply-To: <337BDE72.9CD@pop.pitt.edu> References: <337BDE72.9CD@pop.pitt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Greetings Augustine, On Thu, 15 May 1997, Augustine Paz wrote: >I have set up a .forward file on my pine account and it works >perfectly. I've been told it is also possible to configure the .forward >file so that a copy of the forwarded mail is left on the original >account. If that is so, how is it done? I've been looking through the >"Pine Discussion Forum" archive and FAQs but haven't had any success. To bad, that there is no hint in the FAQ or in the area around, on the other hand, this isn't a pine-only related problem. You don't need to run pine as your mailer to use this behavior of your mail. if you want to keep a local copy of your mail, just add your local account-name and a heading slash in your .forward-file. i.e.: \lacst20, your_other@mail.somewhere.else Hope this works. >Also, if I want the mail to be forwarded to two (2) account do I >separate the respective addresses which a comma, semi-colon or simply >put the addresses on separate lines? A comma as a seperator for more than one address should work. Put them in one line, like the example above. >Thanks for all the help in the past from this list, and I hope it will >continue into the future. > >peace, >tino >lacst20@pop.pitt.edu Take care Heinrich ,~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~. | name: Heinrich Goetzger home: Streets of San Francisco... | | Everytime I Find The Meaning Of Life, They Change It. | `~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 May 1997 23:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA26775 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 23:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA17029; Sat, 17 May 1997 23:21:44 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA13411; Sat, 17 May 1997 23:18:39 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA55548 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 23:18:18 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA18457 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 23:18:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wSzGL-00038jC; Sat, 17 May 97 23:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <337F2454.366E@bgumail.bgu.ac.il> Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 08:46:28 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ran Chermesh To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Avoid removal of messages from server Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I've installed Pine ver. 3.96 on my pc, running win 3.11. For some reason, when pine copies messages from our mail server to the local disk it removes it from the server. Can anything be done about it? I checked the configuration setup, but failed to located a relevan option. Ran -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _ _ _ _______ ______ _______ ___ ______ | | | | | |. __ |____ |. __ | |_ |____ | Dr. Ran Chermesh | | | | | || | | | | || | | | | | | | Behavioral Sciences | |/ /_/ / | | _| | | || | | | | | | | Ben-Gurion University |_______/ |_||___| |_||_| |_| | | |_| Beer-Sheva Israel 84105 |_| Internet:chermesh@bgumail.bgu.ac.il Phone:(972)-6747-2057 Fax:(972)-7-6472-932 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Homepage: http://www.bgu.ac.il/beh/ran.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A conclusion is a place where a person got tired of thinking From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 May 1997 23:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA07876 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 23:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA17355; Sat, 17 May 1997 23:52:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA27818; Sat, 17 May 1997 23:48:59 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA29186 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 23:48:40 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA21854 for ; Sat, 17 May 1997 23:48:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wSzkD-00038jC; Sat, 17 May 97 23:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 16 May 1997 19:18:00 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Character fonts References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN copelli@luc.ac.be (Mauro Copelli): > I usually receive messages in Portuguese, and after some changes in > the configuration I managed to make Pine write words with special > characters (like "ligações", for instance) in an understandable way. > However, if words like that come in the subject (which is rather common), > nothing works anymore. Even with the iso-8859 character set configurated, > I get stuff like =?iso-8859-1?Q?Eha=ED?= in my messages. > Any hint of how to fix this? Looks like these characters will need "iso-8859-1" - not "iso-8859". ;-) > I run Pine 3.91 on Unix. Upgrade! Pine-3.96 has been out for a while! Sven -- Sven Guckes guckes@math.fu-berlin.de [960301] | Latest version: Pine-3.96 PINE Info Pages: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/pine/ PINE Home Page : http://www.washington.edu/pine/ PINE Email List: Pine Information From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 May 1997 01:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA27266 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 01:33:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA24737; Sun, 18 May 1997 01:33:33 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA29868; Sun, 18 May 1997 01:30:35 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA55546 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 01:30:14 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA18468 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 01:30:13 -0700 Received: from bom2.vsnl.net.in (bom2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA18364 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 01:30:08 -0700 Received: from localhost (askayind@localhost) by bom2.vsnl.net.in (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA10078; Sun, 18 May 1997 14:01:06 +0530 (IST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 14:01:06 +0530 (GMT+5:30) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "MR. KHETAN SURESH" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: qury MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: vikas@berlioz.nsc.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN sir while printing the message we get this message " xon char received. set "preserve - start - stop" feature in setup/ config." please help. thanks, rajiv From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 May 1997 03:03:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA03065 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 03:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA25648; Sun, 18 May 1997 03:03:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA16701; Sun, 18 May 1997 03:00:42 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA59622 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 03:00:10 -0700 Received: from shivax.cac.washington.edu (shivax.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.4]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA28728 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 03:00:08 -0700 Received: (from skramer@localhost) by shivax.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) id DAA29985 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 18 May 1997 03:00:07 -0700 Message-Id: <199705181000.DAA29985@shivax.cac.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 03:00:07 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: pine-robot@docserver.cac.washington.edu To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: WHERE TO FIND INFORMATION ABOUT PINE X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is being sent to this mailing list weekly in order to aid readers in finding information about Pine. Before sending questions to the mailing list -- which is mirrored in the newsgroup comp.mail.pine -- please consult these resources: The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive help. Additional information, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, Questions & Answers, where to obtain the Pine software, what tools are available to perform tasks that Pine itself does not, and more, can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form. - The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[] The messages from this mailing list/newsgroup are archived. These archives can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ (includes a searchable index of all archived messages, and information on how to subscribe to this mailing list) - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/pine-info/. - From within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[] If you have a question about Pine, chances are it has been asked before and you can find the answer either through the searchable index of past messages, or among the "Questions & Answers" at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/ or ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/QandA.txt If you need personal assistance with using or configuring Pine, contact the technical support staff or computer help desk of your Internet Service Provider, school, university, employer, ... -- whichever organization provided you with the email account on which you are using, or planning on using, Pine. Because system functions and configuration can vary from site to site, they are best qualified to assist you. (Due to the large number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington cannot provide individual support services to Pine users at other organizations.) Sun May 18 03:00:06 PDT 1997 ----------------------------------- Pine development and support team University of Washington Computing & Communications ----------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 May 1997 04:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA29111 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 04:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA26856; Sun, 18 May 1997 04:34:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA17682; Sun, 18 May 1997 04:32:29 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA55380 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 04:32:18 -0700 Received: from mail.compulink.co.uk (mail.compulink.co.uk [194.153.0.20]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA23107 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 04:32:15 -0700 Received: from mayday.compulink.co.uk (root@mayday.compulink.co.uk [194.153.8.241]) by mail.compulink.co.uk (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA11003 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 12:31:56 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 13140 invoked by uid 400); 18 May 1997 10:11:42 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 11:11:23 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: Robert de Bath Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robert de Bath" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine cannot read MIME error messages In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Hynek Med X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-URL: http://www.cix.co.uk/~mayday X-Dev86-Version: 0.12.1 X-Alternate-address: User rdebath on machine cix.co.uk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 17 May 1997, Hynek Med wrote: > On Sat, 17 May 1997, Robert de Bath wrote: > > > The problem isn't with Pine but is with the software that created the message. > > The trouble is, that many mailer daemons produce these - I guess a vast > majority of those that use MIME, at least from what I get.. :-( Hmmm, I haven't come across the problem myself, but until (if) they make the change in Pine I expect your best bet would be to automatically filter the error messages into a seperate mbox with procmail and have formail delete the MIME-version header from these messages. I think you might be able to just do the delete on the broken messages too with some more fancy rules. PROCMAIL Source: ftp://ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/packages/procmail/ -- Rob. (Robert de Bath ) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 May 1997 05:12:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA29680 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 05:12:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA27237; Sun, 18 May 1997 05:12:30 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA01875; Sun, 18 May 1997 05:09:28 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA25444 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 05:09:15 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id FAA23877 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 05:09:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wT4la-00038jC; Sun, 18 May 97 05:08 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5lkvmq$6gj$1@lawrenceville.mccc.edu> Date: 17 May 1997 19:08:10 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: pjh@mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Breaking Out Of Pine - A No-no!! X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Here is a response to a question I posted. Is he correct in saying that "It takes very little effort (you only need to barely know what you're doing) to get directly to shell from within Pine."? I think I barely know what I'm doing, yet I couldn't get a shell prompt in about 10 minutes of playing around. Thanks, Pete =========== On Fri, 16 May 1997, Pete Holsberg wrote: > I will have two classes of users: one that is permitted > to use PPP or shell account, and another that is > restricted to shell account only (actually, their shell > will be the "pine" email program). If necessary, the > accounts for the latter could be on a different machine > from those of the former. This is completely unrelated to your question or Livingston products, but I just thought I'd point out that if your purpose of giving your users a shell of "pine" is intended to secure these users against full shell access, you're in for a nasty surprise. It takes very little effort (you only need to barely know what you're doing) to get directly to shell from within Pine. A nifty thought, however, would be to modify pine to chroot to the user's home directory, and have their mail delivered to a mailbox in the home directory (as with qmail, for instance). Can anyone see why that wouldn't work, offhand? (ie. you could probably make it to some semblance of a shell prompt, but you wouldn't be able to do much...) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 May 1997 08:44:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA28908 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 08:44:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA29390; Sun, 18 May 1997 08:44:50 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA04790; Sun, 18 May 1997 08:41:15 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA61700 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 08:40:01 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA05159 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 08:39:59 -0700 Received: from giascl01.vsnl.net.in (giascl01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.9.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA29343 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 08:39:54 -0700 Received: by giascl01.vsnl.net.in; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/27Apr96-1140PM) id AA17910; Sun, 18 May 1997 21:10:46 +0500 Message-Id: <9705181610.AA17910@giascl01.vsnl.net.in> Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 21:10:46 +0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: anindya@giascl01.vsnl.net.in To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: http://www1.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/95.10/msg00176.html X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: anindya@giascl01.vsnl.net.in X-Url: http://www1.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/95.10/msg00176.html X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.7 X-Personal_Name: anindya nandy X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > > This is one of many messages in the archives of > The Pine Discussion Forum > _________________________________________________________________ > > [Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread > Index] > > How do I set up Pine to use another NNTP server? > _________________________________________________________________ > > * To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > * Subject: How do I set up Pine to use another NNTP server? > * From: simon@epsilon.win-uk.net (Simon Ho) > * Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 13:48:21 GMT > * Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > _________________________________________________________________ > >Hi > >This may not be exactly to do with mail but I use Pine to read mail >and news on a Unix account with my local University. The problem with >my site is that they restrict the number and types of newsgroups to >those solely to do academic and research purpose. > >I have an acccount with an ISP with full newsgroup coverage but would >like to use their NNTP server to read them from Uni. > >I've tried changing the NNTP server in the config but I can't get >anything or else it defaults to the uni NNTP server. > >Is there a way to pass along my user details to the other NNTP server >so that I can use Pine to read news with that server. > >thanks > >rgds > >Simon > > >Ps please email me at this address. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > [Index] [Thread] > > [Pine Home] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 May 1997 08:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA29674 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 08:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA22976; Sun, 18 May 1997 08:53:55 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA04900; Sun, 18 May 1997 08:51:02 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA25430 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 08:49:49 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA02688 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 08:49:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wT89V-00038jC; Sun, 18 May 97 08:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5ln78i$ant$2@nntp1.ba.best.com> Date: 18 May 1997 15:29:22 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: blackman@best.com (Diane Blackman) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Confused - Postpone Will then Won't References: <5lilj7$rel$1@nntp1.ba.best.com> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN problem resolved with change stty discard^@ Diane Blackman (blackman@best.com) wrote: : I'm very confused about what is going on with ^O (postpone). Sometimes : it functions and sometimes it doesn't. At first I thought it was as From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 May 1997 14:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA00116 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 14:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA26308; Sun, 18 May 1997 14:06:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA28883; Sun, 18 May 1997 14:01:06 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA18758 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 14:00:40 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA17753 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 14:00:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wTD0a-00038jC; Sun, 18 May 97 13:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <01bc63b6$1c15f510$118672cf@ntwww> Date: 18 May 1997 18:06:57 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Joe Emenaker" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine takes a LONG time to send a message X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm using Debian Linux with smail as my MTA. Lately, Pine has been taking longer and longer to send messages. When I go to send, it merely says "Sending | 100%" at the bottom and it just stays there for about 3-4 minutes. It seems to be taking longer each time, too. I've checked my "sent-mail" folder and that's only 100K, so it's not spending that time trying to append the message to the end of some huge file. In fact, there doesn't seem to any out-of-the-ordinary disk activity at all. I've also got "enable-background-sending" turned on in the options. So what gives? - Joe From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 May 1997 23:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA04429 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 23:37:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA02474; Sun, 18 May 1997 23:37:40 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA56040; Sun, 18 May 1997 23:33:31 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA27456 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 23:32:15 -0700 Received: from mail.compulink.co.uk (mail.compulink.co.uk [194.153.0.20]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA09083 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 23:32:12 -0700 Received: from mayday.compulink.co.uk (root@mayday.compulink.co.uk [194.153.8.241]) by mail.compulink.co.uk (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id HAA11786 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 07:31:56 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 5207 invoked by uid 400); 19 May 1997 06:25:16 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 07:24:57 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robert de Bath" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Breaking Out Of Pine - A No-no!! In-Reply-To: <5lkvmq$6gj$1@lawrenceville.mccc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pete Holsberg X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-URL: http://www.cix.co.uk/~mayday X-Dev86-Version: 0.12.1 X-Alternate-address: User rdebath on machine cix.co.uk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Took about 15 seconds ... 1) in 'M-S-C' set enable-unix-pipe-command 2) E-xit and Y-es to save. 3) I-ndex to get message list 4) |-pipe-message to "sh -i < /dev/tty" setting Ctrl-Y for uncaptured. 5) Use the shell :-) -- Rob. (Robert de Bath ) On 17 May 1997, Pete Holsberg wrote: > Here is a response to a question I posted. Is he correct in > saying that "It takes very little effort (you only need to > barely know what you're doing) to get directly to shell > from within Pine."? > > I think I barely know what I'm doing, yet I couldn't get a > shell prompt in about 10 minutes of playing around. > > Thanks, > Pete > > =========== > > On Fri, 16 May 1997, Pete Holsberg wrote: > > I will have two classes of users: one that is permitted > > to use PPP or shell account, and another that is > > restricted to shell account only (actually, their shell > > will be the "pine" email program). If necessary, the > > accounts for the latter could be on a different machine > > from those of the former. > > This is completely unrelated to your question or Livingston > products, but I just thought I'd point out that if your > purpose of giving your users a shell of "pine" is intended > to secure these users against full shell access, you're in > for a nasty surprise. It takes very little effort (you only > need to barely know what you're doing) to get directly to > shell from within Pine. > > A nifty thought, however, would be to modify pine to chroot > to the user's home directory, and have their mail delivered > to a mailbox in the home directory (as with qmail, for > instance). Can anyone see why that wouldn't work, offhand? > (ie. you could probably make it to some semblance of a > shell prompt, but you wouldn't be able to do much...) > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 May 1997 01:22:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA05310 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 01:22:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA03659; Mon, 19 May 1997 01:22:40 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA14077; Mon, 19 May 1997 01:19:53 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA27288 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 01:19:33 -0700 Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA16511 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 01:19:27 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 19 May 1997 09:17:51 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA29115; Mon, 19 May 1997 09:19:13 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 09:19:11 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Breaking Out Of Pine - A No-no!! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robert de Bath X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN You're assuming that the System Manager hasn't disabled the option of turning on the "enable-unix-pipe-command" option. If people are wanting to use Pine in a restricted environment they should look not just at setting up a systemwide default configuration file, but also a systemwide "fixed" configuration file. This prevents options listed in it from being altered/overridden by users. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On Mon, 19 May 1997, Robert de Bath wrote: > Took about 15 seconds ... > > 1) in 'M-S-C' set enable-unix-pipe-command > 2) E-xit and Y-es to save. > 3) I-ndex to get message list > 4) |-pipe-message to "sh -i < /dev/tty" setting Ctrl-Y for uncaptured. > 5) Use the shell :-) > > -- > Rob. (Robert de Bath ) > > On 17 May 1997, Pete Holsberg wrote: > > > Here is a response to a question I posted. Is he correct in > > saying that "It takes very little effort (you only need to > > barely know what you're doing) to get directly to shell > > from within Pine."? > > > > I think I barely know what I'm doing, yet I couldn't get a > > shell prompt in about 10 minutes of playing around. > > > > Thanks, > > Pete > > > > =========== > > > > On Fri, 16 May 1997, Pete Holsberg wrote: > > > I will have two classes of users: one that is permitted > > > to use PPP or shell account, and another that is > > > restricted to shell account only (actually, their shell > > > will be the "pine" email program). If necessary, the > > > accounts for the latter could be on a different machine > > > from those of the former. > > > > This is completely unrelated to your question or Livingston > > products, but I just thought I'd point out that if your > > purpose of giving your users a shell of "pine" is intended > > to secure these users against full shell access, you're in > > for a nasty surprise. It takes very little effort (you only > > need to barely know what you're doing) to get directly to > > shell from within Pine. > > > > A nifty thought, however, would be to modify pine to chroot > > to the user's home directory, and have their mail delivered > > to a mailbox in the home directory (as with qmail, for > > instance). Can anyone see why that wouldn't work, offhand? > > (ie. you could probably make it to some semblance of a > > shell prompt, but you wouldn't be able to do much...) > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 May 1997 03:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA06024 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 03:44:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA05141; Mon, 19 May 1997 03:44:00 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA29358; Mon, 19 May 1997 03:38:50 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA56440 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 03:38:17 -0700 Received: from abaco.coastalnet.com (abaco.coastalnet.com [204.183.40.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA14633 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 03:38:16 -0700 Received: from localhost (joey@localhost) by abaco.coastalnet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA02753; Mon, 19 May 1997 06:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 06:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe Young To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Breaking Out Of Pine - A No-no!! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Brudenell X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On my ISP we have text accounts that allow shell access and also a PPP account can telnet into and get shell access. Works well for folks who have the own personal home pages so they can create, edit and change their home pages. No having been a part of any other ISP's and having been with AT&T, until I retired, and where shell accounts were the norm. I guess what I am saying, even though I forgot the original question, why would the user want to break out of pine, or is it they just don't have access to a shell access? The second comment I have is about the admin preventing changing of your .pinerc. I have noticed that even though I presently own my .pinerc, at times it reverts to root ownership, maybe through upgrade or the like, and then I again can't change the options and have to go change it back. Certain things if changed incorrectly will cause many many core dumps when you access pine, ie: changing the prune option to 00.0 instead of 99.9. My 2 cents. Joe Young New Bern, N.C. On Mon, 19 May 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > You're assuming that the System Manager hasn't disabled the option of > turning on the "enable-unix-pipe-command" option. If people are wanting > to use Pine in a restricted environment they should look not just at > setting up a systemwide default configuration file, but also a systemwide > "fixed" configuration file. This prevents options listed in it from being > altered/overridden by users. > > Cheers, > > -- > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * > > On Mon, 19 May 1997, Robert de Bath wrote: > > > Took about 15 seconds ... > > > > 1) in 'M-S-C' set enable-unix-pipe-command > > 2) E-xit and Y-es to save. > > 3) I-ndex to get message list > > 4) |-pipe-message to "sh -i < /dev/tty" setting Ctrl-Y for uncaptured. > > 5) Use the shell :-) > > > > -- > > Rob. (Robert de Bath ) > > > > On 17 May 1997, Pete Holsberg wrote: > > > > > Here is a response to a question I posted. Is he correct in > > > saying that "It takes very little effort (you only need to > > > barely know what you're doing) to get directly to shell > > > from within Pine."? > > > > > > I think I barely know what I'm doing, yet I couldn't get a > > > shell prompt in about 10 minutes of playing around. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Pete > > > > > > =========== > > > > > > On Fri, 16 May 1997, Pete Holsberg wrote: > > > > I will have two classes of users: one that is permitted > > > > to use PPP or shell account, and another that is > > > > restricted to shell account only (actually, their shell > > > > will be the "pine" email program). If necessary, the > > > > accounts for the latter could be on a different machine > > > > from those of the former. > > > > > > This is completely unrelated to your question or Livingston > > > products, but I just thought I'd point out that if your > > > purpose of giving your users a shell of "pine" is intended > > > to secure these users against full shell access, you're in > > > for a nasty surprise. It takes very little effort (you only > > > need to barely know what you're doing) to get directly to > > > shell from within Pine. > > > > > > A nifty thought, however, would be to modify pine to chroot > > > to the user's home directory, and have their mail delivered > > > to a mailbox in the home directory (as with qmail, for > > > instance). Can anyone see why that wouldn't work, offhand? > > > (ie. you could probably make it to some semblance of a > > > shell prompt, but you wouldn't be able to do much...) > > > > > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 May 1997 10:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA13513 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 10:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA19385; Mon, 19 May 1997 10:51:22 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA09283; Mon, 19 May 1997 10:45:22 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA46478 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 10:44:47 -0700 Received: from happy.com (happy.com [38.241.225.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA23304 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 10:44:08 -0700 Received: by gateway.happy.com id <18433>; Mon, 19 May 1997 13:31:04 -0400 Message-Id: <97May19.133104edt.18433@gateway.happy.com> Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 13:42:26 -0400 Reply-To: SandraB Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: SandraB To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: qury In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "MR. KHETAN SURESH" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From your Main Menu, pick "Setup" then "Config". Look for the feature "Preserve-start-stop-characters". Put an "X" in the [] box to mark it and then Exit, saving this feature setting. We've had to do this for terminals, but this is the first I've heard of for printing. Hope that helps. Sandra ************************************************************************ Sandra Brust sandrab@happy.com Happy Harry's, Inc. (302) 366-0335 ext. 224 People often find it easier to be result of the past than a cause of the future. On Sun, 18 May 1997, MR. KHETAN SURESH wrote: > > sir > while printing the message we get this message > " xon char received. set "preserve - start - stop" feature in setup/ > config." > please help. > > thanks, > rajiv From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 May 1997 15:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA20019 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 15:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA19302; Mon, 19 May 1997 15:35:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA12251; Mon, 19 May 1997 15:32:33 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA37034 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 15:32:05 -0700 Received: from mail.compulink.co.uk (mail.compulink.co.uk [194.153.0.20]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA17287 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 15:31:59 -0700 Received: from mayday.compulink.co.uk (root@mayday.compulink.co.uk [194.153.8.241]) by mail.compulink.co.uk (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA10193 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 23:31:42 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 7553 invoked by uid 400); 19 May 1997 18:57:38 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 19:57:19 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robert de Bath" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Breaking Out Of Pine - A No-no!! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Brudenell X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-URL: http://www.cix.co.uk/~mayday X-Dev86-Version: 0.12.1 X-Alternate-address: User rdebath on machine cix.co.uk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 19 May 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > You're assuming that the System Manager hasn't disabled the option of > turning on the "enable-unix-pipe-command" option. If people are wanting > to use Pine in a restricted environment they should look not just at > setting up a systemwide default configuration file, but also a systemwide > "fixed" configuration file. This prevents options listed in it from being > altered/overridden by users. And fixed the alternate-editor, the speller, image-viewer, upload and download commands, display filters, sending filters, enable-suspend, subshell for suspend, saving files and adding folders is probably dangerous (care with enable-dot-files, enable-dot-folders), changing mailcap, even allowing the user to change the file name of the address book or .signature file can allow them to overwrite .profile or .pinerc (for sendmail-path=) It may well be possible to make a pine session secure, but you have to be _very_ careful. Pointing $SHELL at a restricted shell or maybe even /bin/false will probably help, tho they may stop you being able to send mail too. -- Rob. (Robert de Bath ) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 May 1997 15:59:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA20594 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 15:59:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA26615; Mon, 19 May 1997 15:59:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA00262; Mon, 19 May 1997 15:56:06 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA39982 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 15:55:49 -0700 Received: from mcl.ucsb.edu (root@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu [128.111.148.100]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA19649 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 15:55:47 -0700 Received: from [128.111.87.74] (SM-chh.resnet.ucsb.edu [128.111.87.74]) by mcl.ucsb.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA06038 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 15:55:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705192255.PAA06038@mcl.ucsb.edu> Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 15:59:44 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: zfutaba@mcl.ucsb.edu (Futaba Kato) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Attachment number MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Mailer: Eudora-J(1.3.8.5-J13) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi! I don't know much about pine and I'm afraid this question sounds silly. But I hope someone will help me. I have a question about attachement. When I put wrong file name, I can erase the wrong file name. But I can't erase the attachment number. And if I try to put a correct file name after the attachemnt number which was made for the previous file name, another attachment number occuer. I can't send the attachement in this case. What should I do? Thank you Futaba From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 May 1997 16:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA21511 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 16:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA27740; Mon, 19 May 1997 16:51:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA16447; Mon, 19 May 1997 16:48:11 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA54244 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 16:47:46 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA01609 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 16:47:43 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 20 May 1997 07:48:21 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 07:48:21 +0800 (GMT) Reply-To: Edward M Greshko Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: pdf attachments In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robin S Socha X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum , Ed DeRivas X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 17 May 1997, Robin S Socha wrote: > On Sat, 17 May 1997, Ed DeRivas wrote: > > >I use an xterm to access my unix box. I open an xterm window to use pine. > >Please let me know how I can configure pine to access acroread to read > >pdf attachments. > > Ok, this has nothing to with pine as such. You need a package called > metamail. > > The metamail program reads a "mailcap" file to determine how to > display non-text at the local site. Every mail- reading interface > needs to call metamail whenever non-text mail is being viewed, unless > the mail is of a type that is already understood by the mail-reading > program. Metamail consults the mailcap file(s) to determine what > program to use to show the message to the user. > > Try saying "which metamail" to check if you have it. If so, gain root > permissions and edit /etc/mailcap. I haven't checked this, but something > like the following should do the trick: > > application/pdf ; xpdf %s; ; test=test -n "$DISPLAY" > Actually, it has *everything* to do with pine. The original poster should read the "release notes" of pine. It tells all about the use of the mailcap file with regards to pine. It will discss things like: OPTION: mailcap-search-path This variable is used to replace Pine's default mailcap file search path. It takes one or more file names (full paths must be specified) in which to look for mail capability data. The default search path can be found in the release notes ("R" command off the main menu). ~/.mailcap:/etc/mailcap:/usr/etc/mailcap:/usr/local/etc/mailcap Which will help you to define when to put the line in that you did describe. So, at least in this case, no need to have metamail. Regards, Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 May 1997 16:53:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA21207 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 16:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA27787; Mon, 19 May 1997 16:53:19 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA03074; Mon, 19 May 1997 16:50:47 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA04766 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 16:50:36 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA24419 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 16:50:32 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 20 May 1997 07:51:11 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 07:51:11 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: qury In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "MR. KHETAN SURESH" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 18 May 1997, MR. KHETAN SURESH wrote: > sir There are "females" on this list as well..... :-) > while printing the message we get this message > " xon char received. set "preserve - start - stop" feature in setup/ > config." From the main menu....go to setup/config....find the feature descirbed below....set it... FEATURE: preserve-start-stop-characters This feature controls how special control key characters, typically Ctrl-S and Ctrl-Q, are interpreted when input to Pine. These characters are known as the "start" and "stop" characters and are sometimes used in communications paths to control data flow between devices that operate at different speeds. Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 May 1997 17:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA21650 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 17:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA27930; Mon, 19 May 1997 17:00:51 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA03588; Mon, 19 May 1997 16:58:47 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA04822 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 16:58:36 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA24848 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 16:58:33 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 20 May 1997 07:59:13 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 07:59:13 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Attachment number In-Reply-To: <199705192255.PAA06038@mcl.ucsb.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Futaba Kato X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 19 May 1997, Futaba Kato wrote: > Hi! > I don't know much about pine and I'm afraid this question sounds silly. > But I hope someone will help me. > > I have a question about attachement. When I put wrong file name, I can > erase the wrong file name. But I can't erase the attachment number. And if > I try to put a correct file name after the attachemnt number which was made > for the previous file name, another attachment number occuer. I can't send > the attachement in this case. What should I do? Use ctrl-k to erase the entire line and retype the correct filename. Ed -- Edward M. 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Full of hot chicks and great picks!!!! http://www.fantazma.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 May 1997 23:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA24164 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 23:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA03661; Mon, 19 May 1997 23:36:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA01127; Mon, 19 May 1997 23:30:45 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA54002 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 23:30:25 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA19930 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 23:30:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wTiPd-00038qC; Mon, 19 May 97 23:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <337DFBE6.E56@pop.pitt.edu> Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 13:41:46 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Augustine Paz To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How do you keep a copy of forwarded mail? References: <337BDE72.9CD@pop.pitt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Heinrich: First, thanks for your response. Heinrich 'Hank' Goetzger wrote: > > if you want to keep a local copy of your mail, just add your local > account-name and a heading slash in your .forward-file. > i.e.: > \lacst20, your_other@mail.somewhere.else > > Hope this works. The [\lacst20, my_other@email] does keep a local copy of my mail but it doesn't forward anymore? Any suggestions? peace, augustine From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 May 1997 23:38:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA25109 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 23:38:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA04880; Mon, 19 May 1997 23:38:14 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA17818; Mon, 19 May 1997 23:35:55 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA25434 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 23:35:26 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA28794 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 23:35:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wTiV4-00038pC; Mon, 19 May 97 23:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5lqtcr$103@news.Hawaii.Edu> Date: 20 May 1997 01:05:31 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: steven@Hawaii.Edu (Steven Sakata) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: configuring for IMAP X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm running pine on a Solaris machine using the IMAP protocol. That is, I have a remote IMAP server that holds my mail. Is there a way to configure pine so that I can keep my mail folders on the server as well? - Thanks, Steven (steven@hawaii.edu) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 May 1997 00:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA25019 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 00:12:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA05312; Tue, 20 May 1997 00:12:38 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id AAA02288; Tue, 20 May 1997 00:07:22 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id AAA51096 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 00:07:10 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id AAA21086 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 00:07:08 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 20 May 97 09:06:53 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id CAA02173; Tue, 20 May 1997 02:37:41 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 02:37:41 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: pdf attachments In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Edward M Greshko X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 20 May 1997, Edward M Greshko wrote: >On Sat, 17 May 1997, Robin S Socha wrongly claimed: >> On Sat, 17 May 1997, Ed DeRivas wrote: [...] > Actually, it has *everything* to do with pine. [...] > So, at least in this case, no need to have metamail. Oooops! :-/ Later, Robin -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 May 1997 00:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA25505 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 00:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA05499; Tue, 20 May 1997 00:29:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id AAA19528; Tue, 20 May 1997 00:25:45 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id AAA15600 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 00:25:34 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id AAA21911 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 00:25:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wTjEz-00038pC; Tue, 20 May 97 00:21 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 14:34:20 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Charles Hu To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Page-Break? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I was wondering if Pine had a "Page-Break" option when composing a message. I believe that Elm allows for this, with a ^L character. Do you know what I'm talking about? Charlie Hu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 May 1997 01:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA12578 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 01:39:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA06357; Tue, 20 May 1997 01:39:30 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA20241; Tue, 20 May 1997 01:31:01 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA44390 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 01:30:45 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA25322 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 01:30:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wTkGL-00038pC; Tue, 20 May 97 01:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 20 May 1997 03:27:45 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: abo@minkirri.apana.org.au (Donovan Baarda) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine takes a LONG time to send a message References: <01bc63b6$1c15f510$118672cf@ntwww> <5lpjsc$10f@hal.linux.org> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 19 May 1997 15:17:00 +0200, Ciro Cattuto wrote: >Joe Emenaker (jemenake@genesiscom.com) wrote: > > > I'm using Debian Linux with smail as my MTA. Lately, Pine has been taking > > longer and longer to send messages. When I go to send, it merely says > > "Sending | 100%" at the bottom and it just stays there for about 3-4 > > minutes. > >I'm using Debian 1.2 with smail, and I experience the *same* problem! >I also noticed that it only happens when I'm logged via a serial line >TCP/IP connection (SLIP/PPP) ... > I had the same problem. I fixed it by specifying my own host as my SMTP server in the configuration. I'm not sure exactly _why_ this fixed it, but I think it has something to do with pine doing the sendmail thing itself rather than handing the job off. ABO From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 May 1997 03:24:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA27485 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 03:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA06195; Tue, 20 May 1997 03:24:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA21237; Tue, 20 May 1997 03:21:21 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA40102 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 03:21:03 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id DAA27437 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 03:21:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wTly8-00038pC; Tue, 20 May 97 03:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5lhj50$o96@hobbes.crc.com> Date: 16 May 1997 12:15:28 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: b.j.smith@ieee.org, bryan_smith@mail.crc.com (Bryan J. Smith) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine with Microsoft Exchange References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: pine-list-owner@psg.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN That wouldn't be because you installed Microsoft Office/Word with "Word Mail" support would it? It seems to do many annoying, industry-NON-standard things ... I'm not sure about that thought ... In article , sf3@ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM says... > >Hopefully, someone will know the answer to the following problems: > >A bunch of us here at work are using Pine (v3.95) on SunOS 4.1.4. >Other people here at work are using Microsoft Exchange for their >email. > >When people on Microsoft Exchange send email to us Pine users, >we get this WINMAIL.DAT uudecoded text at the bottom of each >email. Also a server id is embedded in the email address in >the "From:" field in the header. > >We Pine users cannot respond directly to these Microsoft Exchange >users because the email bounces unless we remove the server id. > >For example, if I was a Microsoft Exchange user, my id would >appear as follows to Pine users: > > sf3@po1.ElSegundoCa.NCR.COM > ^^^ > >The "po1" is some sort of server id. > >Yet another group of people use Sun's "mailtool" for their email. >Users of "mailtool" do not get the WINMAIL.DAT text at the bottom >of their emails, nor do they get the server id in the header and >they *can* respond directly to the email. > >Questions: > >1) Is there a way to suppress the inclusion of the WINMAIL.DAT > text at the bottom of the email? > >2) Is there a reason why the server id is being embedded in the > email address? > >3) Is there a way to respond to Microsoft Exchange users without > having to edit the email address everytime? > >Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!! > >________________________________________________________________________ > | Steven Feinholz | VOICEplus: 427-5945 > NCR | Client Software | Phone: (310) 524-5945 > Parallel | 100 N. Sepulveda Blvd. | FAX: (310) 524-5515 > Systems | 15-169 | Email: sf3@ElSegundoCa.NCR.COM > | El Segundo, Ca 90245 | Steven.Feinholz@ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM >________________________________________________________________________ > -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ==================================================================== BRYAN J. 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See personal WWW page for details ... ******************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 May 1997 04:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA07081 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 04:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA07829; Tue, 20 May 1997 04:00:59 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA05015; Tue, 20 May 1997 03:56:39 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA50652 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 03:56:10 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id DAA07627 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 03:56:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wTmVe-00038pC; Tue, 20 May 97 03:51 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <338012E5.446B9B3D@tvinet.com> Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 01:44:21 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Dana Huggard To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Open folder to first new message after last read message? References: <5lkoid$lmd@sun20.ccd.bnl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I setup a script, which starts it as such; pine -d 0 -i -z -sort arrival/reverse ...Now I can't live without starting it that way. Mark Doyle wrote: > > Hi, > > I just started using Pine 3.96 (on NeXTSTEP 3.3) for reading e-mail when I > telnet into my machine and generally I am quite pleased with it. One thing > that I find annoying though is that when I view my various incoming folders, > the message selected is the first new message in the folder instead of the > first recent message (i.e., the first new message since the last time I > accessed the mailbox). Is there a way to configure Pine to work the latter > way? (I am used to using /usr/ucb/Mail which will mark messages as 'Unread' > when I finish reading a mailbox and then opens to the first new (recent) > message or the first unread message if there are no new messages). I looked > pretty carefully through the set-up options and looked through the archive of > the Pine discussion list and the FAQ and I didn't see a way to set this > feature. Did I just miss it? If Pine can't do this, I would like to see this > in future versions of Pine. > > Thanks, > Mark From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 May 1997 04:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA27353 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 04:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA07038; Tue, 20 May 1997 04:24:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA22563; Tue, 20 May 1997 04:21:27 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA55706 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 04:21:12 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id EAA29299 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 04:21:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wTmwJ-00038pC; Tue, 20 May 97 04:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5lr3vq$p52$1@its.hooked.net> Date: 20 May 1997 02:58:02 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: emaquili@sole.hooked.net (Eric Maquiling) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: popclient -3 gives me double mail X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi all, >From my Linux box at home, I use popclient to get my mail from my isp. I'm not sure if this is a popclient question or a .pinerc question. But when I get my mail, I get 2x the amount with half of them blank. Has anyone seen this before? -- ----------------------------------------- Eric Maquiling |Written on %100 pure recycled electrons| Oracle Corp |work != my opinions 415.506.0249 | PC Automation Group ----------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 May 1997 04:34:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA27409 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 04:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA08497; Tue, 20 May 1997 04:34:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA06104; Tue, 20 May 1997 04:31:21 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA55554 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 04:31:13 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id EAA01522 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 04:31:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wTn6A-00038pC; Tue, 20 May 97 04:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5lr2p5$qc02@musca.unm.edu> Date: 19 May 1997 20:37:25 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: hamjavar@unm.edu (Farid Hamjavar) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: 3.96 still freezes X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN pine 3.96 aix 4.[12].x Hello, As you all (or some who were affected) remember last year there were a lot of problems with pine 3.9<2,3,4,5> in regards to its tty capabilities: various functionalities such as composing or replying would result in recoverable (Cntrl L) or unrecoverable (session freeze) screen behavior .... Then 3.96 was released and it seems that have fixed a lot of tty issues (at least with aix)... But ... I still experience freeze of screen when I try to get back after a "CntrlZ" .... The length of these "CntrlZ" are within reasonable time range like a minuet or two ... But upon foreground-ing pine the session is completely/permanently hung/frozen! And nothing usually is logged to ~/.pine-debug[0-9] Is there any one of you with aix/pine (above versions) still experiences these terminal-related problems? Is there a solution .... ? Farid From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 May 1997 09:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA32704 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 09:23:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA13158; Tue, 20 May 1997 09:23:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA06113; Tue, 20 May 1997 09:17:01 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA44540 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 09:16:22 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA22600 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 09:16:19 -0700 Received: from serv.litho.ucalgary.ca (serv.litho.ucalgary.ca [136.159.75.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id JAA11929 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 09:16:15 -0700 Received: by serv.litho.ucalgary.ca (4.1/LP2.0) id AA08423; Tue, 20 May 97 10:16:25 MDT Message-Id: <9705201616.AA08423@serv.litho.ucalgary.ca> Date: Tue, 20 May 97 10:16:25 MDT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: vasudeva@litho.ucalgary.ca (Kris Vasudevan 220-7923) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: PINE_software X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, vasudeva@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Re: PINE software Dear Sir, I heard, the PINE software for electronic mail originating from your university is public-domain. Is there a UNIX-version (SUN/OS or Solaris) as well as an NT-window version of the software? If I wish to download the software, what is the procedure? Thanking you in advance for your courtesy, Kris Vasudevan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 May 1997 09:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA00750 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 09:33:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA13372; Tue, 20 May 1997 09:32:51 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA43154; Tue, 20 May 1997 09:28:13 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA35140 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 09:27:06 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id JAA21641 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 09:27:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wTrj8-00038pC; Tue, 20 May 97 09:25 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 20:56:24 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: thrytis@imaxx.net (Eric Green) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Maildir module for c-client library (Pine/IMAP2) available X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Greetings, A module for Mark Crispin's c-client library using qmail's Maildir format is now available. The c-client library is distributed as part of the University of Washington's Pine package and provides mailbox access routines for a variety of mailbox formats. Any program using this library, such as Pine and imapd 2, will read and write Maildir mailboxes with this module without converting to an mbox format. Mail programs with this module are still able to read and write other mailbox formats. This module is still in testing, so there may be some problems with it. It is known to work with Pine 3.96, and may work with earlier versions of the library. It will now work with the c-client library distributed with the IMAP4. The module can be downloaded from http://www.imaxx.net/bh/utils.html, or ftp://ftp.imaxx.net/users/bh/c-client.maildir.module.tar.gz Eric Green Bloodhounds International Inc. thrytis@imaxx.net http://www.imaxx.net/bh From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 May 1997 11:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA03555 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 11:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA15673; Tue, 20 May 1997 11:48:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA16147; Tue, 20 May 1997 11:42:32 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA36042 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 11:42:11 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id LAA08921 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 11:42:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wTtnu-00038pC; Tue, 20 May 97 11:38 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 20 May 1997 10:22:01 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rick Lewis To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: interrupted while composing: inconsistent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, All, I have tried to get some insight on this from several sources, including this list, and so far have been unsuccessful. But I *know* somebody knows this who can help me resolve it, so I'm trying again. I've used Pine 3.91 on a friend's account, and its behavior was exemplary. If I was composing a message online in Pine, if the carrier was lost, the pre-empted message would be there next time I entered the composer. But not on pine 3.95 on Primenet! The behavior is totally inconsistent. A call might be interrupted right at the To: line, and it'll be there for me next time (when I really don't need it). But last night, I'd been writing a message for almost a half hour, when I lost carrier; and that message vanished into cyberspace and I could never get at it again to finish it. So, my questions are these: 1. Is there anything I can do in my config to make Pine more consistent? 2. Is there anything Primenet can do in its configuration to make their Pine less flaky? It's frustrating to have to write letters off-line all the time, just because one of the nicer features in Pine doesn't work like it's supposed to on my ISP. PLLLLLLLEEEEEEase, can someone help me resolve this? Thanks!! -- Rick Lewis The 90's: the decade where your employer could downsize your job. But all you can get upsized is an order of fries. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 May 1997 18:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA10540 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 18:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA26076; Tue, 20 May 1997 18:25:32 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA19896; Tue, 20 May 1997 18:21:25 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA15544 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 18:20:04 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA18478 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 18:20:03 -0700 Received: from alba.syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (alba.syd.dit.csiro.au [130.155.20.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA24907 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 18:19:59 -0700 Received: from jasper.syd.dit.csiro.au by alba.syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (8.6.12/1.06S) id LAA00188; Wed, 21 May 1997 11:19:58 +1000 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 11:20:14 +1000 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Wai Yat Wong To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: HCI problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Pine folks: I am an avid user of pine. But from an usability point of view, I find it very annoying. Control-X and Control-C are next to each other. I sometime have mistakenly typing Control-C in-order to send a document and only after I press "Y" for ok that I realise that I have just cancelled my mail. Please tell me as soon as possible an easy way to remap the key to something else. e.g. mapping/customising the send key from (Ctl-X) to (Ctl-N) in pine. regards Wai Yat Wai Yat Wong CSIRO Mathematical and Information Sciences Sydney Laboratory Locked Bag 17 Tel: +61 2 9325 3145 North Ryde NSW 2113 Australia Fax: +61 2 9325 3101 Email address wai-yat.wong@cmis.csiro.au wai-yat.wong@syd.dit.csiro.au From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 May 1997 19:51:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA00530 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 19:51:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA26455; Tue, 20 May 1997 19:51:08 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA10690; Tue, 20 May 1997 19:48:46 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA25474 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 19:48:27 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA24607 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 19:48:25 -0700 Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [198.83.19.115]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA26417 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 19:48:23 -0700 Received: from mime4.prodigy.com (mime4.prodigy.com [192.168.254.43]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA33910 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 22:48:21 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by mime4.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) id WAA43586 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 20 May 1997 22:47:49 -0400 Message-Id: <199705210247.WAA43586@mime4.prodigy.com> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 22:47:49, -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: RHFF82A@prodigy.com (MR WILLIAM J ZWEMKE) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: mime-aware tools X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Prodigy Internet GW(v0.9beta) - ae01dm04sc03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN How do I receive MIME-aware tools? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 May 1997 21:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA14029 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 21:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA29185; Tue, 20 May 1997 21:51:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA26674; Tue, 20 May 1997 21:49:07 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA46382 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 21:48:49 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA09961 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 21:48:48 -0700 Received: from ispam.net (root@ispam.net [205.199.212.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA29148; Tue, 20 May 1997 21:48:43 -0700 Received: from --- CLOAKED! --- Received: from savetrees.com (savetrees.com [000.000.000.000]) by savetrees.com (0.0.0./0.0.0.) with SMTP id AAA000000 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 23:47:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: 0000000000.AAA000@savetrees.com Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 00:00:12 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: product@savetrees.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: product@savetrees.com To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: SONGMAIL -- Unique Gift Idea X-To: product@savetrees.com X-1: This email was sent by "Cyber-Bomber" ... Details at http://www.cyberpromo.com X-2: This server only relays mail from other sources. X-3: To report abuse, please send email to abuse@cyberpromo.com. X-4: Coming soon --> Master remove list implementation by I.E.M.M.C. X-UIDL: 58835813471126178947559642195154 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Tired of sending the same old flowers, candy, cards and other typical gifts? For Father's Day, Mother's Day, birthdays, anniversaries, apologies, peace- offerings, friendship, Valentine's Day or just to tell someone you care... why not SEND-A-SONG? It's as easy as picking up your phone, dialing our 800 number, picking a song, and sending "song-mail" to anyone you choose -- anywhere in the USA. Plus it's very affordable (just $9.95), you can SEND-A-SONG at the very last minute, and you're guaranteed a unique gift they've never received before. For a great gift idea, check out the SEND-A-SONG website at http://www.sendasong.inter.net/ for full details. 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From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 May 1997 23:38:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA14031 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 23:38:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA00575; Tue, 20 May 1997 23:38:15 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA18402; Tue, 20 May 1997 23:36:22 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA19510 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 23:36:07 -0700 Received: from mail.compulink.co.uk (mail.compulink.co.uk [194.153.0.20]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA02736 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 23:36:04 -0700 Received: from mayday.compulink.co.uk (root@mayday.compulink.co.uk [194.153.8.241]) by mail.compulink.co.uk (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id HAA12415 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 07:35:48 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 16778 invoked by uid 400); 21 May 1997 06:01:50 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 07:01:31 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: Robert de Bath Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robert de Bath" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: popclient -3 gives me double mail In-Reply-To: <5lr3vq$p52$1@its.hooked.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eric Maquiling X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Mailer: Pine 3.95q on Linux 2.0 - This should be set by pine! X-URL: http://www.cix.co.uk/~mayday X-Dev86-Version: 0.12.1 X-Alternate-address: User rdebath on machine cix.co.uk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 20 May 1997, Eric Maquiling wrote: > From my Linux box at home, I use popclient to get my mail from my isp. > I'm not sure if this is a popclient question or a .pinerc question. But > when I get my mail, I get 2x the amount with half of them blank. Has > anyone seen this before? Popclient is now getting on a bit and has been considerably improved and renamed! It's now called fetchmail ... http://www.ccil.org/~esr It looks like it's not a pine problem btw, but it could be a problem with either popclient or your MDA (sendmail, smail, qmail, zmail ...) or even your ISP. (OTOH you haven't really given enough information) -- Rob. (Robert de Bath ) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 01:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA15532 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 01:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA01800; Wed, 21 May 1997 01:06:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA21093; Wed, 21 May 1997 01:03:05 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA63742 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 01:01:52 -0700 Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA08690 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 01:01:49 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 21 May 1997 09:00:11 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA19780; Wed, 21 May 1997 09:01:33 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 09:01:32 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: PINE_software In-Reply-To: <9705201616.AA08423@serv.litho.ucalgary.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Kris Vasudevan 220-7923 X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN You can view the Pine Legel Notices on the World-Wide Web at: http://www.washington.edu/pine/overview/legal.html Further information about Pine, including where to obtain it for a variety of platforms is also available: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On Tue, 20 May 1997, Kris Vasudevan 220-7923 wrote: > Re: PINE software > > Dear Sir, > > I heard, the PINE software for electronic mail originating from your > university is public-domain. > > Is there a UNIX-version (SUN/OS or Solaris) as well as an NT-window version > of the software? If I wish to download the software, what is the procedure? > > Thanking you in advance for your courtesy, > > Kris Vasudevan > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:04:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA16193 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA01384; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:04:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA22528; Wed, 21 May 1997 01:54:52 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA24326 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 01:54:42 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA13517 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 01:54:40 -0700 Received: from sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu (sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu [130.74.1.71]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA02483 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 01:54:38 -0700 Received: from localhost by sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/951211.SGI) for id DAA24427; Wed, 21 May 1997 03:54:36 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 03:54:36 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: John Tyson Littlejohn To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: signature MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi This may be a simple question, but how do I get my signature to come at the bottom of the page instead of the top, which will save me the trouble of cutting and pasting. Thanks, John From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:36:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA16155 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:36:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA01792; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:36:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA04832; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:34:10 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA37826 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:33:55 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id CAA22889 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:33:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wU7l1-00038pC; Wed, 21 May 97 02:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 10:59:51 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mauro Copelli To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Character fonts In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 16 May 1997, Sven Guckes wrote: > copelli@luc.ac.be (Mauro Copelli): > > I usually receive messages in Portuguese, and after some changes in=20 > > the configuration I managed to make Pine write words with special=20 > > characters (like "liga=E7=F5es", for instance) in an understandable way= .=20 > > However, if words like that come in the subject (which is rather common= ),=20 > > nothing works anymore. Even with the iso-8859 character set configurate= d,=20 > > I get stuff like =3D?iso-8859-1?Q?Eha=3DED?=3D in my messages. > > Any hint of how to fix this? >=20 > Looks like these characters will need "iso-8859-1" - not "iso-8859". ;-) Yep, sure, that's what I meant :-P. Still, it works only in the message=20 itself, not in the "subject" line (which would be rather useful, one=20 should agree). So, any clue? =09Thanks,=20 +-----------------------------------------------------------+ | Mauro Copelli | E-mail: | | Onderzoeksgroep Theoretische Fysica | copelli@luc.ac.be | | Universitaire Campus | | | Limburgs Universitair Centrum | Fax: 32-11-268299 | | 3590 Diepenbeek, Belgium | Phone: 32-11-268218 | +-----------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA16668 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA02986; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:37:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA23078; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:34:21 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA31436 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:33:58 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id CAA09138 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:33:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wU7lC-00038qC; Wed, 21 May 97 02:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5lt20h$dkq$1@shade.twinsun.com> Date: 20 May 1997 13:36:33 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: eggert@twinsun.com (Paul Eggert) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: pine oddity? References: <3381D24C.41C6@gulfaero.com> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN "Devon A. Benjamin" writes: > When running pine on a Solaris 2.5 workstation, I get the string "xxx" > in what's supposed to be the Month field. I get this when looking at > the list of emails in my inbox. If I view the message the date appears > correctly in the message header. Somehow, for whatever reason, the date > does not show up in the message list. It used to until a week or so > ago. Perhaps the Date: lines in your email do not conform to RFC 822? If that's not the problem, run `pine' under a debugger and see why `parse_date' isn't finding a matching month. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA12416 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:53:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA01961; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:53:17 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA05066; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:49:50 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA37870 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:49:29 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA09641 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:49:27 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id CAA01929 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:49:25 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 21 May 97 11:49:10 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA01337 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 09:33:55 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 09:33:51 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: delete -- expunge MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi there, maybe I've missed the important part, but could there be a slight inconsistency in pines deleting behaviour? When I delete a folder, I am asked whether I want to delete it. Fine. When I delete a message, it doesn't. I have to manually expunge it. Ok, it gets deleted, anyhow, when I leave the folder, but still... :-) Could someone enlighten me, please? TIA, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM4KlYGe8+XvDOeNZAQFaNgf9FC9aFsDk/6arVE3WhiOfr5slfuH2Lv7l qY9JaY0TJtLfuqXuu3gjBcaFUL7SNKyly2A6HA/izNyq/hCoETrcv23WWn/FHNX4 sCikYJIYpTewOATKDwMM4cVncZYIufk0zlS/4Tsu5ofKhtWttehL9cAjPFolF6xN vuTgaoL1qXcBit6r7INKFs5FmBLeXfjm8IX5euW9vzwu66kNNlBDZSl62VjoDs5c mx59QtKFuJp3aCnrvOt4/FZgzxoJ9+8L1R3lSEdOJVuT19bveoRvBXHwq8QUi7LC FtD+EmrZbXO7nZsZZ5eW0rL3XMmK29bqvYlYPwmM7Pet4mnXnKOXOQ== =KCta -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 03:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA17474 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 03:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA02628; Wed, 21 May 1997 03:33:55 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA05645; Wed, 21 May 1997 03:31:30 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA37676 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 03:31:21 -0700 Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id DAA10898 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 03:31:18 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:34/2.6.2.c) id MAA02390; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:31:05 +0200 Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id MAA01327; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:30:26 +0200 Received: by mail.ife-le.de (Smail-3.2.0.91) with smtp; id for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:04:13 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 12:03:55 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rudolf Kompf To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: signature In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: John Tyson Littlejohn X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 21 May 1997, John Tyson Littlejohn wrote: -> Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 03:54:36 -0500 (CDT) -> From: John Tyson Littlejohn -> To: Pine Discussion Forum -> Subject: signature -> -> -> Hi -> -> This may be a simple question, but how do I get my signature to come at -> the bottom of the page instead of the top, which will save me the trouble -> of cutting and pasting. -> -> Thanks, -> John -> Set via config-menu 'signature-at-bottom' -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 03:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA15379 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 03:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA02676; Wed, 21 May 1997 03:37:32 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA23613; Wed, 21 May 1997 03:30:59 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA67024 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 03:30:42 -0700 Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA13462 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 03:30:37 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 21 May 1997 11:28:27 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id LAA05220; Wed, 21 May 1997 11:29:42 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 11:29:41 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: signature In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: John Tyson Littlejohn X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN A question for you in return... Have you tried looking through Pine's Setup Configuration screen for anything that seems relevent to your query? There's lots of options there to allow you to configure Pine in many ways, and one of them does just what you want. (I leave you to discover which ... I'm told it's called "Information Research"!) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On Wed, 21 May 1997, John Tyson Littlejohn wrote: > > Hi > > This may be a simple question, but how do I get my signature to come at > the bottom of the page instead of the top, which will save me the trouble > of cutting and pasting. > > Thanks, > John > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 03:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA16902 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 03:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA03983; Wed, 21 May 1997 03:59:38 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA06198; Wed, 21 May 1997 03:55:28 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA66834 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 03:55:09 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id DAA11624 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 03:55:07 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 21 May 97 12:54:52 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA01789; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:03:09 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 12:03:03 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Character fonts In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mauro Copelli X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 20 May 1997, Mauro Copelli wrote: >On 16 May 1997, Sven Guckes wrote: >> copelli@luc.ac.be (Mauro Copelli): [portugese headers] >> Looks like these characters will need "iso-8859-1" - not "iso-8859". ;-) >Yep, sure, that's what I meant :-P. Still, it works only in the message >itself, not in the "subject" line (which would be rather useful, one >should agree). So, any clue? Yep. Anything not us-ascii doesn't have anything to do in the header. By definition, the header is supposed to contain us-ascii only. Here's a workaround for those of you using procmail (kindly made up for perl lusers like me by era eriksson and Philip Guenther : :0 fh * =\?ISO-8859-[0-9]+\?Q\? |perl -pe 's#=\?ISO-8859-\d+\?Q\?(.*?)\?=#$s=$1; $s=~s/\s+(\r?\n)/$1/g;'\ - -e '$s=~s/=\r?\n//g; $s=~s/=([\da-fA-F]{2})/pack("C", hex($1))/ge;'\ - -e '$s#ge;' Hope that helps any. Cheers, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM4LIWWe8+XvDOeNZAQHfpQf9EfAS9IxAZCYHNnjE9+b1aT4hcSrZJ4P1 NRd9exWYonwC7g/uDF/GslhZ4f3VzMCiue7zxVngC99z65hpEki9dOD0GeQ5rUWE hyeqhOMQbd6DAwSt17bYRvxCQkNW7yv1TOPCT4wcet0vkltmBHimfxWoCR2RjgPO RFYwqTXflxyre0uG4S0yWJz+VBFMjURH+sM1TjR4ZDiGGs2hnVioLCm0X307yGBt wzkEO4mtmHNuLm83xTNwFc3mPKvZs1rf1FT8mtfx3EcMfmQcy/EoFwzAnpPLAPCs 6Vm8yy0OAcFgftRZ6aMn9xXNRi+JQFejVm9MWn0lDEzdJJImiLnltg== =8qhz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 04:00:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA17646 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 04:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA02934; Wed, 21 May 1997 04:00:46 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA06227; Wed, 21 May 1997 03:55:44 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA66842 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 03:55:11 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id DAA11626 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 03:55:09 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 21 May 97 12:54:54 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA01756; Wed, 21 May 1997 11:51:25 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 11:51:20 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: signature In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: John Tyson Littlejohn X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 21 May 1997, John Tyson Littlejohn wrote: Yo! >This may be a simple question, And a Frequently Asked Question, too :-) >but how do I get my signature to come at the bottom of the page instead >of the top, which will save me the trouble of cutting and pasting. Either hack your .pinerc and add a feature signature-at-bottom or do the same in M(ain), S(etup), C(onfigure). Enjoy. Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM4LFmme8+XvDOeNZAQGS5ggAqeHgvlX6pvlgyQG9sxRZQ08ysdnu2aZT TnSdcxwhqaAAYtWQ3+8KbZOuha6igkPxHku8/efbQYtL81oWtLsiwyMrilYJPTtZ HfUGY6x7QjJda3Fuq5niSOkzQcBAKO724DARKLIQH8Q7EunCCxvelBq1oeVHP81n K80h9v8NsC/zuU16C5ozgo+v0Hjeit9p3NGcmJOOkKuo5mI/zrDnSH1afB1WhQ6Q Jlx/bfA8bc2g45SVfLeOOJCiqJ2XEkx3TKMDBf9HCkZXOYn3Ei1K+FzOKz6HUqYG U/pun+UC88TQWpTLoilFQjoJR2sL3R05Yvq0paz/CbEWFiOhgg55UQ== =bYnW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 04:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA17385 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 04:34:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA03583; Wed, 21 May 1997 04:34:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA25062; Wed, 21 May 1997 04:30:57 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA37876 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 04:30:34 -0700 Received: from abaco.coastalnet.com (abaco.coastalnet.com [204.183.40.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA27255 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 04:30:31 -0700 Received: from localhost (joey@localhost) by abaco.coastalnet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA23789 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 07:28:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 07:28:51 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe Young To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: script/config MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Folks: Have decided to eliminate the .pine-debug using script found on this list. The one problem I have is convincing pine I really want to do this. Wrote script below that works fine, except from always using the literal version "pine" to call program, I do not seem able to remember to use the new version "p", I believe it's called age ingrained responses, "air", new ackronym btw. Tried tricking it by placing a script in my bin to remind me to use the new but not tooooooo successful. Any thoughts. pine -d 0 -i -z -sort arrival/reverse Also, have noticed that the .pinerc ownership is changed without my help at various times to "root" ownership. Does anyone know if this is a "pine" binary program change or is something/someone generating the change. Makes it difficult to make changes when you don't own it. Joe Young New Bern, N.C. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 05:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA15582 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 05:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA03985; Wed, 21 May 1997 05:09:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA07710; Wed, 21 May 1997 05:04:46 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA29232 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 05:04:16 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id FAA20555 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 05:04:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wUA5h-00038pC; Wed, 21 May 97 05:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5lode7$137@er5.rutgers.edu> Date: 18 May 1997 22:20:55 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: sotory@eden.rutgers.edu (PZS) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Help, My Pine says it won't open the INBOX X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, Does anyone know how to fix pine when it says it won't open your INBOX because "last message runs past end of file"? thats the error message I keep getting. I started getting it yesterday after I received mail that sent me over my disk quota. I deleted some files to go back under quota, but when i returned to pine, i still got the same error. Does anyone know how the headers pine uses works? Is there anyway I can force it to read the INBOX? Any thoughts on the matter will be greatly appreciated, -Thanks -Peter From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 07:33:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA20036 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 07:33:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA07079; Wed, 21 May 1997 07:33:47 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA13475; Wed, 21 May 1997 07:30:08 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA59450 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 07:29:35 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA26376 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 07:29:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wUCMq-00038pC; Wed, 21 May 97 07:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 21 May 1997 10:31:04 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: wiu09524@rrzc4 (Ulrich Windl) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine takes a LONG time to send a message In-Reply-To: "Joe Emenaker"'s message of 18 May 1997 18:06:57 GMT References: <01bc63b6$1c15f510$118672cf@ntwww> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I saw this with 3.94 and HP-UX 10.10. In fact sendmail had died in the background (due to timeout?), but Pine just hung. A series of kills was needed to recover. The problem only occured when a message exceeded some trivial length threshold (maybe 4kB). With 3.96 things work as earlier. Ulrich From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA21066 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA08235; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:24:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA05787; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:18:53 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA43188 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:18:22 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA04715 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:18:17 -0700 Received: from gw.symitar.com (firewall-user@www.symitar.com [206.251.147.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA08068 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:18:14 -0700 Received: by gw.symitar.com; id IAA16996; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from symitar.symitar.com(1.1.1.1) by gw.symitar.com via smap (3.2) id xma016994; Wed, 21 May 97 08:06:45 -0700 Received: from localhost by symitar.symitar.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA48812; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:18:11 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 08:18:11 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: lwright@symitar.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: lwright@symitar.com To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: more info than films have Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi- I ordered and watched your films on PINE. I liked the way it was presented. I felt they were excellent for the beginning user. However, I did not see answers to some questions I have. I am writing an on-line help reference guide for our company for our intranet and I do have a few questions. 1. What is the difference between ^G and Help choice from the main menu? I think that ^G is help for the immediate screen you are on and the help choice is the whole manual. Is this correct? 2. The tech guys want to know if when mail comes in and you are on line are you prompted. I know that there is a prompt message from when you are in the compose screen because I have had it come in, but does this appear anywhere else? I would write something like, you are prompted that you have new mail if you are on-line; otherwise it's put into your inbox. 3. Does Pine automatically erase or prompt anyone when the inbox of a user is huge? or does the user have to delete their own messages? Thank you for any help you can give. Linda Wright Education Specialist, Training Dept. Symitar Systems, Inc. 5151 Murphy Canyon Road San Diego, CA 92123 email lwright@symitar.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA21790 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:28:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA08324; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:28:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA17460; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:25:25 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA39228 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:24:50 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA28706 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:24:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wUDEa-00038tC; Wed, 21 May 97 08:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 21:20:06 +1000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Frank Fox To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: How to check mailbox Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm using Pine 3.93 under linux with: "inbox-path={mail.powerup.com.au/pop3}inbox" in .pinerc to access a remote pop3 mailbox. This works fine as far as it goes. When I start up pine it asks me for my name and password and I get my mail. There are two things that I want to know: 1/ How can automate this process? I don't want to enter my name and password every time I access my mailbox. 2/ Pine checks my mail only at startup. At the moment, to check my mail, I shutdown pine and restart it. There has to be a better way. How? If anybody knows anything about this, I would be most grateful if they would let me know. Frank Fox ffox@mail.powerup.com.au From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA21948 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA07297; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:30:29 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA17437; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:25:05 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA39220 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:24:47 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA13206 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:24:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wUDD2-00038qC; Wed, 21 May 97 08:21 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 16:21:47 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Heinrich 'Hank' Goetzger" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How do you keep a copy of forwarded mail? In-Reply-To: <337DFBE6.E56@pop.pitt.edu> References: <337BDE72.9CD@pop.pitt.edu> <337DFBE6.E56@pop.pitt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Augustine, On Sat, 17 May 1997, Augustine Paz wrote: >Heinrich 'Hank' Goetzger wrote: >> if you want to keep a local copy of your mail, just add your local >> account-name and a heading slash in your .forward-file. >> i.e.: >> \lacst20, your_other@mail.somewhere.else >> >> Hope this works. > >The [\lacst20, my_other@email] does keep a local copy of my mail but it >doesn't forward anymore? Any suggestions? I'm sorry, that's how it is working on my site. In this case, I've to post this question back to the group itself and hope, there is one how has more ideas about that. Take care Heinrich ,~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~. | name: Heinrich Goetzger home: Streets of San Francisco... | | lab: +1 (415) 604-4393 fax: +1 (415) 604-6779 c/o L. Doyle | | eMail: hank@cmdraca.arc.nasa.gov goetzger@fh-konstanz.de | | PGP-Fingerprint: C3 6B A3 BA 26 AA 68 20 7F ED 6E 33 78 8A 6A 07 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | ? ? ? main(){while(!fork())sleep(1);} ? ? ? | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Everytime I Find The Meaning Of Life, They Change It. | `~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:14:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA20719 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:14:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA11183; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:14:22 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA23711; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:09:51 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA58908 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:09:30 -0700 Received: from lwcunix.lwc.edu ([159.230.37.17]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA09737 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:09:19 -0700 Received: from localhost by lwcunix.lwc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA19080; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:21:31 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 12:21:31 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Greg Tsigaridas Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Greg Tsigaridas To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine and Win95 -- SOLUTION In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 20 May 1997, Andy Behrens wrote: > > On Fri, 9 May 1997, Merton Campbell Crockett wrote: > > I'm a little confused. Windows95 isn't involved in the environment that > > you describe. You are using Unix and any printing that you would do of > > messages will be printed in the Unix environment. > > > > Greg did say that he was using Telnet to connect from Windows95 to the > Unix system on which his mailbox resides. Presumably he's using Pine's > "print to attached PC printer" option, which sends escape sequences to turn > the PC's printer on and off. > That's right, and thanks to the advice of Robert J. Wilshe... > > A common problem that I had my share of frustration with also! The > packaged emulator that ships with Win95 does not accept the printer > control codes that are passed when you "print-from-ansi". You need a > different emulator... > ...we're now using EWAN telnet to access Pine, and pressing 'Y' to print works perfectly! Thanks for all the suggestions! ------ Greg Tsigaridas -g---- Postmaster/Unix Administrator --r--- Information Technology, Longwood College ---e-- gtsigari@longwood.lwc.edu ----g- (804) 395-4357 ------ (804) 395-2378 (FAX) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:17:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA24280 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA10101; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:17:08 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA12884; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:10:33 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA66244 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:10:05 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA24593 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:10:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wUEpq-00038qC; Wed, 21 May 97 10:05 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 18:18:26 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Kent Sandvik To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine takes a LONG time to send a message In-Reply-To: <5lpjsc$10f@hal.linux.org> References: <01bc63b6$1c15f510$118672cf@ntwww> <5lpjsc$10f@hal.linux.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 19 May 1997, Ciro Cattuto wrote: > Joe Emenaker (jemenake@genesiscom.com) wrote: > > > I'm using Debian Linux with smail as my MTA. Lately, Pine has been taking > > longer and longer to send messages. When I go to send, it merely says > > "Sending | 100%" at the bottom and it just stays there for about 3-4 > > minutes. > > I'm using Debian 1.2 with smail, and I experience the *same* problem! > I also noticed that it only happens when I'm logged via a serial line > TCP/IP connection (SLIP/PPP) ... I was always wondering about this, and when I moved inside the company to another location, suddenly sending mail is quick again. Somehow I suspect something related to DNS lookups and busy DNS servers, but that's just a guess, especially as when I had slow mail I used BSD mail, and sending mail this way was quick. The reason I suspect pine is using sendmail in an intriguing way was that if I had a mailing list, sending emails to such a list was extraordinary long effort... --Kent --- "From action the diversity of the world is produced." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA20469 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA11047; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:57:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA26149; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:51:18 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA53368 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:50:56 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA14365 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:50:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wUFRs-00038qC; Wed, 21 May 97 10:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 13:11:08 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Welch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: parameter 'user_domain' for postings only? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Seeing others do it and getting sick of UCE and Spam I went into the configuration menu of my Pine and changed the parameter called user_domain from 'access.digex.net' (again,...copying from others.) to 'access.digex.remove.net' and then created a .signature file advising people to 'remove the remove' After a couple of weeks I found out that none of my correspondence was being received by AOL'ers. Other domains seemed to receive it OK. I'vebeen informed that several domains check the validity of the "From:" address before delivering mail. This sort of makes sense. However having a erroneous "From:" makes very good sense for postings. (To prevent email address harvesting.) Question: Is there a way to change the user_domain ONLY for posting and not for personal email? Thanks,...Lester From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 11:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA25422 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 11:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA11120; Wed, 21 May 1997 11:00:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA26578; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:57:13 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA19678 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:56:46 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA15051 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:56:17 -0700 Received: from freenet.npiec.on.ca (freenet.npiec.on.ca [205.211.3.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA12224 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:55:48 -0700 Received: from NiagaraNet.npiec.on.ca (NiagaraNet.npiec.on.ca [205.211.3.7]) by freenet.npiec.on.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23027 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 13:53:48 -0400 (EST) Received: from localhost (lhoward@localhost) by NiagaraNet.npiec.on.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA53400 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 13:53:47 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 13:53:46 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Len Howard To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Andrew MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am having diffilculty getting a message to England to andrew.d5@ukonline.co.uk it comes back to me undeliverable, I have sent other messages to the same address but it will not work can you help me with this problem, ( it says user unknown ) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:05:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA27077 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:05:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA12788; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:05:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA01562; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:00:55 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA26512 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:00:08 -0700 Received: from lwcunix.lwc.edu (LWCUNIX.LWC.EDU [159.230.37.17]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA06468 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:00:04 -0700 Received: from localhost by lwcunix.lwc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA17639; Wed, 21 May 1997 14:12:12 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 14:12:12 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Greg Tsigaridas Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Greg Tsigaridas To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Andrew In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Len Howard X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Well, judging from the error that was returned, you either entered the username (andrew.d5) wrong, or that account has been removed/disabled for some reason. Either way, it's not a problem with Pine. ------ Greg Tsigaridas -g---- Postmaster/Unix Administrator --r--- Information Technology, Longwood College ---e-- gtsigari@longwood.lwc.edu ----g- (804) 395-4357 ------ (804) 395-2378 (FAX) On Wed, 21 May 1997, Len Howard wrote: > I am having diffilculty getting a message to England to > andrew.d5@ukonline.co.uk it comes back to me undeliverable, I have sent > other messages to the same address but it will not work can you help me > with this problem, ( it says user unknown ) > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA27955 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA15001; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:54:44 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA21387; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:49:04 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA59548 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:00:18 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA29354 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:00:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wUGbV-00038qC; Wed, 21 May 97 11:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5lvfkk$9m1@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Date: 21 May 1997 18:41:24 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: rmach@gropius.engin.umich.edu (Rodney Mach) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: supress addressbook expansion in To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I have several entries in my address book that contain 300+ entries (faculty list syntax mailing lists), When I put these aliases on the To: line it automatically expands the alias to all 300+ entries, I don't want it to do that, I want it to just leave the alias there, then expand it as it mail it out so I don't have to look at that massive list! I couldn't find any of the config options in setup that allow you to do that. Anybody have any ideas? Thanks a bunch -Rod From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA27611 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:57:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA15060; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:57:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA21596; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:50:30 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA55572 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:05:16 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA25986 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:05:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wUGeN-00038qC; Wed, 21 May 97 12:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5lvg1d$9m1@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Date: 21 May 1997 18:48:13 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: rmach@gropius.engin.umich.edu (Rodney Mach) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: supress addressbook expansion in To: References: <5lvfkk$9m1@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Rodney Mach (rmach@gropius.engin.umich.edu) wrote: : Hi, I have several entries in my address book that contain 300+ entries : (faculty list syntax mailing lists), When I put these aliases on the : To: line it automatically expands the alias to all 300+ entries, I don't : want it to do that, I want it to just leave the alias there, then expand : it as it mail it out so I don't have to look at that massive list! I couldn't : find any of the config options in setup that allow you to do that. Anybody : have any ideas? : Thanks a bunch : -Rod Someone mentioned Lcc: to me. I can enable Rich Headers, put the list on Lcc: then disable Rich Headers, but then there is nothing in the To: field, I prefer to put the list on th To: field and not have it expand, and not use the Rich Headers Lcc: Thanks! -rod From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 13:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA15869 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 13:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA15108; Wed, 21 May 1997 13:00:45 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA02702; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:53:11 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA31482 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:09:24 -0700 Received: from freenet.npiec.on.ca (freenet.npiec.on.ca [205.211.3.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA07370 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 12:09:20 -0700 Received: from NiagaraNet.npiec.on.ca (NiagaraNet.npiec.on.ca [205.211.3.7]) by freenet.npiec.on.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02851; Wed, 21 May 1997 15:07:16 -0400 (EST) Received: from localhost (lhoward@localhost) by NiagaraNet.npiec.on.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA56824; Wed, 21 May 1997 15:07:15 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 15:07:15 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Len Howard To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Andrew In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Greg Tsigaridas X-Cc: Len Howard , Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I do thank you very much for the quick responce, I wonder should I have not put the period in agfter the name andrew, anyway I appreciate the reply From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 13:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA28237 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 13:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA14358; Wed, 21 May 1997 13:12:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA24231; Wed, 21 May 1997 13:07:09 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA76904 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 13:05:48 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA12859 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 13:05:43 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 21 May 97 22:05:24 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA00404; Wed, 21 May 1997 20:32:08 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 20:32:03 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Andrew In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Len Howard X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 21 May 1997, Len Howard wrote: >I am having diffilculty getting a message to England to >andrew.d5@ukonline.co.uk it comes back to me undeliverable, I have sent >other messages to the same address but it will not work can you help me >with this problem, ( it says user unknown ) Print the message out, wrap it round a brick and throw it into his living room. I guess that's the accepted behaviour in the UK . Otherwise: The user is, as it says, "unknown", i.e. his address is no longer valid . Check: www.whowhere.com www.switchboard.com they *might* have his address. Cheers, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM4M/pGe8+XvDOeNZAQFV9Qf/eH2uoUTklnMnY1miYy5UXx4ACxdk5N7h FFPgqgb+2C/WZYFYNaU5leCk5CS5YZx4rhzOJthKE3EYQ0TDEiOFaJbIixhQwodu eJDXlsQdzZyihI5jgiKKkyYPySVqGklj34oOe6UmC4o1/wEXskEc5+BfsFMegM4V O4GF4VEqOtcI6sh2L/TaxJjJzwByow4uNYzLitf+jYN7iR5206fZn5fMCr2TUbiW KPSmRuMCeh38VbVIYqxDQdm2Uq8ICD54EnwVSpklyIjWTGYbSmG2d2a/7Laws0Mn ox0qHQLofxp1oarfThy0rGwF2qjX22Sz1F7gKGYxmYFROko4cZic7A== =+gUU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 14:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA17951 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 14:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA16066; Wed, 21 May 1997 14:30:36 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA12161; Wed, 21 May 1997 14:27:23 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA36738 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 14:26:47 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA15082 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 14:26:42 -0700 Received: from drill.me.utoronto.ca (root@drill.me.utoronto.ca [128.100.49.19]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA17018 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 14:26:38 -0700 Received: from me.me.utoronto.ca by drill.me.utoronto.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13915; Wed, 21 May 97 17:26:29 EDT Received: by me.me.utoronto.ca (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA17693; Wed, 21 May 1997 17:26:27 -0400 Message-Id: <9705212126.AA17693@me.me.utoronto.ca> Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 17:26:26 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: leutheu@drill.me.utoronto.ca (Prof H.J. Leutheusser) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: MIME Content-Type: text X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: leutheu@drill.me.utoronto.ca (Prof H.J. Leutheusser) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Kindly advise how I can read a message sent to me in MIME format. Thank you. H.J. LEUTHEUSSER leutheu@mie.utoronto.ca From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 15:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA30980 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 15:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA17135; Wed, 21 May 1997 15:19:36 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA05403; Wed, 21 May 1997 15:15:27 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA60530 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 15:14:56 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA26720 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 15:14:50 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 22 May 97 00:14:35 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA02027; Thu, 22 May 1997 00:11:15 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 00:11:09 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: Robin S Socha Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: MIME In-Reply-To: <9705212126.AA17693@me.me.utoronto.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Prof H.J. Leutheusser" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 21 May 1997, Prof H.J. Leutheusser wrote: Dear Prof H.J. Leutheusser, >Kindly advise how I can read a message sent to me in MIME format. that depends on what kind of MIME message you've received. MIME stands for Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions, which basically means that this message my contain anything that's not strictly ascii --- even HTML is considered MIME. However, being one of the lucky few using pine, salvation is near --- it comes in the guise of a file called mailcap, the entry for which can be found either in M(ain), S(etup), C(onfig), or in the ~/.pinerc directly. Check for these entries and make the appropriate changes (from my .pinerc): -------------8<--------- snip here -----8<------------------ # NOTE: colon delimited under UNIX, semi-colon delimited under DOS/Windows/OS2. mailcap-search-path=/etc/mailcap # Sets the search path for the mimetypes cofiguration file. # NOTE: colon delimited under UNIX, semi-colon delimited under DOS/Windows/OS2. mimetype-search-path=/etc/mailcap -------------8<--------- snip here -----8<------------------ Now, some trouble might occur in displaying HTML files. If you check this list's archive, you'll find solutions for both lynx and netscape. Here's what the entry in /etc/mailcap for lynx should look like: -------------8<--------- snip here -----8<------------------ test=test -z "$DISPLAY" -a -z "$LYNX_VERSION"; needsterminal text/html; lynx force_html %s; needsterminal; -------------8<--------- snip here -----8<------------------ There was a short, pregnant and highly philosophical dispute about which way to go with notscape, and I remember solving it, but I forget which parameters had to be put in the mailcap file. Anyway, if you're using lynx, the following is a Good Thing (tm) to have as a customized printer command: -------------8<--------- snip here -----8<------------------ #!/bin/sh - FILE=$1 [ "$FILE" = "" ] && FILE=- ( echo "" echo "" echo "File $1" echo "" echo "

"

cat $FILE | sed \
  -e  's/>/ \> /g' -e  's/ ]*[^()\.,">& ]\):http\://\1:g' \
  -e 's:ftp\://\([^"> ]*[^()\.,">& ]\):http\://\1:g' \
  -e  's/ > /\> /g' -e  's/ < /\< /g'
    
echo '
' ) > /tmp/l_file.html stty onlcr < /dev/tty lynx -force_html /tmp/l_file.html < /dev/tty > /dev/tty 2>&1 echo 'done' -------------8<--------- snip here -----8<------------------ Just put it in an executable file in your search path, and then say prYnt CustomPrint and *whoa!* you can view html inside pine. Thanks again to whoever made up this script, it's *way* kewl >:-> HTH, Robin P.S. How come you're posting to the pine group if you're using Elm? >;-> - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM4NzAGe8+XvDOeNZAQHXvggAjXe8mS4np7lf0q2M7UIQTJ8DXD81tXeX u9PZP1WFo276C8mbw2XHSujXsVNirYAySFvBbILgm+Nm7Kb5foYaLlHozjVqhJy5 gDOHrLOeuXJbI3OEggAh7VRSmGsz7pt3yAvz/1WuJida/mpTiPc8qZVHSjWi9Vvd 575TAJ2I/zM3r7FJU4AuvmDfwfKxN9X63eS07tvtW90KjiZoNFhpxSwXC4c+kvWi p/CaiDsF/zv74apJmE68NUkUg9sGKoqtor8NOx8YAP3rf7NINufRPfuAAGW9u7QB zZYCm6LspMCtu+HJz1sHpdqyV8fyqx1ZJEPcZc08mv0LlhYW/PJadQ== =YWu8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 16:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA30118 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 16:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA19018; Wed, 21 May 1997 15:59:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA08479; Wed, 21 May 1997 15:56:17 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA75132 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 15:55:46 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA00876 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 15:55:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wUKGp-00038qC; Wed, 21 May 97 15:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5lufp5$72a$1@av2.rz.fh-augsburg.de> Date: 21 May 1997 09:37:41 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: schreini@spider.rz.fh-augsburg.de (Thomas Schreiner) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Q: First line in Reply X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, is it possible to change the fist line in a reply and how? When i'm replying to someone the fist line looks allway like: On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Oliver Weingaertner wrote: I want to change it into something like: Hi Oliver, you wrote to me regading ... ist this possible? Thanks in advance Schreini -- /// Email: Schreini@rz.Fh-Augsburg.de ---------///------------------------------------------------------------------ \\\/// Keep on rocking in a free World - Neil Young - \XX/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 17:34:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA18753 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 17:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA20992; Wed, 21 May 1997 17:34:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA23116; Wed, 21 May 1997 17:31:33 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA73668 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 17:31:03 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA22882 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 17:31:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wULki-00038qC; Wed, 21 May 97 17:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 19 May 1997 08:26:04 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guardian@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Nick Allan) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: changing from address X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi all I'm wondering if there is a way to change my from address in pine? I know I can use reply-to but I'd rather change the from address, you can do it in elm But is there any way to do it in pine? Thanks in advance for any infomraiton you can give me. Regards Nick -- Regards Nick guardian@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au nallan@bigfoot.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 18:03:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA01397 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 18:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA21435; Wed, 21 May 1997 18:03:48 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA59116; Wed, 21 May 1997 18:01:36 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA71310 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 18:01:10 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA05718 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 18:01:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wUMCL-00038sC; Wed, 21 May 97 17:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5lvvak$mpa@tesla.netline.net> Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 19:12:45 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: htreetrunk@hotmail.com To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: helpful new florida website X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN organizations or business trips, meetings plans, family vacations, etc. in Florida are well handled by the people at www.floridatime.com check out and bookmark this site for future reference. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 1997 18:09:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA32039 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 18:09:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA20568; Wed, 21 May 1997 18:08:56 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA15082; Wed, 21 May 1997 18:06:28 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA39356 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 18:06:06 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA00974 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 18:06:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wUMGP-00038qC; Wed, 21 May 97 18:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5lugok$q0e@aragorn.mdh.se> Date: 21 May 1997 09:54:28 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: boran@dat95abs.campus.mdh.se (Bussiga Boran) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: .foreward ?? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In article , Travis Vitek writes: > I have created a file called .foreward in my $HOME directory which > contains the e-mail address that I want my mail to be sent to. But this > doesn't work. You should name it: .forward (that's without an 'e') -- /Bussiga Boran ************************************************************** 'All I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power' -- Ashleigh Brilliant ************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 May 1997 00:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA02309 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 00:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA26382; Thu, 22 May 1997 00:12:44 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id AAA07760; Thu, 22 May 1997 00:02:42 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id AAA63710 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 00:02:06 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id AAA03311 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 00:02:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wURpS-00038sC; Wed, 21 May 97 23:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5ltjkl$g5s$1@nadine.teleport.com> Date: 21 May 1997 01:37:25 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Guy Meacham To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Suppressing Cc: field References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 19 May 1997 20:21:24 +0300 Devaraj SUPRAMANIAM wrote: : Hi, : I was wondering if it was possible to suppress the addresses in : the Cc: field so that each receipent sees only his address in the header. : Thanks : cheers, : devaraj : ankara, turkey Sounds like what you need is BCC: this is not a default header in pine but can be easily added using setup. Guy. -- Guy Meacham.......................finger -l meacham@teleport.com Rippingale Nursery...............http://www.rippingale.com/~meacham/ . "The thing that impresses me the most about America is they way parents obey their children." -- King Edward VIII From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 May 1997 01:09:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA04932 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 01:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA26266; Thu, 22 May 1997 01:09:17 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA09601; Thu, 22 May 1997 01:00:30 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA56006 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 01:00:19 -0700 Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA05573 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 01:00:14 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 22 May 1997 08:58:26 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id IAA16607; Thu, 22 May 1997 08:59:44 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 08:59:44 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: changing from address In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Nick Allan X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Not as standard in, I believe, an attempt to reduce mail forgery. If you _really_ need to do this you will need to obtain the source code, make the appropriate change (uncomment the ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM definition) and compile it. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On 19 May 1997, Nick Allan wrote: > Hi all > I'm wondering if there is a way to change my from address in pine? I know > I can use reply-to but I'd rather change the from address, you can do it in elm > But is there any way to do it in pine? > > Thanks in advance for any infomraiton you can give me. > > Regards Nick > > -- > Regards Nick > guardian@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au > nallan@bigfoot.com > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 May 1997 01:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA26726 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 01:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA26371; Thu, 22 May 1997 01:17:47 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA09788; Thu, 22 May 1997 01:13:41 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA22408 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 01:13:18 -0700 Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA06002 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 01:13:14 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 22 May 1997 09:11:22 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA19367; Thu, 22 May 1997 09:12:46 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 09:12:46 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Q: First line in Reply In-Reply-To: <5lufp5$72a$1@av2.rz.fh-augsburg.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Thomas Schreiner X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is not (at least currently) an option you can configure yourself. The only way of doing it would be for you to obtain the source code, alter the program to the wording you want to use, and then compile it. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On 21 May 1997, Thomas Schreiner wrote: > Hi, > is it possible to change the fist line in a reply and how? When i'm > replying to someone the fist line looks allway like: > > On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Oliver Weingaertner wrote: > > I want to change it into something like: > > Hi Oliver, you wrote to me regading ... > > ist this possible? > > Thanks in advance > Schreini > > -- > /// Email: Schreini@rz.Fh-Augsburg.de > ---------///------------------------------------------------------------------ > \\\/// Keep on rocking in a free World - Neil Young - > \XX/ > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 May 1997 02:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA24187 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 02:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA27929; Thu, 22 May 1997 02:28:45 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA02309; Thu, 22 May 1997 02:22:51 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA59592 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 02:22:31 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id CAA19729 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 02:22:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wUU44-00038sC; Thu, 22 May 97 02:21 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 01:48:42 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: PeopleInternetWork To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Question In-Reply-To: <33839E91.22AC@eskimo.com> References: <33839E91.22AC@eskimo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I would like to fix this *&%* pine. Any help would be appreciated. The last posts looked like this; 230 May 21 Len Howard Re: Andrew 231 May 21 Robin S Socha Re: Andrew 232 May 21 David A Galbraith CIR How does your mail system work? 233 May 21 Prof H.J. Leutheusser MIME 234 May 21 Robin S Socha Re: MIME 235 May 22 Dana Booth <"Dana Boo Re: signature I would like my handle to appear in the slot where names appear. I believe you will see the name of the group instead, "To:....." Hep me!! he me!! Thank you Yes I rtfm 'ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 May 1997 03:30:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA06935 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 03:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA27817; Thu, 22 May 1997 03:30:34 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA11471; Thu, 22 May 1997 03:15:22 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA76424 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 03:15:06 -0700 Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA09910 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 03:14:58 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 22 May 1997 11:13:04 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id LAA24672; Thu, 22 May 1997 11:14:26 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 11:14:25 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PeopleInternetWork X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hmmm.... your message seems a little incoherent: it's not really obvious what it is you are asking at all. However I'll make a wild guess and assume it's the same old question that is asked (and answered) time and again about the phrase "To: recipient name" appearing in the index screen instead of your own name for messages you send out. (If I'm wrong in this assumption please forgive me and either hope someone else fathoms the query better then I, or else perhaps you could repost it a little more clearly.) Firstly... Pine assumes that you know your own name. This means that providing it _implies_ to you by some other means that a message originated from you it can then use space saved to display more usefyl information. In particular to the presence of the "To:" prefix is _implying_ that this message originated from you. The remaining space is then used to display the name of the first recipient the message was e-mailed to or, in the case of a message posted only to one or more newsgroups and not e-mailed, the name of the first newsgroup. This behaviour _is_ actually explained (although a little more concisely) in Pine's built-in help: in the Index screen type a "?" to see its help screen and read down a little way. There you will find: SENDER: The name or email address of the sender. If you are the sender, then the first recipient's name is shown here. In Newsgroups, if you are the sender and there are no email recipients, the newsgroup name will be listed. This is actually a *very* useful feature that the people who complain don't (yet) appreciate. For example if you save incoming and outgoing messages into a folder it helps you identify messages you sent to a particular person very easily. If you are keeping copies of all the messages you send (by have a "default-fcc" set up) try looking in that folder to see how useful it is! If you *really* can't live with this feature (or like the constant reassurance of seeing your own name:-) you _can_ change it. Take a look in Pine's Setup Configuration screen for the variable called "index-format" and read its built-in help entry (put the cursor on it and type "?"). This explains how to tailor the format that the Index screen uses to display its lists. It also tells you the default value normally used. If you make a note of this you can then explicitly set the index-format to the same string, except with FROMORTO changed to FROM. The result will be that the Index screen will _always_ display the "From:" field value for the messages listed, and you will lose the ability to easily check folders containing copies of outgoing messages for a message to a particular person (the index will merely list your own name against each of them). Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On Thu, 22 May 1997, PeopleInternetWork wrote: > I would like to fix this *&%* pine. Any help would be appreciated. The > last posts looked like this; > > 230 May 21 Len Howard Re: Andrew > 231 May 21 Robin S Socha Re: Andrew > 232 May 21 David A Galbraith CIR How does your mail system work? > 233 May 21 Prof H.J. Leutheusser MIME > 234 May 21 Robin S Socha Re: MIME > 235 May 22 Dana Booth <"Dana Boo Re: signature > > I would like my handle to appear in the slot where names appear. I > believe you will see the name of the group instead, "To:....." > > Hep me!! he me!! > > Thank you > > Yes I rtfm 'ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 May 1997 09:11:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA12172 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 09:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA04165; Thu, 22 May 1997 09:11:50 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA54014; Thu, 22 May 1997 09:04:19 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA31428 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 09:03:41 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id JAA22253 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 09:03:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wUaK6-00038uC; Thu, 22 May 97 09:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 07:06:56 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Tom Malloy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Printing to linux Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Using MSdos I have used the attached to ansi printer option many times when I have been connected by modem to my shell account. I would like to have the same capabiltity now that I am using linux. I believe that I should be able to configure my system to allow remote printing. Then I could provide pine with the custom command to print to my system remotely. Does this sound reasonable? Do you have any suggestions on how this might work? Currently the print to attached ansi prints to the screen. So another choice would be to redirect standard output to the printer. However I am unsure how to modify the print to ansi command. Could that work? Any sugestions are welcome. Thank you From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 May 1997 10:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA14284 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 10:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA05703; Thu, 22 May 1997 10:56:55 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA25528; Thu, 22 May 1997 10:52:25 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA33966 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 10:51:53 -0700 Received: from franklin.icsd.k12.ny.us (root@franklin.icsd.k12.ny.us [207.10.97.70]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA09439 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 10:51:51 -0700 Received: from franklin.icsd.k12.ny.us (bill@franklin.icsd.k12.ny.us [207.10.97.70]) by franklin.icsd.k12.ny.us (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA12333; Thu, 22 May 1997 13:46:02 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 13:46:01 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: William Mahler To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Printing to linux In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Tom Malloy X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Tom... Try using a telnet program called EWAN. This allows printing to remote ( attached printers) and it's price is right. It's freeware. On Thu, 22 May 1997, Tom Malloy wrote: > Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 07:06:56 -0400 > From: Tom Malloy > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Printing to linux > > Using MSdos I have used the attached to ansi printer option many times > when I have been connected by modem to my shell account. I would like to > have the same capabiltity now that I am using linux. I believe that I > should be able to configure my system to allow remote printing. Then I > could provide pine with the custom command to print to my system remotely. > Does this sound reasonable? Do you have any suggestions on how this might > work? Currently the print to attached ansi prints to the screen. So > another choice would be to redirect standard output to the printer. > However I am unsure how to modify the print to ansi command. Could that > work? Any sugestions are welcome. Thank you > > William R. Mahler Ithaca City School District Ithaca, New York 14850 e-mail wmahler@icsd.k12.ny.us Voice (607) 274-6802 Helpline (607) 274-6800 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 May 1997 12:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA16500 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 12:09:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA07499; Thu, 22 May 1997 12:08:56 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA07318; Thu, 22 May 1997 12:04:38 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA55844 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 12:04:05 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA17053 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 12:04:01 -0700 Received: from shell.flinet.com (bkaras@shell.flinet.com [205.216.85.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA08522 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 12:03:58 -0700 Received: from localhost (bkaras@localhost) by shell.flinet.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id PAA16561 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 15:04:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 15:04:02 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Barry Karas To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Marking a Message as Important MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I use ver. 3.95. When I go to mark a msg as important ("*"), I am then given a choice of four options. When I choose "I" (for "important"), I just get a beep and nothing happens. Why, and how can I fix it? Thanks. Barry "If you tell a lie 40 times, it becomes the truth." -- Turkish proverb. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 May 1997 13:35:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA32640 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 13:35:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA10454; Thu, 22 May 1997 13:35:36 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA60124; Thu, 22 May 1997 13:30:21 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA04454 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 13:29:36 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA25277 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 13:29:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wUePM-00038tC; Thu, 22 May 97 13:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 16:08:30 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jerry Bryan To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Fcc on PC Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am trying to convert myself from Pine on a VAX (the PMDF port of Pine) to Pine on a PC (the 32 bit version under WIN95). I have the 3.96 beta. I can't seem to get Fcc to work on the PC. It says it works. That is, it says it saves the outgoing message. If the folder for Fcc doesn't exist, it even prompts me to create it. But the outgoing message is never saved. I have tried pointing Default-Fcc both locally and remotely. Locally, it prompts me to create the folder and says it saves the message. But nothing is there. From inside of Pine, the folder simply isn't there. >From outside of Pine, there seems to be a file created, but it contains 0 bytes. Remotely, I get similar results (the IMAP4 server is the same VAX I normally use). Is this a known bug, or am I doing something wrong? Thanks in advance. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Robert G. Bryan (Jerry Bryan) jbryan@pstcc.cc.tn.us Pellissippi State (423) 539-7198 10915 Hardin Valley Road (423) 694-6435 (fax) P.O. Box 22990 Knoxville, TN 37933-0990 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 May 1997 15:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA20045 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 15:21:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA11655; Thu, 22 May 1997 15:21:24 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA17432; Thu, 22 May 1997 15:17:00 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA59978 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 15:16:22 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA19140 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 15:16:21 -0700 Received: from opus.csd.uwm.edu (dave@opus.csd.uwm.edu [129.89.70.144]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA11542 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 15:16:19 -0700 Received: (dave@localhost) by opus.csd.uwm.edu (8.8.3/8.6.4) id RAA06523 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 22 May 1997 17:16:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199705222216.RAA06523@opus.csd.uwm.edu> Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 17:16:15 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Dave Rasmussen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: 3.96 taking over system MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23beta2] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I finally got around to replacing out 3.91 on DEC Alpha system with 3.96 this afternoon after I'd used 3.96 in day to day use for about a month. I installed it and about 2 hours later people wondered why the system load averages were above 50 when they're normally around 4 or 5. I look and all these pine jobs are in RUN state just chewing up time. Does anyone know what's up with respect to this? Thanks. I've reverted to our old production 3.91 now again. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 May 1997 20:47:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id UAA24021 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 20:47:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id UAA18598; Thu, 22 May 1997 20:47:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA02321; Thu, 22 May 1997 20:45:56 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA50372 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 20:45:38 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id UAA01456 for ; Thu, 22 May 1997 20:45:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wUlF4-00038tC; Thu, 22 May 97 20:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <1997May22.110910@axp1.cpg.mcw.edu> Date: 22 May 97 11:09:10 CDT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: brodie@axp1.cpg.mcw.edu (Kent C Brodie) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: PINE 3.95- how to define printer LIST? X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN [VMS Pine (pmdf), 3.95] I was taken aback by how different the PRINT setup utility is. This is fine, but I am having trouble aiding my users in their PRINT setup. Spefically, I want the users to choose option number two, "standard VMS print command", and pick (or set the default) printer of their choice. According to the online help, " OPTION: Set default printer Move to the printer you want and type "S" to set it to be your default printer. This list is not modifiable by you and has been set up by the system administrators. If there is more than one printer listed in the Command List, you will be able to cycle through that whole list at the time you print, starting with your default." -------- Can someone tell me how, as the systems administrator, I set up the list of printers, system-wide, so my users can pick the one they want? I cannot find where to do this in the documentation or help. -- Kent C. Brodie - Systems & Network Manager Internet: Medical College of Wisconsin MaBellNet: +1 414 456 5080 Clinical Practice Group (http://www.cpg.mcw.edu/www/staff/brodie.html) "Keep your hands and feet inside the ride at all times..." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 May 1997 02:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA26825 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 02:08:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA20729; Fri, 23 May 1997 02:08:46 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA10004; Fri, 23 May 1997 02:06:53 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA74932 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 02:06:33 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id CAA12209 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 02:06:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wUqE8-00038tC; Fri, 23 May 97 02:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <33847D2D.2246@bluemarble.net> Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 12:06:53 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Beelzebub To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: List of Error messages? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN We have had some problems with users getting error 452 when sending mail. I was wondering if there was a list available of what all of the error messages in Pine mean. I looked through their web site, and although there were a few other people who experienced this error, there was no answer as to what it means there. Thanks for your help. Jody From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 May 1997 03:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA25240 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 03:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA21311; Fri, 23 May 1997 03:01:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA10470; Fri, 23 May 1997 02:56:57 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA75050 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 02:56:42 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id CAA23668 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 02:56:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wUr1t-00038tC; Fri, 23 May 97 02:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5m3okl$42j@news01.uni-trier.de> Date: 23 May 1997 09:39:33 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: scheuerm@uni-trier.de (Horst Scheuermann) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Application PGP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I got a mail written with elm with a haeder Content-Type: application/pgp; format=text; x-action=encryptsign in my .pinerc are display-filters for pgp encode Mail: display-filters=_BEGINNING("-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----")_ /usr/local/bin/unpgp _TMPFILE_, ...... so I can read pgp encode Mail. I tried several entries in .mailcap to read the application, bit none worked. -- Horst Scheuermann Universitaets-Rechenzentrum Trier __o Universitaetsring 19 D-54286 Trier _`\<,_ Telefon: 0651 201 3436 Telefax: 0651 201 3921 (_)/ (_) scheuermann@uni-trier.de ~~~~~~~~~~~~ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 May 1997 03:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA27470 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 03:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA23252; Fri, 23 May 1997 03:17:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA10794; Fri, 23 May 1997 03:15:46 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA31360 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 03:15:31 -0700 Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA19082 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 03:15:24 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 23 May 1997 11:13:11 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id LAA18652; Fri, 23 May 1997 11:14:28 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 11:14:27 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: List of Error messages? In-Reply-To: <33847D2D.2246@bluemarble.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Beelzebub X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The error message you are seeing is almost certainly not originating from Pine itself (it tends to use nice, user-friendly messages). Instead it will be originating from your mail or Usenet News system (depending on whether the problem occured whilst you were trying to e-mail a message or post one to Usenet News). Pine receives the error message and merely relays it on to you. Thus you first need to recognise whether you are sending an e-mail or a Usenet News article. This will indicate which underlying service has generated the message. You can then either try to work out the problem from the error message within that contact, or contact your local/ISP Help Desk for assistance. (They will probably want the eact wording of the error message you received, and exactly what you were trying to do at the time.) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On Thu, 22 May 1997, Beelzebub wrote: > We have had some problems with users getting error 452 when sending > mail. I was wondering if there was a list available of what all of the > error messages in Pine mean. I looked through their web site, and > although there were a few other people who experienced this error, there > was no answer as to what it means there. > > Thanks for your help. > > Jody > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 May 1997 03:26:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA23451 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 03:26:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA21554; Fri, 23 May 1997 03:26:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA10938; Fri, 23 May 1997 03:20:51 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA70236 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 03:20:36 -0700 Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA00551 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 03:20:33 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 23 May 1997 11:18:55 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id LAA21308; Fri, 23 May 1997 11:20:12 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 11:20:10 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Marking a Message as Important In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Barry Karas X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN There was a slight change in the user interface to the Flag command in recent versions of Pine. Certainly it affects 3.95; I don't know the version it was actually introduced. If you give the Flag (*) command and then actually read the Command Menu at the bottom of the screen (reproduced below) you should spot your problem: Flag New, Deleted, Answered, or Important ? N New D Deleted ! Not ^C Cancel * [Important] A Answered ^T To Flag Details ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (Hint: as well as "*", the square brackets indicate the default command which will be used if you just press Return). Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On Thu, 22 May 1997, Barry Karas wrote: > I use ver. 3.95. > > When I go to mark a msg as important ("*"), I am then given a choice of > four options. When I choose "I" (for "important"), I just get a beep and > nothing happens. Why, and how can I fix it? Thanks. > > Barry > > "If you tell a lie 40 times, it becomes the truth." -- Turkish proverb. > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 May 1997 08:44:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA20089 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 08:44:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA26175; Fri, 23 May 1997 08:44:20 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA21365; Fri, 23 May 1997 08:38:05 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA62938 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 08:37:43 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA18714 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 08:37:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wUwLM-00038tC; Fri, 23 May 97 08:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 10:32:30 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: zach@world.std.com (Zachary H Leber) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine takes a LONG time to send a message References: <01bc63b6$1c15f510$118672cf@ntwww> <5lpjsc$10f@hal.linux.org> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ciro Cattuto (ciro@stud.unipg.it) wrote: : Joe Emenaker (jemenake@genesiscom.com) wrote: : > I'm using Debian Linux with smail as my MTA. Lately, Pine has been taking : > longer and longer to send messages. When I go to send, it merely says : > "Sending | 100%" at the bottom and it just stays there for about 3-4 : > minutes. : I'm using Debian 1.2 with smail, and I experience the *same* problem! : I also noticed that it only happens when I'm logged via a serial line : TCP/IP connection (SLIP/PPP) ... : ciao, : Ciro : -- : Ciro Cattuto e-mail: ciro@stud.unipg.it : PLUTO Linux Users Group (PG) cattuto@pg.infn.it : ciro@pluto.linux.it : Fidonet: 2:335/412.29 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 May 1997 11:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA01657 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 11:13:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA29401; Fri, 23 May 1997 11:13:17 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA00344; Fri, 23 May 1997 11:09:36 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA50192 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 11:08:08 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA03761 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 11:08:07 -0700 Received: from gw.symitar.com (firewall-user@www.symitar.com [206.251.147.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA01107 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 11:08:04 -0700 Received: by gw.symitar.com; id KAA05973; Fri, 23 May 1997 10:56:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from symitar.symitar.com(1.1.1.1) by gw.symitar.com via smap (3.2) id xma005968; Fri, 23 May 97 10:56:42 -0700 Received: from spc865.symitar.com by symitar.symitar.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA69321; Fri, 23 May 1997 11:08:23 -0700 Message-Id: <3385DC30.2D67@symitar.com> Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 11:04:32 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Sanchez To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine install Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello my name is Mike Sanchez and I work at Symitar systems I have been given the task of installing pine and have no clue on how to I don't really know AIX to well but I do know that I can get the tar files at the Uof Washington's ftp site. Do you think you can give me some info on what files to get and how to untar them then how to compile and so on, please send me some info on how to get this thing going from A-Z I would really appreciate it. Mike Sanchez. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 May 1997 16:36:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA07309 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 16:36:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA06066; Fri, 23 May 1997 16:35:57 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA08593; Fri, 23 May 1997 16:33:35 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA50384 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 16:33:11 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA01914 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 16:33:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wV3kp-00038tC; Fri, 23 May 97 16:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5m4flq$jeu$3@news.ececs.uc.edu> Date: 23 May 1997 16:12:42 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Application PGP References: <5m3okl$42j@news01.uni-trier.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN [Posted and mailed] In article <5m3okl$42j@news01.uni-trier.de>, scheuerm@uni-trier.de (Horst Scheuermann) writes: > I got a mail written with elm with a haeder > Content-Type: application/pgp; format=text; x-action=encryptsign > > in my .pinerc are display-filters for pgp encode Mail: > display-filters=_BEGINNING("-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----")_ /usr/local/bin/unpgp _TMPFILE_, I think you should use "_LEADING(" instead of "_BEGINNING(" in the filter configuration. Better yet, check my web page for a simple and sure way: http://www.pharm.med.uc.edu/~yuan/pine_pgp.html Cheers! Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. of Cincinnati - Dept. of Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 = x-1169 (fax) == == www.uc.edu/~yuanj = Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = using Knews (Irix5.3) == == PGP key: finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu == From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 May 1997 17:13:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA08345 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 17:13:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA06921; Fri, 23 May 1997 17:13:45 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA10686; Fri, 23 May 1997 17:11:22 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA46404 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 17:11:01 -0700 Received: from smarty.telcel.net.ve (smarty.T-Net.net.ve [206.48.41.100]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA20647 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 17:10:57 -0700 Received: from ccas5-sli28.T-Net.net.ve ([208.136.193.157]) by smarty.telcel.net.ve (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release 0154 evaluation license) with SMTP id AAA21439 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 20:08:42 +0400 Received: by ccas5-sli28.T-Net.net.ve with Microsoft Mail id <01BC67B8.494DA540@ccas5-sli28.T-Net.net.ve>; Fri, 23 May 1997 20:31:26 -0400 Message-Id: <01BC67B8.494DA540@ccas5-sli28.T-Net.net.ve> Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 20:31:21 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: JOSE GONZALEZ To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: pine errors MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BC67B8.49554660" X-To: "'pine-info@u.washington.edu'" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC67B8.49554660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a Server RS/6000 AIX 3.2.5 and PINE 3.96. When I execute a Pine Compile file for create a new message, I have a = problem with field TO:, any character introduce and press ENTER or ARROW = KEYS the PINE abort.=20 In the next file see errors. =20 =20 Thank you for your attention. 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I run Linux/Alpha on a 166mhz DEC Alpha UDB and I'm having some problems with Pine 3.95 on it. First off, if I have a large message in the composer or a message with a large attachment, and hit Ctrl+T to spell check it, the spell checker does its thing as it should, but when I exit it, pine never comes back. I have to do a kill -9 on the process to make it disappear. Smaller messages work just fine. Secondly, piping messages that have been sent through a display-filter doesn't seem to work. As an example, I use PGP and have a script called pgpdecode that is run from a display-filter when I view a PGP signed message. If I try to pipe a message that the display-filter catches to say, '/bin/cat' as a really basic example, pine comes back with 'Error piping message.' So, I tried piping to '/bin/cat >/tmp/blah' and looked at the contents of /tmp/blah. All that was there were the message headers followed by a blank line. Other than those two things, everything seems to be fine. Does anyone have any ideas what the problem might be? Please CC: messages to me personally as I only check this group once a week or so. Shane- - -- __ _ _ Together Networks System Admin (_ |_ _.._ _ | \ _ |_)o _| _| _ ._ AnotherNet Chat Network's Founder __)| |(_|| |(/_ |_/(/_| \|(_|(_|(/_| shane@together.net/admin@another.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: finger shane@another.org for my public key iQCVAwUBM4XNh1Q4IBNbInGpAQG4wAQAjbqAXBaCxzlv7Kb/uFidzLFL0hqizkO+ oT4Yed1G8k7vygmadTKtcy7UNd/3ThFfpCAG79IUHoQdBnHYi5vTtTq+aIRV+Gaz JJs2SAh38PyMpkeBu1RgiWl2KiMTwcj3wRw6zndAXA6sAgb0wu3eFpFjsSNE3dZf gpFExZyc9M8= =L2UH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 May 1997 07:33:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA14229 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 07:33:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA16670; Sat, 24 May 1997 07:33:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA06201; Sat, 24 May 1997 07:31:21 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA20980 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 07:30:32 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA01944 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 07:30:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wVHnG-00038yC; Sat, 24 May 97 07:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 00:04:51 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: case sensitivity & folder list bug Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I just discovered a bug when using Pine with a PMDF IMAP server. I had two folders, one named `mailed' and one named `Mailed'. Only `Mailed' showed up in my Pine folder list. I just deleted the `Mailed' folder and then the `mailed' one did show up (so it really was there). I don't know if this is a problem with Pine or with the PMDF IMAP server but I thought I'd report it. Thanks, Nancy -- / .-. / / \ .-. .-. / / \ / \ .-. _ .-. / \ / /Nancy McGough--Infinite Ink/---\---/-\---/---\http://www.ii.com/ \ / \ / `-' `-' \ / \ / \ / `-' `-' `-' `-' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 May 1997 07:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA10926 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 07:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA18552; Sat, 24 May 1997 07:33:49 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA06177; Sat, 24 May 1997 07:31:04 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA75000 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 07:30:36 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA20893 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 07:30:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wVHns-00038zC; Sat, 24 May 97 07:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 13:29:40 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Byrg Bonnelycke To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: iso_8859_1 char set ??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi: Sometimes PINE says that the message is using the iso_8859_1 character set, and that my current character set may not read the message correctly. 1) Does this iso_8859_1 character have to be installed on my PC at home? 2) Or does it have to be installed on the UNIX system of my dial-up host? 3) Where can I download this iso_8859-1 character set? Thanks, Byrg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 May 1997 07:38:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA14771 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 07:38:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA18619; Sat, 24 May 1997 07:38:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA29147; Sat, 24 May 1997 07:31:37 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA20740 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 07:30:39 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA28028 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 07:30:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wVHoD-000390C; Sat, 24 May 97 07:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 24 May 1997 09:58:55 +0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: adarylp@mozart.inet.co.th (EneSys) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Spam filter for pine X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Although I do almost all my mail off-line with Yarn, my shell account uses Pine. Problem is, is it possible to config Pine to filter out spammy messages *before* they are downloaded? Can I write a filter to detect spam addresses and/or headline text (ie MONEY, MILLIONS, etc). Appreciate any help. Darryl * Please remove the first "a" from the address before replying. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 May 1997 09:25:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA17347 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 09:25:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA17842; Sat, 24 May 1997 09:25:18 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA08537; Sat, 24 May 1997 09:23:02 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA20808 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 09:22:48 -0700 Received: from happy.com (happy.com [38.241.225.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA02116 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 09:22:46 -0700 Received: by gateway.happy.com id <18437>; Sat, 24 May 1997 12:07:57 -0400 Message-Id: <97May24.120757edt.18437@gateway.happy.com> Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 12:20:59 -0400 Reply-To: SandraB Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: SandraB To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: List of Error messages? In-Reply-To: <33847D2D.2246@bluemarble.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Beelzebub X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I do not know of a list of error messages. However, I believe that an error 452 pertains to a receiver on a distribution list not being found. Without knowing any more of your send details, I'll just say "start here": Was your user trying to send to a list of people from one of your Distribution lists in an addressbook? If so, proofread the list of names. Make sure there are no typos and that everyone on the list is a valid user with an account on your system. Hope that helps. Sandra ************************************************************************ Sandra Brust sandrab@happy.com Happy Harry's, Inc. (302) 366-0335 ext. 224 People often find it easier to be a result of the past than a cause of the future. On Thu, 22 May 1997, Beelzebub wrote: > > We have had some problems with users getting error 452 when sending > mail. I was wondering if there was a list available of what all of the > error messages in Pine mean. I looked through their web site, and > although there were a few other people who experienced this error, there > was no answer as to what it means there. > > Thanks for your help. > > Jody > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 May 1997 14:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA07296 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 14:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA23029; Sat, 24 May 1997 14:12:42 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA17585; Sat, 24 May 1997 14:03:39 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA61832 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 14:03:22 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA05502 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 14:03:21 -0700 Received: from sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu (sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu [130.74.1.71]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA22927 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 14:03:18 -0700 Received: from localhost by sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/951211.SGI) for id QAA07481; Sat, 24 May 1997 16:03:16 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 16:03:16 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Andrew McHugh Gordon To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Missing Inbox (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I hope you can help me retrieve my INBOX, (please read forwarded message below). Thank you, Andrew Gordon agordon@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu University of Mississippi Department of Music (601)232-7268 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 15:30:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Andrew McHugh Gordon To: root@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu Subject: Re: Missing Inbox I logged on to sunset today (Saturday at about 3 PM) and was shocked to find that my INBOX (about two years worth of saved messages which were sent to me) is missing, meaning, at the top, it said 0 of 0 messages. Something must have happened within the past 12 to 20 hours, as this INBOX was accesible to me yesterday (Friday). If there is any way to retrieve/restore all of the messages saved in this INBOX, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE restore them. I can be reached at 232-3371 and will be happy to cooperate in trying to get my INBOX back. (I called one of my professors and he told me to write to this address, saying that a back-up tape, which is constantly updated, might have my messages?) Andrew Gordon agordon@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu University of Mississippi Department of Music (601)232-7268 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 May 1997 21:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA21409 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 21:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA27630; Sat, 24 May 1997 21:47:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA28740; Sat, 24 May 1997 21:45:15 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA73510 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 21:44:15 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id VAA02756 for ; Sat, 24 May 1997 21:44:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wVV5c-00038vC; Sat, 24 May 97 21:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 11:56:30 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Welch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Spam filter for pine In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I use procmail to do exactly that. procmail is a utility that is on most UNIX boxes. Type - at the system prompt - man procmail to get instructions. It's fairly arcane and rich in features. On 24 May 1997, EneSys wrote: > Although I do almost all my mail off-line with Yarn, my shell account uses > Pine. Problem is, is it possible to config Pine to filter out spammy > messages *before* they are downloaded? Can I write a filter to detect > spam addresses and/or headline text (ie MONEY, MILLIONS, etc). > > Appreciate any help. > > Darryl > > * Please remove the first "a" from the address > before replying. > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 May 1997 01:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA18731 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 01:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA28083; Sun, 25 May 1997 01:17:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA26745; Sun, 25 May 1997 01:15:06 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA61814 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 01:14:53 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA08279 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 01:14:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wVYQ0-00038vC; Sun, 25 May 97 01:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 13:59:21 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jorge Juarez Xospa To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: .foreward ?? In-Reply-To: <5lugok$q0e@aragorn.mdh.se> References: <5lugok$q0e@aragorn.mdh.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN My be because is .forward ..... jjx On 21 May 1997, Bussiga Boran wrote: > In article , > Travis Vitek writes: > > > I have created a file called .foreward in my $HOME directory which > > contains the e-mail address that I want my mail to be sent to. But this > > doesn't work. > > You should name it: > .forward > (that's without an 'e') > > -- > /Bussiga Boran > ************************************************************** > 'All I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power' > -- Ashleigh Brilliant > ************************************************************** > > ------------------------------------------------ jojuarez@server.contad.unam.mx Administracion de la Red FCA-UNAM http://server.contad.unam.mx CIFCA-ADMRED ------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 May 1997 03:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA23016 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 03:02:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA01026; Sun, 25 May 1997 03:02:49 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA27747; Sun, 25 May 1997 03:00:40 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA42462 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 03:00:09 -0700 Received: from shivax.cac.washington.edu (shivax.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.4]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA28480 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 03:00:08 -0700 Received: (from skramer@localhost) by shivax.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) id DAA13296 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 25 May 1997 03:00:07 -0700 Message-Id: <199705251000.DAA13296@shivax.cac.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 03:00:07 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: pine-robot@docserver.cac.washington.edu To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: WHERE TO FIND INFORMATION ABOUT PINE X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is being sent to this mailing list weekly in order to aid readers in finding information about Pine. Before sending questions to the mailing list -- which is mirrored in the newsgroup comp.mail.pine -- please consult these resources: The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive help. Additional information, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, Questions & Answers, where to obtain the Pine software, what tools are available to perform tasks that Pine itself does not, and more, can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form. - The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[] The messages from this mailing list/newsgroup are archived. These archives can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ (includes a searchable index of all archived messages, and information on how to subscribe to this mailing list) - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/pine-info/. - From within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[] If you have a question about Pine, chances are it has been asked before and you can find the answer either through the searchable index of past messages, or among the "Questions & Answers" at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/ or ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/QandA.txt If you need personal assistance with using or configuring Pine, contact the technical support staff or computer help desk of your Internet Service Provider, school, university, employer, ... -- whichever organization provided you with the email account on which you are using, or planning on using, Pine. Because system functions and configuration can vary from site to site, they are best qualified to assist you. (Due to the large number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington cannot provide individual support services to Pine users at other organizations.) Sun May 25 03:00:07 PDT 1997 ----------------------------------- Pine development and support team University of Washington Computing & Communications ----------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 May 1997 06:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA24779 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 06:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA03604; Sun, 25 May 1997 06:49:22 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA06792; Sun, 25 May 1997 06:46:57 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA36840 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 06:46:02 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id GAA12957 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 06:46:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wVdZr-00038vC; Sun, 25 May 97 06:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5m9fgc$4vm$1@nadine.teleport.com> Date: 25 May 1997 13:40:28 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Guy Meacham To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: how can I reply my e-mail while I'm on a vocation References: <338801D4.41C6@study.haifa.ac.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 25 May 1997 09:09:41 GMT Dr Doom wrote: : I looking for a sofftware that will auto reply my e-mail while I'm on my : vocation. I read somewhere that there is a unix software named : "vocation" that can do it, how does it work? : : thanks :) : -- : Adi Chokler : Mailto:achokler@study.haifa.ac.il : "The future is so bright you should wear shades" The program is Vacation and is very easy to use if your provider has it installed. Type man vacation at the unix prompt for instructions. -- Guy Meacham.......................finger -l meacham@teleport.com Rippingale Nursery...............http://www.rippingale.com/~meacham/ . "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- Benjamin Disraeli (1804-1881) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 May 1997 06:49:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA24936 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 06:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA01874; Sun, 25 May 1997 06:49:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA06766; Sun, 25 May 1997 06:46:36 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA36826 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 06:45:58 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id GAA04489 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 06:45:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wVdau-00038yC; Sun, 25 May 97 06:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5m9fm3$4vm$2@nadine.teleport.com> Date: 25 May 1997 13:43:31 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Guy Meacham To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: signature References: <33880346.167E@study.haifa.ac.il> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 25 May 1997 09:15:50 GMT Dr Doom wrote: : John Tyson Littlejohn wrote: : > : > Hi : > : > This may be a simple question, but how do I get my signature to come at : > the bottom of the page instead of the top, which will save me the trouble : > of cutting and pasting. : > : > Thanks, : > John There is an option for this in Pne set up, simply go to set up from the main screen go through the options until you find sig at bottom then check it. -- Guy Meacham.......................finger -l meacham@teleport.com Rippingale Nursery...............http://www.rippingale.com/~meacham/ . "Sure there are dishonest men in local government. But there are dishonest men in national government too." -- Richard M. Nixon From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 May 1997 06:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA13343 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 06:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA01892; Sun, 25 May 1997 06:50:40 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA00988; Sun, 25 May 1997 06:47:30 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA20884 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 06:47:21 -0700 Received: from mail.bcpl.lib.md.us (mail.bcpl.lib.md.us [204.255.212.10]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id GAA04548 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 06:47:20 -0700 Received: from localhost by mail.bcpl.lib.md.us (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA25268; Sun, 25 May 1997 09:45:48 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 09:45:48 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Chip Old To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Missing Inbox (fwd) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This isn't really a Pine issue, it's something you need to take up with your local System Administrator. The only way to retrieve your lost messages is for the Sys Admin to restore your mail spool file (your Inbox) from a backup tape. However, your Sys Admin will probably tell you (and rightfully so) that you shouldn't be storing messages in your Inbox, especially two years worth. Your mail spool file (your Inbox) is meant as a temporary holding file for new messages. It isn't meant for permanent storage. Even on a system with lots of disk space, the file system containing all users' mail spool files has a finite amout of space available to it. If all users on the system use their Inboxes for general message storage as you have done, that space can fill up. When the file system fills up, the mail delivery system ceases to function. No Sys Admin can allow that to happen, so most Sys Admins will delete huge mail spool files rather than allow them to bring down mail delivery. Check with your Sys Admin to find out what his/her policy is on that. If you want to keep old messages, use Pine's "S" command to save them to "saved-mail" folders. This stores them within the "~/mail" directory within your own home directory. On most systems this is on a different file system (disk partition) than the one mail spool files are stored on, so the space impact doesn't threaten the performance of the mail delivery system. On Sat, 24 May 1997, Andrew McHugh Gordon wrote: > I hope you can help me retrieve my INBOX, (please read forwarded message > below). > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 15:30:55 -0500 (CDT) > From: Andrew McHugh Gordon > To: root@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu > Subject: Re: Missing Inbox > > I logged on to sunset today (Saturday at about 3 PM) and was shocked to > find that my INBOX (about two years worth of saved messages which were > sent to me) is missing, meaning, at the top, it said 0 of 0 messages. > Something must have happened within the past 12 to 20 hours, as this INBOX > was accesible to me yesterday (Friday). > > If there is any way to retrieve/restore all of the messages saved in this > INBOX, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE restore them. I can be reached at 232-3371 > and will be happy to cooperate in trying to get my INBOX back. > > (I called one of my professors and he told me to write to this address, > saying that a back-up tape, which is constantly updated, might have my > messages?) ------------------------------------------------------------------- Chip Old (Francis E. Old) fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Administrator, Internetworking Services Voice: 410-887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: 410-887-2091 320 York Road ICBM: 39.39910 North Towson, Maryland 21204 U.S.A. 76.60300 West From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 May 1997 10:20:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA25178 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 10:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA04159; Sun, 25 May 1997 10:20:43 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA05976; Sun, 25 May 1997 10:18:25 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA59922 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 10:18:00 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA19881 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 10:17:58 -0700 Received: from alpha.delta.edu (alpha.delta.edu [161.133.129.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA05836 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 10:17:56 -0700 Received: from localhost by alpha.delta.edu; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/06Jan97-0932AM) id AA24313; Sun, 25 May 1997 13:18:04 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 13:18:04 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael J Mcquaid To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Need help with new enabling of local email, per. addr. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, to the Pine development team at the Univ . of Wash. I would greatly be thankful if you could help me with one simple task with understanding our new local modem and alpha computer system here. I call the new local number #839-2623, and find it unable to call up my pine program with which I am familiar with for about two years now. I have emailed my systems administrator a couple of times from another long distance number link, but he must be so busy with answering everyone eles questions, mine is a low priority maybe? But any way I would be greatly appreatative if you or some one from the Pine Devolp. team could help me solve this ( I know, very small problem ) Thank You for you time. Respectfully, Mike McQuaid, From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 May 1997 10:49:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA25674 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 10:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA06224; Sun, 25 May 1997 10:49:41 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA13230; Sun, 25 May 1997 10:47:35 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA18756 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 10:47:23 -0700 Received: from enrico.ied.com (root@miranda.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.198.63]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA26672 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 10:47:20 -0700 Received: from ann.ied.com (ann.ied.com [192.168.200.20]) by enrico.ied.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA22441 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 13:47:15 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 13:41:13 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Jan Vicherek Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jan Vicherek To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: customized From: field in "OPTION: Customized-Headers" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi. I'm sick and tired of receiving email spams. Every time I post something to the usenet or email to some public mailing list, I get on average about 70 email spams. I hate spamming. Please help me. I want to disguise my email address in the from field, so that only people who actually read my msgs can find out the real email address. I tried to add "From:" into customized headers of pine-3.96, but it didn't show up. Please email me patch or something so that I could use that customized From: field. Thanx, Jan PS: please CC replies to honza@ied.com as I'm not subscribed to the list. -- Gospel of Jesus is the saving power of God for all who believe -- Jan Vicherek ## To some, nothing is impossible. ## www.ied.com/~honza >>> Free Software Union President ... www.fslu.org <<< Interactive Electronic Design Inc. -#- PGP: finger honza@ied.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 May 1997 14:55:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA28069 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 14:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA06961; Sun, 25 May 1997 14:55:24 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA27752; Sun, 25 May 1997 14:53:10 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA27218 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 14:52:49 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA29979 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 14:52:48 -0700 Received: from mailhub.icx.net (mailhub.icx.net [206.96.250.12]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA08775 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 14:52:45 -0700 Received: from LOCALNAME (pm3p.icx.net [206.96.250.97]) by mailhub.icx.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA20414 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 17:52:43 -0400 Message-Id: <3388D146.BC8@icx.net> Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 16:54:46 -0700 Reply-To: vonhalle@icx.net Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Elizabeth Von Halle To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Reading octet-stream attachments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Der Pine People, At work, I used to get my email from a UNIX-based system, then management switched me to Pine. I am having a steep learning curve, because (1) I am a slow learner when it comes to computer "stuff" (2) I was not given instructions as to how to attach files (I do not have PPP and FTP/IP access). (3) I often get attachments in octet-stream which I can save to some file, but no instructions as to how to get to that file. (4) when I forward those email messages with octet-stream attachments to my present ISP, I still cannot read the attachments. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Elizabeth S. Von Halle vonhallees@ornl.gov vonhalle@icx.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 May 1997 15:59:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA27437 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 15:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA09481; Sun, 25 May 1997 15:59:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA21615; Sun, 25 May 1997 15:57:14 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA43046 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 15:56:57 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA02626 for ; Sun, 25 May 1997 15:56:55 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 26 May 97 00:56:40 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA01576; Mon, 26 May 1997 00:08:37 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 00:08:30 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: Robin S Socha Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Reading octet-stream attachments In-Reply-To: <3388D146.BC8@icx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Elizabeth Von Halle X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sun, 25 May 1997, Elizabeth Von Halle wrote: >Der Pine People, Nicht die? Oder das? >At work, I used to get my email from a UNIX-based system, then management >switched me to Pine. Unless you're working with PC pine, pine *is* u*ix based. =8-0 >I am having a steep learning curve, because >(1) I am a slow learner when it comes to computer "stuff" >(2) I was not given instructions as to how to attach files (I do not >have PPP and FTP/IP access). Get the Pine FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) from the usual place: Pine Information Center: http://www.washington.edu/pine >(3) I often get attachments in octet-stream which I can save to some >file, but no instructions as to how to get to that file. Well, pine tells you where it puts them: Copy attachment to file in home directory: foo.bar So they go to your home directory. You can get there by saying: cd ~/ and view the contents of the dir by saying: ls -alF To copy those to disk, you need either the mtool-kit (try saying mdir to check if you have them --- if so, you can use mdir, mcopy, mdelete and so on, like in a Dos environment) or a permission to mount a floppy. As an alternative (and if your local support people can get the prog running, you can try using the Unix Commander which has a similar functionality afaik. >(4) when I forward those email messages with octet-stream attachments to >my present ISP, I still cannot read the attachments. You probably need an external program to "read" them. In pine, when you're reading the message, say: V ViewAttch V [View] # if that doesn't work, say: S Save Provided your /etc/mailcap is set up correctly, an application will be launched that is capable of displaying the attachment, like, say, Notscape for HTML etc. However, you normally won't be able to display e.g. Word "documents", because there aren't too many programs around that can read them (which is a Good Thing (tm) ). Hope that helps. Cheers, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM4i4YWe8+XvDOeNZAQGLQAf+NkbNFu4MxrUzVIKvKvaOGoP2e83KVEE1 PratgSYw9LjQ1x/bIl9Fl6OrBZ3UsX5UJvhoBj5fF1UFcm6JXnhzvYD/wD4ubHQb na6DIAX8IdEDLqTjPtpp5cBQvNQBlw+HiXz+4gTJk/pRoBGDGY6a9e7VKNmgXYC+ RH+D8+DHfHeUyV0EcF4X9hpl6iSemOwNeeo5ZnxMDAsgupkAO8rxfXvv55DwEjOB TVJDr3S1UG9x5U3godj650u3kWd2DSMNm5IVkCWLE5xMWmNTXToZVD5pnq7bRN5U NKSXNK9fQr2aIxpQy/HqAJZFU/bxcw5lmcaO534ihHlVp7l8573aHw== =71OP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 May 1997 00:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA23115 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 00:28:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA13133; Mon, 26 May 1997 00:28:40 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id AAA26921; Mon, 26 May 1997 00:25:45 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id AAA52618 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 00:25:11 -0700 Received: from suntan.tandem.com (suntan.tandem.com [192.216.221.8]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id AAA25528 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 00:25:09 -0700 Received: from adm.loc201.tandem.com by suntan.tandem.com (8.6.12/suntan5.970212) for id AAA29774; Mon, 26 May 1997 00:25:07 -0700 Received: from idc.tandem.com (adm.idc.tandem.com) by adm.loc201.tandem.com (4.1/6main.940209) id AA01384; Mon, 26 May 97 00:25:00 PDT Received: from Indus. idc.tandem.com (Indus.idc.tandem.com) by idc.tandem.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02700; Mon, 26 May 97 12:54:02+050 Received: from Mula by Indus. idc.tandem.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05233; Mon, 26 May 97 12:51:47+050 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 12:50:46 +0530 (GMT+0530) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Vani P.S" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: help : printout Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: vanips@Mula X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN hi all , i am using pine 3.95 , how to take printout of the mails with only the message text and eliminate the header info. The sender and the list of receivers should not appear in the printout . i am using a network printer and hence setup the printer name and the command for this purpose in pine setup. please help. tia, vani. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 May 1997 01:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA25704 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 01:59:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA15964; Mon, 26 May 1997 01:59:44 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA28416; Mon, 26 May 1997 01:57:27 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA57152 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 01:57:10 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA27970 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 01:57:09 -0700 Received: from ceylon.informatik.uni-rostock.de (ceylon.informatik.uni-rostock.de [139.30.5.237]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA14202 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 01:57:06 -0700 Received: from bill (bill [139.30.3.238]) by ceylon.informatik.uni-rostock.de (8.8.5/8.8.5/relay3.0) with SMTP id KAA27598; Mon, 26 May 1997 10:57:01 +0200 Message-Id: <3389505C.75B5@informatik.uni-rostock.de> Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 10:57:00 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Dmitro Soloviov To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: email database and search engine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: sds@informatik.uni-rostock.de X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dmitrey Soloviov E-MAIL: sds@informatik.uni-rostock.de ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 May 1997 03:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA00831 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 03:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA17014; Mon, 26 May 1997 03:32:43 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA05328; Mon, 26 May 1997 03:30:38 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA56030 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 03:30:18 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id DAA27141 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 03:30:16 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 26 May 97 12:30:01 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA05000; Mon, 26 May 1997 10:30:36 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 10:30:35 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help : printout In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Vani P.S" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 26 May 1997, Vani P.S wrote: > i am using pine 3.95 , how to take printout of the mails with only the > message text and eliminate the header info. The sender and the list of > receivers should not appear in the printout . > i am using a network printer and hence setup the printer name and the > command for this purpose in pine setup. Use a custom print command: Y prYnt C CustomPrint #this has to be enabled in the setup then pipe the message through something like this: grep -v "From" | grep -v "Subject:" | lpr This is really ugly, but it should work ;-) and I'm a little too busy to dig up something cooler... Check the grep man page for nifty enhancements and share them with us >;-> or, better yet, get a perl guy to work for you. Later, Robin -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 May 1997 04:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA30209 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 04:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA15749; Mon, 26 May 1997 04:12:02 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA05732; Mon, 26 May 1997 04:08:40 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA49304 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 04:08:25 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id EAA28153 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 04:08:23 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 26 May 97 13:08:08 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA05699; Mon, 26 May 1997 12:30:36 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 12:30:29 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: email database and search engine In-Reply-To: <3389505C.75B5@informatik.uni-rostock.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Dmitro Soloviov X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 26 May 1997, Dmitro Soloviov wrote: >Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 10:57:00 +0200 >From: Dmitro Soloviov >To: Pine Discussion Forum >Subject: email database and search engine Alles klar, Dmitro/Dmitrey oder was auch immer... Kannste haben, mein Junge, aber erstmal lernst Du, richtig zu schreiben, ok? Den Quatsch hier kann keiner brauchen :-/ >-- >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Dmitrey Soloviov >E-MAIL: sds@informatik.uni-rostock.de >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Cheers, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM4lmSGe8+XvDOeNZAQGSZAf+MGAS1QANvmNwVLZQikHaiqu5RqH/kkyx LPqdEF2JQQaC3obJu8VmNshUKt8ELsMTSGDyZcjvyo//QEPiOUJTaS9y9OQ6FG7O XPbZzmLdbOFfH0t1KzqnjdAv3/Cv7DvSBk2DpOvsyp6rdDZ5Zd+MbWzSDKBxyO7y o56NtYMLgshN4rES9A3VIpghcAtddq1yVW255O/S+y2+aHH9CdVokINkbEjmuw2V rxJFkATTZQ68LurSpnAPGBhzrgsiHdvbEeQJZKDYlDFIsMHpKR/91x2gRH6TEUsZ +Gb0c39QG+Udm7ZtJhG8mZRVeXVt+C0Kaxkkqv4dDLQCMLkHSPSW3Q== =xBiU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 May 1997 05:51:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA17553 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 05:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA16803; Mon, 26 May 1997 05:51:07 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA06893; Mon, 26 May 1997 05:44:25 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA31340 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 05:44:11 -0700 Received: from abaco.coastalnet.com (abaco.coastalnet.com [204.183.40.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA04473 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 05:44:09 -0700 Received: from localhost (joey@localhost) by abaco.coastalnet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA07727; Mon, 26 May 1997 08:42:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 08:42:16 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe Young To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help : printout In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robin S Socha X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN One way is export file, edit to remove header info etc and then print. Example of edited file below. Little inconvience to doit this was but it works: ********>>>edited file with header and foot remove<<<<<<******* > i am using pine 3.95 , how to take printout of the mails with only the > message text and eliminate the header info. The sender and the list of > receivers should not appear in the printout . > i am using a network printer and hence setup the printer name and the > command for this purpose in pine setup. Use a custom print command: Y prYnt C CustomPrint #this has to be enabled in the setup then pipe the message through something like this: grep -v "From" | grep -v "Subject:" | lpr This is really ugly, but it should work ;-) and I'm a little too busy to dig up something cooler... Check the grep man page for nifty enhancements and share them with us >;-> or, better yet, get a perl guy to work for you. end of edited file<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>> Then printit. Joe Young New Bern, N.C. On Mon, 26 May 1997, Robin S Socha wrote: > On Mon, 26 May 1997, Vani P.S wrote: > > > i am using pine 3.95 , how to take printout of the mails with only the > > message text and eliminate the header info. The sender and the list of > > receivers should not appear in the printout . > > i am using a network printer and hence setup the printer name and the > > command for this purpose in pine setup. > > Use a custom print command: > > Y prYnt > C CustomPrint #this has to be enabled in the setup > > then pipe the message through something like this: > > grep -v "From" | grep -v "Subject:" | lpr > > This is really ugly, but it should work ;-) and I'm a little too busy to dig > up something cooler... Check the grep man page for nifty enhancements and > share them with us >;-> or, better yet, get a perl guy to work for you. > > Later, > Robin > > > -- > Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn > To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" > GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ > PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 May 1997 07:33:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA26179 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 07:33:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA19801; Mon, 26 May 1997 07:33:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA03906; Mon, 26 May 1997 07:30:22 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA60154 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 07:30:05 -0700 Received: from hub.org (root@hub.org [207.107.138.200]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA05531 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 07:30:03 -0700 Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by hub.org (8.8.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id KAA06154 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 10:30:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 10:30:18 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: roblem detected: "Received abort signal". MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi... I have pine 3.96 installed and running on a couple of Sparc's, one running Solaris 2.5.1 and one running SunOS 5.4, and both seem to Panic quite regularily. My most recent 'repeatable' one involves replying to email sent to me: Problem detected: "Received abort signal". Pine Exiting. Abort .pine-debug# shows: === send called === ---- COMPOSER ---- new win size -----<57 80>------ Want_to read: y (121) new win size -----<57 80>------ about to end_tty_driver Pine Panic: Received abort signal Is anyone else noticing a similar problem? Anything I should look at on this end to help debug? Thanks... Marc G. 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Send to: Photo Phoenix International Branch Office 1190 North Collier Blvd. Marco Island, Florida 34145 (941) 642-9660 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 May 1997 12:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA05335 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 12:52:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA23740; Mon, 26 May 1997 12:52:49 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA15113; Mon, 26 May 1997 12:49:31 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA60638 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 12:48:59 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA20980 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 12:48:57 -0700 Received: from sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu (sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu [130.74.1.71]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA23681 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 12:48:55 -0700 Received: from localhost by sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/951211.SGI) for id OAA26983; Mon, 26 May 1997 14:05:44 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 14:05:44 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Andrew McHugh Gordon To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Missing Inbox (fwd) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thank you for whatever you did to get my INBOX back, I am totally relieved to see it here on the screen once again :) If this makes no sense, then just know I appreciate your, or whoever's, good deed. Andrew Gordon agordon@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu University of Mississippi Department of Music (601)232-7268 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 May 1997 12:54:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA05338 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 12:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA21774; Mon, 26 May 1997 12:54:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA19985; Mon, 26 May 1997 12:51:48 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA60436 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 12:51:13 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA21100 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 12:51:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wW5j0-000393C; Mon, 26 May 97 12:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 02:43:19 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Patsy & Peter To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: How to setup PC-PINE config? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm Using NCSA Telnet. How to set DOS environment and PINE configuration? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 May 1997 15:48:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA30660 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 15:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA25907; Mon, 26 May 1997 15:48:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA25639; Mon, 26 May 1997 15:45:40 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA74754 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 15:45:26 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA19089 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 15:45:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wW8Vt-000394C; Mon, 26 May 97 15:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 19:13:14 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Peter Karlsson To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: PC-Pine 3.96 and MIME'ified Date: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 26 May 1997, Torbjörn Carlsson wrote: > Date: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mon=2C_21_Apr_1997_16=3A51=3A15_+0200_=28V=E4s?= > =?iso-8895-1?Q?tra_Europa=2C_sommartid=29?= Seems like a bug to me. Instead of picking up the shortname for the time zone (CEST), it picks up the long name (Västra Europa sommartid), which probably isn't what is wanted. -- \\// Peter - http://nafmo.home.ml.org/ - ICQ UIN 762719 - Association Against Big .sigs From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 May 1997 16:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA23701 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 16:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA26504; Mon, 26 May 1997 16:34:17 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA62420; Mon, 26 May 1997 16:31:17 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA62218 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 16:30:45 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA21240 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 16:30:43 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 27 May 97 01:30:26 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id BAA03578; Tue, 27 May 1997 01:09:34 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 01:09:26 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How to setup PC-PINE config? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Patsy & Peter X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 27 May 1997, Patsy & Peter wrote: >I'm Using NCSA Telnet. How to set DOS environment and PINE configuration? It's quite easy. You'll find a detailled description in the pine-faq which can be got from: http://www.washington.edu/pine Check for NCSA, and you'll find all you need. HTH, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM4oYKme8+XvDOeNZAQHcWwf8CJjMem2br0u+Pxf1X0FqIg3MyTL9pwvj pke/Lg8NKm7ro7K5UQR8d1PjjElBXRJGpI/X+U/h0c7HXHfNcaS7AHXh/nXTQKpU cX5jIa3KPvlJ5sLHsyunX1+sv1oY+gzljT9vzN+bcWP6M3SaN+GXUwwMJJs8f10+ hYsCtoWTiBms6kICuvcCr+D2OLtTSXBDWJRGs1rocJMa9E51cxvKqYQ+Igw9fe/u EuKs2pOwOmSsXsYKw99V+lMH/2Ob6Nf98J5GLVkIcITiFJGP/qCarYNpQ+/gDXRl eCDmnyhTMXIbwyx6NuMLArON4bNMvrhcsy8tL5bPyFT825QD6+S4+A== =74/C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 May 1997 21:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA08428 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 21:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA29965; Mon, 26 May 1997 21:24:15 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA06134; Mon, 26 May 1997 21:21:44 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA74908 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 21:21:20 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id VAA18147 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 21:21:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wWDjc-000396C; Mon, 26 May 97 21:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5m87ct$gc0$1@news-sj-2.cisco.com> Date: 25 May 1997 02:15:57 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Abhay Roy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: + mark signifying mails to you X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Pine has this nice way of showing a + sign, in front of every mails which has your address in the To: field. But it doesn't see the Cc: list. If there was way (feature / hidden feature) to make it look at both To: and Cc: list to show the + sign ? Regards, -Roy- #=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-# | Abhay Kumar Roy, Software Engineer | | Cisco Systems Inc. Phone : (408) 527 2028 (o) | | "Never forget that your weapon is made by the lowest bidder" | #=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-# From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 May 1997 22:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA07988 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 22:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA00804; Mon, 26 May 1997 22:27:43 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA03799; Mon, 26 May 1997 22:26:06 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA60532 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 22:25:49 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA22503 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 22:25:48 -0700 Received: from case.vkool.com (m2-30.baystreet.com [207.102.243.30]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id WAA28445 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 22:25:45 -0700 Received: from [204.244.146.25] (HELO chill.org.chill.org) by case.vkool.com (AltaVista Mail V2.0/2.0 BL23 listener) id 0000_0055_338a_739a_3399; Mon, 26 May 1997 22:39:38 -0700 Message-Id: <338A6E2B.31A6@vkool.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 22:16:27 -0700 Reply-To: grapeman@vkool.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: The Grapeman To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: need an address! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Can anyone tell me Morris Berman's email address? I'm an old student of his who needs some help. Thanks, Colin Welch grapeman@vkool.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 May 1997 22:56:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA09551 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 22:56:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA01309; Mon, 26 May 1997 22:56:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA09256; Mon, 26 May 1997 22:54:25 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA74772 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 22:54:08 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id WAA23641 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 22:54:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wWF9M-000396C; Mon, 26 May 97 22:50 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5m810t$gql$1@news.chatlink.com> Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 07:27:04 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: shadow01@aracnet.com (The Shadow) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Spam filter for pine References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Well, now that I've read all of the WRONG solutions to your problem, maybe I can offer you and everyone else a solution that REALLY WORKS, and not only that, but by using this method, you will improve the over-all internet performance by doing it. The RIGHT solution is to use one of the outside E-Mail filtering services. They will remove your name from the mailing lists BEFORE they ever get sent out over the net. They will not interfere in any way with your normal E-Mail, and they are a whole lot easier, since once you sign up, you forget about your problem once and for all. They do charge a small one time sign up fee, but if your time and sanity is worth anything, it is very miniscule. I have been spam-free for over 2 years now, and if more people would spread the word about these services, we could pretty much end this endless discussion forever. The one I use can be found at: http://205.139.105.240/~d_troy/page2.html adarylp@mozart.inet.co.th (EneSys) wrote in message : >Although I do almost all my mail off-line with Yarn, my shell account uses >Pine. Problem is, is it possible to config Pine to filter out spammy >messages *before* they are downloaded? Can I write a filter to detect >spam addresses and/or headline text (ie MONEY, MILLIONS, etc). > >Appreciate any help. > >Darryl > >* Please remove the first "a" from the address >before replying. > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 May 1997 23:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA32616 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 23:30:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA29365; Mon, 26 May 1997 23:30:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA10409; Mon, 26 May 1997 23:28:16 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA18836 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 23:27:56 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA21515 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 23:27:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wWFdw-000396C; Mon, 26 May 97 23:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 17:59:45 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Yong-Yeow Yeoh To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: SMTP/POP problem Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've been trying to use pine to access a remote smtp/pop server, and I have the following problem: The mail that I send has the wrong From: field. More precisely, that filed is set to @, where is correct (the smtp host, presumably because I set this as the user-domain setting in the configuration), but is wrong (i.e., it shows up as the username on the machine I am using pine on, not the username of the pop account). (As you can see, the From: field in this is wrong, by the Reply to: field (which I set manually) is correct). Any ideas? Thanks. -YYY From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 May 1997 23:34:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA09225 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 23:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA29398; Mon, 26 May 1997 23:34:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA06021; Mon, 26 May 1997 23:32:30 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA55812 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 23:32:13 -0700 Received: from mail.compulink.co.uk (mail.compulink.co.uk [194.153.0.20]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA21665 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 23:32:10 -0700 Received: from mayday.compulink.co.uk (root@mayday.compulink.co.uk [194.153.8.241]) by mail.compulink.co.uk (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id HAA08037 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 07:31:53 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 22892 invoked by uid 400); 27 May 1997 05:40:12 -0000 Message-Id: <4c39d5deb9f9994b4d54912582d56d9a> Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 06:39:52 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robert de Bath" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help : printout In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robin S Socha X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-URL: http://www.cix.co.uk/~mayday X-Dev86-Version: 0.12.1 X-Alternate-address: User rdebath on machine cix.co.uk X-Mailer: Pine 3.95q for Linux X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN One custom print command coming right up ... #-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- sed -n '/^$/,$p' | lpr #-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Just either type it in directly or put it in a script file. In a scipt file you could also do: sed -n '/^$/,$p' | tail +2 | lpr -- Rob. (Robert de Bath ) On Mon, 26 May 1997, Robin S Socha wrote: > On Mon, 26 May 1997, Vani P.S wrote: > > > i am using pine 3.95 , how to take printout of the mails with only the > > message text and eliminate the header info. The sender and the list of > > receivers should not appear in the printout . > > i am using a network printer and hence setup the printer name and the > > command for this purpose in pine setup. > > Use a custom print command: > > Y prYnt > C CustomPrint #this has to be enabled in the setup > > then pipe the message through something like this: > > grep -v "From" | grep -v "Subject:" | lpr > > This is really ugly, but it should work ;-) and I'm a little too busy to dig > up something cooler... Check the grep man page for nifty enhancements and > share them with us >;-> or, better yet, get a perl guy to work for you. > > Later, > Robin > > > -- > Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn > To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" > GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ > PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 May 1997 23:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA09613 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 23:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA29610; Mon, 26 May 1997 23:55:46 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA06607; Mon, 26 May 1997 23:53:16 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA27704 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 23:53:03 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA11764 for ; Mon, 26 May 1997 23:53:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wWG3g-000396C; Mon, 26 May 97 23:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 23:21:27 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Donald Lee To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Any other "hints"? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I just dropped by this group after a long absence and quickly found out that by creating a file called .forward I can forward mail sent to my account at school to any other account that I might have. That's pretty cool......I was just wondering, if there were any other "tricks and tips" that I might be able to learn from other Pine users here?? A lot of the stuff I learned about Pine was either from friends or just experimenting and not from reading any documentation. So, I would appreciate anything anyone has to share. If you could email me as well as posting a reply, it would be appreciated as I'll be busy the next few days and might not have time to drop by and read the replies in the newsgroup. :) Thanks a million. -Don ____ /\ _`\ leed@sfsu.edu, donald41@juno.com \ \ \/\ \ ___ ___ http://userwww.sfsu.edu/~leed \ \ \ \ \ / __`\ /' _ `\ CIC Computer Services Team \ \ \_\ \/\ \_\ \/\ \/\ \ "How many times will love pass my by.... \ \____/\ \____/\ \_\ \_\ until I find you again?" -Richard Marx \/___/ \/___/ \/_/\/_/ Apple II User since 1983 PC User since 1996 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 1997 02:43:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA10837 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 02:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA03759; Tue, 27 May 1997 02:43:36 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA14137; Tue, 27 May 1997 02:36:25 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA56014 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 02:35:16 -0700 Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA00121 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 02:34:50 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 27 May 1997 10:32:53 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA07177; Tue, 27 May 1997 10:34:18 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 10:34:17 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: + mark signifying mails to you In-Reply-To: <5m87ct$gc0$1@news-sj-2.cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Abhay Roy X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN No, there isn't an option to make the "+" "direct to you" marker appear for messages cc'd to you. This is because the "+" means "direct to you"... in other words messages for which you are listed as a primary recipient (in the "To:" list). The marker serves to highlight and distinguish these from messages which are merely being cc'd to you (presumably for informational purposes), or in whose headers your address doesn't appear at all (eg, from a mailing list). Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On 25 May 1997, Abhay Roy wrote: > Pine has this nice way of showing a + sign, in front of every mails which > has your address in the To: field. But it doesn't see the Cc: list. If there > was way (feature / hidden feature) to make it look at both To: and Cc: list > to show the + sign ? > > Regards, > -Roy- > #=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-# > | Abhay Kumar Roy, Software Engineer | > | Cisco Systems Inc. Phone : (408) 527 2028 (o) | > | "Never forget that your weapon is made by the lowest bidder" | > #=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-# > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 1997 03:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA11546 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 03:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA01850; Tue, 27 May 1997 03:13:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA14586; Tue, 27 May 1997 03:11:16 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA18730 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 03:11:02 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA17989 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 03:11:01 -0700 Received: from mail.zip.com.au (root@mail.zip.com.au [203.12.97.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA01829 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 03:10:56 -0700 Received: from Firebird.zip.com.au (alicia13.zip.com.au [203.12.97.244]) by mail.zip.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA17178 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 20:09:44 +1000 Message-Id: <338AA445.1218@zip.com.au> Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 20:07:17 +1100 Reply-To: firebird@zip.com.au Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: John To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Binary MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Do you have a Binary decoder for windows 95? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 1997 03:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA12142 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 03:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA02116; Tue, 27 May 1997 03:38:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA10500; Tue, 27 May 1997 03:34:14 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA18838 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 03:33:56 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id DAA18505 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 03:33:52 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 27 May 97 12:33:32 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA07961; Tue, 27 May 1997 11:40:05 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 11:39:57 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Commercial spam, was [Re: Spam filter for pine] In-Reply-To: <5m810t$gql$1@news.chatlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: The Shadow X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Due to negligence, on Boomtime, the 1st day of Confusion in the YOLD 3163= =20 The Shadow let slip the following into my inbox of terror: This is a usenet newsgroup that is being gatewayed to a mailing list. There are some people out there who still stick to the netiquette (yeah, you don'= t know what *that* is, do you? Just keep posting this and you'll learn it the hard way...) and postings like yours are *NOT* welcome. You get it? Disguising it as serious help makes matters even worse and for that alone you deserve a little mail-bombing, just to see if your "service" is any good. Get a life... - --=20 Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** =09What the world needs now is killfiles that actually kill. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM4qr8Ge8+XvDOeNZAQGT5gf9GIWNYpiN19eQD41tmwfKN3Kq5AtXJ1++ y9zXXknAsLcBTKcYssrEAnocOpjms/4XD7LUjBjeV7rk6TvZmceUd4AFRxjjp7fA nDGj/8e3Z5srPQYmYhuJvkhU/u9XNnaXgWK4ud7HRCGpkWykLd8rNVxfM/VVK0ln JzyppYeiGlQm6DnONXCoeth4wzhuMj5QtBg/VrVjepFN1+lxP0rxuT+6f5oC/d6w E8O3B1MU2fspulrpQpOdySNrUgYPBy6H9lvvwVsQkjGV2n3vM9mVUzuD6e+/hQBJ 9o+5fdKir2xRrWixYUoVULxGUM+aNgD7+zDxlGRfnJJ5DB6jSFw1xw=3D=3D =3Dotg9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 1997 04:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA11966 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 04:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA02742; Tue, 27 May 1997 04:21:00 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA10919; Tue, 27 May 1997 04:12:41 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA43088 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 04:12:07 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id EAA19608 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 04:12:04 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 27 May 97 13:11:49 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA08460; Tue, 27 May 1997 12:44:21 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 12:44:21 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Binary In-Reply-To: <338AA445.1218@zip.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: John X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 27 May 1997, John wrote: >Do you have a Binary decoder for windows 95? Sure. It's called fdisk. -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn Microsoft isn't the answer. Microsoft is the question, and the answer is NO. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 1997 08:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA15806 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 08:19:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA05865; Tue, 27 May 1997 08:19:14 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA19850; Tue, 27 May 1997 08:13:28 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA35478 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 08:12:48 -0700 Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA16309 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 08:12:46 -0700 Received: from tuppence_cac (D-140-142-189-198.dhcp.washington.edu [140.142.189.198]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.03) with SMTP id IAA07742; Tue, 27 May 1997 08:12:39 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 08:14:17 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help : printout In-Reply-To: <4c39d5deb9f9994b4d54912582d56d9a> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robert de Bath X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Another approach would be to go to the attachment index (while looking at the message text, press V) and enter |lpr that is, pipe just the message body to lpr. -teg On Tue, 27 May 1997, Robert de Bath wrote: > One custom print command coming right up ... > > #-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > sed -n '/^$/,$p' | lpr > #-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > Just either type it in directly or put it in a script file. > > In a scipt file you could also do: > > sed -n '/^$/,$p' | tail +2 | lpr > > -- > Rob. (Robert de Bath ) > > On Mon, 26 May 1997, Robin S Socha wrote: > > > On Mon, 26 May 1997, Vani P.S wrote: > > > > > i am using pine 3.95 , how to take printout of the mails with only the > > > message text and eliminate the header info. The sender and the list of > > > receivers should not appear in the printout . > > > i am using a network printer and hence setup the printer name and the > > > command for this purpose in pine setup. > > > > Use a custom print command: > > > > Y prYnt > > C CustomPrint #this has to be enabled in the setup > > > > then pipe the message through something like this: > > > > grep -v "From" | grep -v "Subject:" | lpr > > > > This is really ugly, but it should work ;-) and I'm a little too busy to dig > > up something cooler... Check the grep man page for nifty enhancements and > > share them with us >;-> or, better yet, get a perl guy to work for you. > > > > Later, > > Robin > > > > > > -- > > Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn > > To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" > > GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ > > PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 1997 09:06:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA17137 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 09:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA06942; Tue, 27 May 1997 09:06:38 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA22560; Tue, 27 May 1997 08:57:41 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA56536 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 08:57:21 -0700 Received: from zipper.cisco.com (zipper.cisco.com [171.69.63.31]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA21878 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 08:57:19 -0700 Received: from localhost (akr@localhost) by zipper.cisco.com (8.8.4-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA12215; Tue, 27 May 1997 08:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 08:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: Abhay Roy Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Abhay Roy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: + mark signifying mails to you In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Brudenell X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 27 May 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: + No, there isn't an option to make the "+" "direct to you" marker appear + for messages cc'd to you. This is because the "+" means "direct to + you"... in other words messages for which you are listed as a primary + recipient (in the "To:" list). The marker serves to highlight and + distinguish these from messages which are merely being cc'd to you + (presumably for informational purposes), or in whose headers your address + doesn't appear at all (eg, from a mailing list). I understand. But I think *for informational purposes* is the part which I would like to disagree. It happens (way too many times), that we start a discussion by sending mail to (say) 5 people, with one name in the To, and others in Cc. As the discussion moves, people hit 'r' (and assume that all on list are *live* listeners). So it arrives in the mail folder of the person, who was *not* the last one to comment (so of course, he now moves in the Cc list). And now it is not + marked ;( (Well, you can argue, that probably you could screen the subject field .. but with me receiving well above 200 mails a day, I wouldn't prefer such a solution). So I think it might be wise to 1. Have + mark for Both To and Cc fields 2. (Ugly ?) Have + mark for To and - (unused so far ?) for Cc ? Regards, -Roy- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 1997 10:24:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA20009 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 10:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA11245; Tue, 27 May 1997 10:24:30 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA02269; Tue, 27 May 1997 10:19:54 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA22386 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 10:18:37 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA28758 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 10:18:34 -0700 Received: from donkeykong.rs.itd.umich.edu (smtp@donkeykong.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.63.19]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA11114 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 10:18:19 -0700 Received: by donkeykong.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/3.0-mailhub) id NAA03490; Tue, 27 May 1997 13:18:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lorraing@frogger.rs.itd.umich.edu(141.211.63.85) by donkeykong.rs.itd.umich.edu via smap (2.0-umich) id xma003368; Tue, 27 May 97 13:17:21 -0400 Received: from localhost by frogger.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/3.0-client) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 13:17:18 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Lorraine M. Gutierrez" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: underlines MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: lorraing@frogger.rs.itd.umich.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN suddenly all of my pine messages are appearing with underlines. how can I turn this off? How did this happen? Lorraine Gutierrez University of Michigan 313-936-9124 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 1997 12:43:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA09942 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 12:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA14669; Tue, 27 May 1997 12:43:47 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA08714; Tue, 27 May 1997 12:39:00 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA66110 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 12:38:30 -0700 Received: from arthur.cs.purdue.edu (0@arthur.cs.purdue.edu [128.10.2.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA14575 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 12:38:26 -0700 Received: from locutus.cs.purdue.edu (1485@locutus.cs.purdue.edu [128.10.2.45]) by arthur.cs.purdue.edu (8.8.4/PURDUE_CS-1.4) with ESMTP id OAA02204 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:38:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from simmonmt@localhost) by locutus.cs.purdue.edu (8.8.4/PURDUE_CS-1.4) id OAA20704; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:38:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: 27 May 1997 14:38:21 -0500 Reply-To: simmonmt@acm.org Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Matt Simmons To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: more info than films have In-Reply-To: lwright@symitar.com's message of Wed, 21 May 1997 08:18:11 -0700 (PDT) References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.52/XEmacs 19.15 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN lwright@symitar.com writes: > Hi- > I ordered and watched your films on PINE. I liked the way it was > presented. I felt they were excellent for the beginning user. However, I > did not see answers to some questions I have. I am writing an on-line > help reference guide for our company for our intranet and I do have a few > questions. They're making videos on the use of Pine? THat's one of the signs that the end is coming, right? =) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 1997 13:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA11491 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 13:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA13098; Tue, 27 May 1997 13:00:46 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA10725; Tue, 27 May 1997 12:56:19 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA72652 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 12:54:46 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA16296 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 12:54:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wWSCl-00038tC; Tue, 27 May 97 12:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <338bf525.10837885@news.toplink.net> Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 21:08:39 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: baiti@herrenberg.netsurf.de (Friedemann Baitinger) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: 3.96 still freezes References: <5lr2p5$qc02@musca.unm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN hamjavar@unm.edu (Farid Hamjavar) wrote: [...] > > Then 3.96 was released and it seems that > have fixed a lot of tty issues (at least with aix)... > But ... > > I still experience freeze of screen > when I try to get back after a "CntrlZ" .... > The length of these "CntrlZ" are within reasonable > time range like a minuet or two ... But upon foreground-ing > pine the session is completely/permanently > hung/frozen! And nothing usually is > logged to ~/.pine-debug[0-9] > > Is there any one of you with aix/pine (above versions) > still experiences these terminal-related problems? > > Is there a solution .... ? I am using PINE 3.96 at work on AIX 4.1.4 and it works exactly as it does on my Linux machine at home. Perhaps the reason why it works for me is because I always use it from within an 'xterm' on AIX as opposed to the 'dtterm' (which comes with CDE) or 'aixterm'. Have you tried to run PINE in an 'xterm' yet? If it still fails, I'd assume it is related to a termcap/terminfo. However, if I remember correctly, I did not make any changes to the makefiles. So the key question is I'd guess what terminal program are you using? -- Friedemann Baitinger baiti@herrenberg.netsurf.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:20:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA14049 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA15072; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:20:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA14745; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:16:20 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA33924 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:15:05 -0700 Received: from mail2.goodnet.com (104.good.net [207.98.129.104]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA11900 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:15:03 -0700 Received: from goodguy (goodnet.com [207.98.129.1]) by mail2.goodnet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA13808 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:12:05 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 14:14:56 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Kathleen P. Daily-Herrman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Attached-to-Ansi printing problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: kdh@goodguy X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi.. I've been trying something with fascinating results. I use unix pine mail on a dial up line through my ISP using Procomm (Windows 3.1). Ever since I upgraded to Windows 95, I've been unable to print from this program using the very commonly used "attached-to-ansi" feature. Very very frustrating to have a perfectly useful application rendered useless because of an upgrade. I'm using a Canon Bubble Jet 200e with the lastest printer drivers distributed by Canon and the printer in the spool settings set to raw, printing directly to the printer. The most important change that I made was the use of the "mkcompat.exe" file found in the Windows/System directory of WIN95. You can use this executable to force changes to the software. I enabled every feature (even the advanced) that had to do with printing and checked all the options I could in my pinerc file. I'm by no means finished but for the first time I've been able to print from my software in months. Give it a try..see if it makes a difference and refine it. Just wanted to share a little success in my little corner Kathleen From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA14471 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA17401; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:37:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA19440; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:34:16 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA62790 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:33:32 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA26323 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:33:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wWTn1-00038tC; Tue, 27 May 97 14:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <338cf888.11705276@news.toplink.net> Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 21:08:40 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: baiti@herrenberg.netsurf.de (Friedemann Baitinger) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA References: <33849588.12524149@desert.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN admin@desert.net.au (Allan Ware) wrote: > Can Someone tell me about this mail that is in every inbox on my > system please and how to get rid of it, it is buging the crap out of > me :) I had the same problem a few weeks ago and I also posted a message here which reads very similar to yours. It turned out to be the IMAP/POP3-server which came with the package: 'imap-4.1.BETA' (University of Washington). You're probably doing something similar to what I did: I accessed my mailbox, which resides on a Linux host, from a Win95 machine using the POP3 protocol. 'ipop3d' on the Linux machine put the 'Don't delete...' message in the INBOX on the Linux machine. It is used to maintain some state information regarding which messages have been accessed already by the client machine. You can safely delete the message. The worst thing which can happen is if you run your POP3 client again, it will re-fetch emails which it has seen already. Does this explain the problem good enough? -- Friedemann Baitinger baiti@herrenberg.netsurf.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:44:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA08952 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA17570; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:44:17 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA19835; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:40:54 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA02344 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:40:31 -0700 Received: from mail.compulink.co.uk (mail.compulink.co.uk [194.153.0.20]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA27373 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:40:28 -0700 Received: from mayday.compulink.co.uk (root@mayday.compulink.co.uk [194.153.8.241]) by mail.compulink.co.uk (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA04056 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 22:40:12 +0100 (BST) Received: (qmail 27465 invoked by uid 400); 27 May 1997 21:23:00 -0000 Message-Id: <91ddc171613b450563181c2bcad80af7> Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 22:22:40 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robert de Bath" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine and lynx In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robin S Socha X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-URL: http://www.cix.co.uk/~mayday X-Dev86-Version: 0.12.1 X-Alternate-address: User rdebath on machine cix.co.uk X-Mailer: Pine 3.95q for Linux X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 22 May 1997, Robin S Socha wrote: > ... Anyway, if you're using lynx, > the following is a Good Thing (tm) to have as a customized printer command: > > -------------8<--------- snip here -----8<------------------ Thats the old buggy version (ftp: urls are broken), here's the new all singing, all ... yak, yak, yak, yawn! #-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=snip-snip=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- #!/bin/sh - FILE=$1 [ "$FILE" = "" ] && FILE=- ( echo "" [ "$FILE" != "-" ] && { echo "" echo "File $FILE" echo "" } echo "
"

expand $FILE | sed \
  -e 's/^/ /' -e  's/>/>@@/g' -e  's/ ]*\)>@@: URL\: \1:g' \
  -e 's:\([^>"]\)\(ftp\://[^"<> ]*[^()\.,"<>& ]\):\1\2:g' \
  -e 's:\([^>"]\)\(http\://[^"<> ]*[^()\.,"<>& ]\):\1\2:g' \
  -e 's/>@@/\>/g' -e 's/<@@/\</g' -e 's/^ //'

echo '
' ) > /tmp/l_file.html stty onlcr < /dev/tty lynx -force_html /tmp/l_file.html < /dev/tty > /dev/tty 2>&1 echo 'done' #-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=snip-snip=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- It also understands the format. > and *whoa!* you can view html inside pine. Thanks again to whoever made up > this script, it's *way* kewl >:-> You're welcome. -- Rob. (Robert de Bath ) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 1997 15:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA23861 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 15:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA16331; Tue, 27 May 1997 15:12:20 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA21328; Tue, 27 May 1997 15:09:01 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA50684 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 15:08:38 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA00424 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 15:08:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wWUKk-00038vC; Tue, 27 May 97 15:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 14:32:41 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Karl Zobell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Automatic "vacation" response? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there a command or program by which an automatic response will go to senders of all incoming messages during a period of absence? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 1997 15:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA25804 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 15:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA17056; Tue, 27 May 1997 15:44:42 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA23034; Tue, 27 May 1997 15:40:24 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA17026 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 15:40:02 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA03286 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 15:39:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wWUoX-000398C; Tue, 27 May 97 15:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5meo12$ql2@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> Date: 27 May 1997 13:36:34 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: rick@msc.cornell.edu (Rick Cochran) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: PINE, POP3, 'abort' signal, etc. X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The default mail checking interval for PINE 3.95 is 150 seconds. The default timeout for our POP3 daemon is 120 seconds. PINE appears to want a continuous connection to the POP3 server. After 120 seconds, the POP3 server times out and closes the connection. After another 30 seconds, PINE attempts to check for mail, notices that the connection has been closed, gets an 'abort' signal, and crashes. Keeping a continuous connection to the POP3 server is NOT how I would expect a POP3 client to work. Why does PINE do this? -Rick -- |Rick Cochran phone: 607-255-7223| |Cornell Materials Science Center FAX: 607-255-3957| |E20 Clark Hall, Ithaca, N.Y. 14853 email: rick@msc.cornell.edu| | "The Founding Fathers did not establish the United States as a | | democratic republic so that elected officials would decide trivia, | | while all great questions would be decided by the judiciary." | | Judge Andrew Kleinfeld | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 1997 19:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA23351 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 19:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA22731; Tue, 27 May 1997 19:00:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA29278; Tue, 27 May 1997 18:58:24 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA61778 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 18:58:02 -0700 Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA19972 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 18:58:01 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.03) with SMTP id SAA01780; Tue, 27 May 1997 18:57:58 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 18:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: more info than films have In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: simmonmt@acm.org X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > lwright@symitar.com writes: > > Hi- > > I ordered and watched your films on PINE. I liked the way it was > > presented. I felt they were excellent for the beginning user. However, I > > did not see answers to some questions I have. I am writing an on-line > > help reference guide for our company for our intranet and I do have a few > > questions. > > They're making videos on the use of Pine? THat's one of the signs > that the end is coming, right? =) Yes, absolutely! Glad someone else noticed the irony, (or our failure to achieve the ease of use goal... :) -teg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 1997 19:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA28572 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 19:04:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA20902; Tue, 27 May 1997 19:04:12 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA02172; Tue, 27 May 1997 19:02:23 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA60002 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 19:02:11 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA07218 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 19:02:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wWY0b-00038tC; Tue, 27 May 97 18:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <338B1399.5EF@inconcert.com> Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 13:02:17 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve LeBlanc To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Where does the hostname in the To/CC files come from? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm running Pine 3.96. When 'To' or 'CC' addresses are displayed, they include the mailserver hostname. If I enable viewing of expanded headers, the 'To' and 'CC' addresses don't have the host name. In fact, the addresses that cause problems have no '@domain.com' portion at all. When a mail address does have a fully qualified domain name, the mailhost name dosen't get appended. Is there a configuration parameter available to fix this or is this some type of bug? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 1997 19:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA29182 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 19:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA21553; Tue, 27 May 1997 19:49:30 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA03930; Tue, 27 May 1997 19:47:35 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA58896 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 19:47:19 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA24242 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 19:47:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wWYjU-00038tC; Tue, 27 May 97 19:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 10:53:01 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mark Crispin To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA In-Reply-To: <338cf888.11705276@news.toplink.net> References: <33849588.12524149@desert.net.au> <338cf888.11705276@news.toplink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 26 May 1997, Friedemann Baitinger wrote: > You can safely delete the message. The worst > thing which can happen is if you run your POP3 client again, it will > re-fetch emails which it has seen already. It is NOT safe to delete that message. Please do not spread false information. I wrote "DON'T DELETE" in big block letters for a reason. The next version of Pine will depend upon that message for better performance. Deleting that message will cause a substantial slowdown. The moral: when it says "Don't touch", pay attention. Otherwise, when you burn your hand you will not get much sympathy. -- Mark -- Unsolicited commercial email is NOT welcome at this email address. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 1997 19:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA27672 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 19:54:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA21635; Tue, 27 May 1997 19:54:42 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA01627; Tue, 27 May 1997 19:52:33 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA60572 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 19:52:19 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA23581 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 19:52:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wWYm6-00038tC; Tue, 27 May 97 19:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5mg69g$709$1@nadine.teleport.com> Date: 28 May 1997 02:46:08 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Guy Meacham To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Automatic "vacation" response? References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 27 May 1997 14:32:41 -0700 Karl Zobell wrote: : Is there a command or program by which an automatic response will go to : senders of all incoming messages during a period of absence? In pine no, but what you ask can easily be done with vacation. Type man vacation at the unix prompt for info. -- Guy Meacham.......................finger -l meacham@teleport.com Rippingale Nursery...............http://www.rippingale.com/~meacham/ . The sun never set on the English Empire..... Because God didn't trust then in the dark. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 1997 20:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id UAA29008 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 20:50:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id UAA22321; Tue, 27 May 1997 20:50:15 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA03984; Tue, 27 May 1997 20:47:53 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA56550 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 20:47:28 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id UAA13822 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 20:47:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wWZg9-00038tC; Tue, 27 May 97 20:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 13:56:40 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Gordon K. C. Shum" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Slow Loading News Headers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello there. I have been experiencing very slow response times when I try to view the 5th screenful of news headers in any newsgroup that I connect to. Is there some setting I can change so that Pine loads all the news headers in one shot? I use Pine running in Solaris on a Sparc 20. Thanks for the time and patience. Gordon K. C. Shum From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 1997 21:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA29605 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 21:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA24809; Tue, 27 May 1997 21:40:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA05756; Tue, 27 May 1997 21:37:56 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA50346 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 21:37:37 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id VAA01444 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 21:37:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wWaR7-00038tC; Tue, 27 May 97 21:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <3389EF8B.4FC7@student.tuwien.ac.at> Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 20:16:11 +0000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Debbie Kim To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Reading News Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi! I'm sorry if this is a stupid request, but could someone please assist me in adding news groups to my Pine account? I read the section on _Reading News_ in the "help" section--but I still don't understand how to add news groups!! (I miss my Compuserve! Everything was so simple!--please excuse me, I'm a real dummy with this e-mail stuff!) --Debbie From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 1997 23:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA21013 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 23:31:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA24417; Tue, 27 May 1997 23:31:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA11455; Tue, 27 May 1997 23:29:30 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA68114 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 23:29:07 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA05767 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 23:29:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wWc9H-00038tC; Tue, 27 May 97 23:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <338801D4.41C6@study.haifa.ac.il> Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 09:09:41 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Dr Doom To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: how can I reply my e-mail while I'm on a vocation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I looking for a sofftware that will auto reply my e-mail while I'm on my vocation. I read somewhere that there is a unix software named "vocation" that can do it, how does it work? thanks :) -- Adi Chokler Mailto:achokler@study.haifa.ac.il "The future is so bright you should wear shades" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 1997 23:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA27892 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 23:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA24447; Tue, 27 May 1997 23:33:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA11485; Tue, 27 May 1997 23:29:43 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA52508 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 23:29:09 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA06040 for ; Tue, 27 May 1997 23:29:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wWc9V-00038yC; Tue, 27 May 97 23:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 10:59:27 +0300 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Cohen Oded To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Help - Mail is gone but still exist!? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, I'm using pine 3.95, whenever my mailbox is being access via POP3 applications, such as eudora or similiars my mail is gone (usually when I used to exit and restart pine again it was solved) but now when I exit or when I open it after accesing my mail (also using telnet to port 110) the mail is gone, but using telnet to port 100 I can still see it?! Does any have any idea?! because this is making me hard life :-( Thanks in advance. Oded. 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The No.1 Israeli Internet & Intranet Services Provider From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 May 1997 01:17:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA31555 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 01:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA25756; Wed, 28 May 1997 01:17:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA14758; Wed, 28 May 1997 01:14:46 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA55962 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 01:14:25 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA27581 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 01:14:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wWdnq-00038tC; Wed, 28 May 97 01:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <3389ECF7.13AC@iname.com> Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 13:05:11 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robert Marr To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine and Japanese Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I can't seem to get Pine to display Japanese through my telnet client. Is this because of my terminal emulation (vt100/vt220) or because I have version 3.91? If someone can email me on this, I'll be more likely to get it than if I have to check back here. Thank you to those kind-hearted souls. Robert Marr From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 May 1997 01:22:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA31479 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 01:22:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA27550; Wed, 28 May 1997 01:22:45 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA14897; Wed, 28 May 1997 01:19:14 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA76294 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 01:19:04 -0700 Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA10890 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 01:19:00 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 28 May 1997 09:16:58 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA24410; Wed, 28 May 1997 09:18:24 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 09:18:23 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: how can I reply my e-mail while I'm on a vocation In-Reply-To: <338801D4.41C6@study.haifa.ac.il> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Dr Doom X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN A "vocation" is a job or calling. I think you're really wanting "vacation" (with an "a"), meaning "holiday"... Assuming you're using a UNIX based system "vacation" is _probably_ installed on it (it's pretty standard). Try checking for a manual page by giving the command: man vacation If this doesn't show anything try asking your local HelpDesk staff; they will know what software is installed on your computer systems, whereas random people around the world (such as myself) don't. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On Sun, 25 May 1997, Dr Doom wrote: > I looking for a sofftware that will auto reply my e-mail while I'm on my > vocation. I read somewhere that there is a unix software named > "vocation" that can do it, how does it work? > > thanks :) > -- > Adi Chokler > Mailto:achokler@study.haifa.ac.il > "The future is so bright you should wear shades" > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 May 1997 02:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA26478 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 02:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA28144; Wed, 28 May 1997 02:15:22 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA15580; Wed, 28 May 1997 02:09:54 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA51292 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 02:09:38 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id CAA14140 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 02:09:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wWehS-00038tC; Wed, 28 May 97 02:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <01bc6ab1$681ae540$9f469696@stgrjgz> Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 08:21:50 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Juan R. Guzman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How to convert exchange PST files to text (Unix) folders References: <338AC125.71D4@daimi.aau.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN how about using smtp? Fevzi Alimoglu wrote in article <338AC125.71D4@daimi.aau.dk>... > Hi ! > > I am interested in moving some of my mail messages to a Unix account. > I would like to know if there is any utility to do this. > > Is it possible to access mail messages, from both Exchange and Unix mail > readers? > > Thanks in advance > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 May 1997 02:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA00093 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 02:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA28424; Wed, 28 May 1997 02:40:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA15854; Wed, 28 May 1997 02:29:31 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA71224 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 02:29:18 -0700 Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id CAA00115 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 02:29:14 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:39/2.6.2.c) id LAA02072; Wed, 28 May 1997 11:28:56 +0200 Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id LAA26680; Wed, 28 May 1997 11:28:21 +0200 Received: by mail.ife-le.de (Smail-3.2.0.91) with smtp; id for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 11:19:14 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 11:18:58 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rudolf Kompf To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: PINE, POP3, 'abort' signal, etc. In-Reply-To: <5meo12$ql2@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Rick Cochran X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 27 May 1997, Rick Cochran wrote: -> Date: 27 May 1997 13:36:34 GMT -> From: Rick Cochran -> To: Pine Discussion Forum -> Subject: PINE, POP3, 'abort' signal, etc. -> -> The default mail checking interval for PINE 3.95 is 150 seconds. -> The default timeout for our POP3 daemon is 120 seconds. -> PINE appears to want a continuous connection to the POP3 server. -> After 120 seconds, the POP3 server times out and closes the -> connection. After another 30 seconds, PINE attempts to check -> for mail, notices that the connection has been closed, gets an -> 'abort' signal, and crashes. -> -> Keeping a continuous connection to the POP3 server is NOT how -> I would expect a POP3 client to work. Why does PINE do this? -> -> -Rick -> -> -- -> |Rick Cochran phone: 607-255-7223| -> |Cornell Materials Science Center FAX: 607-255-3957| -> |E20 Clark Hall, Ithaca, N.Y. 14853 email: rick@msc.cornell.edu| -> | "The Founding Fathers did not establish the United States as a | -> | democratic republic so that elected officials would decide trivia, | -> | while all great questions would be decided by the judiciary." | -> | Judge Andrew Kleinfeld | -> Goto the config-screen. Set mail-check-interval to 0, and pine never checks for new mail. Hope this helps -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 May 1997 04:33:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA26312 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 04:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA28289; Wed, 28 May 1997 04:33:38 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA15512; Wed, 28 May 1997 04:24:20 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA31390 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 04:24:01 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id EAA16213 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 04:23:59 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 28 May 97 13:23:43 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA00727 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 10:18:26 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 10:18:26 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: more info than films have In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 27 May 1997, Terry Gray wrote: >> lwright@symitar.com writes: >> > I ordered and watched your films on PINE. I liked the way it was >> > presented. I felt they were excellent for the beginning user. >> > However, I did not see answers to some questions I have. I am writing >> > an on-line help reference guide for our company for our intranet and >> > I do have a few questions. >> They're making videos on the use of Pine? THat's one of the signs that >> the end is coming, right? =) >Yes, absolutely! Glad someone else noticed the irony, (or our failure to >achieve the ease of use goal... :) Two days ago, I installed windows on her system. I told her at least 10 times not to hit the big red switch. The system started with xdm and had a "nuke" button in the WM. I disconnected the big red and the reboot button. I disabled gpm -S"" and c+a+d. I made a 25 digit root password. Then she pulled the plug. System crash, data loss. U*ix can never be made easy enough to use for *some* people. Just my DM.02 Robin -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 May 1997 08:05:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA04456 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 08:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA01409; Wed, 28 May 1997 08:05:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA23641; Wed, 28 May 1997 08:02:50 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA76932 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 08:01:56 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA29130 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 08:01:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wWk7b-00038yC; Wed, 28 May 97 07:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 13:05:48 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: kenh@world.std.com (Ken Hancock) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: pine splitting BOUNCE messages X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Our mail administrator has recently moved mail machines as well as installing new versions (3.96) of pine. Previously, BOUNCE messages from majordomo were received correctly as the BOUNCE headers plus original headers and message content. Now pine is seeing them as two messages: (1) BOUNCE headers and (2) original mail message. (Other mailers receive the single message correctly) The approve script expects the bounce headers for proper processing. Anyone have any ideas on where pine broke? Is it a MIME configuration issue? Thanks in advance, Ken -- Ken Hancock | Disclaimer: My opinions are mine, | your opinions are yours. Simple, isn't it? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 May 1997 17:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA15799 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 17:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA17016; Wed, 28 May 1997 17:23:38 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA29920; Wed, 28 May 1997 17:18:39 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA33898 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 17:17:44 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA16311 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 17:17:43 -0700 Received: from condor.sccs.swarthmore.edu (shirin@condor.sccs.swarthmore.edu [130.58.218.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA15508 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 17:17:40 -0700 Received: from localhost (shirin@localhost) by condor.sccs.swarthmore.edu (8.8.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA29494 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 20:17:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 20:17:39 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shirin Ali To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: help? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear sir or madam, How do i change my folder from being a readonly folder to one where i can delete messages from? I somehow managed to mark two folders read only's and i can't figure out how to remedy this. thanks, Shirin Ali From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 May 1997 18:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA17630 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 18:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA16777; Wed, 28 May 1997 18:30:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA03751; Wed, 28 May 1997 18:24:07 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA25562 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 18:23:43 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA08053 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 18:23:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wWtri-00038yC; Wed, 28 May 97 18:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 08:20:23 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: keith@tardis.ed.ac.uk (Keith Starsmeare) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: pine-debug# files? References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Jago writes: >On Thu, 15 May 1997, Armond wrote: >> >> I'm getting all these pine-debug# files in my root directory and I'd like >> to know why they are there. >PINE does a default level of 4. You can set the debug level to zero, >which will prevent PINE from making debug files. The command is "pine -d >0" (that's zero, not the letter "o", in case your terminal emulation makes >it confusing). Is there a way to set the debug to 0 in the pinerc file? Also will the pine -d 0 option prevent pine from creating a .pine-crash file? If not how do I prevent this problem too? -- Keith Starsmeare MailTo:keith@tardis.ed.ac.uk http://www.Four11.com http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~keith -- Keith Starsmeare MailTo:keith@tardis.ed.ac.uk http://www.Four11.com http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~keith From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 May 1997 18:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA13157 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 18:39:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA18387; Wed, 28 May 1997 18:39:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA04201; Wed, 28 May 1997 18:36:44 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA41576 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 18:36:30 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA22145 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 18:36:29 -0700 Received: from quartz.nbnet.nb.ca (quartz.nbnet.nb.ca [198.164.200.18]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA16856 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 18:36:27 -0700 Received: from hp-customer ([198.164.219.79]) by quartz.nbnet.nb.ca (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11373) with SMTP id AAA28046 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 22:36:25 -0300 Message-Id: <338CF900.406E@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 22:33:20 -0500 Reply-To: robocof@nbnet.nb.ca Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: RON COFFIN To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: work MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-nnie30 (Win95; U) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN how do i get conected to another computer asap email me back thank you From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 May 1997 20:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id UAA19001 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 20:23:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id UAA18215; Wed, 28 May 1997 20:23:44 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA09800; Wed, 28 May 1997 20:19:29 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA35208 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 20:19:00 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id UAA15714 for ; Wed, 28 May 1997 20:18:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wWvgD-00038yC; Wed, 28 May 97 20:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 29 May 1997 02:37:35 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca (Sylvain Robitaille) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: + mark signifying mails to you References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 27 May 1997 09:06:35 -0700, Abhay Roy wrote: > >I understand. But I think *for informational purposes* is the part which I >would like to disagree. It happens (way too many times), that we start a >discussion by sending mail to (say) 5 people, with one name in the To, and >others in Cc. As the discussion moves, people hit 'r' (and assume that all >on list are *live* listeners). So it arrives in the mail folder of the person, >who was *not* the last one to comment (so of course, he now moves in the Cc >list). And now it is not + marked ;( Unfortunately, the only suggestion I can come up with is to have an agreement among those involved, (right from the beginning), that each person contributing to the discussion will make a point of verifying the headers before sending the message. Not ideal, but certainly simple. >(Well, you can argue, that probably you could screen the subject field .. but >with me receiving well above 200 mails a day, I wouldn't prefer such a >solution). I think you need procmail. You could have the messages automatically sorted, based on criteria which you determine, (and which you can update, etc). >So I think it might be wise to >1. Have + mark for Both To and Cc fields >2. (Ugly ?) Have + mark for To and - (unused so far ?) for Cc ? Not a terrible idea, though I think it might be somewhat confusing at times. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvain Robitaille sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca Assistant to the System Manager Computing Services Department Concordia University Montreal, Quebec, Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 May 1997 01:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA10954 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 01:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA23994; Thu, 29 May 1997 01:07:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA18160; Thu, 29 May 1997 01:01:58 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA18798 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 01:01:40 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA20531 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 01:01:38 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 29 May 97 10:01:24 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA08447; Thu, 29 May 1997 08:56:02 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 08:55:56 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: work In-Reply-To: <338CF900.406E@nbnet.nb.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: RON COFFIN X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 28 May 1997, RON COFFIN wrote: >how do i get conected to another computer >asap email me back Is your shift key broken? This question has nothing to do with pine. You need to talk to your Internet Service Provider (ISP), local help desk, or Bill Gates for further information. Cheers, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM40of2e8+XvDOeNZAQE7GggAhoCbvWrXu52n4q2RXKbWxoe5pko/FppI BpLV6m2fdLI7v6RGDnNpCejaQSrkAg1quJJQikfPKrMkeeqwyGLNr0lxDzCrWk52 violxVMB8/P2NUwsKVL33Lfme4mmuuy8EUnKcxQ5hW9TBCg2ptOa3FxRCNqz8G2B jcnKNEpLrnShBURhNbA1U8WuLSxQ/hmssRyDSrFbJj+//ZvAkVRqIbXY8dFCZiKS HsQVe9//pvOEwwH7XxlJYsOEzyW9EfVUxKRRkPEPKaeAfGZS7bEhf4fjsWqb7yRy 07GMls8uqLq7+6JhJ0P2DoB6fP7yL58EvFm+a91uuqMKP71bzjLUYw== =1x21 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 May 1997 01:07:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA17431 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 01:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA24000; Thu, 29 May 1997 01:07:24 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA18186; Thu, 29 May 1997 01:02:15 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA60024 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 01:01:42 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA20533 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 01:01:40 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 29 May 97 10:01:24 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA08436; Thu, 29 May 1997 08:54:18 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 08:54:11 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Shirin Ali X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 28 May 1997, Shirin Ali wrote: Hi, Shirin, > How do i change my folder from being a readonly folder to one where >i can delete messages from? I somehow managed to mark two folders read >only's and i can't figure out how to remedy this. Very funny :-) I like the "somehow" part best ;-) Ok, seriously now: If you're on a u*ix system, the following command will do: chmod u+r but I don't think that's your problem. Could there be an error message saying: "folder is readonly because another pine session is locking xy"? (Haven't seen that in months, so don't flame me if I got the words all wrong). Then you'd need to close all pine sessions (when all else fails, "killall pine" will do the trick) and restart *one*. HTH, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM40oFme8+XvDOeNZAQE0Dgf9EaCagZxhk3Nz3+BWETvi6yGxMCr6s5TI vFtF0SQ/6JvF/r+XDMbtkar+uqC74YK7B5D4o4iUl8bTcWHE+3FbjjRZZv2tVMY6 t3oKCo6aHFCThAMHcIuHuv2c3jiMpMtKI1U9+J1BWI6/uEQhNK1PrIJjqnK7GUNP +/D9si9TmsR4rCjy3WEGM0fLhHWibAVhD5fo5oY97KvrFAbynMDF/jswPK4YQKz+ X8vRSTUNXU/d/UvxLnraiOohbbP7owL4XCxxH3SqIuXNR8D0BMLX08yxq5pf7UEe o9qIZ00oqymFntt0vzAW1yodfHzupEFToGzSav6wNHQLk9jRdF6mwQ== =EpFi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 May 1997 07:24:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA24548 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 07:24:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA00871; Thu, 29 May 1997 07:24:17 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA27246; Thu, 29 May 1997 07:18:29 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA41584 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 07:18:08 -0700 Received: from mail.bcpl.lib.md.us (mail.bcpl.lib.md.us [204.255.212.10]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA06647 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 07:18:05 -0700 Received: from localhost by mail.bcpl.lib.md.us (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA27646; Thu, 29 May 1997 10:15:08 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 10:15:07 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Chip Old To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: pine splitting BOUNCE messages In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ken Hancock X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 28 May 1997, Ken Hancock wrote: > Our mail administrator has recently moved mail machines as well as installing > new versions (3.96) of pine. Previously, BOUNCE messages from majordomo > were received correctly as the BOUNCE headers plus original headers and > message content. Now pine is seeing them as two messages: (1) BOUNCE > headers and (2) original mail message. (Other mailers receive the single > message correctly) > > The approve script expects the bounce headers for proper processing. Anyone > have any ideas on where pine broke? Is it a MIME configuration issue? This isn't a Pine issue, a MIME issue, or even a Majordomo issue. Your mail administrator needs to make a minor change in your MTA's configuration. When Majordomo bounces a message to you, the message text includes the full header of the original message - including the envelope sender line (From user@domain date). Virtually all UNIX mail user agents require that every message in a mail spool file be delimited by a blank line followed by a line beginning with "From" (not "From:"). In the case of a message bounced by Majordomo, there are two such lines - the one generated by Majordomo and the one from the original message. This causes your MUA (Pine) to see two distinct messages. The solution is for your mail administrator to instruct the MTA to mask the envelope sender line from the original message by prepending a ">" to the line. I don't know how that is done in smail (your message header looks like smail is your local MTA), but in Sendmail you add an "F=E" flag to the "Mlocal" line in sendmail.cf. This tells Sendmail to convert "From" to ">From" if it finds it at the beginning of a line following a blank line in the message text. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Chip Old (Francis E. Old) fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Administrator, Internetworking Services Voice: 410-887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: 410-887-2091 320 York Road ICBM: 39.39910 North Towson, Maryland 21204 U.S.A. 76.60300 West From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 May 1997 09:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA28608 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 09:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA02141; Thu, 29 May 1997 09:34:56 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA07284; Thu, 29 May 1997 09:26:48 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA46494 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 09:26:16 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA19074 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 09:26:15 -0700 Received: from klingon.ici.net (perusa@klingon.ici.net [207.180.0.40]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id JAA03779 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 09:26:12 -0700 Received: from localhost by klingon.ici.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07711; Thu, 29 May 97 12:28:04 EDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 12:28:03 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Tal Shaked To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: question about inbox folder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: perusa@klingon X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I keep on getting a message, about a minute after opening my inbox, saying that the inbox folder has closed due to an 'access error'. I was wondering if this is a bug or it has something to do with the configuration? My service provider just upgraded their server and changed to this newer version of pine. Thanks for you help, in advance... Tal Shaked From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 May 1997 10:00:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA25471 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 10:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA02819; Thu, 29 May 1997 10:00:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA09073; Thu, 29 May 1997 09:48:01 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA46462 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 09:47:33 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA14860 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 09:47:31 -0700 Received: from balder-int.ssds.com (balder.ssds.com [204.131.72.62]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA02477 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 09:47:28 -0700 Received: by balder-int.ssds.com id KAA15640; Thu, 29 May 1997 10:44:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from denver.ssds.com(134.127.16.1) by balder.ssds.com via smap (3.2) id xma015637; Thu, 29 May 97 10:44:34 -0600 Received: by denver.ssds.com id KAA11872; Thu, 29 May 1997 10:47:04 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970529170518.58272bd4@denver.ssds.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 11:05:18 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Adrienne Belaire To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Help! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: alc@denver.ssds.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To whomever it concerns... I need some electronic info on specific dates - historical things that took place - Can you help me? Also of historical info in specific years... (1937, 1957, 67,77, 87,.... Thanks,... Adrienne (alc@ssds.com) P.S. The dates are June 11... 1937 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 May 1997 10:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA29283 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 10:16:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA05016; Thu, 29 May 1997 10:16:33 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA52532; Thu, 29 May 1997 10:10:13 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA49236 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 10:09:17 -0700 Received: from hq.vni.net (highway@hq.vni.net [205.252.27.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA06488 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 10:08:59 -0700 Received: from localhost (highway@localhost) by hq.vni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA22308; Thu, 29 May 1997 13:08:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 13:08:54 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Solstice To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Help! In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19970529170518.58272bd4@denver.ssds.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Adrienne Belaire X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 29 May 1997, Adrienne Belaire wrote: > To whomever it concerns... > > I need some electronic info on specific dates - historical things that took > place - Can you help me? Also of historical info in specific years... > (1937, 1957, 67,77, 87,.... In 1937 Marx Brothers' "A Day At The Races" released. In 1937 Chad Everett's (the actor) Birthday. In 1977 Train and school hostage incident in the Netherlands ends. In 1977 Seattle Slew won Belmont Stakes and the Triple Crown. > > Thanks,... > > Adrienne (alc@ssds.com) > > P.S. The dates are June 11... 1937 > > "THE FATE OF BILLIONS ALL DEPEND ON YOU... HEH HEH HEH ... SORRY." - RAYDEN John "Highway" Tze-Chang Wu Alpha Phi Omega Nat'l Svc Fraternity highway@vni.net http://www.vni.net/apo (Epsilon Mu) http://www.vni.net/~highway Central Perk Coffee House (Friends) (World Wide Web Developer) http://www.vni.net/~highway/Friends From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 May 1997 11:05:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA31141 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 11:05:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA06532; Thu, 29 May 1997 11:05:17 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA14187; Thu, 29 May 1997 10:59:21 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA66650 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 10:59:05 -0700 Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net (punt-1a.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.129]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA09877 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 10:59:01 -0700 Received: from asysa.demon.co.uk ([158.152.36.24]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa1005185; 29 May 97 17:43 BST Received: from asa.co.uk (cooch.asa.co.uk [193.195.233.4]) by osbeta.asa.co.uk (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02146 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 17:25:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from billy.asa.co.uk (billy.asa.co.uk [193.195.233.124]) by asa.co.uk (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id RAA22955 for ; Thu, 29 May 1997 17:33:00 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 17:28:11 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Sean Witham To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 29 May 1997, Robin S Socha wrote: > > If you're on a u*ix system, the following command will do: > > chmod u+r > I think you ment: chmod u+w --Sean From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 May 1997 03:21:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA04604 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 03:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA24031; Fri, 30 May 1997 03:21:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA04131; Fri, 30 May 1997 03:18:33 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA33362 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 03:17:59 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id DAA00568 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 03:17:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wXOdC-000393C; Fri, 30 May 97 03:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 29 May 1997 02:53:23 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca (Sylvain Robitaille) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using sendmail References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 27 May 1997 12:19:04 GMT, Bruce Schultz wrote: >I'd like to be able to mail from PINE using sendmail on my linux box >instead of directly accessing my ISP's smtp server. I see no way of >setting pine to use my localhost sendmail. Any advice? Have a look at .pinerc: # List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses sendmail. smtp-server= -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvain Robitaille sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca Assistant to the System Manager Computing Services Department Concordia University Montreal, Quebec, Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 May 1997 06:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA11981 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 06:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA26271; Fri, 30 May 1997 06:03:29 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA38606; Fri, 30 May 1997 05:59:23 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA61390 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 05:58:29 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id FAA06592 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 05:58:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wXR6r-00039CC; Fri, 30 May 97 05:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 29 May 1997 09:14:30 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: lillqvis@cc.helsinki.fi (Holger Lillqvist) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: + mark signifying mails to you References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Quoting Abhay Roy: > could screen the subject field .. but with me receiving well above 200 mails a > day, I wouldn't prefer such a solution). So I think it might be wise to > 1. Have + mark for Both To and Cc fields > 2. (Ugly ?) Have + mark for To and - (unused so far ?) for Cc ? If you receive 200 mails a day you may want to use procmail to put your list mail directly in their respective folders. As Pine (like Mutt) supports multiple incoming mailboxes, you can then easily cycle through folders which have received new mail. This way, the cc'd mail won't drown among list mail in your inbox. Regards, -- Holger.Lillqvist@Helsinki.Fi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 May 1997 06:07:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA10239 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 06:07:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA24484; Fri, 30 May 1997 06:07:25 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA38458; Fri, 30 May 1997 05:59:50 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA68312 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 05:58:31 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id FAA28258 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 05:58:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wXR6y-00039DC; Fri, 30 May 97 05:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 29 May 1997 08:59:30 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: lillqvis@cc.helsinki.fi (Holger Lillqvist) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: + mark signifying mails to you References: <5m87ct$gc0$1@news-sj-2.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Quoting Mike Brudenell: > No, there isn't an option to make the "+" "direct to you" marker appear > for messages cc'd to you. This is because the "+" means "direct to > you"... in other words messages for which you are listed as a primary > recipient (in the "To:" list). The marker serves to highlight and > distinguish these from messages which are merely being cc'd to you > (presumably for informational purposes), or in whose headers your address > doesn't appear at all (eg, from a mailing list). Pine's mail markers are rather primitive and unsufficient. FYI, this is how Mutt, my favorite mail program, in an exemplary way handles this thing (I quote from the manual's configuration section): " to_chars Type: string Default: " +TCF" Controls the character used to indicate mail addressed to you. The first character is the one used when the mail is NOT addressed to your address (default: space). The second is used when you are the only recipient of the message (default: +). The third is when your address appears in the TO header field, but you are not the only recipient of the message (default: T). The fourth character is used when your address is specified in the CC header field, but you are not the only recipient (default: C). The fifth character is used to indicate mail that was sent by you (default: F)." ( For more information: http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~me/mutt/ ) -- Holger.Lillqvist@Helsinki.Fi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 May 1997 08:34:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA14980 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 08:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA28873; Fri, 30 May 1997 08:34:50 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA17279; Fri, 30 May 1997 08:30:36 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA36632 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 08:30:05 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA24716 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 08:30:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wXTR8-000398C; Fri, 30 May 97 08:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 00:20:16 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Heinrich 'Hank' Goetzger" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: To invoke pine in another window In-Reply-To: <338CD45A.7D76@synopsys.com> References: <338CD45A.7D76@synopsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi You, On Wed, 28 May 1997, Alok Bhatia wrote: >Hi All, > > We have a weird requirement here in my company. the only way my >project will work is if I can invoke pine in another window and not in >the window where "pine" is typed. Like, e.g., when I invoke emacs, it >brings up another window. Does pine also have sth like this? Let's say I scream it over the 101 ;-) (I'm sitting at Ames) I'm using this alias, to get this behavior: alias xpine='/usr/openwin/bin/xterm -T "XPine" -n Xpine -sb -sl 300 -bg yellow -fg black -e pine &' Whereat you can learn about the otions by using: man xterm, assuming you running a sort of unix. CU Heinrich | name: Heinrich Goetzger home: Streets of San Francisco... | | ? ? ? main(){while(!fork())sleep(1);} ? ? ? | | Everytime I Find The Meaning Of Life, They Change It. | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 May 1997 12:36:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA20404 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 12:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA03018; Fri, 30 May 1997 12:36:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA07374; Fri, 30 May 1997 12:31:41 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA65968 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 12:31:10 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA06429 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 12:31:09 -0700 Received: from post-ofc04.srv.cis.pitt.edu (post-ofc04.srv.cis.pitt.edu [136.142.185.11]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA02855 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 12:31:05 -0700 Received: from unixs3.cis.pitt.edu (pgbarnes@unixs3.cis.pitt.edu [136.142.185.54]) by post-ofc04.srv.cis.pitt.edu with SMTP (8.8.5/cispo-2.0.1.7) ID for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 15:28:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 15:28:08 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Patricia G Barnes To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: pgbarnes@unixs3.cis.pitt.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi - I have a Brother HL-665 printer and a Dell OptiPlex GM+5133 computer. I have an account throiugh the University of Pittsburgh. I can't print out my email, which is a major problem. Our local computer people couldn't help me. Can something there give me any suggestions? Pat Barnes at pgbarnes+@pitt.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 May 1997 14:20:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA14576 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 14:20:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA07736; Fri, 30 May 1997 14:20:18 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA13274; Fri, 30 May 1997 14:15:13 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA75086 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 14:14:26 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA29606 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 14:14:23 -0700 Received: from berzerk.rs.itd.umich.edu (smtp@berzerk.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.63.17]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA05815 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 14:14:20 -0700 Received: by berzerk.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/3.0-mailhub) id RAA03864; Fri, 30 May 1997 17:14:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bertcher@pacman.rs.itd.umich.edu(141.211.63.80) by berzerk.rs.itd.umich.edu via smap (2.0-umich) id xma003858; Fri, 30 May 97 17:14:14 -0400 Received: from localhost by pacman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/3.0-client) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 17:14:14 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: bertcher@umich.edu To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Diffulties MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: bertcher@pacman.rs.itd.umich.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have a new Compaq Armada laptop. As a retired faculty member at the University of Michigan, I find that when I am typing a message like this, the second line wraps around, but then the line I type is all symbols rather than letters. To overcome this, I find that if I hit Enter toward I'll try again. I have a new laptop. When I come to the end of a line I have to hit Enter, to type intelligibly. I do not know what you are seeing, but on my screen what I typed of this message on lines 2 and 4 appeared as symbols, not as letters. When I got line 5 I was able to type letters after I hit Enter, at the end of the previous line. Now everything looks ok. I am going to type on to see what happens when I wrap around on the next line I hit Enter for THIS line. I see symbols, not letters on the line above. ??? What's going on? Harvey J. Bertcher E-mail: bertcher@umich.edu Professor, School of Social Work Phone: 313/996-2475 University of Michigan FAX: 313/996-1961 Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1285 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 May 1997 19:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA24935 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 19:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA13791; Fri, 30 May 1997 19:20:47 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA02092; Fri, 30 May 1997 19:17:41 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA50306 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 19:17:14 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA21229 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 19:17:13 -0700 Received: from freenet2.freenet.ufl.edu (adh@freenet2.afn.org [128.227.163.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA11985 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 19:17:11 -0700 Received: from localhost by freenet2.freenet.ufl.edu (8.7.3/4.11) id WAA86225; Fri, 30 May 1997 22:17:15 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 22:17:15 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: adh To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Foreign language correspondence MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Sir or Madam: I correspondend with friends in French. My French friends reside in Quebec. My messages are composed with a word-processor that I believe uses the ASCII coded French characters. My e-mail is handled by a local freenet, Alachua Freenet (afn.org). Alachua Freenet is using PINE. I have selected, in my PINE setup, the character configuration: ISO-8859-1. When I wish to send a message, I upload a text version of my word-processor document to the "home directory" of my PINE mail system. When viewed in the home directory, using the [V] view command, the image displays correct French characters. I then leave the home directory to compose my message with the [C] compose command by [^R] reading the uploaded file into my message body area. The message is then sent by me to Quebec. When portions of my message are returned to me, they contain in place of each accented character a combination of two characters, a carat [^] followed by an italicized capital letter which differs from the accented letter. The messages that originate in Quebec have substituted for accented characters other, seemingly unrelated characters of the regular, unitalicized alphabet, such as i in place of e-aigu, ' in place of e-grave, etc. Please tell me if there is some way I can configure my PINE mail so that the French characters are transmitted and received faithfully. Sincerely, Alvin D. Hofer (352) 336 - 8942 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 May 1997 20:31:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id UAA09179 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 20:31:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id UAA12980; Fri, 30 May 1997 20:31:18 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA04541; Fri, 30 May 1997 20:26:01 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA72526 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 20:24:47 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id UAA24321 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 20:24:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wXee2-00039HC; Fri, 30 May 97 20:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 10:55:04 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: QUESTION Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Does anybody how to know the full name of a person using only his direction? /---I / I / I / I / I / I /~~I /---------------------------------____ / I I-~[] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] / II I-_ [] /----- \-----------\ I___________/----I \ I \ I \ I \ I \ I \ I \___I From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 May 1997 23:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA17182 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 23:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA16873; Fri, 30 May 1997 23:22:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA09397; Fri, 30 May 1997 23:17:48 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA50448 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 23:16:31 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA20081 for ; Fri, 30 May 1997 23:16:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wXhKz-00039FC; Fri, 30 May 97 23:08 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <338fa582.3809048@news.servtech.com> Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 04:15:20 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: vagabond@servtech.com (The Vagabond) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine and Mailing Lists X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN And now for the 800th time in this newsgroup (probably)... Is there a way to get pine to autoforward mail to a mailing list (ie, can Pine be used to host a mailing list) It would be best if you could email me.. thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 May 1997 00:29:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA29102 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 00:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA17698; Sat, 31 May 1997 00:29:43 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id AAA08494; Sat, 31 May 1997 00:24:31 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id AAA63536 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 00:24:15 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA03450 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 00:24:13 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id AAA17609 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 00:24:10 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 31 May 97 09:23:55 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA06379 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 08:49:52 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 08:49:47 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: bug or feature? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi there, anyone ever tried E(xport) and then strg+v? Hangs my pine for Linux 3.95. Cheers, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM4/KDWe8+XvDOeNZAQEHiwf+PDt39ZD4barorQ/IIktSbIv1bJHsdCkT CustEbJo+jFzR0M4FNzr8N/0Db+6evs8N6KzxxHssV2owBut5Nu7z8ijeAm1xykF jQFEgGciJOnRDM9YvY3fiSNyXpVwuZ6xJflIcdKGXoP4qdcgpGELiHI+0bZoq2Dg 59UHkgiSlF+p0J/gNfuwZ4OYb6JGjD25Fp6osi8WI+yCX2/azY1HibCnDKIIhv1y sxjK1diqJxThv6HdHvq4a+czmJMBVeNc46qK6jt8w10jkDvHnWRaC0S8V80yCLaX CZmjJYPC8LkjLanWus0rCv7KYcraZuClcM11KpvffkDTHf7ghgnZaA== =Fjmm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 May 1997 01:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA29403 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 01:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA16816; Sat, 31 May 1997 01:35:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA09731; Sat, 31 May 1997 01:32:21 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA62372 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 01:32:01 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA05389 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 01:32:00 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 31 May 97 10:31:45 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA06618; Sat, 31 May 1997 09:34:47 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 09:34:43 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: problem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Patricia G Barnes X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 30 May 1997, Patricia G Barnes wrote: Hi, Patricia, >Hi - I have a Brother HL-665 printer and a Dell OptiPlex GM+5133 computer. >I have an account throiugh the University of Pittsburgh. I can't print out >my email, which is a major problem. Our local computer people couldn't >help me. Can something there give me any suggestions? Look it up in the faq, or -- better -- have your "local computer people" look it up for you. Since you didn't state your OS, it's safe to assume that you're using Win95. If so, get another telnet program. Otherwise, read the faq and change your setting accordingly. Pine Information Center: http://www.washington.edu/pine Cheers, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM4/UlGe8+XvDOeNZAQGgwQf/WJkTqyNZRTfRajA9ec/AYgyGB69tv6Nc 8qA5UM6MEW5W2zVEeXw9ZmY8GvnBoVSifN7zGw0UH54TGoiikkMsfEVnw4D2VaGz lK6GiluYuauW6fLyc2RMsyQ/7De1WCzMLtuLYg6oMVrazWLPTBYEtfmfVNerTIc3 jaoeKTX3/7yOstK8eylCeQ7O/fmulEbTgE0jOCo4pTUfaz6dTHHX5nmqUlSMr4Mu Xg9iheHZ5AuEIXdiD1cpu4o8Bq9kO0cBkVvFXbqR5tbLyqHv10aVKCFuxN6KzSdY tRoD5kdTkgy8T7VZlF3Ze2OjZJLikCfPVrUzu4TzQkcDd7bT8qaUcQ== =MZBH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 May 1997 18:50:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA05044 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 18:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA29392; Sat, 31 May 1997 18:50:07 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA08951; Sat, 31 May 1997 18:44:00 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA76464 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 18:42:26 -0700 Received: from franklin.icsd.k12.ny.us (root@franklin.icsd.k12.ny.us [207.10.97.70]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA08887 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 18:42:24 -0700 Received: from franklin.icsd.k12.ny.us (bill@franklin.icsd.k12.ny.us [207.10.97.70]) by franklin.icsd.k12.ny.us (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA20339; Sat, 31 May 1997 21:36:28 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 21:36:28 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: William Mahler To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: problem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Patricia G Barnes X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Patricia ... Try a telnet program called EWAN. You can find it on the net. It allows you to use the print command from pine and will print to you local printer. On Fri, 30 May 1997, Patricia G Barnes wrote: > Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 15:28:08 -0400 (EDT) > From: Patricia G Barnes > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: problem > > > Hi - I have a Brother HL-665 printer and a Dell OptiPlex GM+5133 computer. > I have an account throiugh the University of Pittsburgh. I can't print out > my email, which is a major problem. Our local computer people couldn't > help me. Can something there give me any suggestions? Pat Barnes at > pgbarnes+@pitt.edu > > > William R. Mahler Ithaca City School District Ithaca, New York 14850 e-mail wmahler@icsd.k12.ny.us Voice (607) 274-6802 Helpline (607) 274-6800 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 May 1997 22:11:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA05703 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 22:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA03838; Sat, 31 May 1997 22:10:55 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA12927; Sat, 31 May 1997 22:09:06 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA62160 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 22:05:41 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA10303 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 22:05:39 -0700 Received: from post-ofc04.srv.cis.pitt.edu (post-ofc04.srv.cis.pitt.edu [136.142.185.11]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA03763 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 22:05:37 -0700 Received: from unixs3.cis.pitt.edu (tdies@unixs3.cis.pitt.edu [136.142.185.54]) by post-ofc04.srv.cis.pitt.edu with SMTP (8.8.5/cispo-2.0.1.7) ID for ; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 01:04:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 01:04:45 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Tamar Diesendruck To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: mysterious message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: tdies@unixs3.cis.pitt.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN hi - my unix system keeps telling me I have 1 unread message even though I've read everything in the Index. Is it possible for a message to get erased before you read it? or for the system to think there's a message when there isn't? If you have any clues or advice, please let me know. Thanks! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 May 1997 23:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA05879 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 23:17:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA04606; Sat, 31 May 1997 23:17:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA14366; Sat, 31 May 1997 23:15:13 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA56440 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 23:12:44 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA21086 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 23:12:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wY3hR-00038UC; Sat, 31 May 97 23:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5mmmkh$sn9$1@spinnaker.rhein.de> Date: 30 May 1997 16:01:53 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Roland Rosenfeld To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: PINE & PGP References: <5mlevq$510@solaria.cc.gatech.edu> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Chapulin Colorado wrote: > Can anyone give me any pointers to information or resources on > using PINE with PGP. I am used to PINE, and like it very much, > but I just installed PGP and want PINE to handle all that > functionality for me. Anyway, any pointers will help. Have a look at http://www.rhein.de/~roland/pgppine/ Tschoeeee Roland -- * Internet: roland@spinnaker.rhein.de * Fido: 2:2450/42 *